Ignoring pens

1st goal hit across the keeper not a tap in
2nd goal beat the keeper from a cut back not a tap in
3rd goal a tap. in
4th goal launches a rocket from distance
5th goal tap in
7th goal keeper out of play but hit from a wide angle. Harsh to call a tapin
8th goal beats the keeper from a cross not a tap in
9th goal headed cross not a tap in
10th goal beats the keeper 1v1 not a tap in
12th goal tap in
14th goal good turn and beats the keeper not a tap in
17th goal wins a header brings it to ground a beats the keeper not a tap in
18th goal a tap in
19th goal beats the keeper not a tap in

It felt like 10 were against CCM.

how many were on counter

Maclaren, kruse and to a lesser degree leckie are all counter attacking specialists.

If we played on the counter a front three like that could tear teams apart but maclaren isnt the guy you want if you are pinning an opposition back dominating possession and trying to find an avenue in tight spaces

He's had his shot/s. Wasn't effective for Darmstadt either. He can not create his own shot. 

How many of those shots did he take more than 2 touches.

Behich starts

he is a good shooter and great off the ball

he could potentially play at a high level if he found a team that was tactically suited to him

but he off course participates little in hold up play and isn't great at take ons so he could find himself on the bench for some modest teams

100% engine and poacher. Quickness is his high 'FIFA Rating' . average-to-high speed, then you'd have shot at about 71 or somesh*t

Truth is he's no counter attack specialist either. He ends up poaching em' on the counter too. This where he falls way short overseas.

A-League you'd always have some sloppy shit happennings at the back for him to pounce on n make something of. Rarely this happens in Euro

Euro defenses are a bit more strong and don't let in much. This could end up impacting his confidence also , not having many goal chances/opportunities throughout the duration of a game. Thus, making his game worse. 

he could potentially play at a high level if he found a team that was tactically suited to him

yeah like Hibs? lol I don't see an up side, will either play sufficiently well or be in limbo

I think we need a dedicated thread like Aussies Abroad Socceroo Selection Debates

amen, NT thread on wether Jamie will be our second striker in Russia

I think poacher is harsh. His goals are frequently scored when there are players around and in front of him, as I pointed out before they arent exactly tap ins. He is excellent in his movement and creates a lot of opportunities with his running off the ball. With kruse and maclaren you would have two players making dangerous runs in behind

lets hope maclaren comes good at hibs. SPL midfields are significantly weaker than a league but the strikers and cbs there are better so its still a step up for him

Behich playing Galatasaray on Bein Sports 2 

Behich mistake almost cost them a goal in the 39th minute.

they doin alright, apart from goal down early. should be ok game

Down to 10 after a last man challenge. Gonna be a long 50 minutes. Behich almost just cost the team a goal .In all fairness it wasn't the worlds best ball to him.

Poacher a bit harsh? hmm

@ Perth Glory, he was 100% a goal poacher, scrapping goals off of anything Keogh missed. Often came on late in games , and I argued at this stage that he should be given starts because of just his incredible ability to position himself/ be in the right place to score a goal off of anything missed. 100% poacher here

@ Brisbane he blossomed under a counter attack style implemented by Aloisi towards his strengths of running and quickness and off the ball intellegence. Which was a different 'job', but still he was heavily reliant on whether a ball would rebound or fall into his path. Hence why many say 'tap in' specialist. However, there is no doubt he was developing in some other areas of his game in those 19 so goals. 

Probably left the A-League too early tbh and should have developed in more comfortable environment before he left. Had everything set up for him. 

Hibs are a similar team so hopefuly he can start where he left off.

Doh 2-0 Behich down to Galatasary 

was that a handball 

Nice little touch from Jackson Irvine to assist the Hull goal. 1-0 up

no because juric is exactly the player that maclaren is not. a very old school big centre forward. a target man that holds up the ball. 

maclaren has great positioning, finishing and pace. but he needs to play in a system where he can ghost behind strong and dominant wings that like to cut in. like broich and borello at brisbane - or in firminos case, salah and sane.  

he''s one of the best strikers that australia has produced in a while. but you can't have him as a lone man - and how many times does that actually work anyway? he needs to work in a fluid front 3 with wingers that can cut in shoot and create - not just bomb down the sides and send in crosses like it's england 20 years ago.

Newsbreak: Guy playing for one of the biggest teams in the world is better than someone who hasn’t played for one of the biggest teams in the world.

Poacher is not harsh at all, it doesn't define him to be a bad player at all it just means the current skill set limits him to certain moments in a game but at the same time also makes him dangerous in the box if he gets the right service, however, can he improve his link up play and hold up play? ceraintly if hes at the right envionment.

Langerak starting for Nagoya

GK team for World Cup will by Ryan, Jones and Langerak

No chance. Vukovic is streets ahead of Langerak at the moment.

Ryan, Jones and Vuka are on the plane unless something drastic happens.

Agree - Vuka is playing very well at a higher level than Langerak.

Ya'll can see Jamie Maclaren at 11.30 tonight on Bein sport bang tap ins.

But Firmino doesn't look to get behind the defence he plays in Salah and Mane, he is much more like Juric in the sense he holds the ball up, has his back to goal and starts plenty of attacks from his pressing. He also has a lot more to his game but that is why he is one of the best strikers in the world.

Maclaren while is excellent at being at the right position at the right time isn't someone who is good off the ball. He doesn't create many chances himself and completely relies on those around him to do the work for him because if he doesn't have someone to play off, or constantly putting in dangerous through balls or crosses he is next to useless. It is why he struggles nationally because we can't create fuck all and require more from our striker in creating chances and why he struggled to get game time with Dresden as relegation favourites won't be giving him many good chances and the manager realised that.

Also he isn't the most clinical striker, he isn't a player that if he gets one good chance a game he will score from it which is the trademark of a good poacher. He either needs to improve off the ball and create more chances or become more clinical or he'll be heading back to the Australia.

Halloran started for Nagasaki.

This thread get derailed quite often doesn't it

It certainly goes into how overseas players can fit into the Socceroos, I don't mind it and think it is fair enough but I can understand if others do not want the discussion in this thread.