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aren't they doing it over a couple of days?
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+xaren't they doing it over a couple of days? "The decision to hold three individual tournaments during the men's 2018 pre-season period has been chosen to introduce clubs, their players, their fans and the wider public to the AFLX game,” he said.
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+xCould also be a way to push MV out of Etihad on weekends. Play AFLX Friday and Sunday and AFLW Saturdays or any combo Well if that's the case then they are doing the A-league a favour. Etihad is shithouse unless it's for a derby and even then it's still pretty shit. I remember going down there for the GF back in 2010 and the distance from the field was shite. Not a great fan experience. AAMI on the other hand is perfect.
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+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That's potentially a fair point. But we'd still be sharing within season then which would just create further issues not to mention the distraction of this circus.
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+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business.
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+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. AFLX is going to be a short duration comp, played late in summer. I cannot see full season football comps being kicked for a short term AFLX. Do not see it having any impact at all really. I think its more to provide an intermediate form of the game. For some potential new players, a 2 hour long full contact game is a step to far, and there is little else on offer aside non contact 9s. A smaller shorter game can be a vehicle for attracting people wary of starting with the real thing.
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+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. AFLX is going to be a short duration comp, played late in summer. I cannot see full season football comps being kicked for a short term AFLX. Do not see it having any impact at all really. I think its more to provide an intermediate form of the game. For some potential new players, a 2 hour long full contact game is a step to far, and there is little else on offer aside non contact 9s. A smaller shorter game can be a vehicle for attracting people wary of starting with the real thing. But why the rectangle grounds?
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+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim.It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. The biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business.
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+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim.It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. The biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. 
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+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim.It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. The biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. They could do the option the player said, make shorter quarters and have 34 rounds. But perhaps it would get too hot in some areas. With AFLX they would be able to have 2 hours a night 3 nights a week. Something like 1 in Mel & Adel/Perth every week then have a rotation of Perth/Adel/Canberra/Sydney/Parramatta/GC/ Wollongon/Gosford/Brisbane/Townsville/Tas/Darwin or wherever else. Because the halves are 10 mins the players should be able to run olny 20 mins per night. Also, they are small squads so it wouldnt cost much. They could also make it bigger and have the same team play at 2 different locations over the same round with 2 different squads. It may be attractive to attend because you would be much closer to the action at both ends. For grounds they may demand permanent posts installed on football fields like Gaelic 
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. AFLX is going to be a short duration comp, played late in summer. I cannot see full season football comps being kicked for a short term AFLX. Do not see it having any impact at all really. I think its more to provide an intermediate form of the game. For some potential new players, a 2 hour long full contact game is a step to far, and there is little else on offer aside non contact 9s. A smaller shorter game can be a vehicle for attracting people wary of starting with the real thing. But why the rectangle grounds? I suspect in AFL states, they will use ovals, marked out with rectangular playing areas. In non AFL states (and overseas), they will use rectangle grounds, but the usage will be so light that I doubt much would be required in the way of new infrastructure, but even then, I suspect they will use ovals where available. The impediments to making AFL available or more accessible in non traditional areas is firstly, for a standard comp, you need a lot of players. Secondly, it is a very demanding sport physically, its long, has lots of running, and contact. Thirdly, it needs a very big space. In areas Australian football has traditionally been played in, these spaces have been built into the infrastructure over time. In the USA, a lot of clubs find getting access to usable grounds difficult, they end up playing on open spaces with some cones marking the boundaries with people getting changed in a marquee. An idea similar to this (I am pretty sure the AFL ripped the idea straight from them) was developed in the US. Their version was called Metro footy. It is a participation driver concept, not a stealing grounds from other sports concept. If the AFL wants less football played on pitches, I am quite sure they want this to be because more players have taken up AFL, not because there is a shortage of pitches.
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+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim.It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. The biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. I find your reasoning odd. If the AFL was to succeed in a drive for more facilities, due to AFLX creating a shortage, then the critical component of that success would have been the shortage itself, not some unique AFL mystical power. However, that shortage would apply to all the codes, so any of the codes could use that shortage as leverage against government for more facilities (provided they were growing, and not shrinking). IF (big if), the AFLX creates demand and competition for rectangular grounds, then that demand is an equally potent argument whichever code decides to make it. Your argument presupposes that the other codes will not/cannot/are incapable of? making that argument themselves and would be hostage to the AFL making it on their behalf. I find it implausible that in AFL heavy ares, they would not put AFLX matches on existing AFL facilities local AFL comps control, and equally implausible that AFLX would take off in sufficient force in non AFL areas to be a deciding factor in facility availability If there is 5% growth in junior soccer comps in Sydney next year, and a new AFLX comp, which creates the greater new demand?
