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Wondering what peoples opinion’s are on the quality & rankings of women’s leagues are, including US vs Europe? Not something I really know about.
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+xall tongue and cheek libelous. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they if they didn’t at least try to get a handout from FA, just to tide them over.🤫🤞
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all tongue and cheek libelous.
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+x+x+xGO JJ However, Network Ten is currently in the final stages — stoppage time, if you will — of renegotiating broadcast rights with Football Australia. The four-year-extension will run from 2025 to 2028, and includes the 2027 Women’s World Cup, the 2026 Women’s Asian Cup, plus the majority of Matildas games. The Australian reported last week the deal is set to be worth $200 million – double the current four-year, $100 million deal between Network Ten and Football Australia. APL will be looking at those dollars and going WTF?! :D hehe I reckon they'll be playing the tune of help us helps the game tune to JJ - I'd sooner he turn his back BUT it could be a rippa bargaining deal to force openning the game up top but will reduce alot of the resource that needs to get down to you Refs :) and local grounds before them. I doubt FA will be helping the APL financially, after all they are a separate entity and the Championship is not a second division.
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+x+xGO JJ However, Network Ten is currently in the final stages — stoppage time, if you will — of renegotiating broadcast rights with Football Australia. The four-year-extension will run from 2025 to 2028, and includes the 2027 Women’s World Cup, the 2026 Women’s Asian Cup, plus the majority of Matildas games. The Australian reported last week the deal is set to be worth $200 million – double the current four-year, $100 million deal between Network Ten and Football Australia. APL will be looking at those dollars and going WTF?! :D hehe I reckon they'll be playing the tune of help us helps the game tune to JJ - I'd sooner he turn his back BUT it could be a rippa bargaining deal to force openning the game up top but will reduce alot of the resource that needs to get down to you Refs :) and local grounds before them.
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+xGO JJ However, Network Ten is currently in the final stages — stoppage time, if you will — of renegotiating broadcast rights with Football Australia. The four-year-extension will run from 2025 to 2028, and includes the 2027 Women’s World Cup, the 2026 Women’s Asian Cup, plus the majority of Matildas games. The Australian reported last week the deal is set to be worth $200 million – double the current four-year, $100 million deal between Network Ten and Football Australia. APL will be looking at those dollars and going WTF?!
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GO JJ However, Network Ten is currently in the final stages — stoppage time, if you will — of renegotiating broadcast rights with Football Australia. The four-year-extension will run from 2025 to 2028, and includes the 2027 Women’s World Cup, the 2026 Women’s Asian Cup, plus the majority of Matildas games. The Australian reported last week the deal is set to be worth $200 million – double the current four-year, $100 million deal between Network Ten and Football Australia.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. Not in that specific law, no. But the very first line of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct) is this: Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play. The offside activity (leaving the field without permission) would be before play but by itself it does not result in a free kick or penalty kick - it is a state of being. You can be carded for leaving the field without permission during a stoppage, for example. When the corner is taken the ball is then in play and that would be when the officials have to decide if an attacking player is onside or not. The defender and keeper, who left the field during the stoppage, could theoretically be considered to be standing on the goal line by leaving the field earlier - although by its nature the corner kick could be 'the next stoppage' that wipes that.Not worth the thinking from what you and Muz have said anyway - I just had not known that leaving the field of play could carry a time penalty as mentioned in the Laws so I wondered how long that could actually carry into play and if it actually ever got used in open play. I appreciate your time to respond. Yeah, I get what you're saying. But, if they're back on the field of play when the corner is taken, it's a moot point. But, in saying that, everyone is onside at a corner regardless, as you've pointed out anyways (it will be a stoppage in play too). I will leave you with one thought. As the corner is kicked (play has commenced) a defender darts over the goal line to avoid the bodies and get position in front of their opponent. They are considered to be on the goal line for offside purposes until the next stoppage, or until the ball is outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by the defending team. In the usual fall out from the corner, the defending team push out leaving the goal keeper alone. By Law though, there is still a defender on the goal line with the keeper - but in physical terms there is only the keeper. I am betting an attacker standing between the pack and the keeper would be called offside despite that Law. It would be humanly impossible to monitor it from the sideline (inside/outside far side of the box along with noticing any touch from the defending team towards halfway), and ridiculous to require the referee's assistant to remember that the invisible defender is there too. I am happy to go with Muz's overriding principle that the Law is included to stop abuse and cheating and this sort of activity is not intended to be caught up in that. I am somewhat fascinated by the unusual complications in football when you read the fine print for its literal interpretation. Reminds me of the US men's team