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I recall 8 or so years ago, he wore a Collingwood jumper in parliament during grand final week.
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Know nothing about Conroys history with the game but he should pass the same test that everyone involved with the FFA should do beforehand.

"Are you a Football person?"

- If Yes then congrats and best of luck.

- If no, then fuck off.

There have been far too many weasels from outside the game's community and culture, especially from other sports, who've fucked things up for too long. 

We didn't just go through 3 years of uprisings against the Lowy dictatorship for some new stooge to repeat the same lines about how we are so "unique and different."

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Whilst not knowing how into Football Conroy is. You would have to think his political connections would be of great assistance 

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So Melb City is likely to lobby hard to get one of its own elected to the Chair.

I can't see anything wrong with that.

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Illustration: Rod Clement.

Stephen Conroy is best known as a Labor headkicker — but could the former senator soon be charged with bringing peace to Football Federation Australia?

Margin Call hears Conroy is being touted as the next chair of soccer’s war-torn governing body.
Conroy’s mission, should he get the FFA job: to end years of fighting between the dysfunctional sport’s Rich Lister-backed clubs and a governing body that has been controlled by the billionaire Lowy family.Sounds like child’s play for a Labor powerbroker who once ruled the badlands of Victoria.

In August, the exasperated FFA chairman Steven Lowy — who took over the job from his father Frank Lowy in 2015 in a managed process that enraged many of the clubs — called time on his tenure running the administration body.“I’m doing this because of the politics in football,” Lowy told The Australian at the time.

Politics and football sounds like a perfect mix for Conroy, the long-time president of Volleyball Victoria and a raging supporter of the A-League’s Melbourne City.

That Melbourne City affiliation is handy.City, led by vice-president Simon Pearce, has been one of key clubs that have agitated against the Lowy-controlled FFA.The clubs want more money to flow from the FFA to A-League club owners, including rich-lister Paul Lederer at Western Sydney and mining identity Tony Sage at Perth.

Today, A-League club owners, various state federations and the players association will gather at a specially convened extraordinary general meeting at the FFA’s Sydney headquarters next to Hyde Park.
The agitators are expected to gain control of the congress, which elects the FFA board.A coterie of Lowy-backed FFA board members are expected to follow the chairman and exit the tumultuous code, including ex-NAB banker Joseph Healy, Pendal Group equities guru Crispin Murray and former CBA institutional boss Kelly Bayer Rosmarin.
Not all current FFA directors are expected to retreat.More popular with the clubs is Chris Nikou, an M&A lawyer with K&L Gates in Melbourne and former Melbourne Victory board member.
Some are backing Nikou as a potential compromise to succeed Lowy as chair — although he wouldn’t be half as fun as Conroy.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/margin-call/headkicker-conroy-may-kick-goals-at-ffa/news-story/871ab233b25700ae57b9071c5e0f9dd5


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Closed HAL failed with 11
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and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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miron mercedes - 2 Oct 2018 7:38 AM
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I am curious ..what could Lowy possibly say to a Federation to make them "err" ?
Does he have dirt on people  ? Does he offer financial bribes ? What possible power can he have over someone who ,ostensibly, actually employs him ?
it makes me wonder how dirty these guys are at that level ...


He is the worst kind of slimy. If he wasn't rich, I'm sure he would have been arrested by now.
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someguyjc - 2 Oct 2018 8:40 AM
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A new chair will be voted on at the AGM in November. There could be a number of nominations or a single uncontested nominations. Won't know until then. 

That would mean a change to the FFA constitution.  Currently the Congress votes in the Directors but the Board votes on who is to be the chair.
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Melbcityguy - 2 Oct 2018 8:03 AM
SO who will be in charge after lowy goes? 

