The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)

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RECAP OF THE RSF FAN FORUM

Last night at the XXX Alehouse in the shadows of Suncorp Stadium the Roar Supporters Federation hosted their first forum of 2018 with returning Brisbane Roar Managing Director David Pourre the guest of honour.

Before I begin to recap the event, you can watch the video of the night here, and also listed to our exclusive chat with David following the event here.

On returning to the role:

The first question of the night was around his somewhat surprising decision to return to the club after the departure of Mark Kingsman, with Pourre outlining the first contact was made from the clubs ownership. David outlined the reasoning behind his decision to depart in the first place –owners putting the club in jeopardy once again following a restoration project- and he sought assurances there would be no repeat before agreeing to return.

On the A-League’s side struggles.
Unsurprisingly, Pourre was frustrated at the sides current predicament but outlined that the club remains positive of a positive outcome, with a maximum of 36 points still to play for and a belief within the playing group that they could achieve something.

On Head Coach John Aloisi and his future
David once again reiterated his public statement from last month where he publically backed the coach to remain in the job. Pourre also outlined the clubs situation at the time when Aloisi walked into the role, saying that what he’s achieved in the two years prior to this has given him a lot of credit with the owners.

He also went on to say that John is as frustrated and as disappointed as anyone over the results this season and that he’s the first to take responsibility for the clubs struggles this season in his role as the head of the Football Department.

While acknowledging that the fans have every right to be equally frustrated and hold whatever views they like surrounding the manager, the club wouldn’t be making any changes for the foreseeable future. Pourre also said that the playing group was still 100% behind the manager, and that it would be obvious to all observers if that wasn’t the case.

On Craig Moore’s role at the club
Craig is the Football Director of the club, with his roles including engaging in contract negotiation and construction in addition to dealing with travel logistics for all the clubs teams and providing counsel to the coaching staffs of each team. Pourre also outlined that Aloisi has the final say on all contract and transfer decisions, which are all approved by Pourre and the clubs owners provided they fit within the agreed budgets.

On club culture
While reluctant to discussion what happened in his time away from the role, Pourre did outline that there had been a tremendous turnover at the club and not everyone fully understood exactly what the meaning of Brisbane Roar was. To use David’s words, ‘were some of the way there, but not all of the way’. Pourre also said that he didn’t agree with the perception of a boys club culture infiltrating the Roar this season, outlining the success of the clubs W-League, Youth League and academy as things which wouldn’t be the case if such a culture existed.

On Injuries
Pourre was reluctant to talk about the changeover of medical teams in the off-season given it happened prior to his return, however last weeks arrivial of national team back-room staffers Craig Duncan and Les Gellis to oversee the entire high performance unit was welcome. Pourre described the duo as highly respected in the game given their histories and that he was awaiting their report before deciding upon further steps. He also said those findings would remaining behind closed doors for both competitive advantage reasons and also player privacy given the level of detail about injuries and the like.

On players and contracts
Pourre outlined the sheer number of players out of contract -145- and that discussions around who to retain and who to target for recruitment were currently underway amongst the Football Department. He was reticent to mention any names however.

David also discussed the January transfer window plans, outlining that for someone to arrive there would need to be a departure given they have a full roster. There was space left for a January arrival, however those plans were scuppered when Luke DeVere’s injury was revealed to be less serious than planned. Initially the club were looking at Ivan Franjic as an injury replacement, however the earlier than expected return of Devere saw the versatile right sided player take the allocated space for January.

The clubs discipline was also mentioned with Pourre calling it “uncharacteristic” to see so many issues this season. He also however stressed they would stand by the players as opposed to ‘throwing them under the bus’.

On the success of the W-League side this season
“They’re going well”. That was the rather modest assessment of Mel Andreatta’s sides return to the summit of the W-League table this season, before going on to say the appointment of Andreatta as coach of the women’s team was one of the best decisions the club has made due to her management of the team and the ideals she brings to the table.

The question of where the team should play came up once again, with Pourre admitting the crowds at Suncorp Stadium and the new active supporter group –The Roar Corps- added a great atmosphere to the games, however the club has a responsibility to make the team accessible to the entire women’s football community and it may be prudent to play more games at regional venues.

