Wellington to merge with Sydney consortium


Wellington to merge with Sydney consortium

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Surely there'll be a few late nights over this weekend - the FFA would surely prefer to just cut the Nix and allow them to sell the 100% stake than deal with this abomination, right?
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FFA won't be able to justify turning it down due to the two locations either with Southern Expansion wanting to play at 3 different venues.
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Maybe there are 2 sets of starting 11s. One in NZ and one that is Australian.

Your move FFA
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Its for a W-League side only!!!!!!!!



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bohemia - 11 May 2018 5:33 PM
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On what basis?

Long bow but

GO has indicated only two rounds.

The Southern Bid is assumed,.

So if only two additional and both from Sydney ... some may get upset.

To keep Fox happy 1 Brisbane team and another Melbourne team.

Plus a decent bid from somewhere else

Two rounds is 26 games which I think in the min for AFC rules.


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nomates - 11 May 2018 6:39 PM
Its for a W-League side only!!!!!!!!




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What a farce. Either sell the whole license, repeal it, or let Wellington stay (which looks unlikely). None of this half and half BS. Does everyone in charge of football in this country have some kind of brain tumor that causes them to think illogically and make moronic decisions? Sure as hell feels like it.

A SW Sydney team can be successful, but they should be in this league purely on their own and not as some mutant 50/50 travelling circus club, nor should they have Wellington or the word Phoenix anywhere in their name or crest.

Please be SW Sydney Magpies, playing out of Campbelltown Stadium or that new boutique stadium being built in Fairfield, with black and white colours and a squad full of players from the region with an identity they have built themselves. Nix can stay or go but to attach them as a hybrid is doing a dishonour to both teams and alienating two sets of fans.

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Finally something to justify popcorn during the offseason.
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nomates - 11 May 2018 6:39 PM
Its for a W-League side only!!!!!!!!


Well that would be half and half I guess! :/
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Holding Bidfielder - 11 May 2018 7:03 PM
What a farce. Either sell the whole license, repeal it, or let Wellington stay (which looks unlikely). None of this half and half BS. Does everyone in charge of football in this country have some kind of brain tumor that causes them to think illogically and make moronic decisions? Sure as hell feels like it.

A SW Sydney team can be successful, but they should be in this league purely on their own and not as some mutant 50/50 travelling circus club, nor should they have Wellington or the word Phoenix anywhere in their name or crest.

Please be SW Sydney Magpies, playing out of Campbelltown Stadium or that new boutique stadium being built in Fairfield, with black and white colours and a squad full of players from the region with an identity they have built themselves. Nix can stay or go but to attach them as a hybrid is doing a dishonour to both teams and alienating two sets of fans.

Methinks you're getting a bit too far down the road. 

This is WP sticking a tuppeny bunger in Gallops Undies

And the SW bid getting it's foot in the door


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Methinks you're getting a bit too far down the road. 

This is WP sticking a tuppeny bunger in Gallops Undies

And the SW bid getting it's foot in the door

Yeah its just a shame that this is happening like this. Ideally, if the Nix owners want out they should sell their license, take what they deserve, and an entirely new team fills the vacant license (without retaining the IP or history). The Nix owners get to walk away with compensation, a more willing and beneficial team enters the league, does more for it than Nix ever could, and football in this country is improved as a result because there is a new professional Australian team. Only reason it is happening like this is $$$$. The FFA are greedy bastards who want their fat pie and will throw a tantrum and block this purely out of greed, and the SW bid (and the Nix owners) knows this which is why this situation is occurring.     

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A farce if I ever seen one
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Holding Bidfielder - 11 May 2018 7:03 PM
What a farce. Either sell the whole license, repeal it, or let Wellington stay (which looks unlikely). None of this half and half BS. Does everyone in charge of football in this country have some kind of brain tumor that causes them to think illogically and make moronic decisions? Sure as hell feels like it.

A SW Sydney team can be successful, but they should be in this league purely on their own and not as some mutant 50/50 travelling circus club, nor should they have Wellington or the word Phoenix anywhere in their name or crest.

Please be SW Sydney Magpies, playing out of Campbelltown Stadium or that new boutique stadium being built in Fairfield, with black and white colours and a squad full of players from the region with an identity they have built themselves. Nix can stay or go but to attach them as a hybrid is doing a dishonour to both teams and alienating two sets of fans.

im hoping its the magpies too. especially when the Western Suburbs Magpies got booted from the NRL it'll be good having the magpies back into the sporting arena

Magpies for the A-league surely.

someone should design kits already
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Agree that this is a play to force FFAs hand.
The ffa would prefer to strip their license and on sell it than let the Welnix consortium financially benefit from it.

From an Australian football sense the outcome of a FULL time South West Sydney Magpies team would be fantastic.
A full time tenant for Campbelltown would be great for the region, the only team who is willing to fully engrain itself in the region on a permanent basis.
It would also be the perfect time to capture any fence sitters from the WSW crew. With the Wanderers playing at an oval and Homebush for another season, it would be the ideal time to entice fans at a well sized rectangular stadium.

