https://www.smh.com.au/sport/aloisi-suggests-sydney-fc-job-rumours-a-ploy-to-sabotage-roar-20180324-p4z61j.html

That’s funny ..

City done Us a favour

Big favour JonSnow. Although it means nothing if we can’t beat a depleated Nix today, and if this is the side JA wants us to believe it is, beat them by a few goals. Same with Mariners next week.

Strange though it seems, if our front 6 can start every game, we’ll make the finals and be competitive.
Unfortunately our bench is so unbalanced - with about 5 good quality defensive replacements and zero attacking options - that a single injury to one of those 6 will quickly end our season.

Sort of knew this was gonna happen , time to get rid of FBK , drop Hingeart switch Franjic to RB play either Corey or O Toole at LB ,
Leave Holman out there for 90 , Ricky is no where near fit
Not sure what’s wrong with Eric but it might be time to let Gameiro start v CCM.

That was painful to watch.
One team playing for a place in the six and another without a win since i cant remember.
The team without a win making raid after raid ,while the other team plodded ,passing backwards and side to side for the last ten minutes ,without a clue what to do.No urgency whatsoever,except for a wasted random press .
I never thought it was possible to pass the ball slower until today and most of the time players were strolling around looking clueless on the counter when the ball should be moving forward at speed..
Most of the time the ball gets into the front third,the defence is stacked and the ball is turned over and a counter begins.
Roar seriously do not deserve a finals spot.Ifthey happen to beat the odds they are going nowhere.
Holman was hopeless most of the game except for scoring.Something must be up with his fitness if he cant last 70mins strolling around.
Two poor games in a row for BKF.
Beautheac looks energetic,but what does he actually do?
Maccarrone,the pass for the goal and not much else.
Ricky playing AM?Confusing?

Aloisi is denying complacency but against a poor side, no coach, with 5 key players missing that sure looked complacent.

Why can’t Holman last 90 minutes?

His the fuck did FBK last 90 minutes, he was awful?

Eric’s average, Maccarone does what he always does (made one, nearly scored one, and set up what should have been a winner for FBK) but it’s not enough, and Ricky, well Ricky is just fat (but still better than FBK lol)

Not to forget, WP had 3 players making their starting debut.
Interesting that a couple of months ago when we had a bunch of injuries, FBK was probably our most consistent player and gave 110% each week. Perhaps he just likes being top dog?

@ clockwork

Yeah, I think the squads just messed up. On its day it can beat anyone, but equally it can’t best anyone three weeks running and could equally lose to anyone.

FBK was really poor today - why he wasn’t subbed again raises questions over Aloisi. What does he see? Does he develop favourites who can do no wrong?

Gameiro off the bench? It’s like watching bamby on ice, fun but pointless.

When I watch the Roar ,I really feel the age thing is a big issue.
A lot of skillful older players.
Each of them can go on a run at times and then clock off while they get their breath.But how can a team play like that.
If Beautheac goes on a run,where are the players running to accept a pass? Sometimes they are there sometimes they are not.So what do you do? You run,look around and see if someones coming,if not you pass it backwards.
Maccarrone isnt running,all he can do is hold it or pass it with defence around him.
Holman he runs ,he passes backwards if he is knackered and to nobody if he sees an opportunity, ,he shoots from long range ,he scores ,he trotts.Sometimes he is there sometimes he isnt.
BKF ,recently gets the ball sends a bad pass or just loses it.
Kristensen gets the ball looks around and there is noone in position ahead to receive the ball.The backs are back so he waits for a forward to come back or a fb to run forward.Meanwhile the defence have heaps of time to get back.
Kiristensen gets bored ,takes the ball all the way forward looking for someone,passes,the ball eventually is turned over trying to get through a stacked defence and a counterattack starts.
McKay he spends more time defending and covering if Kristensen goes forward.Only thing is he rarely makes a tackle.


Rinse and repeat.

To be honest, if you watched today’s game and took account of the average ages of the squads you have to be far more positive about Wellington’s 2018/19 than Roar’s.
If you swap the keepers, Phoenix win 4-1.

Sad to say ...I am still in the Aloisi out camp...I say sad because I like him and want him to do well...but I just don't think he has what it takes..... Harry come home ...we'll give you a go !

@ miron

I’m pretty much the same - Aloisi lacks the leadership skills and the mental toughness to be a top class coach. I can’t see him being successful with Roar.

I dont think he’ll resign Maccarone but he seems to have fallen in love with FBK so wouldn’t be surprised if he gets another year.

Jeez I hope you a wrong regarding FBK, he is headless and part of the problem is that he , Eric and Holman just seem to want to wander aimlessly from left to right , not sure now whether our wingbacks are required to go forward , I remember once when Hingeart went forward Brown hung back but now they seem to both either hang back or go forward ,.
Tottaly confused tbh :(

FBK was the loudest voice from the playing group when the chips were down regarding this year's implosion. Suspect JA feels he owes FBK for putting the word out there. Would be very disappointed if he signs. As Jonsnow said, he's a headless chook.

Got a horrible feeling we’ll re-sign one if not both of Ben Khalfallah or Maccarone.

If we’re going to move forward, we need to let go of these blokes.

On another note, are we going with Umbro again next season?

@BRFC92

Umbro confirmed for the next three seasons. They were the only ones willing to pay for the privilege apparently.

I’ve enjoyed watching Maccarone this season but there’s no way we can keep him on next year, like you both he and FBK need to be let go.

The problem is that JA doesn't seem to have any of FBK, Holman and Eric playing a given role - they are just all rovers. You compare with the role Broich, one of the most creative players we've seen, played under Ange and even Mulvey. He hugged that touchline for years, and the defense knew exactly where he'd be when they were looking for the release pass, all because of the discipline instilled by the manager.
I'd speculate that under JA, Broich would have been given a roving role, such that teammates never knew where he'd be.

