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+x+x+xHD, no comments from me, I dislike the whole lot of them. There is not one politician that impresses me as they all appear to be in it for themselves. The best Lib is in The Senate, but probably un-electable as PM even if he moved to The House because of his accent - Cormann. Though who knows, perhaps people wouldn't care about a PM who sounds Dutch. The best Lib in The House is Fydenberg. And it's reflected in The Labor Party. The best of Labor's in The Senate - Wong. But maybe she's got the same problem as Corman, you know... how do i be delicate about this... the lesbian thing and maybe even being an Asian PM thing. I'll say I got no problem with either or a even Dutchy in Cormann but the Australian people? The best of Labor in the house is, who else but Albo of course. Now people on either side of politics might have a problem with one or all of the four I just named, but whether you disagree with their politics or not, i don't think too many could dispute that if any of them were PM and/or Opposition Leader at the same time, at least politics would at last be a contest of BELIEF'S, instead of personal politics and ambition. Albo is a shot duck as well IMO..too much baggage Libs can use. They need a near clean skin...possibly Dreyfuss or Clare? Albo's been in Parliament as Deputy PM, as Minister, as front-bencher, for a 100 years. Anything The Libs have got they've already thrown at him and he's still the most popular Labor politician by plenty and not far off the most popular overall, in fact he probably is. All water off a ducks back.
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Marki
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+xZef we are already heading down the track of populism. I have conducted a number of state elections and it concerns me the number of people who vote who are totally unaware of what or who they are voting for. Look at our mate Marki he thinks he knows what he’s talking about All I know is that Trump (as president of usa) is powerful and protected. I'm yet to be proven wrong.
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Zef
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+x+xZef we are already heading down the track of populism. I have conducted a number of state elections and it concerns me the number of people who vote who are totally unaware of what or who they are voting for. Look at our mate Marki he thinks he knows what he’s talking about All I know is that Trump (as president of usa) is powerful and protected. I'm yet to be proven wrong. Saying "I'm yet to be proven wrong" is no argument, if anything it's just giving up trying. For eg: Everything I've been saying, on the same subject, in direct contradiction to you - I'm yet to be proven wrong.
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Zef I agree with the issues you raise re non compulsory voting. What I was arguing is that compulsory voting also has major flaws. A system where people had to vote but for a valid vote to be made at least a basic understanding of the process and Westminster system and what candidates stood for would have to be proven
It’ll never happen I know but one can be ambitious
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On more important issues.
I am really excited about Lachlan Lewis. His calmness with his competitiveness could take him a long way to leading the club back to success.
Plus the fact that Holland Martin and Smith are improving every week.
And finally Dean Pay is doing a terrific job with the cards he has been dealt
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BloodyNora
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That's funnier than Peter Dutton being a Karl Pilkington lookalike.
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On the subject of Anthony Albanese being a possible candidate to lead the Labor Party. I have said it before........ I could not take any politician who sounds like Sid from Ice Age, seriously.
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+xOn more important issues. I am really excited about Lachlan Lewis. His calmness with his competitiveness could take him a long way to leading the club back to success. Plus the fact that Holland Martin and Smith are improving every week. And finally Dean Pay is doing a terrific job with the cards he has been dealt Yeah who cares if the country goes down the gurgler, the Dogs winning is all that matters :)
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Slinky_v1
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+x+xOn more important issues. I am really excited about Lachlan Lewis. His calmness with his competitiveness could take him a long way to leading the club back to success. Plus the fact that Holland Martin and Smith are improving every week. And finally Dean Pay is doing a terrific job with the cards he has been dealt Yeah who cares if the country goes down the gurgler, the Dogs winning is all that matters :) We're not even winning!
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Well ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start.
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They should play music in the house, when the music stops who ever can get to the PM's chair is PM for a day.
Or better still get some 6 year olds, they are good at this game...
(I'm just thinking how many Kids parties Slinky is looking at)
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Zef
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Bwahaahaha!
This is all the funniest f***in' thing. The Neo Cons planned this so carefully, had the bomb lit and ready to place, and like Willy Coyote it's blown up in their face.
They hate Morrison 2nd only to Turnbull, indeed many even more than Turnbull as they see Morrison as a traitor and so reserve that special kind of traitor's hatred towards him. And Fydenburg as his deputy! Bwahahaha! The two architects and biggest supporters of what they hate most, The NEG and Paris agreement, now #1 & #2.