Not to mention the population growth and potential the area has, which it would be planting the seeds for a long term investment for the code.
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It certainly looks like ,this is the only way of subverting FFA restrictions for Wellnix.If they could just sell the licence to anyone in Australia then it would be done tomorrow..Sell 50% and play games in Australian places and they are no different to any other Australian franchise.
Once the Australian owners are in and start lobbying,FFA are up against SW Sydneysiders wanting their team playing at home in front of big crowds ,not in NZ.If FFA try and block that.How hipocritical and stupid would they look?
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Just ignoring the comical hybrid option proposed, if there was a SWS team next season - what crowds do you think it would pull?

Nix’s five year average is around 7,500 ... you’d think they could blow that away with three “derbies” vs East/West Sydney
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HeyItsRobbie - 11 May 2018 8:22 PM
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im hoping its the magpies too. especially when the Western Suburbs Magpies got booted from the NRL it'll be good having the magpies back into the sporting arena

Magpies for the A-league surely.

someone should design kits already

Whilst I'm more than than aware of the historical importance of the magpies name to the region and loath to make decisions that take other codes into consideration, taking up the magpies name would be a branding headache for a new club in a national competition.


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Waz - 11 May 2018 8:35 PM
Just ignoring the comical hybrid option proposed, if there was a SWS team next season - what crowds do you think it would pull? Nix’s five year average is around 7,500 ... you’d think they could blow that away with three “derbies” vs East/West Sydney

A stand alone club would probably be your usual HAL 7-8k attendee affair not including derbies. It depends on what comes out in the wash. A halfer team wouldn't take in either region.
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 11 May 2018 5:32 PM

Phoenix has also negotiated with Southern Expansion and former National Soccer League champions South Melbourne in the last six months.


Well, we know that is BS - 'Nix on the record just last week dismissing that saying all they had was an email from South Melbourne in the past 2years, received last week, and hadn't responded to it when they were squashing rumours of selling.

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aussie pride - 11 May 2018 8:25 PM
Agree that this is a play to force FFAs hand.The ffa would prefer to strip their license and on sell it than let the Welnix consortium financially benefit from it.From an Australian football sense the outcome of a FULL time South West Sydney Magpies team would be fantastic.A full time tenant for Campbelltown would be great for the region, the only team who is willing to fully engrain itself in the region on a permanent basis.It would also be the perfect time to capture any fence sitters from the WSW crew. With the Wanderers playing at an oval and Homebush for another season, it would be the ideal time to entice fans at a well sized rectangular stadium.Not to mention the population growth and potential the area has, which it would be planting the seeds for a long term investment for the code.

^All of this. And Campbelltown is far enough from SFC and WSW to have their own fans and identity without cannibalising the other fanbases. And with 300,000 people in just the Macarthur area alone (+200k each in Liverpool and Fairfield if they are being counted) there are plenty of fish, lots of which are from migrant backgrounds and/or younger demographics (which are more likely to support football than other groups in Australia), and there is a decent 20k seat rectangular stadium that is practically unused for the entire A-League season. And the area just keeps growing bigger and bigger...new suburbs are popping up every year. A cert for expansion in my opinion....they just need to get it right. Which means community engagement, a permanent homeground, and no connection to existing A-League clubs. 

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melbourne_terrace - 11 May 2018 8:36 PM
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Whilst I'm more than than aware of the historical importance of the magpies name to the region and loath to make decisions that take other codes into consideration, taking up the magpies name would be a branding headache for a new club in a national competition.

i doubt it. the NRL club only used "Western Suburbs Magpies" in their name, not "South West Sydney Magpies". i doubt there would be any issues
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Waz - 11 May 2018 8:35 PM
Just ignoring the comical hybrid option proposed, if there was a SWS team next season - what crowds do you think it would pull? Nix’s five year average is around 7,500 ... you’d think they could blow that away with three “derbies” vs East/West Sydney

20k sellouts for derbies for the first couple of seasons at least....and they would be absolutely buzzing.
I think 8k to 10k would be a fair average, with bigger attendances for games against the Melbourne clubs.
If they really nail the community connection and market themselves well (and hit the ground running with a fresh exciting squad and good football) they could easily hold five digit averages every season. All comes down to how well managed/owned they are for the extra attendance boost.

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This is something I made and sent to the SWSFC Facebook page awhile back. Not magpies logo though


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I would be so happy if 100% of it got sold.  A Campbelltown/Wellington hybrid is hilarious though
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bigpoppa - 11 May 2018 9:01 PM
@heyitsrobbieThis is something I made and sent to the SWSFC Facebook page awhile back. Not magpies logo though

i got plenty of ideas myself, one from adidas, Nike, Puma, and one from BLK

im not skilled enough to design the jerseys myself though.

how about this, A black kit, with a sash with another shade of black and white adidas stripes on the shoulders. Black shorts and black socks, both with white adidas stripes.

for away, White shirt with a sash with another shade of white, with black adidas stripes, white shorts and socks with black adidas stripes

you reckon you could make that one? ;)
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The FFA will stuff this up to. So it will be 50/50
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Bozza1# - 11 May 2018 9:20 PM
The FFA will stuff this up to. So it will be 50/50

i reckon its to soften the blow that the kiwis wont have a professional team any more
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paulbagzFC - 11 May 2018 9:33 PM
South Wellington Hellas Nix

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colours to be black and blue, litterally
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