Could have started with pushing 2 mids and the striker (a real one, not Kruse) to one side of the Japs defensive half and kick the fucking thing there and try to win a second ball but mainly to push them back a bit. I counted 6 or 7 players in or around our defensive third at one goal kick. Hard to play through that and dumb as well. Space was over the top.

Apart from the baffling selections (Kruse at striker, and Smith at all), the most frustrating thing is this insistence on playing out no matter what. Its not good football when its always the same and totally one-dimensional. Its almost like they are ashamed to hit a long ball for fear of being called route 1 or something.

:D

Return the keys Ange

Ange gets the last laugh here
Completely outplayed Honduras over the two legs...  tactics spot on..

BULLSHIT. We have made the world cup despite Ange and his poor coaching. The team selected tonight and the way it set up was very poor. 

Hopefully his last game. 

I tend to agree.

He just does not understand the importance of movement. Whenever he gets the chance he defaults back to a midfield with out any players who run and provide options. Mooy is a very good player but when he is surrounded by immobile players he has no options and his effectiveness is greatly limited. 

People have been slagging off the players for so long. We dont have the cattle. Worst team in 20 years blah blah.

Ange doesnt get the best out the players imo. 

Hope he's on his way to Sunny Scotland

-PB

I could have outplayed Honduras just saying.

I think you'll find he does understand the importance  of movement. I've done a coaching clinic under Ange's and Tassie FFA TD, Kurt Reynolds', joint presentation.

Ange analyses games in Ball Possession for the attacking  third, middle third and defensive third of the pitch.

He also analyses games in Ball Possession Opposition for the attacking third, middle third and defensive third of the pitch.

He selects players like Jedinak whose strength is prudent off the ball movement in Ball Possession Opposition, as opposed to what he does with the ball at his feet.

Against Honduras in the second game their intensive  squeezing in BPO, and well timed pressing in BPO, reduced our time and space on the ball. It reduced Mooy's passing options. 

Mark bang on the money. 

Shit selections to give us our worst ever WC performance. For what? So everyone can debate what F****** legacy this guy has.

If he walks away, should the FFA look at a long-term successor or put the entire focus on a World Cup coach?

I think the sole aim should be on World Cup. I’ve always said that the World Cup is enormous and has to always be a priority.

One of my biggest issues with the last World Cup was that it wasn’t treated as a priority.

It was used to give players experience so that they could try and win the Asian Cup on home

soil.

For me that was the wrong approach in a lot of ways because the World Cup is the pinnacle and should be where your focus is on planning your strongest team to get the best result you can on the world stage
.FIFA World Cup 2018: Socceroos, Ange Postecoglou, Mark Schwarzer

Cant be called a failure when you throw matches.

Really? Its a pretty average side for the most part...player for player its hands down the worst team in decades.

It is an excuse for the team to perform badly. 

Being the worst team in 2 decades still doesnt mean that they should underperform. 

No way Ange gets 100% effectiveness out of the players that he has. Perhaps not many could but I think many could get more out of them with better tactics than Ange. 

We dont have a single world class player, our forward options are dire. tommy juric has literally missed 7-8 clear cut chances in a row the last few games .how many coaches get 100% percent out of what they have? Not saying certain aspects of his coaching dont have flaws but for the most part he has got a lot out of them.

6 months ago it was Leckies fault. 

I dont know why people keep saying this, obviously short memories. The holger team of 2012 - 2013 was a good team name wise but a pack of dinosaurs playing in oil leagues:

                  Schwarzer 
Wilkshire, Neill, Ogganovski, Carney/Mckay
                Jedinak, Bresciano
Kruse               Holman           Oar/Brosque
                   Cahilll/ Kennedy

Kewell, Emerton, Archie, Ruka, Holland, Thwaite

Lot of players on their last legs in that side. This side is comfortably better and plays much better football. Remember we collected more points in qualifying this time than last.

And finally the worst team we've ever had was the one that went to the 2014 world cup. Remember all of McGowan, Davidson, Halloran, Vidosic, Bozanic and Taggart got starts in that cup... think about that for a moment!!!

 
              

You missed Ivan and 2014 Ryan. Worst keeper in many many years. 

If anything this reflects more glowingly on ange when you bring up 2012-13, some great names on that list but who other then ange was gonna have the balls to regenerate the squad? Whilst that team was never gonna do any damage at a world cup holger wasnt stupid he knew the experience he had alone in that side would be enough to at least qualify. Btw those old farts still smashed the saudis and were good enough to get a draw in japan.

Ange would kill to even have a 2012 schwarzer between the sticks.

 Most of the current team play well as a collective unit, beyond their constituent parts.

I think I heard yesterday the Socceroos lost 2 qualifying games out of 22 WCQs  played.

From the second stage we have played 14 games. 

6 wins 7 draws and 1 loss. One draw turned into an extratime win.

That is not enough wins. 

In our grop we finished 3rd in every way. 3rd in gf , 3rd in ga. 

Japan vs Thai 6 points 6-0
Saudi vs Thai 6 points 4-0
Australia vs Thai 4 points 4-3

Iran lost no games in 18, Japan lost 2 and were already through when SA beat them.

Heres a stat. The 4 countries that qualified directly didnt lose a round 1 game. Australia did. It doesnt mean anything. 

He gets them to play well, but that doesnt equate to being effective. No enough goals scored, too many let in. Too much wasted possession. 

The only stat that matters is whether or not you qualify.

Ange was in the gun to cop a potential holger sacking after the confeds cup but the smashings many predicted didn't eventuate.

To much travel overseas, young family etc...

Where’s he go?

Japan

I'd still like to know why he quit, I don't want to wait 20 years for a book

Media scrutiny there will be polite and understated. Good choice. 

1. I think he only needs get on a plane once for this job
2. Japan will probably allow his family to enter the country

I think it would be a pretty lucrative deal,,,  for someone to be able to give up the chance of coaching in a world cup. 
What I want to know is, did he already have talks with Yokahama whilst he was still coach of the Socceroos?

Or City Group for that matter ? 

Owned!