While not wanting to jinx anything, Pourre admitted there was a plan in place for any potential home finals –or Grand Final- and that Suncorp Stadium is not an option due to scheduling issues. Amongst the venues in the mix to host the games are Ballymore, QSAC and Perry Park.

On the Logan training precinct
The clubs much awaited home is still on track to be opened next month with works on the players facilities currently underway, while the playing surface was ready to go. Amongst those facilities will be dedicated lockers, a kit room, medical rooms, player lounges, a kitchen and dedicated rooms for meetings.

While the move is still on track as planned, Pourre outlined it would be imperative for the players to simply just ‘turn up and train’ on the first day, with the transition for the staff set to take place over the next month.

Pourre also shared an exchange between himself and John Aloisi back in 2015 about things the coach wanted for the club. “A home” was Aloisi’ response, with Pourre happy to hear that as he held a similar belief.

David also talked about the Logan City Council’s commitment to the game with the regional council investing $9million into the facility which will be shared by the Roar and Football Brisbane, with Brisbane Roar having a 10 year lease on the main field of the facility giving them sole access.

The question of the W-League side joining the men’s team at the base was suggested, with Pourre outlining the sides relationship with the current home venue in Fig Tree Pocket. While not excluding the possibility, he did mention the possibility of W-League and NYL games being held at the venue.

On the owners
Pourre outlined that to his knowledge the club was not for sale and there had been no legitimate discussions for a sale despite media reports suggesting otherwise in recent months. David also outlined just how much money the Bakrie Group have invested since purchasing a controlling interest back in 2011, with upwards of $19million stumped up by the clubs Indonesian owners to keep the club afloat. Pourre also outlined a loss of just under $4million for the 2017 financial year.

On the standard of refereeing
Pourre gave a real glimpse of the clubs frustrations over the standard of refereeing this year, both in terms of the on field referees and the much discussed VAR.

“My level of satisfaction is significantly diminished by refereeing of games, How many goals have been denied by linesman errors? I can count three. That’s pretty big. Im very disappointed”

Pourre was not interested in hearing any excuses on the matter, saying they needed both coaching and education before going on to outline that they don’t understand the ‘fiscal and emotional’ impact their decisions make on clubs and supporters alike.

When asked if the controversial VAR system would return next year, Pourre succinctly quipped “I hope not”, a response which got the largest round of applause of the night from those in attendance.

Miscellaneous
Just to wrap this up, a few dot points on other things to come out of the forum

– The club is spending upwards of 4million on the A-League squad this season, with only one or two clubs spending significantly more.

– Pourre outlined a plan to take pre-season games to the regions, similarly to the 2015-16 season when games were held on the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Cleveland Showgrounds and at QSAC.

– The annual members photo will happen once again, with a date set aside for one of the two games in February.

– Pourre wanted to examine all options before confirming where the clubs ACL games would be played, with a range of factors including conflicts with the Commonwealth Games mentioned should they reach the Group Stage.

– Umbro will be returning as the clubs kit manufacturer for the next three seasons, with the original deal set to expire at the end of this season.

– On the issue of playing kits, Pourre also outlined that the club will go back to a more traditional orange and black look for next season, while the second and third kits are TBD. There will however be one ‘light’ option and one ‘dark’ option to ensure no clashes with rival clubs.

– Pourre was “very surprised” when made aware of the ticketing strategy for the FFA Cup game, outlining his belief that the game should be to engage the community and not a profit making exercise. He also made it clear the club takes the competition seriously despite exiting in the Round of 32 for three straight years, despite being a pre-season competition in his eyes.

– The club is limited in what they can do in terms of merchandise with FFA controlling the clubs brand and choosing which products to sell and who produces them.


https://theroarreview.wordpress.com/2018/01/11/recap-of-rsf-fan-forum-10-01-2018/


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Waz - 11 Jan 2018 11:32 PM
 While not wanting to jinx anything, Pourre admitted there was a plan in place for any potential home finals –or Grand Final- and that Suncorp Stadium is not an option due to scheduling issues. 

Farken lol. Don't worry mate, I don't think you're jinxing much. 
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Draupnir - 12 Jan 2018 12:45 AM
Waz - 11 Jan 2018 11:32 PM

Farken lol. Don't worry mate, I don't think you're jinxing much. 

oh how I wish that was a legitimate concern...a bit like me worrying where I will take Susan Sarandon if she sudddenly decided to ring me and ask me out.