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim.It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. The biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. piss weak country amateur hour!
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They've already booked Hindmarsh for the Adelaide games, and they'll play the Melbourne ones at Docklands, with the seats in I assume, given they own the place now.
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+xThey've already booked Hindmarsh for the Adelaide games, and they'll play the Melbourne ones at Docklands, with the seats in I assume, given they own the place now. Yeah, just the mere thought of Hindmarsh being 90% full of AFL bogans pisses me off. I spose the upside will be fta coverage of this stupid game. I wonder if they'll have slippy slides for the kids?
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don't forget the jumping castles
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Jon Geddes, Manly Daily FORMER NRL star Mark Soden is a passionate rugby league man who wants sandpits installed at junior grounds on the northern beaches. That is part of the innovative plan of the former North Sydney Bears stalwart who has embarked on a campaign to encourage youngsters to play the game that he loves. Soden, who has been played, coached, refereed and been the parent of footballers on the peninsula, was prompted to take action after becoming alarmed at the decline in numbers playing the game amid the increasing threat posed by AFL and soccer. His blueprint will be introduced at the Belrose club this year and he hopes the model may spread to other teams on the peninsula and beyond.  Mark Soden in his playing days with the North Sydney Bears.“I want to get sandpits about three times the size of a long jump pit- put all the kids in there and get their technique right,” Soden said. “It is ‘soft skills’ and it is fun and it is like being at the beach. “No one gets hurt and it is all in slow motion. “And I think a bit of physical contact is good for boys, it’s about learning to control your aggression and your body which is going to get stronger and stronger.” When he was coaching the Belrose under 19s a good young player was having trouble with a tackling style so Soden practised what he preached by taking him to the long jump pit where they worked on his technique. This year Soden will take on the role of helping coach the coaches at Belrose so youngsters can be taught the skills properly and safely.  Mark Soden playing against Cronulla in 1998.“My concern is that there is nobody going to be playing at the top if they don’t fix up the bottom,” Soden said. “The catchcry we have got is that we want league to succeed, because it is falling on it’s face. “It makes me terribly disappointed, it is the game I love. It brought me to Sydney and I am still here 31 years later,” he said. “If I did nothing I would be angry with myself and if I do something and it doesn’t work at least I can say tried,” said the workhorse who played 180 NRL games for Norths. Soden has taken his ideas to NRL headquarters where he had a meeting with NSW officials. As part of the plan to rejuvenate the game on the peninsula Belrose is starting a footy fun program at Lionel Watts Oval for six, seven and eight-year-olds from February 12 from 5pm to 6pm. There will also be a similar program for nine to 12-year-olds on February 14.
Why Ex-NRL star wants to put young players in sandpits | News Local
Or you just take kids to the beach. I dont think this will do much except make kids more sandy.
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+x+xThey've already booked Hindmarsh for the Adelaide games, and they'll play the Melbourne ones at Docklands, with the seats in I assume, given they own the place now. Yeah, just the mere thought of Hindmarsh being 90% full of AFL bogans pisses me off. I spose the upside will be fta coverage of this stupid game. I wonder if they'll have slippy slides for the kids? ... and fireworks and dancing girls. I'm looking forward to it failing- can't see many Crows fans venturing into the western suburbs. Football has survived rugby league at Hindmarsh, so we can survive this nonsense. I think interest will drop away after the first game.
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Honestly it is the stupidest sounding thing I have heard but will be tuning into the first afl game I have seen in years (whenever it is on, is a date set yet?) just to see what it is like so they’ve picked my interest.