A new chair will be voted on at the AGM in November. There could be a number of nominations or a single uncontested nominations. Won't know until then. 
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SO who will be in charge after lowy goes? 
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Lurker - 2 Oct 2018 7:13 AM
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" FIFA has written to FFA chairman Steven Lowy overnight... confirming it approves of CRWG proposals and that it expects them to be passed at today's EGM after public statement of consensus from FFA members! The jig, it appears, is up"

bohemia - 2 Oct 2018 6:44 AM
Since Friday night’s against-the-odds breakthrough, when all 10 FFA congress members - the entire grassroots representation plus the A-League clubs - reached agreement on the recommendations with minor alterations, it’s believed Lowy has attempted to win back enough support to torpedo the changes.It’s understood at least one member federation is erring, but those in favour remain confident of success, meaning FIFA would not be forced to intervene in more drastic fashion.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/ffa-and-aleague-finally-set-for-ceasefire-after-ugly-civil-war/news-story/5da2cd996ab72c0a65b96c58c32425c1


Will this cnt just fuck off already

I am curious ..what could Lowy possibly say to a Federation to make them "err" ?
Does he have dirt on people  ? Does he offer financial bribes ? What possible power can he have over someone who ,ostensibly, actually employs him ?
it makes me wonder how dirty these guys are at that level ...


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https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/business/margin-call/headkicker-conroy-may-kick-goals-at-ffa/news-story/871ab233b25700ae57b9071c5e0f9dd5?__twitter_impression=true
Headkicker Conroy may kick goals at FFA

