Was he meaning how the NSL finished up?

didn't think of that,

also maybe including all 3 dead with the current 10

NSL was 13 teams in its final season.

So he is saying the league has went backwards which is correct from a numbers point of view... we have stagnated in the number of pathways to the top tier. We had 13 clubs last decade, and this decade have been reduced to 9 + 1 nz

So a few questions hopefully someone can answer
If we get a normalisation committee and Lowy contests, what happens whilst he is contesting? Who heads the FFA? Is it one of those innocent until proven guilty sort of things?

Obviously, Lowy has promised to keep the small federations afloat. That where some of the money goes that the A-League clubs are asking for.

So who has benefited from the Lowy regime
1. Business people connected to Lowy's and getting money for being on the FFA Board. Mostly undeserved with Jack Reilly being the exception.
2. Consultants appointed by the Lowy to get th e outcome they want.
3. Small federations and their managements (some being Lowy moles)
4. David Gallop on $1.2 million per year.

by proxy that means that the ffa has their power diluted and their ability to control football in australia. this sounds like something that would cause a last minute road block, the ffa's speciality.  if only we had a goal keeper with the ffa's shot stopping capacity in the NT. 

4 votes for 18%
6 votes for 82%
Sounds very democratic in FFA terms

@ Blew.2

Technically it’s:

4 votes for 18%
5 votes for 82%

With the final vote reserved for the professional game of 9 Australian clubs (600 players max?).

A 10 person congress is simply not wide enough.

Any details on the 4 minors counter proposal? Their excuse was not enough grass roots representation...

Its 90% of the votes for 99.934% of the players and 10% of the votes for 0.066% of the players.

Its 90% of the votes for 10% of the income and 10% of the votes for 65% of the income.  The other 25% of the income comes from sources that have nothing to do with either of the two blocks and rightly is not represented by membership of the FFA.

Both are biased ways to look at the situation and when you consider the role of the congress is to:-

- make decisions on a few major listed issues including the board membership,
- make some less important decisions on the recommendation of the board,
- question the board on progress,
- ratify budgets prepared by the administration and approved by the board,
- ratify operational plans for the game approved by the board,
 and
- vote on members of various committees.

there are very few things where who gets how many votes matters but what matters is that every stakeholder group is represented so the whole game has input and is heard.

i am genuinely surprised and pretty happy to hear the the CRWG has put forward a congress model in the high 20's that represents a lot more interest groups and takes away the block power of the FFA and avoids handing it over to the clubs.  

with less yes men on the congress the FFA would have to be so much more accountable and transparent

Capital Football reject ‘Lowy’s lackey’ tag in congress battle

Member federations at the centre of accusations they will try to derail recommended changes to the governance structure of Australian soccer have warned critics not to jump the gun and deny they are a lackey for Football Federation Australia chairman Steven Lowy.

Speaking to The Australian, Capital Football chairman Mark O’Neill hit out at the critics yesterday following reports Capital Football, Football Federation Northern Territory, Football Federation Tasmania and Northern NSW Football could band together to ensure the changes are sunk at an FFA extra­ordinary general meeting on September 7.

The EGM will vote on recommendations made by a Congress Review Working Group that was empowered by world governing body FIFA to make changes to FFA’s voting congress.

Lowy has denied trying to influence some of the states to go against the recommendations, due for release this month, but it is no secret FFA is concerned it could lose control of the congress under the expected changes.

It will require a 75 per cent vote (there are 10 votes) to push through the changes. If the four dissident states continue their ­alliance, then they will have the numbers to prevent the recommendations going through.

But, O’Neill, speaking on behalf of Tasmania, the Northern Territory and Northern NSW, said no decision had been made.

“People are jumping the gun and should cut out the politics,” O’Neill said. “The four of us … we have issues with the report.

“We see the report and our submission as informing ongoing discussions. Obviously FIFA will make recommendations where the associations committee considers it on August 21, but none of us have made any final decision or rejected anything in this report.

“Yes, we are open to dialogue and have preferences but none of our boards have made a decision regarding the EGM because we have not seen what those propositions are. All we have is the recommendations in the working group. We will await the response of FIFA and then look at it.”

O’Neill has been under the gun personally from the pro-change side and has been accused of being a lackey for Lowy.

It has been suggested he was acting as an FFA insider and texting them with updates and critical information during a number of meetings with stakeholders, FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation in Sydney in August 2017. The meetings were designed to break the impasse over the make-up of FFA’s congress but later failed despite twice reaching agreement for change.

Those agreements, reached by the member federations and the A-League clubs, were overturned after alleged intervention from Lowy.

“That whole situation was unfair,” O’Neill said. “I represent the interests of a member federation and what we believe to be the best interests of football.