touching the ball at a corner kick with their foot then running away for another player to pretend to come for the kick who then runs with it. The ref took the whole action at face value rather than the technically legal "I had already cunningly taken the kick, Sir" and told them to just go back and kick the ball properly. As much as I like to explore these things in here, I do not want bush lawyers (or real lawyers) to take over the running of games and decisions. Yes, there is always quite a bit to manage and look at. Scenarios are fun though, so it's good to ask these things. On an irrelevant note, was fun to sit with a mate of mine when we were at uni, because once a month he would get his little quiz he had to do as part of the NRL Referee Academy. My favourite was noting that if the ball when kicked off goes the required 10m in the air, but is kicked into a heavy wind that blows the ball straight back to the kicking team.. it's play on! But on this one, yes generally it's to follow Muz's principle to take out cheating where they can, but there's a line I've highlighted that (I need to track down to find the wording) but, unless I'm very much mistaken, there is written somewhere an allowance for players to essentially temporarily leave the field of play if it's in an act of play (eg, that goal that Gareth Bale scored to win the Copa del Rey for Madrid a few years back where he knocked the ball one way past a defender on the sideline, and ran around the otherside - off the field of play - to get to the ball)
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. Not in that specific law, no. But the very first line of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct) is this: Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play. The offside activity (leaving the field without permission) would be before play but by itself it does not result in a free kick or penalty kick - it is a state of being. You can be carded for leaving the field without permission during a stoppage, for example. When the corner is taken the ball is then in play and that would be when the officials have to decide if an attacking player is onside or not. The defender and keeper, who left the field during the stoppage, could theoretically be considered to be standing on the goal line by leaving the field earlier - although by its nature the corner kick could be 'the next stoppage' that wipes that.Not worth the thinking from what you and Muz have said anyway - I just had not known that leaving the field of play could carry a time penalty as mentioned in the Laws so I wondered how long that could actually carry into play and if it actually ever got used in open play. I appreciate your time to respond. Yeah, I get what you're saying. But, if they're back on the field of play when the corner is taken, it's a moot point. But, in saying that, everyone is onside at a corner regardless, as you've pointed out anyways (it will be a stoppage in play too). I will leave you with one thought. As the corner is kicked (play has commenced) a defender darts over the goal line to avoid the bodies and get position in front of their opponent. They are considered to be on the goal line for offside purposes until the next stoppage, or until the ball is outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by the defending team. In the usual fall out from the corner, the defending team push out leaving the goal keeper alone. By Law though, there is still a defender on the goal line with the keeper - but in physical terms there is only the keeper. I am betting an attacker standing between the pack and the keeper would be called offside despite that Law. It would be humanly impossible to monitor it from the sideline (inside/outside far side of the box along with noticing any touch from the defending team towards halfway), and ridiculous to require the referee's assistant to remember that the invisible defender is there too. I am happy to go with Muz's overriding principle that the Law is included to stop abuse and cheating and this sort of activity is not intended to be caught up in that. I am somewhat fascinated by the unusual complications in football when you read the fine print for its literal interpretation. Reminds me of the US men's team touching the ball at a corner kick with their foot then running away for another player to pretend to come for the kick who then runs with it. The ref took the whole action at face value rather than the technically legal "I had already cunningly taken the kick, Sir" and told them to just go back and kick the ball properly. As much as I like to explore these things in here, I do not want bush lawyers (or real lawyers) to take over the running of games and decisions.
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+x+x+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. Not in that specific law, no. But the very first line of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct) is this: Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play. The offside activity (leaving the field without permission) would be before play but by itself it does not result in a free kick or penalty kick - it is a state of being. You can be carded for leaving the field without permission during a stoppage, for example. When the corner is taken the ball is then in play and that would be when the officials have to decide if an attacking player is onside or not. The defender and keeper, who left the field during the stoppage, could theoretically be considered to be standing on the goal line by leaving the field earlier - although by its nature the corner kick could be 'the next stoppage' that wipes that.Not worth the thinking from what you and Muz have said anyway - I just had not known that leaving the field of play could carry a time penalty as mentioned in the Laws so I wondered how long that could actually carry into play and if it actually ever got used in open play. I appreciate your time to respond. Yeah, I get what you're saying. But, if they're back on the field of play when the corner is taken, it's a moot point. But, in saying that, everyone is onside at a corner regardless, as you've pointed out anyways (it will be a stoppage in play too).
