FFA Congress Review Working Group Thread


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Putting aside the Stajcic sacking, Reid’s behaviour and Reid’s expected return, we give the FFA Board a C+ on its first year of operation. We would have stretched to a B- if it wasn't for the recent alleged machinations around the Chairman and CEO roles reported here.


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someguyjc - 9 Oct 2018 11:28 AM
paulc - 9 Oct 2018 11:13 AM

Which Simon Hill article are you referring to? The title on his article from the 7th is "Simon Hill: The FFA’s power struggle explained - let’s hope its a moment that ends the infighting". The only article with 'you will regret it' is the article here on FTBL, most likely written by an automated bot.

I stand corrected. The article was by "a Staff Writer". Shame on him.

Makes sense, Simon is too professional for that FBTL nonsense.


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paulc - 9 Oct 2018 11:13 AM
The title in Simon Hill article states that Lowe said you 'will regret it'. No where did I read that quote in Lowe's response. This is what Lowe said
While the game of football breathes a sigh of relief at the long overdue resolution of the governance crisis, there is understandable concern as to what happens next.

I like Simon and agree with his article generally but he needs to ensure fake news is kept out.

Which Simon Hill article are you referring to? The title on his article from the 7th is "Simon Hill: The FFA’s power struggle explained - let’s hope its a moment that ends the infighting". The only article with 'you will regret it' is the article here on FTBL, most likely written by an automated bot.
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The title in Simon Hill article states that Lowe said you 'will regret it'. No where did I read that quote in Lowe's response. This is what Lowe said
While the game of football breathes a sigh of relief at the long overdue resolution of the governance crisis, there is understandable concern as to what happens next.

I like Simon and agree with his article generally but he needs to ensure fake news is kept out.


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Burztur - 9 Oct 2018 9:39 AM
someguyjc - 9 Oct 2018 8:38 AM

I'd say the FFV as well.

Absolutely.
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someguyjc - 9 Oct 2018 8:38 AM
It's really easy to point fingers at the gov't and question them as to why the large discrepancy in funding exists given the largest participation rates. However fingers should also be directed to the FFA for the inability or flat out refusal to lobby gov't for funding. People assume the AFL just get given these handouts, and to a certain extent they probably do. However they are also constantly lobbying all levels of gov't for funding and have been for some time. Funding doesn't just happen. There needs to be a dialogue. Jack Reilly confirmed the lack of engagement between the FFA and gov't in an interview earlier this year. If we look at many of the expansion bids, many have been able to source some level of funding or support from local gov't. If non-existent clubs can lobby for support, surely it should be a walk in the park for the FFA. Hopefully the new board will be more proactive in this department. 

I'd say the FFV as well.
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It's really easy to point fingers at the gov't and question them as to why the large discrepancy in funding exists given the largest participation rates. However fingers should also be directed to the FFA for the inability or flat out refusal to lobby gov't for funding. People assume the AFL just get given these handouts, and to a certain extent they probably do. However they are also constantly lobbying all levels of gov't for funding and have been for some time. Funding doesn't just happen. There needs to be a dialogue. Jack Reilly confirmed the lack of engagement between the FFA and gov't in an interview earlier this year. If we look at many of the expansion bids, many have been able to source some level of funding or support from local gov't. If non-existent clubs can lobby for support, surely it should be a walk in the park for the FFA. Hopefully the new board will be more proactive in this department. 
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If we got 285m nationally, that would still me at least 4-5 times the $67 the Victorian government provide.
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I didn't realise there was such a discrepancy in funding.  This is the biggest scandal.  You couldn't make this stuff up
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 8 Oct 2018 2:15 PM
bohemia - 14 Sep 2018 6:52 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do8Ee-NUYAA8ziX.jpg

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffv-lobbying-government-for-election-spending-on-soccer-infrastructure-20181007-p5088s.html

How the fuck does Hockey get so much, Football getting royally screwed. 
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 8 Oct 2018 2:15 PM
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Based on the numbers being thrown around, they contribute a fraction of the cash that Marconi's poker machines do to football. Sport Australia can fuck off.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do8Ee-NUYAA8ziX.jpg

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffv-lobbying-government-for-election-spending-on-soccer-infrastructure-20181007-p5088s.html

If Football could get $1450 for each participant then suddenly the cost of keeping kids in the sport becomes  a lot easier task. Equally if you could reduce the cost for kids to a similar level to some of the other sports then the number of participants would grow as well.   

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Burztur - 8 Oct 2018 8:04 PM
Gyfox - 8 Oct 2018 6:35 PM

Probably 5-6 times the amount if the 222k participants is correct?