“There is no alignment (with FFA and Lowy). (The four member federations) are certainly not a lackey for Steven Lowy or FFA.

“I am not doing his bidding.”

O’Neill provided The Australian with a submission that was presented to the CRWG on behalf of the four states.

The two major points to emerge are concerns over the structure of the A-League and the possibility that the players union, Professional Football Australia, could be given as many as two votes in a new congress.

“The major point for us is the need to clarify the operating model for professional football first. We define professional football not just including the A-League, but a second tier competitions, promotion and relegation and the W-League,” he said. “The clarification of the relationship between the clubs and member federations is fundamental to any reconciliation of the governance of FFA.

“We want to create a co-dependency between the professional game and the grassroots so we don’t have this bottom up funding approach we have got at the moment.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/capital-football-reject-lowys-lackey-tag-in-congress-battle/news-story/cf7d8420929c5f7e140fa4d1be5a5991

Biggest lackey in the business actually

ffs ... “We want to create a co-dependency between the professional game and the grassroots” .... and there you have it: no independent A League because he wants to continue sucking $30-$40m from the professional game.

So the current HAL model is going to be changed.

But it won't be before the 4 objectors get to vote

And they want an even more comprehensive model also covering a nonexistent 2nd Div factoring in P&R before they vote in less than 5 weeks.

They want that, rather than 29 people with a 100 vote spread  trusted to organise and vote on it next year.

DIS GUNNA BE GUD

Perth Glory owner Tony Sage has reminded four dissident state federations of the “serious consequences” facing Australian football should they block sweeping democratic changes recommended by the FIFA-endorsed Congress Review Working Group.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/sage-warns-rogue-states-over-risks-of-blocking-fifa-reform

Need some more people doing this ... Sage ramps up pressure on the four state feds and also the media to interview them.

I have enormous respect for Nick Tanna [the guy who set up PG and showed everyone Football could work] Sage also has his moments when I say I glad its him in charge

so it's getting signed off by FIFA today right?

@ Bundoorah

Correct, signed off tonight by FIFA.

But according to an SBS story last week the FFA have already been informed FIFA have approved them - not sure whether Lowy’s outbutcamw before or after that communication, my guess would be after.

Source please

It was buried within one of the Lowy resignation articles. I think it was TWG which reported it.

Is the Ghana deal slowing the release of CRWG report public sign off?

Here you go:

“It’s understood that CRWG’s recommendations - which would grow the Congress to 29 and endorse an independent A-League - have already been signed off by FIFA, in advance of Monday’s official announcement from Zurich”

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/lowy-lackey-under-the-gun-as-australia-face-up-to-threat-of-fifa-ban

And there was another one somewhere saying the FFA were in receipt of a letter informing them the recommendations had been signed off.

Dave Lewis claiming "It is understood" - Righto

Proof that FIFA's Associations Committee is obviously just for show, and that someone else has a mystery power.

But they'll wait til just after the Associations Committee meets before announcing it.

I must admit, there's something about the way you bullshit that really annoys me

@ Gazprom

lol, go find someone that cares. But hopefully “bullshit” on the Internet is your biggest concern in life.

yeah right. i swear i read it would be announced on the monday.  

gets me nervous any time there is a hold up.  it just makes me think frank and his boy are on the phone fucking it all up for us.

FootballFIFA takes charge of Uruguay FA

Football's world governing body FIFA has taken control of the Uruguayan Football Association (AUF) after the organisation was plunged into chaos following the sudden resignation of president Wilmar Valdez last month

Football's world governing body FIFA has taken control of the Uruguayan Football Association (AUF) after the organisation was plunged into chaos following the sudden resignation of president Wilmar Valdez last month.

A letter from FIFA reported in local media said the body had set up a "regularisation committee" aimed at restoring order to the AUF.

The FIFA committee would be responsible for managing the affairs of the FA through to February 28, 2019 and would revise the organisation's statues and arrange new elections.

Uruguayan football has been in crisis since July 30, when president Valdez, who had favourite to win a new term in a vote the following day, abruptly resigned.

Valdez stepped down after the emergence of mysterious audio recordings just before his re-election bid.

Although the exact content of the recordings is unknown, media said they contained comments about sports administrators, a member of the government, sports journalists and supporters.

One of Valdez's campaign rivals said the recordings were "slightly compromising Wilmar's image."

Valdez, however, has denied the recordings were responsible for his resignation.

"This decision has been motivated solely by family and personal reasons that have nothing to do with the context of the current election," he said.

"I want to stress that I was under no undue pressure, threats or extortion in making this decision."

https://www.pulse.com.gh/sports/football/fifa-takes-charge-of-uruguay-fa-id8753716.html