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MrBrisbane - 11 Jan 2018 7:46 PM

"Asked if he was disappointed with the way he was sent off in that match, McKay said: "Not really."

"That's kind of been a part of me my whole career - I'm an aggressive player, I like to get involved and still, I disagree with a lot of things that happen.

"Things get blown up a lot in Australia and also since some of the procedural changes have come in with the VAR.

Being aggressive is one thing, being a grub is another. 

I'd say kicking out at someone is not blowing things out of proportion, so nice to see the Captain making excuses for being dirty on the field.


Man, that's poor. He has been super angry for the last season or so.
He kicked a player in the head while on the ground.

I sit in a normally restrained(boring) part of the members stand and I tell you what, he was lucky someone didn't jump the fence and hit him after that as he walked off. Shaking his head even after the big screens showed it. People were genuinely furious it was getting feral.
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@Davide82

“He kicked a player in the head while he was on the ground” ... no he didn’t, it’s very clear from the tv replays he did not kick him in the head. The footage is still on line if you want to check it out.

And we’re these feral fans angry about the potential careeer ending two footed”tackle” from the Reds player or is that okay in feral-town?

I don’t defend McKay but let’s not distort reality to make it worse than it was.
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 9:43 AM
@Davide82“He kicked a player in the head while he was on the ground” ... no he didn’t, it’s very clear from the tv replays he did not kick him in the head. The footage is still on line if you want to check it out. And we’re these feral fans angry about the potential careeer ending two footed”tackle” from the Reds player or is that okay in feral-town? I don’t defend McKay but let’s not distort reality to make it worse than it was.

Aha I could have typed that for you
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The bit about him not kicking an opponent in the head you mean??
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Davide82 - 12 Jan 2018 9:47 AM
Waz - 12 Jan 2018 9:43 AM

Aha I could have typed that for you

Anyway, I admit he just kicked him in the ribs after allowing his boot to drop on his head but career ending tackle made me laugh. 

The fact he stayed out there arguing like a pork chop was ridiculous. His anger management has cost him at least 2 send offs against us I can remember in the last few seasons.
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 9:50 AM
The bit about him not kicking an opponent in the head you mean??

Nah, just the deflection and excuses followed by the caveat of you not excusing it.
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Did Mckay kick him in the head? In a yes/no answer the answer is No. that’s all there is too it, you misinterpreted the incident and I pointed that out. No big deal
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 10:09 AM
Did Mckay kick him in the head? In a yes/no answer the answer is No. that’s all there is too it, you misinterpreted the incident and I pointed that out. No big deal

Sure.
I hope he manages to come back from the career ending tackle this week to help anchor (weigh down) the midfield. 
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Out of the forum as well came Bautheac, Caletti and Avraam do all have contracts for next season despite reports suggesting they were (incorrectly) off contract.
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So 16 goals in 16 games, looking back at the stats the least amount goals Brisbane have scored in a season with 10 teams was 32 in 2009/10 the same season Brisbane finished 2nd last and Ange first took over.

So Aloisi is looking like setting a few records.......

First Coach to finish bottom of ladder - Looking likely
Lowest amount of goals scored in a Season (32 goals current record) (16 goals at the moment) - Looking likely
Lowest amount of points in a season (30 points current record) (16 points at the moment with 11 games to go) - Maybe
Lowest amount of wins in a season (8 current record) (3 wins at the moment) - Looking likely.
Worst Goal Difference (-10 current record) ( -9 at the moment) Looking Likely

All these are based on 10 teams.







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@ Mr. B.

You can add to that list JA holds the record for worst defeats, most goals conceded etc. it’s not an attractive CV
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 11:28 PM
@ Mr. B. You can add to that list JA holds the record for worst defeats, most goals conceded etc. it’s not an attractive CV

Indeed, this has to be it for him in the A-League as I can't see anyone else giving him another chance. 



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A good chance for a draw next week.Although Perth are due for a form reversal too.Then CCM with their youth away and injuries..Good times..

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crimsoncrusoe - 12 Jan 2018 11:39 PM
A good chance for a draw next week.Although Perth are due for a form reversal too.Then CCM with their youth away and injuries..Good times..