Bwhahahahaha!
Mal actually won this week, sure he's not PM no more but he made sure his two biggest supporters got the gig in front of the Neo Cons. Even this morning, making The Potato run around like an errand boy getting signatures and all the rest when all along he knew he was gonna blow him out of the water. Mal's best work in 10 years in Parliament.
Bwahahahahaha!
I can't wait to watch Skynews after dark tonight, all the wingnuts come out at night like Credlin, Bolt and the fat kid. They will be absolutely apocalyptic! This is not how it was supposed to happen!
Schadenfreude! Schadenfreude! Schadenfreude!
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Zef
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+xZef I agree with the issues you raise re non compulsory voting. What I was arguing is that compulsory voting also has major flaws. A system where people had to vote but for a valid vote to be made at least a basic understanding of the process and Westminster system and what candidates stood for would have to be proven It’ll never happen I know but one can be ambitious You got to remember when you start setting standards of who's allowed to vote or not, maybe you won't meet the standard. And if so will you accept it?
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Is Morrison a Dogs supporter? We can finally get someone to rebuild Belmore Oval Or buy the Racecourse
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Marki
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+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM.
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+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable
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Zef
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+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead.
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+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own.
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Shorten has already lost it simply by the fact of being Shorten. If the ALP want to have any chance then they should start their own leadership musical chairs.
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Zef
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+x+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own. It'd take a Birthday cake moment or a Mark Latham handshake moment. Either are possible but that's what it will take. I reckon The Libs have two chances, probably need them combined - The above and the electorate deciding it don't want PM number 8 in 10 years just for embarrassment's sake. I don't know what The Libs can do to help themselves, especially with this war which is far from over. The Cons dropped the bomb and it fell on them, they're furious and won't just give it all up now.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own. It'd take a Birthday cake moment or a Mark Latham handshake moment. Either are possible but that's what it will take. I reckon The Libs have two chances, probably need them combined - The above and the electorate deciding it don't want PM number 8 in 10 years just for embarrassment's sake. I don't know what The Libs can do to help themselves, especially with this war which is far from over. The Cons dropped the bomb and it fell on them, they're furious and won't just give it all up now. I know , I have not been able to take the smile off my face ever since ScoMo sneaked in . Dutton and Abbott and Peta Credlin on Sky all gutted lol
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own. It'd take a Birthday cake moment or a Mark Latham handshake moment. Either are possible but that's what it will take. I reckon The Libs have two chances, probably need them combined - The above and the electorate deciding it don't want PM number 8 in 10 years just for embarrassment's sake. I don't know what The Libs can do to help themselves, especially with this war which is far from over. The Cons dropped the bomb and it fell on them, they're furious and won't just give it all up now. Zef, do you think the general sentiment amongst the public is that the government has done a good job in their tenure or bad one? Ate their future election policies that bad that the Australian public has had enough and wants to oust them? I would have thought the only thing in the minds of the voting public would be whether they thought Labor could do a better job or not. In my opinion the government has done a good job and I judge them on that. I have no confidence that the opposition could do better. I dont believe it's a landslide swing as you suggest. The polls are a crap indicator. Bi-elections are a better guide but I still think on a national level it's even pegging.
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If I was penrith board, I'd sack Phil Gould the day after the Penrith lose their first finals game...
What an idiot.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own. It'd take a Birthday cake moment or a Mark Latham handshake moment. Either are possible but that's what it will take. I reckon The Libs have two chances, probably need them combined - The above and the electorate deciding it don't want PM number 8 in 10 years just for embarrassment's sake. I don't know what The Libs can do to help themselves, especially with this war which is far from over. The Cons dropped the bomb and it fell on them, they're furious and won't just give it all up now. I know , I have not been able to take the smile off my face ever since ScoMo sneaked in . Dutton and Abbott and Peta Credlin on Sky all gutted lol I'm gutted that Lawrence Mooney who had the best Turnbull voice impersonation will lose his job now.....
