I thought they did personally. Looked very well organised. Its clear as day that we have a problem at back though. Playing sweeper keeper is something clearly very knew.

Izzo got in trouble twice  that I saw and in two different ways. The first was after the referee caused a turnover and the defence was caught out. Izzo reacted very quickly and did well to get to the ball and control it. He then had the opportunity to put his foot through the ball and end the danger. Instead he tried to dribble around a player, got swamped and lost the ball. This was a huge decision making error unless you expect a goalkeeper to have the ability to dribble past multiple opponents. The second time was a very poor first touch that meant the opponent could close in and win the ball before he could kick it long which he was attempting to do. A skill error. 
Both could have cost goals and were very bad but hopefully he will learn from these errors.

wats with japan in this. didn't make the cut ? woah.. oh I'm getting it now. they came second in the groups well best,

strange illustration

Hosts Myanmar lose to Australia in football despite defensive effort

Fighting for the chance to advance to the Asian Under 23 football qualifiers, Myanmar lost 0-3 to Australia in the last decisive Group F match in Thuwunna Stadium, Yangon, on July 23.

Myanmar set up its line-up with a 5-4-1 formation against a strong Australia in the hope of securing one point from a drawn match. Five defenders were fielded in the defensive zone. But defensive blunders paved way for the visiting powerhouse team to enjoy goal chances.

Five minutes from the start of the game, Australia scored the first goal from a close-range shot by Kamau. Myanmar conceded the goal because of an untidy blunder by he defenders. Myanmar had to rely on striker Aung Thum, who won the 2014 Asean Football Federation's best young player award.

In the 14th minute of the first half, Aung Thu kicked the ball towards the opponents’ goal net in a strong effort, but the Australian goalie made the save.

The visitors secured the second goal from the corner in the 31st minute. Myanmar’s goalie Phone Thitsar Min tapped out the ball, but it hit the head of the Australian captain in front of the goal post and went into Myanmar’s goal net.

In the second half, Myanmar raised its attacking momentum in order to see an equaliser. Midfielder Maung Maung Lwin and Aung Thu seized on goal chances resulting from the blunders of the Australian goalie. But these couldn’t be converted into goals. Maung Maung Lwin’s kick went wide from the post. Aung Thu’s kick was cleared by an Australian defender in time.

Myanmar secured second place in Group F, but did not make it in the best group’s second place as it stood in eighth position. Therefore, Myanmar missed the chance of advancing to the Asian U-23 qualifier.

The last round of the tournament will be hosted in China, who are included in the qualifying teams, so the best group’s second placed teams became six in total.

http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/sports/10695

 Sometimes I like to provide some perspective.

 In senior coaching, Vidmar did quite well in the ACL reaching the final playing defensive football. As an underage youth coach for Australia, Vidmar struggled.

I know AU won the FFA Cup under  Gombau. So did JVS with City. When I extolled JVS's credentials for winning the FFA Cup, I was howled down on this forum.

 Ange Postecoglou believes  underage coaching is a specialist job. He criticises FFA for giving big jobs in underage coaching  to develop  inexperienced coaches's careers.

In Gombau's case he is a very experienced youth coach. This should be beneficial for the national teams.

no worries

Vidmar did do well with defensive organization but has no track record being sucessful playing proactively. Gumbao had a week team and did very well

I thought JVS always got unfairly criticized he was a good coach that was good at youth development. Of course when city took over it was probably reasonable for city fans to ask for more

I agree with Ange's perspective, the dutch coach we had a while ago added value to his players. I don't think we have had that since until Gumbao. I also sympathise with the FFA feeling tight for funds

I just wish I'd seen more of the game against Myanmar other than the first 30 mins. It is an interesting exercise.

The under 23s still developed technically under the old system. Tactically and structurally as well as their game sense, they  are a product of the new system. They are also more a product of the HAL.

The under 15s and 16s are technically a product of the new SAP/NTC system.

Looking at the two age groups, the younger age group make a lot of mistakes.

@ Decentric

"the younger age group make a lot of mistake" ... that is a basic function of development and not a function of the system being followed though. Younger kids make more mistakes in all walks of life.

I know.

Particularly in football.

It would be far easier to set up teams ay this age to capitalise on opponents' mistakes.

When the under 23s played, they made far, far fewer mistakes. It was much harder for their opponents.

Hi D, Selected Few's page has the full match on his FB page called 'Australian Football Streams' check it out 

I agree with his that the u15/u16s are technically better but lack a bit tactically, i wonder how they would go with Gombau as coach? The Vidmar brothers whom might be good coaches in their own right are just not good coaching this style of football, they one dimensional. 

I was disappointed in the 2nd half performance, i felt we got outplayed and were quite lucky to not concede at least 3 goals. They took the game on a bit more and really looked quite dangerous.

Now I've seen the whole game ( thanks Barca and  Select Few) I wouldn't agree.

The weaknesses for Oz were:

* Nigro was shocking at LB. To mitigate his abysmal performance, he was playing against two slick ball players, the Myanmar number 9 and 11. He was abysmal at showing, delaying, jockeying, tackling and generally using his body to win the ball.

A lot of  attacking Myanmar play  came from this side of the pitch. Maybe MV suppsorters can inform me, but is LB Nigro's favoured position? He was easily the worst player on the pitch for Australia.


*The whole left side of the pitch was  a combination of Sotirio on the left, McGree who I think was Attacking LM, not Mauk. It wasn't that effective in BPO.



* The central midfield was not that good in breaking up attacks in BPO. It was a combo of Caletti, as the  6 or screener, and twin 10s, Mauk and McGree. A s a unit, they didn't make enough intercepts, tackles, or force enough turnovers.