Agree clockwork , dats the point I was trying to make in regards to the wingers and also the wing backs , only takes one player to forget his role and it all turns to sandpaper .

I don’t not thnk the Aloisi’s define roles hence the need for a perfect preseason, perfect training pitch firmness, perfect squad availability blah blah blah

@ Waz

The only ones willing to pay for the privilege. How depressing if true

I’d love for us to go with Macron one day. Really like their gear

Always love coming to this thread and reading all the confusion and Aloisi hate.

Go on the Melbourne Heart forum and find some threads from a few years ago and you could copy and paste the stuff on here and not notice the difference

You can see Maccarone age badly as this season has progressed.  In some ways it is natural, but to me, i think that he arrived with spring in his step thinking he would play for one of the top teams in a Roarcelona style at a level well below what he is used to, dominate possession and get heaps of opportunities. To be honest, if Roar did dominate possession like they used to, the mind boggles at how well he would have done, from what i have seen.
Instead, the team is flat out stringing a handful of passes together most of the time, they are clearly out of form and expecting a 40 year old player who to put it into perspective is probably older than Tim Cahill and Harry Kewell! certainly without checking, he is in the same vintage. I think it has taken away his enthusiasm and his frustration can be seen, as he is starting to miss chances he creates which he wasnt doing early in the season.  

Next year is a worry because of how likely it is that his form will continue to drop away, so i can understand the calls to replace him.  But, without him this year, i think the Roar would win the wooden spoon.  I dont think many realise how poorly Roar has been (even through their most recent promising run).  Good young potential forwards such as Gameiro, Skapetis and Dagostino.  Would be lucky to score more than a couple of goals if played the whole year this year.  Maccarone is on track for double figures, comfortably.  Finding a replacement striker is not easy.  Aloisi has been mostly prety good with his recruitment but i am not convinced he can find someone better tan Maccarone was this year. The only question is whether or not he can continue his form next year.  I do think he is worth a gamble, if he is not the Marquee and not taking up much cap space.  Realistically, he is probably going to have to be a bench player, but there would be no better say to introduce an Aussie Striker, than to have him learning from Maccarone. in fact i am convincing myself now. Maccarone must be resigned! Gameiro and Maccarone should be the strikers next year.  In fact they should start sharing the role more now.  This is much better than risking a poor non marquee overseas striker or going in with a GAmeiro or Dagastino, and finding out they simply are not good enough to take on that role.  I also dont think that it is realistic that we will find an australian to fill the role.  Unless we could get someone like say Giannou, Duke, Mehbratu (a fringe or potential socceroo) i dont think it is worth the risk.

Ben Kalfallah is a different story.  I think he has been reasonable, but he is also aging and while he hasnt been that bad, we need a visa player that improves on him.  Age is more of a problem for the midfield than the strikers.  A classy, energetic and reasonably young visa player would work wonders with this team. 

This is a depressing and true statement. 

@ lolitsbigmic

The depressing bit is this is how we’re bringing through young Australian coaches - there has to be a better way.

(And for what it’s worth, I rate Aloisi a better coach than Joyce at City - it’s not like we’re bringing in good foreign coaches either)

@Benda Parma

"FBK hasnt been that bad" - goodness me, what have you been eating? He's gone up so many blind alleys this year that he wears goggles for fun. He makes mazy runs to nowhere, passes to no-one, and then shrugs his shoulders because no-one is on his page. And therein lies the problem, its his page, and he makes as if he's a team player, but the facts point elsewhere.

What people need to think about is the style of football Roar should play.
When we were at our best we pressed and pressed ,smothered the ball carrier ,forced turnovers and went on the attack.We kept possession,forced teams to expend energy chasing the ball and finished over the top of them.
Now look at the shite we are playing.
BKF,Maccarrone,Holman as a front three are useless at this.Because they have no legs to keep running.
Behind them are another lot of pensioners.
That's why we need a complete overhaul.
Unfortunately. . with JA in charge ,it's clear he doesn't have any playing philosophy.He finds players he thinks are good and works out how to use them in the ultimate pragmatist way.
I wonder when he realised he had a squad that couldn't run and press and defend.Was it after the failed three at the back?

@ crimsoncrusoe

But the games moved on since then. Over committing to the press and possession for the sake of possession and religiously playing out from the back have been countered now. Ange would not win a title today playing the way he did 5+ years ago.

So playing styles evolve and Aloisi just needs to pick one. And if that’s 4-4-1-1 playing on the counter that’s fine, you can still play good attractive football playimg that way. Adelaide won a blistering title playing on the counter.

Aloisi started out with a disasterous 3-at-the-back system, went back to 4-2-3-1, seems to have ended up with 4-4-1-1 (at least away from home) and it’s all a bit muddled. So just:

Pick the style you want to play John.
And the best formations to achieve it.
Then hire the best visa players to deliver it.
And then hire a balanced squad to complement everything.
Then get them all fit before the season starts.
Play everyone on their appropriate positions.
And don’t play favourites, with anyone, ever.
Just Select your team on form alone.

It is only hard when you look like you have no plan.

Sorry Waz ,but Pep says no to counterattacking.
Look at Manchester City.
They outdo Barcelona for passes and possession.
They also have required less tackles than when he was at Barca .Add to that same low goals conceded.Same high goals per game and shots per game.
They havent won anything yet.But who would bet against them?They sure put the not so special charlatan to shame ,with his counter attacking.
:)

Comparing us and MC is like comparing apples and oranges.

Waz summed it up well.

Have a clear style, and recruit based on that style.