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+x+xRumours out Montemurro will be the new head coach after the Olympics. good or bad thing? Very good
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2-2 at 74, nice build up for the goal, finish by Anna Margaf.
edit: ended 2-2, we missed a huge chance late.
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2-1 down at 60 mins, we've finally scored our first goal for the tournament, was from a set piece.
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u23s playing Poland now, live on Football Australia Youtube page. 1-0 down halftime
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+x+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. Not in that specific law, no. But the very first line of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct) is this: Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play. The offside activity (leaving the field without permission) would be before play but by itself it does not result in a free kick or penalty kick - it is a state of being. You can be carded for leaving the field without permission during a stoppage, for example. When the corner is taken the ball is then in play and that would be when the officials have to decide if an attacking player is onside or not. The defender and keeper, who left the field during the stoppage, could theoretically be considered to be standing on the goal line by leaving the field earlier - although by its nature the corner kick could be 'the next stoppage' that wipes that. Not worth the thinking from what you and Muz have said anyway - I just had not known that leaving the field of play could carry a time penalty as mentioned in the Laws so I wondered how long that could actually carry into play and if it actually ever got used in open play. I appreciate your time to respond.
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+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. Not in that specific law, no. But the very first line of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct) is this: Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play.
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+xRumours out Montemurro will be the new head coach after the Olympics. Are we all prepared for a string of losses and a rebuilding phase that a change of guard and players will include? I am expecting it and happy about that.
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+x+xRumours out Montemurro will be the new head coach after the Olympics. good or bad thing? Good.
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+xRumours out Montemurro will be the new head coach after the Olympics. good or bad thing?
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Rumours out Montemurro will be the new head coach after the Olympics.
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Just a quick note on the indigenous stuff from last night. I'm usually, 'it's all a bit tokenistic now', but last night Yvonne Goolagong presenting Lydia with the blanket thingo was a really nice moment. You could tell it meant a lot to Lydia. Well done whoever organised that.
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+x+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering. LAWS mate, LAWS!!!! Don't hurt my ears. If ya gunna do ref speak ya gotta use the lingo cobber! Anyway, time to put all this theory of your into practice and pick up a whistle. You never know, you might enjoy it.
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+x+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point. Not trying to be difficult (also one of my gifts), but there was nothing in the rules Muz posted about the ball having to be in play. Is that just commonsense that actions relating to offside have to be during play? It just read odd in that rule and had me wondering.
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Morrison > Polkinghorne
Grant > Torpey
Simon > Van Egmond
The rest of the team is about right.
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GK Arnold
DF Carpenter / Hunt / Kennedy / Catley
MF Gorry / Fowler / Cooney-Cross
FW Raso / Heyman / Foord
Reserves
Micah GK
Polkinghorne CB
Torpey FB
Wheeler DM
Yallop CM
VanEgmond AM
Vine W
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+xJust to pose a stupid question (it is a gift I have) - on a corner kick, when the keeper usually stands behind the goal line at some point and defenders cross the goal line to grab a drink from the keeper's bottle, technically there is no offside in the following play until the ball is back outside the penalty box and kicked towards halfway by a defender?
So a 'smart' attacking team would note the moment a defender leaves the field of play in order to ignore offside positioning for the duration of their attack. Defenders might not be aware of that moment so when they push out to create an offside buffer an aware attacker can simply stand miles offside and score easily. Muz - would you simply judge this not to be in the spirit of the laws and ignore the silly side of it? In that instance, sounds like you are explaining actions of the defenders/goalkeeper before the ball is in play, so it is a moot point.
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+x+x+xkudos Muzza. I wonder how I would ref a few in here, I'd yellow RIMB many times for talk/decent asking too many questions but to play to my whistle lol :) To me the moment I saw her coming back on from a offside position it was done. Middy, no re JJ and APL, he got enough on his plate looking after the NT's and future of the rest of the game. Need to keep him focussed not side tracked. I don't understand - why would you give me a yellow card? :P Because you are a Roar supporter. Thats enough of a reason isn't it? :) LOL ! he's a RED in quick time after the yellow, can't help themselves :)
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+x+xkudos Muzza. I wonder how I would ref a few in here, I'd yellow RIMB many times for talk/decent asking too many questions but to play to my whistle lol :) To me the moment I saw her coming back on from a offside position it was done. Middy, no re JJ and APL, he got enough on his plate looking after the NT's and future of the rest of the game. Need to keep him focussed not side tracked. I don't understand - why would you give me a yellow card? :P Because you are a Roar supporter. Thats enough of a reason isn't it? :)
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