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If you didn't know any better you would have thought that Tristan Hammond was Daniel Arzani for the short period he was on..  depending on the stream quality of course... They  have a very similar body type and play style. even more impressive is that he's nearly exactly 4 years younger than Arzani.


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Ds98 - 1 Oct 2018 11:11 PM
If you didn't know any better you would have thought that Tristan Hammond was Daniel Arzani for the short period he was on..  depending on the stream quality of course... They  have a very similar body type and play style. even more impressive is that he's nearly exactly 4 years younger than Arzani.

I've just roughly worked out that give or take 1 or 2, that 8 of these guys were born in 2003 including Hammond. My question here is why not just fill the squad with 02 born kids if they're good enough, or is it simply a skill level thing discounting age altogether?

You really must of had a good stream 
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Ds98,
Check out this page for d.o.b. It's the full list. The Aussie wiki page is not filled in.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFC_U-16_Championship_squads
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Ds98 - 1 Oct 2018 11:04 PM
Decentric - 1 Oct 2018 10:57 PM

heres the full-match

https://www.facebook.com/clintonmargagultom/videos/144906266461683/

Thanks.
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South Korea vs India HT 0-0. Can India do the unthinkable and knockout the favourites?
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chondro - 1 Oct 2018 11:40 PM
Ds98,Check out this page for d.o.b. It's the full list. The Aussie wiki page is not filled in.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFC_U-16_Championship_squads

oh lol. Cheers Chondro. 
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What’s the RB like? Any good?
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Our defense is the weakest link. The back 4...
The keeper, DMs, a couple of wingers and the striker are pretty good.
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Great comeback.

Goals here.  https://www.socceroos.com.au/video/full-time-highlights-indonesia-2-3-australia-afc-under-16-championship-quarter-final


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so when is the joeys next game? 
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Melbcityguy - 2 Oct 2018 7:58 AM
so when is the joeys next game? 

Thursday night at 6.30 aest Vs Japan. 
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Hopefully a lot of these boys kick on and begin to get opportunities at a senior level. Botic looks like he's going to be quality.


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Bowden - 2 Oct 2018 1:33 AM
What’s the RB like? Any good?

No. The guy from Heartle$$ should have been sent off for a studs up tackle above the ankle a la Rhyan Grant. 
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Bowden - 2 Oct 2018 1:33 AM
What’s the RB like? Any good?

still up in the air, that one. Kucharski is the obvious choice, but haven't seen enough of him to make an overall decision on him, (maybe Chondro can help out there), but he seems tactically more aware than Lambiris who played there last night, Lambiris is more of an attacker I think.

hence Paul01's reference to the studs up tackle
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How many of these youth are likely to get A-league minutes this season? I know some aren't attached the A-league clubs yet. Birkan Kirdar definitely will, he is very highly rated at Victory. He was Victory's youngest ever debutante (in the ACL last year).
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Bocca - 2 Oct 2018 12:14 PM
How many of these youth are likely to get A-league minutes this season? I know some aren't attached the A-league clubs yet. Birkan Kirdar definitely will, he is very highly rated at Victory. He was Victory's youngest ever debutante (in the ACL last year).

They are like 14-15 years old.  I expect not one of them to get a run in a fully professional game.

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Paul01 - 2 Oct 2018 11:42 AM
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No. The guy from Heartle$$ should have been sent off for a studs up tackle above the ankle a la Rhyan Grant. 

The guy who played last night looked lightning quick, I'm surprised his name isn't Gonzalas.
The whole game was played at a very high tempo, the more they get exposed to limmitted time on the ball they will develop well and they reacted quite well to it on the night.
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SWandP - 2 Oct 2018 4:47 PM
Bocca - 2 Oct 2018 12:14 PM

They are like 14-15 years old.  I expect not one of them to get a run in a fully professional game.

Kirdar is the closest but will probably just make the bench at Victory if anything. Don't think anyone else will. But you'd expect most of these guys to be in their respective NYL teams.

off-topic -- I did a bit of research regarding the whereabouts of some of the guys who didn't make this squad, and found that Diego Alonso who was at a Spanish academy when this first U16 team was announced. He is now playing at Valencia CF youth. 