CHRISTINE LACY OCTOBER 02, 2018The Australian at the time.Politics and football sounds like a perfect mix for Conroy, the long-time president of Volleyball Victoria and a raging supporter of the A-League’s Melbourne City.That Melbourne City affiliation is handy.City, led by vice-president Simon Pearce, has been one of key clubs that have agitated against the Lowy-controlled FFA.The clubs want more money to flow from the FFA to A-League club owners, including rich-lister Paul Lederer at Western Sydney and mining identity Tony Sage at Perth.
Frank Lowy and Paul Lederer. Picture: Craig Greenhill
Today, A-League club owners, various state federations and the players association will gather at a specially convened extraordinary general meeting at the FFA’s Sydney headquarters next to Hyde Park.The agitators are expected to gain control of the congress, which elects the FFA board.A coterie of Lowy-backed FFA board members are expected to follow the chairman and exit the tumultuous code, including ex-NAB banker Joseph Healy, Pendal Group equities guru Crispin Murray and former CBA institutional boss Kelly Bayer Rosmarin.Not all current FFA directors are expected to retreat.More popular with the clubs is Chris Nikou, an M&A lawyer with K&L Gates in Melbourne and former Melbourne Victory board member.Some are backing Nikou as a potential compromise to succeed Lowy as chair — although he wouldn’t be half as fun as Conroy.Sudden departureThe ABC’s new acting chair Dr Kirstin Ferguson has endured her own awkward corporate departure.Two years ago, Ferguson — who has a PhD in workplace safety — abruptly ended her stint as a director of construction giant CIMIC, which with a market cap of $16.3 billion is by far the biggest outfit she has ever been associated with.Her surprise resignation, effective on November 16, 2016, the day it was announced, came only 2½ years after she had taken up the plum gig at the outfit (which was called Leighton Holdings before a takeover over by Spain’s Grupo ACS in 2014).“Dr Ferguson cited her upcoming commitments as the reason for her decision,” said an unconvincing statement to the ASX authorised by CIMIC’s executive chairman Marcelino Fernandez Verdes.As far as Margin Call could see, the only imminent addition in late 2016 to the Brisbane-based Ferguson’s directorship portfolio was a gig on the board of surfing legend Layne Beachley’s foundation.However worthy, it’s unlikely that charity gig crowded out Ferguson’s CIMIC duties.Interestingly, the day after Ferguson’s CIMIC departure, Fairfax Media revealed individuals at the company and its predecessor were under investigation by the corporate regulator ASIC over their handling of a multi-million-dollar bribery scandal.It was serious stuff.By January 2017, ASIC launched criminal charges against former Leighton executive Peter Gregg. That trial will be heard in Downing Centre court in a fortnight’s time.Makes Ferguson’s Michelle Guthrie-related travails at Aunty look trivial.Late scratchingIn recent weeks, Margin Call heard whispers one-time pornographer Dean Shannon was looking to sell his online gambling business Neds.That seemed a surprise, as the outfit is only a year old.Then Margin Call got its hands on Neds’ inaugural results, which were lodged with the corporate regulator a few days ago.Now we’re not so surprised.The Brisbane-based, Singaporean-backed outfit last year made a total loss of $13.7 million.That’s a lot of red ink for an upstart business with revenue of only $5m.And, with point-of-consumption online gambling taxes to come into effect around the nation on January 1, things are likely to get uglier.The biggest online gambling operators Barni Evans’ Sportsbet and Matthew Tripp’s BetEasy (the rebadged and rebuffed CrownBet) are in the market, gobbling up smaller rivals and their customer databases.Although, to go by Neds just released numbers, it’s hard to imagine either paying too much for its publicised 75,000 customers.Its founder, the 52-year-old, British-born and now Gold Coast-based Shannon is a serial online entrepreneur.Earlier in the year, he had a go raising $60m through an initial coin offering (ICO).That came to an inglorious end in May when, weeks after the ICO spruiking, James Shipton’s regulator ASIC got in touch.Spread the wordTo our hitherto sleepiest regulator, chairman Wayne Byres’ APRA, which has recently been rudely disturbed by Kenneth Hayne.
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After a 12 year APRA stint, Andrew McCutcheon has quietly parted ways with the regulator.The former ABC journo left not long after APRA deputy chairman Helen Rowell’s uncomfortable day at the Hayne Show. We’re told those two events are not related.In the trenches, fighting APRA’s worse press in its 20-year history, is Ben McLean, previously at the Insurance Council of Australia.McLean is working for former Kreab Gavin Anderson partner Paula Hannaford, once of Nicholas Moore’s Macquarie and now APRA’s corporate affairs boss. Where else would you want to be?" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 67); font-family: "Adobe Garamond Pro", Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", "Droid Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "PingFang SC", "Hiragino Sans GB", "Droid Sans Fallback", "Microsoft YaHei", sans-serif, sans-serif; font-size: 22px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Stephen Conroy is best known as a Labor headkicker — but could the former senator soon be charged with bringing peace to Football Federation Australia?Margin Call hears Conroy is being touted as the next chair of soccer’s war-torn governing body.Conroy’s mission, should he get the FFA job: to end years of fighting between the dysfunctional sport’s Rich Lister-backed clubs and a governing body that has been controlled by the billionaire Lowy family.Sounds like child’s play for a Labor powerbroker who once ruled the badlands of Victoria.In August, the exasperated FFA chairman Steven Lowy — who took over the job from his father Frank Lowy in 2015 in a managed process that enraged many of the clubs — called time on his tenure running the administration body.“I’m doing this because of the politics in football,” Lowy told The Australianat the time.Politics and football sounds like a perfect mix for Conroy, the long-time president of Volleyball Victoria and a raging supporter of the A-League’s Melbourne City.That Melbourne City affiliation is handy.City, led by vice-president Simon Pearce, has been one of key clubs that have agitated against the Lowy-controlled FFA.The clubs want more money to flow from the FFA to A-League club owners, including rich-lister Paul Lederer at Western Sydney and mining identity Tony Sage at Perth.
Frank Lowy and Paul Lederer. Picture: Craig Greenhill
Today, A-League club owners, various state federations and the players association will gather at a specially convened extraordinary general meeting at the FFA’s Sydney headquarters next to Hyde Park.The agitators are expected to gain control of the congress, which elects the FFA board.A coterie of Lowy-backed FFA board members are expected to follow the chairman and exit the tumultuous code, including ex-NAB banker Joseph Healy, Pendal Group equities guru Crispin Murray and former CBA institutional boss Kelly Bayer Rosmarin.Not all current FFA directors are expected to retreat.More popular with the clubs is Chris Nikou, an M&A lawyer with K&L Gates in Melbourne and former Melbourne Victory board member.Some are backing Nikou as a potential compromise to succeed Lowy as chair — although he wouldn’t be half as fun as Conroy.