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The AFL has confirmed ticket prices for the inaugural AFLX competition with tickets to Fremantle’s round robin games tournament at Hindmarsh Stadium in Adelaide going on sale to Freo members and the general public through Ticketek on Monday 22 January. Adult tickets will cost $15 with concessions at $10, while juniors under 12 will get in for free. All tickets will be general admission. http://m.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2018-01-19/aflx-ticketing
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+x+x+xThey've already booked Hindmarsh for the Adelaide games, and they'll play the Melbourne ones at Docklands, with the seats in I assume, given they own the place now. Yeah, just the mere thought of Hindmarsh being 90% full of AFL bogans pisses me off. I spose the upside will be fta coverage of this stupid game. I wonder if they'll have slippy slides for the kids? ... and fireworks and dancing girls. I'm looking forward to it failing- can't see many Crows fans venturing into the western suburbs. Football has survived rugby league at Hindmarsh, so we can survive this nonsense. I think interest will drop away after the first game. Please. Hindmarsh stadium is literally in the first suburb out of town heading west. They used to go much further west to Football Park.
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Both Port and Crows are playing and most likely against each other.
With those prices and teams even on s Thursday I think AFL would be disappointed if it doesn't sell out. I think it will sell out/be full.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. AFLX is going to be a short duration comp, played late in summer. I cannot see full season football comps being kicked for a short term AFLX. Do not see it having any impact at all really. I think its more to provide an intermediate form of the game. For some potential new players, a 2 hour long full contact game is a step to far, and there is little else on offer aside non contact 9s. A smaller shorter game can be a vehicle for attracting people wary of starting with the real thing. But why the rectangle grounds? I suspect in AFL states, they will use ovals, marked out with rectangular playing areas. In non AFL states (and overseas), they will use rectangle grounds, but the usage will be so light that I doubt much would be required in the way of new infrastructure, but even then, I suspect they will use ovals where available. Cant agree with this. The AFL is already using Coopers Stadium in Adelaide. I have no doubt they would have tried for nib in Perth. Docklands I expect to see in its rectangular formation. +xThe biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. Why would they push for more stadiums? Not one of the rectangular stadiums used by the A-league is being used every week over the summer period. There is more than ample availability in these stadiums for professional sport over the summer. They arent blocking anything - not least with the A-league fixture out well and truly before the AFL preseason is.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xYeah but what the AFL do is copy the cricket big bash model. Basically it wont be sold as a sport but as an entertainment bonanza. They will pump money targeting kids and in and make tickets super cheap for the kids. This will fill the stadiums and then their media will go in overdrive to hype how good the crowds are which then gives off the perception that it's a good product. This will then get all the one's sitting on the fence to attend and bam it will become like big bash 2.0. I've seen all of this in the Big Bash and all the naysayers early on, but now look at it. Should the Big Bash be considered a real sport, not really, it's clear by all accounts that the game is created purely with the entertainment dollar in mind rather than actual sporting merit. If it gets more kids to a game they will do anything to attract them through the gates. This AFLX will be the same. The code will have achieved it's goal if they are able to dislodge the a-league teams during their season. Simple as that. but that might actually create momentum to build more and better rectangular stadiums, especially in Perth and Adelaide That would be misreading the intent of the AFL with this whole plan. They know they won't get anywhere overseas with this, even they aren't that myopic. The sole purpose of AFLX is to starve association football in Australia out of our infrastructure, both at grassroots and elite levels, nothing more. Lobbying for more would run counter to this aim. It's no grand conspiracy, it's just business. AFLX is going to be a short duration comp, played late in summer. I cannot see full season football comps being kicked for a short term AFLX. Do not see it having any impact at all really. I think its more to provide an intermediate form of the game. For some potential new players, a 2 hour long full contact game is a step to far, and there is little else on offer aside non contact 9s. A smaller shorter game can be a vehicle for attracting people wary of starting with the real thing. But why the rectangle grounds? I suspect in AFL states, they will use ovals, marked out with rectangular playing areas. In non AFL states (and overseas), they will use rectangle grounds, but the usage will be so light that I doubt much would be required in the way of new infrastructure, but even then, I suspect they will use ovals where available. Cant agree with this. The AFL is already using Coopers Stadium in Adelaide. I have no doubt they would have tried for nib in Perth. Docklands I expect to see in its rectangular formation. +xThe biggest tell of the intentions of the AFL will be if they push for more rectangular stadiums in the (hopefully unlikely) event that AFLX takes off. If they push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, they will be inadvertently helping the other codes (not just football, but both rugby codes too) especially in the battleground states where Aussie Rules is not the main sport. It would help everyone and benefit sport as a whole. In this case the AFL would be doing us a favour. If they DO NOT push for more/improved rectangular stadiums and multi-use infrastructure, then this AFLX truly is just another move to f*ck over and be a nuisance to other sports, particularly the rival football codes. If they are content with coming over to the rectangular stadiums, tearing up the pitch, occupying them on weekends to essentially block A-League games from being played in those venues, and then packing up and leaving when the real AFL starts again, then it is clear this is just an exercise to continue their desired campaign to destroy anything that calls itself football that is not Aussie Rules. Unfortunately, I suspect it is the latter. That is the unfortunate reality of how sport in this country operates. It is cutthroat business. Why would they push for more stadiums? Not one of the rectangular stadiums used by the A-league is being used every week over the summer period. There is more than ample availability in these stadiums for professional sport over the summer. They arent blocking anything - not least with the A-league fixture out well and truly before the AFL preseason is. So if there's so many gaps then it's just a miracle they could only book Hindmarsh for this waste of time "carnival" 2 nights before the Adelaide United game. This is nothing but a blatant attempt to fuck up our pitches.