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/diego-alonso-dreams-of-playing-football-with-club-barcelona/news-story/6481f5db0759254062a86e3e157fc4d2

an article on him whilst at WSW.
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A.Robertson-Man City youth (England)
T.Hammond-Sporting youth (Portugal)
A.Hammond-Belenenses youth (Portugal)
D.Alonso-Valencia youth (Spain)
E.Pavlis-Olympiacos youth (Greece)
R.Warland-Fulham youth (England)

Pretty much the overseas contingent the coach wanted to bring in or take a look at.

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chondro - 2 Oct 2018 6:32 PM
A.Robertson-Man City youth (England)T.Hammond-Sporting youth (Portugal)A.Hammond-Belenenses youth (Portugal)D.Alonso-Valencia youth (Spain)E.Pavlis-Olympiacos youth (Greece)R.Warland-Fulham youth (England)Pretty much the overseas contingent the coach wanted to bring in or take a look at.

Think Aydan left Belenenses, according to zerozero.pt and Alex Araujo on twitter.

interesting thing is that Tristan was also at Belenenses before leaving for Sporting, so we'll wait and see what happens.
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Ds98 - 2 Oct 2018 6:53 PM
chondro - 2 Oct 2018 6:32 PM

Think Aydan left Belenenses, according to zerozero.pt and Alex Araujo on twitter.

interesting thing is that Tristan was also at Belenenses before leaving for Sporting, so we'll wait and see what happens.

It might have something to do with the club splitting into two. In Portugal, a company can own a football club but the company board and the football club board had a disagreement and split so there's a "Belenenses SAD" in the top flight with no youth teams and the original "CF Os Belenenses" who have restarted in the district leagues of Lisbon. Very odd situation.

Portuguese: https://www.publico.pt/2018/09/30/desporto/noticia/a-sad-ficou-com-o-futebol-profissional-o-belenenses-quer-ficar-com-tudo-1845817
English: https://portugoal.net/club-news/945-a-tale-of-two-belems
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theFOOTBALLlover - 2 Oct 2018 10:51 PM
Ds98 - 2 Oct 2018 6:53 PM

It might have something to do with the club splitting into two. In Portugal, a company can own a football club but the company board and the football club board had a disagreement and split so there's a "Belenenses SAD" in the top flight with no youth teams and the original "CF Os Belenenses" who have restarted in the district leagues of Lisbon. Very odd situation.

Portuguese: https://www.publico.pt/2018/09/30/desporto/noticia/a-sad-ficou-com-o-futebol-profissional-o-belenenses-quer-ficar-com-tudo-1845817
English: https://portugoal.net/club-news/945-a-tale-of-two-belems

Ahh ok cheers for clearing that up!!
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Ds98 - 1 Oct 2018 11:04 PM
Decentric - 1 Oct 2018 10:57 PM

heres the full-match

https://www.facebook.com/clintonmargagultom/videos/144906266461683/

Saw about half of it, bore the stream ended.

There was some pleasing central attacking interplay from Oz.
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Decentric - 3 Oct 2018 2:58 PM
Ds98 - 1 Oct 2018 11:04 PM

Saw about half of it, bore the stream ended.

There was some pleasing central attacking interplay from Oz.

Decentric, I am interested on your take as to how this group relates to other recent ones in terms of individual skill and tactical awareness.


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Decentric - 3 Oct 2018 2:58 PM

Decentric, I am interested on your take as to how this group relates to other recent ones in terms of individual skill and tactical awareness.


I only saw 40 minutes on an iPhone with a small screen. Unfortunately, my older desktop Mac doesn't load many videos anymore.

A couple of the forwards made some penetrating runs, but in general it is hard to appraise this team compared to previous ones in that 40 min time frame. So, sorry, I can't really answer your question properly.

In the media Arnie waxed lyrical about them.
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Semi Final v Japan at 18:30 AEST today.
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paladisious - 4 Oct 2018 10:30 AM
Semi Final v Japan at 18:30 AEST today.

anywhere we can watch this? 
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Melbcityguy - 4 Oct 2018 10:48 AM
paladisious - 4 Oct 2018 10:30 AM

anywhere we can watch this? 

there will be plenty of streams once the game is nearly on. 
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Ds98 - 4 Oct 2018 10:59 AM
Melbcityguy - 4 Oct 2018 10:48 AM

there will be plenty of streams once the game is nearly on. 

Hopefully not filmed with a potato.


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