Membership for 2018/2019


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Ha ha.

I recon we’ll have more members than wanderers this season and that we’ll both finish higher than them.

I recon this year it’s a Roar/City fight for first and second place and Aloisi with sweet revenge in the GF.

The good news is City will at least qualify for the ACL ... at last ...
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95,647 with a week to go.
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The HAL is running ahead by about 4% or 3275 from where it was a 1 week out from the season last year. 92372 vs 95647

SFC are down 1325 (11%)
WSW are down 1049 (6%)
CCM are down 747 (16%) 
MVC are down 355 (1%)
MCI are down 274 (3%)
Glory are down 212 (3%)

NIX are up 1358 (49%)
ADL are up 1517 (32%)
Jets are up 1705 (23%)
BRI are up 2657 (47%) 

1385 to beat last years starting total. 4353 to hit 100.000.
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12/10/18

 
Membership at season start
 
Total Membership
 
 
Club
18/19
17/18
 
17/18
16/17
15/16
14/15
AU
                6,316
            5,323 
 
        6,677 
       10,099 
            8,720 
            9,505 
Roar
                8,284
            6,258 
 
        8,664 
         7,050 
            5,347 
          12,113 
CCM
                3,903
            5,256 
 
        6,939 
         6,265 
            6,048 
            6,242 
MLC
                8,229
            9,386 
 
      10,702 
       13,078 
            9,278 
          11,759 
MLV
              23,670
          24,025 
 
      25,674 
       26,251 
          27,054 
          24,200 
Jets
                9,033
            7,542 
 
        8,578 
         8,703 
            9,284 
          10,003 
PG
                6,140
            6,555 
 
        8,540 
         8,644 
            7,109 
            6,298 
STF
              10,743
          12,122 
 
      13,779 
       12,512 
          13,153 
          11,510 
Nix
                4,142
            4,200 
 
        5,230 
         4,791 
            5,035 
            4,185 
WSW
              15,187
          16,365 
 
      17,131 
       20,022 
          18,349 
          18,706 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
            95,647
          97,032
 
   111,914 
    117,415 
       109,377 
       114,521 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Start of season Membership
 
     97,032 
      96,877 
         89,437 
         97,252 


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I think I did cross-check a bit, but going by last season's thread also difficult for now, so thanks for clarification Midfielder, maybe I'll re-try closer to the date with the figures I had gathered last year: https://forum.insidesport.com.au/FindPost2587014.aspx
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GloryPerth - 13 Oct 2018 12:25 AM
Just to continue Pat Jennings' good work, but with more up to date/corrected figures, following Midfielder's table above:

The HAL is down by 1.4% or 1386 from where it was a 1 week out from the season last year. 95,647 vs 97,032

CCM are down 1353 (-25%)
MCI are down 1157 (-12%)
SFC are down 1379 (-11%)
WSW are down 1178 (-7%)
Glory are down 415 (-6%)

Victory are marginally down by 355 (-1%)
NIX are marginally down by 58 (-1%)

ADL are up 993 (19%)
Jets are up 1491 (20%)
BRI are up 2026 (32%)

Sorry my table shows last year at the start of the season not a week out.

If you look at the last line of the table it shows the season starting figures, 

What PJ did was look at the figures a week out. As I said mine have the Friday the season started last year... only so much you can get in a table without making it confusing 


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patjennings - 12 Oct 2018 4:36 PM
The HAL is running ahead by about 4% or 3275 from where it was a 1 week out from the season last year. 92372 vs 95647

SFC are down 1325 (11%)
WSW are down 1049 (6%)
CCM are down 747 (16%) 
MVC are down 355 (1%)
MCI are down 274 (3%)
Glory are down 212 (3%)

NIX are up 1358 (49%)
ADL are up 1517 (32%)
Jets are up 1705 (23%)
BRI are up 2657 (47%) 

1385 to beat last years starting total. 4353 to hit 100.000.

think we will get there? 
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patjennings - 12 Oct 2018 4:36 PM
1385 to beat last years starting total. 4353 to hit 100.000.

even if we do, it doesn't look great consideirng the season starts 2 weeks later. and consideirng the later start, there is less likely to be an increase in post Round 1 membership numbers
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“it doesn't look great consideirng the season starts 2 weeks later” ... what’s that got to do with it?

“and consideirng the later start, there is less likely to be an increase in post Round 1 membership numbers” ... why?
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Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2018 10:09 AM
patjennings - 12 Oct 2018 4:36 PM

even if we do, it doesn't look great consideirng the season starts 2 weeks later. and consideirng the later start, there is less likely to be an increase in post Round 1 membership numbers

You've lost me, what's your reasoning? There is still 26 rounds to go after round 1, as there was last year.
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I vote this thread gets stickied

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Waz - 15 Oct 2018 11:11 AM
“it doesn't look great consideirng the season starts 2 weeks later” ... what’s that got to do with it? “and consideirng the later start, there is less likely to be an increase in post Round 1 membership numbers” ... why?