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Zef
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWell ScoMo is better looking than Dutton so he has a chance against Shorten. Actually Shorten won't be there for the next election. The Labor leadership party is about to start. Yes! Morrison. Someone that actually LOOKS like a PM. Morrison hates Hadley so that is a start....shorn of the requirement to be somewhat sedate he could be the best since Keating in winning the unwinnable Look, I'd never write of The Libs in a two horse race, but they're at looooooooooong odds, maybe the longest they've ever been. But yes, they can win it. However if they do it won't because Morrison done a Keating and won the unwinnable, it'll be because Shorten did a Hewson and lost the unloseable. It's Shorten's to lose, and he could do that. But I doubt even Hewson could lose it from here. And The Lib Civil War is far from over either, and it won't be until either the Mods or Cons are dead. So who is going to ask Shorten about the cost of the birthday cake...a classic moment of wishing the earth would open up if ever there was one. I truly believe Shorten could lose it on his own. It'd take a Birthday cake moment or a Mark Latham handshake moment. Either are possible but that's what it will take. I reckon The Libs have two chances, probably need them combined - The above and the electorate deciding it don't want PM number 8 in 10 years just for embarrassment's sake. I don't know what The Libs can do to help themselves, especially with this war which is far from over. The Cons dropped the bomb and it fell on them, they're furious and won't just give it all up now. Zef, do you think the general sentiment amongst the public is that the government has done a good job in their tenure or bad one? Ate their future election policies that bad that the Australian public has had enough and wants to oust them? I would have thought the only thing in the minds of the voting public would be whether they thought Labor could do a better job or not. In my opinion the government has done a good job and I judge them on that. I have no confidence that the opposition could do better. I dont believe it's a landslide swing as you suggest. The polls are a crap indicator. Bi-elections are a better guide but I still think on a national level it's even pegging. Marki the mistake you make is asking me or anyone else whether the gov done a good job or not. The reality is they've lost 30 something Newspolls in a row, just about every one since the last election (and they do count). They just got rid of the bloke who was the preferred leader of the party by double his closest and almost double the opp leader for a bloke who was... third? at best. They can't present their own policy's (The NEG for eg) to Parliament because they can't get the numbers to pass the legislation in their own party and they got the majority. The Cons, do you think they're done with their tantrums? This whole thing was brought to a head over The NEG and now the two architects of the thing are #1 & #2. The instability in the party has not ended, if anything new enemies, new grievances were born today. This is what they're gonna be taking to an election. Do you think any of you're regular election determining swinging voter type is hearing anything else when this is all they're talking about, for four years now and counting? I'm not suggesting landslides, I'm suggesting their party is completely f***ed up with no end in sight, if anything it's getting dimmer. If you can plot a way to victory through all that, and you want them there, then you better tell them pretty quick.
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Zef
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and as for my opinion seeing as you asked me.
No they've been absolutely appalling.
How many of their own policy's have the back-flipped on not because of The Senate but because of what happens int heir own party?
Paris, about three times, The GST that was and wasn't, Tax cuts, Bank RC, NBN, Gonsky. Now remember on each and every one of them, and there's more, drastic policy changes happened right in front of our eyes because it happened in their party room.
Last month or so The NEG FFS, this week they could not present their own policy to parliament because they didn't have the numbers in a parliament where they have the outright majority. How the f*** does that work?
Until the war is over withing the Lib party, they're not fit to govern - because they CAN NOT (literally) govern.
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Anyway, in good news.
The Lemons have won the spoon
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Nice dinner enjoying another glass of a great red.
The Eel getting flogged and getting the spoon.
Very enjoyable Friday night 😊
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Don't know if anyone saw the Tigers Manly game...very valiant attempt at a penalty by DCE which reminded of a magic Reserve Grade moment...forget who we were playing but behind by a point and just out from our goal line when the final whistle went. Up went a bomb which landed just inside the Dogs half. Someone had made a late tackle on the kicker so penalty. Up steps Steve Hage lines it up and never looked like missing. 50 odd metres and his only goal kick of the game. Bad luck DCE!
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+xDon't know if anyone saw the Tigers Manly game...very valiant attempt at a penalty by DCE which reminded of a magic Reserve Grade moment...forget who we were playing but behind by a point and just out from our goal line when the final whistle went. Up went a bomb which landed just inside the Dogs half. Someone had made a late tackle on the kicker so penalty. Up steps Steve Hage lines it up and never looked like missing. 50 odd metres and his only goal kick of the game. Bad luck DCE! Yes worth a try, but I never thought DCE would kick it.
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