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AFLX will pack at coopers stadium... with all the advertising and PR the local rag and radio networks will do .... Then watch the state labor party bend over again for AFL....
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+x+x+x+xThey've already booked Hindmarsh for the Adelaide games, and they'll play the Melbourne ones at Docklands, with the seats in I assume, given they own the place now. Yeah, just the mere thought of Hindmarsh being 90% full of AFL bogans pisses me off. I spose the upside will be fta coverage of this stupid game. I wonder if they'll have slippy slides for the kids? ... and fireworks and dancing girls. I'm looking forward to it failing- can't see many Crows fans venturing into the western suburbs. Football has survived rugby league at Hindmarsh, so we can survive this nonsense. I think interest will drop away after the first game. Please. Hindmarsh stadium is literally in the first suburb out of town heading west. They used to go much further west to Football Park. Yes, and they weren't happy with that! And don't forget the average age of Crows supporters is about 67... It might be a bit hard for them these days.
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Fixtures are out... Teams will be divided into two pools of three with each team playing two games and the top teams playing off in a “grand final”.... THE COMPETITION GROUP 1
Hindmarsh Stadium, Thursday, February 15
POOL A: Fremantle, Geelong, Port Adelaide
POOL B: Adelaide, Collingwood, West Coast
6.10pm – Port Adelaide v Geelong
6.38pm – Adelaide v Collingwood
7.06pm – Geelong v Fremantle
7.34pm – West Coast v Adelaide
8.02pm – Fremantle v Port Adelaide
8.30pm – Collingwood v West Coast
9.03pm – Grand Final
** Times Central Daylight Savings Time GROUP 2
Etihad Stadium, Friday, February 16
POOL A: Carlton, Melbourne, North Melbourne
POOL B: Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda
6.40pm – Carlton v Melbourne
7.08pm – Hawthorn v Essendon
7.36pm – North Melbourne v Carlton
8.04pm – Essendon v St Kilda
8.32pm – Melbourne v North Melbourne
9.00pm – St Kilda v Hawthorn
9.33pm – Grand Final
** Times Eastern Daylight Savings Time GROUP 3
Allianz Stadium, Saturday, February 17
POOL A: Brisbane, GWS Giants, Richmond
POOL B: Gold Coast, Sydney, Western Bulldogs
4.10pm – GWS v Richmond
4.38pm – Sydney v Western Bulldogs
5.06pm – Richmond v Brisbane Lions
5.34pm – Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast
6.02pm – Brisbane Lions v GWS
6.30pm – Gold Coast v Sydney
7.03pm – Grand Final
** Times Eastern Daylight Savings Time Even more nothing than I could have imagined.
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They went and did it. They called them "grand finals" The inaugural 2018 AFLX tournament promises to be a great family experience with something for fans of all ages. AFLX promises to be a different experience, with game-day featuring fireworks, music DJs, in-game commentary, roving performers, kids and family zones and giveaways.
AFLX - richmondfc.com.au
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+xThey went and did it. They called them "grand finals" 3 separate "grand finals" for the 3 groups of 6. The winners don't even play off in any way. Absolutely farcical. At least Fox are calling them "Exhibition" matches, rather than pretending it is in any sense serious (is that what the X actually stands for? Lol).
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I am expecting basketball/ice hockey like music after goals and/or GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and screaming players names for in-game commentary over the PA:
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