I think the point is that even though the season started later, the sales and marketing of memberships started the same time as previous years, so it will be interesting if there is the usual increase after round 1 or whether that growth has been used up already. This was something I was also thinking about.









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Wanderers will be interesting to watch.  They don't have a home game until Round 4 so late sign ups would be expected but if they get off to a bad start that might not happen.
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@AJF

That’s drawing a long bow. The membership numbers are effectively “flat” on last year and might go over by a bit but it’s nothing to get excited about.

Christmas still occurs after R1 which is where clubs get their biggest kicker from with people buying presents and for the second half of the season.
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@Waz, speaking from experience, MV were much more active in pushing their membership this year and they did start marketing at the same time, including multiple direct calls to organise payment over the phone. Other people I know were the same and there isnt too many holding out so dont expect much growth after rnd 1. But we will see.









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@ AJF

I think the same can be said of Roar, way more organised than last year and better pricing and promotion all round.

I’m not bullish about attendances this year but membership suggests the slide has ended but that the recovery hasn’t started.

Personally I think we’re on the same trajectory as last year - there’ll be a lift in memberships post round 1 based on individual team form (remembering more than half of memberships sold are for 3 or 5 games which you don’t need to buy before R1) and another lift before Christmas

I also think the clubs will get a lift with the new 2-3 game miniroos pass which are technically membership. If they do that there’ll be a significant uplift but hopefully that happens late in the season so we can do a like for like comparison.

But this “2 weeks later thing” is irrelevant I think, people anchor their purchasing decision around when the Season starts not the calendar
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Melbourne Victory at 24220. 
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Gyfox - 15 Oct 2018 6:03 PM
Wanderers will be interesting to watch.  They don't have a home game until Round 4 so late sign ups would be expected but if they get off to a bad start that might not happen.

We actually don't have a home game until Round 5 near the end of November.
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sydneycroatia58 - 16 Oct 2018 1:58 PM
Gyfox - 15 Oct 2018 6:03 PM

We actually don't have a home game until Round 5 near the end of November.

My bad.  Our first home game is 23/11 v Newcastle.
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When do WSW play out of the new stadium?
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azzaMVFC - 16 Oct 2018 2:21 PM
When do WSW play out of the new stadium?

Next season
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MV called me before last season to renew, but didn’t call me this season even though I left it a lot later.
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well today is the last update before the start of the season 
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Roar announced yesterday they are adding the 6,500 ‘Roar Rascals’ to their membership numbers. Not sure if it will be added to today’s total but Roars membership number will jump to nearly 15k when they do.
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What are the Roar Rascals? Free under 8 members?
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Waz - 19 Oct 2018 8:20 AM
Roar announced yesterday they are adding the 6,500 ‘Roar Rascals’ to their membership numbers. Not sure if it will be added to today’s total but Roars membership number will jump to nearly 15k when they do.

that's cheating!! haha 
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I’m guessing most clubs will have the equivalent of Roar Rascals as it’s built out of the free MiniRoos tickets.

It’s a 2+2 game family membership. 2 free games and 2 games for $95

At the start of the week they had about 6,500 of these sold and might push 10k when they start pushing it again next week.

I’d rather they left the addition of these numbers until later in the season though, it will distort comparisons with previous seasons (although the club will argue it’s just an extension of the membership options and a legitimate connection to grassroots which people have been arguing for)
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Waz - 19 Oct 2018 8:50 AM
I’m guessing most clubs will have the equivalent of Roar Rascals as it’s built out of the free MiniRoos tickets. It’s a 2+2 game family membership. 2 free games and 2 games for $95 At the start of the week they had about 6,500 of these sold and might push 10k when they start pushing it again next week. I’d rather they left the addition of these numbers until later in the season though, it will distort comparisons with previous seasons (although the club will argue it’s just an extension of the membership options and a legitimate connection to grassroots which people have been arguing for)

Great job by Roar. That sounds like a lot. Any other clubs announce there figures for that option?
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Waz - 19 Oct 2018 8:50 AM
I’m guessing most clubs will have the equivalent of Roar Rascals as it’s built out of the free MiniRoos tickets. It’s a 2+2 game family membership. 2 free games and 2 games for $95 At the start of the week they had about 6,500 of these sold and might push 10k when they start pushing it again next week. I’d rather they left the addition of these numbers until later in the season though, it will distort comparisons with previous seasons (although the club will argue it’s just an extension of the membership options and a legitimate connection to grassroots which people have been arguing for)

It would be interesting to see the full breakdown of the tally. All clubs offer various tiers and membership options. I'm sure MV would still be on top for full season members but would be interesting to see by how much and how the list changes if we only count full season members.
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someguyjc - 19 Oct 2018 9:29 AM
Waz - 19 Oct 2018 8:50 AM

It would be interesting to see the full breakdown of the tally. All clubs offer various tiers and membership options. I'm sure MV would still be on top for full season members but would be interesting to see by how much and how the list changes if we only count full season members.

Victory have a lot a five game and country members as they get support accross regional Victoria. I have heard they have a many as 5000 members in Geelong. You would imagine a lot of those are not full memberships.
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