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      49m49 minutes ago             


" FIFA has written to FFA chairman Steven Lowy overnight... confirming it approves of CRWG proposals and that it expects them to be passed at today's EGM after public statement of consensus from FFA members! The jig, it appears, is up"

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Since Friday night’s against-the-odds breakthrough, when all 10 FFA congress members - the entire grassroots representation plus the A-League clubs - reached agreement on the recommendations with minor alterations, it’s believed Lowy has attempted to win back enough support to torpedo the changes.It’s understood at least one member federation is erring, but those in favour remain confident of success, meaning FIFA would not be forced to intervene in more drastic fashion.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/ffa-and-aleague-finally-set-for-ceasefire-after-ugly-civil-war/news-story/5da2cd996ab72c0a65b96c58c32425c1


Will this cnt just fuck off already
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So can someone dumb down the scenarios on what could take place today?
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Waz - 1 Oct 2018 4:37 PM
@ Midfielder You’re not sure of the point I’m making? Let’s agree - it is a positive for football and fly’s in the face of the way media portrays football fans. The point I was trying to make is simply this - the ffa set the policing agenda, they set unnecessary rules and regulations that require police support in stadiums, and most importantly they set the tone which police (and media, public etc) respond too. Ask any football fan and they will tell you there’s a low incident level at football matches. We’ve known this for years but O’Rourke has just worked it out now? So having used a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the ffa have damaged relationships with fan groups and played in to the media stereotype that football fans are hooligans - that’s why you have riot police for the Melbourne derby. It’s a cultural problem at the ffa. Fans to them are an inconvenience sadly.

Well hopefully they will be an "inconvenience" for someone new after tomorrow.

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@ Midfielder

You’re not sure of the point I’m making?

Let’s agree - it is a positive for football and fly’s in the face of the way media portrays football fans.

The point I was trying to make is simply this - the ffa set the policing agenda, they set unnecessary rules and regulations that require police support in stadiums, and most importantly they set the tone which police (and media, public etc) respond too.

Ask any football fan and they will tell you there’s a low incident level at football matches. We’ve known this for years but O’Rourke has just worked it out now?

So having used a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the ffa have damaged relationships with fan groups and played in to the media stereotype that football fans are hooligans - that’s why you have riot police for the Melbourne derby.

It’s a cultural problem at the ffa. Fans to them are an inconvenience sadly.
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Midfielder - 1 Oct 2018 2:25 PM
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My reading of the tea leaves is that it is all over bar the shouting any back room deal done now would have an instant response from FIFA.

I think the four state federations that were going to oppose the vote were shown the level of damage such a vote would cause and they looked for a face saving way out of it so they could vote yes.

yeah i've heard it before. and then things are derailed with texts sent in meetings and chat with the lowy's behind closed doors.




 




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The podcast is worth listening too.

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=282311



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Waz - 1 Oct 2018 3:21 PM
F’ck me sideways. O’Rourke revealed today that there were only 19 arrests at A League matches last season NINETEEN We had that many police on duty at the Den end of Suncorp Stadium, we clearly had spares !!The FFA set us up for this BS https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/aleague-boss-greg-orourke-reveals-just-19-arrests-were-made-at-matches-last-season/news-story/105be8ef96d11f0bb090a325e04a0157

Not sure the point you are making I read the article as a positive for Football and engaging the police to re think what they do about Football crowds.

A-LEAGUE boss Greg O’Rourke has revealed there were just 19 arrests last season across 135 matches, justifying claims that A-League games are being over-policed.

Speaking on the Fox Football Podcast, O’Rourke says he has been engaged in constructive discussions with police ahead of the new season, with plans to change their approach.

“The conversations are positive about what we can do together to make sure that policing and public safety isn’t compromised, but at the same time the game doesn’t have an image it doesn’t deserve,” O’Rourke said.

“They’re going to change their policing model, which will be advantageous to our code.”

O’Rourke also confirmed that the controversial idea to play music during matches will not go ahead, but there are plans to introduce pre-match and halftime entertainment.

Podcast in which GO speaks first.

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=282311


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Waz - 1 Oct 2018 3:21 PM
F’ck me sideways. O’Rourke revealed today that there were only 19 arrests at A League matches last season NINETEEN We had that many police on duty at the Den end of Suncorp Stadium, we clearly had spares !!The FFA set us up for this BS https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/aleague-boss-greg-orourke-reveals-just-19-arrests-were-made-at-matches-last-season/news-story/105be8ef96d11f0bb090a325e04a0157

He talked about policing on the State of the Nation podcast hosted on Around the Bloc/Football National Radio with the ATB guys, Fox Sports represented by Simon Hill and Adam Peacock and O'Rourke for most of it except the expansion discussion. Worth a listen (again) on many issues including A-league governance going forward.