My comment was meant to be read that if we got $285m for the whole of Australia it would be great.
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"Lowy reeled off a long line of FFA achievements under the current model, he also omitted to mention that most of them came in the initial phase of the reformed body, under the leadership of his father."

Pretty much this.
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Gyfox - 8 Oct 2018 6:35 PM
bettega - 8 Oct 2018 6:21 PM

And thats in Victoria alone.  It would be huge for us if we got that for the whole country each year.

Probably 5-6 times the amount if the 222k participants is correct?
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ErogenousZone - 8 Oct 2018 2:19 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 8 Oct 2018 2:15 PM

Good for them.  Why shouldn't they lobby for it when the VFL gets all of it's infrastructure paid for.   

Yup. Quite frightening how little funding we get compared to AFL and Hockey.


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bettega - 8 Oct 2018 6:21 PM
$285 million is serious money, imagine getting that from government every year

And thats in Victoria alone.  It would be huge for us if we got that for the whole country each year.
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$285 million is serious money, imagine getting that from government every year
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/simon-hill-the-ffas-power-struggle-explained-lets-hope-its-a-moment-that-ends-the-infighting/news-story/9fc32543870a1cb21f20ab6ef52c2296

This is a good article by Simon Hill about the last 3 years. Well summarised.
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 8 Oct 2018 2:15 PM
bohemia - 14 Sep 2018 6:52 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do8Ee-NUYAA8ziX.jpg

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffv-lobbying-government-for-election-spending-on-soccer-infrastructure-20181007-p5088s.html

Good for them.  Why shouldn't they lobby for it when the VFL gets all of it's infrastructure paid for.   
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bohemia - 14 Sep 2018 6:52 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 14 Sep 2018 3:41 PM

Based on the numbers being thrown around, they contribute a fraction of the cash that Marconi's poker machines do to football. Sport Australia can fuck off.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do8Ee-NUYAA8ziX.jpg

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffv-lobbying-government-for-election-spending-on-soccer-infrastructure-20181007-p5088s.html


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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inala brah - 2 Oct 2018 10:16 PM
mind blown.  something's happened.  

can not wait for the release of finances.  that's going to be a media shit storm.

the committees will come under the microscope when the cost of running them becomes public. 



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paladisious - 2 Oct 2018 7:22 PM
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.. oi
The first stage is denial, after all.

the second stage is fall....off the stage ;)




 




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mind blown.  something's happened.  

can not wait for the release of finances.  that's going to be a media shit storm.

the committees will come under the microscope when the cost of running them becomes public. 




 




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bohemia - 2 Oct 2018 7:53 PM
The bigger story in this is 2 of the FA chairs who signed the statement went on to vote against. 

Politics?  The 2 chairs signed the request for the early meeting otherwise it wouldn't have gone ahead because it needed more than 95% of the members approval to call the meeting at short notice.  Without that approval the later meeting would have gone ahead and most likely the old resolutions would have been voted down.  By signing the request for the early meeting they were free to express their concerns about their views being "ignored" in the CRWG process by voting against the resolution at the EGM but not stop its approval.  In doing this they were putting the "bullies" on notice that they won't be walked over when the A-League issue that is their real concern is dealt with over the next 6 months.  Their real concern is the A-League taking all the revenue.  For this scenario to be plausible the 4 chairs would have had to agree to split their votes 2-2.  Thoughts.
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WSF - 2 Oct 2018 3:55 PM
So will Derider and co be the new bitters on here now?

The original Krew will always be the best.

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The bigger story in this is 2 of the FA chairs who signed the statement went on to vote against. 
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Burztur - 2 Oct 2018 6:39 PM
WowIf the FFA board were demanding authenticity of signatures, that’s desperate...

Even the tax department let you sign electronically now...did they get handwriting experts in  ?

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To be able to call the extra EGM at short notice required in excess of 95% of the members to support the reduction from the standard notice.  If it didn't have that level of support the meeting and any resolutions passed at it would not have been valid.  Best to do the normal thing and ensure there could not be any come back in the future.
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 2 Oct 2018 6:00 PM
The FFA board were continuing to oppose the changes right up until the final vote,
demanding proof that the signatures on a statement issued over the weekend that backed the proposals were real


https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/what-does-the-ffa-revolution-mean-513365/page0

The first stage is denial, after all.
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Burztur - 2 Oct 2018 6:39 PM
WowIf the FFA board were demanding authenticity of signatures, that’s desperate...

Might have asked for DNA tests next.....
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