Given Caletti has a huge role playing the number 6, and he is a mediocre  ball winner, he either needs Mauk to defend as a twin number 6, or play the defensive mid or rotating midfield triangle. Mauk won some hard balls, but was punished by a hopeless ref who was Myanmar's best player!



* Outside Aspro,Jackson and Cowburn, there was not enough ball winning by Aussies, except that Mauk was unfairly punished by the ref. If we had a ref from the Scottish Professional League, 90% of the fouls awarded by the ref, would not have been awarded! We were punished for breathing on Myanmar players.


* Blackwood has gone backwards as a goal mouth predator under Arnold. He has slick skills and mainly demonstrated them well out from goal in build up play.




Strengths

* In Ball Possession, Caletti was simply brilliant. He has slick handling speed, a beautiful first touch under  pressure and passes accurately under pressure .  Also, he covered effectively when the FBs overlapped and went forwards.


*Mauk and McGree were also effective on the ball too. McGree also showed a lot of class under pressure on the ball in midfield.  


*The attacking midfield  triangle was very effective in Ball Possession and had optimum shape. 


* The two CBs, Aspro and Jackson were very good off the ball and on it.


* Wingers Kamau and Sotirio were effective. Thought Kamau tracked back well too.


Gombau has the attacking mids tucking so the FBs can overlap. Viddie didn't.



I'd love to see this team play more football.

Another point in response to City Sam, one killer pass from Jackson, which was splitting at least two lines  and the whole Myanmar defence, was intercepted by the referee. It provided  a perfect counter attack ball for Myanmar, when they nearly scored! Instead it should've been a defence splitting pass from us, creating a  clear shot on goal for Sotorio or Blackwood. This was at the 50th minute mark.

Another  guilt edged chance for Myanmar, was when they conceded a clear foul and it wasn't awarded.

Having said this  Myanmar's number 9 and 11, caused us a lot of problems on their right attacking flank.

Thanks a bunch.

I was impressed with Jackson's passing, although he often had quite a bit of time on the ball as Myanmar frequently sat off our CBs.

Based on current club careers, I thought Mauk would've been the best midfielder against Myanmar. At winning the ball he was, but his handling speed and first touch were not as good as Caletti's and McGree's.

I'm not sure where Cowburn is this season? He got quite a lot of game time at Jets last season.

 Popa's influence on Aspro's and Sotirio's improvement at WSW has been good.

I'm not trying  to provide impetus to this issue, because I'm sick of it, but we need more HAL clubs (16 - 20) in the top tier, or HAL 1 and 2 to give more of these players game time. Too many HAL coaches prefer journeymen imports.

I've just done some stats on the game and in the second half you may have a point, City Sam.



*Australia had 18 shots in the game to Myanmar's 13.


* Australia had 14 shots in the penalty box: Myanmar had 4.


*Australia had 4 shots from outside the penalty box: Myanmar had 9.



* In the second half, Australia had 8 shots: Myanmar had 10.


* In the second half, Australia had 6 shots in the box: Myanmar had 2.


*In the second half, Australia had 2 shots outside the box: Myanmar had 8.

One other stat was keeper work (sometimes done by outfield players).

*Australia made 4 saves, and 3 intercepts.

*Myanmar made 12 saves and 2 intercepts. Myanmar also conceded 3 goals.

Whilst Australia had 2 goals just after 30 minutes, and a lot of shots at goal, Myanmar didn't have a shot at goal until the 40th minute, which was one of the few inside the penalty box for them.

From the 45 minute mark until about the 80th minute was Myanmar's best in  the game.

Australia had more shots on goal from 8O mins on and created more chances around goal in that period.

I'm assuming  the game was played in Myanmar, given the huge supportive crowd?

After another look at the game Aspro didn't play as well as I thought. He made some mistimed tackling mistakes well out from goal. Most of the good distribution was Jackson's.

Blackwood was abysmal by his standards.

Caletti won almost no 1v1s, but was outstanding in distribution under pressure.

Sotirio made a lot of crosses and cutbacks. He had a very good game. Kamau also played very well.

Mauk, McGree and Blackwood often had to operate in less space than other players, as Myanmar had a lot of bodies in central defence and midfield.

Cowburn looks to have questionable technique - first touch, handling speed, passing accuracy. The positives are he is a tough tackler and is  reasonable at  jockeying, delaying, showing, and heading.

Izzo usually swept well, apart from 2 shocking decisions.

U19 squad for a week long training camp has been announced by Ufuk Talay - the training camp is being used to prepare for the upcoming AFC U19 Championship Qualifiers source



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Looks a strong squad, good mix of players - don't know enough about the O/S contingent to suggest who is missing, but it's great to see Talay holding these sort of camps in an effort to improve team cohesion ahead of major tournaments.

There has already been a few camps this year and may still be one or two to come. First round of qualifiers are apparently in Shepparton Victoria in November. Should be a good squad in the end.

Let's hope they do better this time around, we always had talent but often received poor coaching and preparation.
Great to see Seb Pasquali from Ajax, keen to see his development

A lot of known players there but good talents missed out especially the likes of Arzani, John Roberts, Najjarine and some of the lads at Sydney FC and WSW that could have been there, Regardless lets hope they do us proud. 

Why are we not participating in the AFF U-18 Youth Tournament? Is it  too easy? Thank god there is no qualification path.

Not sure if this is the final squad. 

Haven't seen this mentioned

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/two-joeys-sent-home-from-tournament-in-thailand-for-alleged-shoplifting-20170803-gxofma.html

Naughty boys - lucky it didn't escalate any further than that

Surely not. What about the OS boys in Spain and Germany and like someone else said somewhere, the players in the A league set ups.