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Waz - 1 Oct 2018 3:21 PM
F’ck me sideways. O’Rourke revealed today that there were only 19 arrests at A League matches last season NINETEEN We had that many police on duty at the Den end of Suncorp Stadium, we clearly had spares !!The FFA set us up for this BS https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/aleague-boss-greg-orourke-reveals-just-19-arrests-were-made-at-matches-last-season/news-story/105be8ef96d11f0bb090a325e04a0157

Not sure if it's the same up in Brisbane, but the reason there is a large police presence (outside the stadium) in Melbourne is because of the active fans marching to the stadium. This comes under the same laws as a protest march. That means by law there has to be a certain number of police for public safety. However inside the ground is a different story. I guess they may argue that there is low incident numbers because of the police presence. I reckon the police would love the football gig. There's rarely ever any trouble at the football so they just need to stand around looking like cops. 
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F’ck me sideways. O’Rourke revealed today that there were only 19 arrests at A League matches last season

NINETEEN

We had that many police on duty at the Den end of Suncorp Stadium, we clearly had spares !!

The FFA set us up for this BS

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/aleague-boss-greg-orourke-reveals-just-19-arrests-were-made-at-matches-last-season/news-story/105be8ef96d11f0bb090a325e04a0157
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Cricket Australia to announce a new CEO on Wednesday.

Surely not our David, the timings just a coincidence right?

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Lurker - 1 Oct 2018 2:32 PM
miron mercedes - 1 Oct 2018 2:06 PM

No.
The ultimate responsibility is to the members of the organisation.

sorry ..yes I meant the members...thanks

I wonder if right now Lowy is resigned to standing down or will he "add more tunnel" as Waz put it . I guess he may be frantically trying to sway someones votes as we speak ..but will it work  ? He is a slippery fish to hold down.

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paulbagzFC - 1 Oct 2018 1:54 PM
Expect fireworks in 22 hours or so.

-PB

Nonsense.

There will be no fireworks, simply a vote and a result of that vote.

Providing all legal requirements are satisfied there is nothing the board can do other than to accept the decision.

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miron mercedes - 1 Oct 2018 2:06 PM
Gyfox - 1 Oct 2018 1:27 PM

so basically the board is answerable ultimately to the Congress ?

No.
The ultimate responsibility is to the members of the organisation.

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paulbagzFC - 1 Oct 2018 1:54 PM
Expect fireworks in 22 hours or so.

-PB

My reading of the tea leaves is that it is all over bar the shouting any back room deal done now would have an instant response from FIFA.

I think the four state federations that were going to oppose the vote were shown the level of damage such a vote would cause and they looked for a face saving way out of it so they could vote yes.
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Gyfox - 1 Oct 2018 1:27 PM
miron mercedes - 1 Oct 2018 10:58 AM

The discussion in the lead in to FIFA's Standard Statutes, IV Organisation, Article 19, Bodies (of the Association) has some points worth noting:-

"The bodies are the most important parts of an Association.  It cannot exist or act without them.  Only the bodies, or persons who are authorised by them, can act with legally binding force for the Association.  Therefore, an Association has to define a legislative body, an executive body, an administrative body and judicial bodies.  The competences of these bodies shall be well-defined and differentiated and not overlapping.  An Association shall ensure the separation of powers and respect the principles of corporate governance (e.g. checks and balances).  Using the FIFA Statutes as a reference, these bodies are referred to below as the Congress, Executive Committee, standing committees, general secretariat, Disciplinary Committee and Appeal Committee."

The Association (FFA) then is a multifaceted organisation of separate bodies with distinct, non-overlapping roles and authorities that includes the Congress which is the supreme and legislative body, the Board which exercises all powers of the organisation not the responsibility of the Congress or given to other bodies in the constitution, the proposed standing committees which advise and assist the Board in fulfilling its duties, the administration which is headed by the CEO who operates under delegated authority from the Board and the independent judicial bodies.





so basically the board is answerable ultimately to the Congress ?

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Expect fireworks in 22 hours or so.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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