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How sad is it that we are looking forward to a game against another struggling side because there is "a chance of a draw" ?

The team has one goalscorer Maccarone . If he doesn't score , we don't score.
Goals this season so far
Maccarone 7
Papa          3
Holman     1
FBK           1
Hingert      1
Skapetis    1
Franjic       1
Bautheac   1

2010/11
Barbarouses 12
Solorzano      11
Broich             6
Nicholls           6
Reinaldo         5
Paartalu          4
Meyer             4
Henrique         4
Mckay             3
Franjic             2
Smith               2
Visconte          1
Devere            1
Murdocca        1       
Ok one is a whole season and one is 17 games .......however our current side has only had 8 players score and only two have scored more than once !
You can't win without having lots of players who can score .....no matter how good your main goalscorer is . 

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@ miron

That’s a fair comparison. JA might argue that Holman would have contributed more if he hadn’t been injured but it’s a mute point. Teams that play poorly rarely score many goals, and teams that can’t defend properly concede regularly compounding the problem.

We’ve turned in to a mess; and to hear Aloisi say “we’ll get better” is just unbelievable and not matched by reality - he’s been saying that since the 5-1 cup defeat to victory.
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Latest excuse..A losing mentality.But the ACL will be a welcome distraction....He's dreaming.
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What did everyone think of Leck and Brady? I thought they were both okay but nothing to get excited about
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Things can’t be good when Boogarde is our equal third top scorer after 16 rounds.
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@waz,It's hard to judge young players in an awful side .Both bring energy and tried to do things but lacked finesse as you would expect
Whether you are young or old you need consistent playing time to hone skills and barely anyone in the team has the consistent game time.
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Waz - 13 Jan 2018 10:47 AM
What did everyone think of Leck and Brady? I thought they were both okay but nothing to get excited about

From what I can remember Leck looked ok, tried to attack, made some runs but just lacked the skills to beat the defenders. 
One thing that pissed me off a little was some players were not even passing to the lad when he was clearly open, one time I think it was Hingert, he ignored him and then just gave away trying something stupid.

Brady looked a little more composed going forward, made some good runs and took on defenders but still lacked the final quality.

Like crimson said its hard to judge young players in a side full of old players that are in bad form and lack consistent game play. Just like any player when a side is playing well and gelling their confidence will rise. 



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I’m not a Brady fan, but thought he showed more intent last night than previously. Leck seems to get in some good positions but not sure he had the touch or composure. Neither are anywhere near the standard of Kruse, Zullo or Oar when they started playing in the first team.
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The RSF organised an open training session with the W League team this morning at their training base at the Girls Grammar school in Fig Tree Pocket. We had an excellent turnout of 75 fans in 39C sweltering heat which the girls trained through for over an hour. Great to see nothing but positivity 👍
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I’m just gonna park this article here:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/brisbane/brisbane-coach-john-aloisi-hopes-afc-champions-league-can-revive-roars-season/news-story/21b342f4818385200588dfbf2e3fffab

It’s hard to recall a side going in to the ACL with poor form and picking up once it starts, it normally gets harder. JA may have grounds for optimism - all but Theo and Caletti will return for Thursday’s game - but with a host of players one yellow away from suspension, the ACL likely to create a new injury crisis, and continued ill-discipline always likely to produce a red card I can’t see the ACL being anything other than a final nail in the coffin of the HAL season. That’s if we get through a tough away leg in China.

30 points is our lowest ever so let’s assume a great finish to the season:

5 wins, 5 draws, 1 defeat = 33 points

That’s doesn’t leave much margin for error. Looking at the remaining fixtures:

Glory (H) - win
CCM (A) - loss with a weakened team
City (H) - defeat after a trip to China
Victory (A) - defeat
Jets (H) - draw
Reds (H) - win
SFC - (A) - loss
Nix (A) - draw
CCM (H) - win
WSW (A) - draw
Glory (A) - draw

That’s the current 13 points + 13 = 26 points with 6 wins.
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A bit more resolution on the new Logan facilities here. Apparently the grass is good to go and once the changing rooms are fitted out the players move, most likely February:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1728221880576810&id=1361064053959263¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic¬if_id=1515884350654354&ref=m_notif
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