On a positive note, our attendances are on par with NRL 

Only the three big teams are really .Adelaide too when they are winning. Other than that i dont see too many 5k crowds out and about in the NRL. 

NRL gets 5k in the rain all the time.......and the reason they don't have a team on the Central Coast is that they don't want regular crowds of 6k

TBF I really like CCM. Perfect little stadium for a tight community. I have a massive soft spot for them. If they can sustain their club with crowds such as 6k then so be it. We need caps on salaries gone so if they do get relegated they can continue to sustain themselves.

would be interesting to see how ccm v adelaide went against the cricket yesterday when people all over social media were claiming they didn't even know was on. 


its my understanding that the AFL started low and picked up a little as the season went on. this makes the "one sided games" argument irrelelavant as most of the garbage games come at the end of the season when teams are out of finals contention.  

CCm v Adelaide rated 41,000

ODI rated in at 277,000 and 133,000

https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/sunday-4-november-2018/6238

“At the close of R3, the average Foxtel audience for the A-league has dropped 34.35% to an average of 52,000 per game, down from 78,000 at the start of the 2017-18 season. R3 was watched by 221,000 on Foxtel. Streaming figures not available.”

Footyindustry tweet

Mariners/Reds 41,000. Same source.

Its been a difficult nay disastrous start to the season, crowds and ratings heading south with memberships looking to have a slight growth and streaming an unknown but being touted as high as a third of the viewing audience.  

There is no hiding we are not in a good spot.

My reading of the tea leaf’s and tarot card’s says there are four main reasons.
·         Three years of civil war between stakeholders.
·         Near constant negativity over the last three years by both main stream but especially social media.
·         Media, infighting today, reports I have read indicate Fox and Ten new CBS ownership's don’t like each other, and SBS when not in charge always sulk. I have read where   Fox are concerned the clubs when they get together may go to a totally new broadcast format and they are none to happy.
·         Finally, the splitting of the EPL & Hal viewers

We need to win back trust.

As to whether P & R is a fix all, its a mute point as I see it in that we all agree it needs to happen, but the money man say its financially impossible at this stage of our development.

Who ever finishes up in charge has a mega job to stop the decline and start growth again. 

Yeah

I know that sometimes as I'm getting ready to watch matches on tv, I think "actually, CBS and Fox haven't been getting along lately...so I think I'll skip tonight's game".

Thats clever of you. I admire how astute you must be.

As for others maybe its the lack of promotion especially cross promotional activity ... I watched the project in the week leading up to rd 1 and the lead up to Rd 2... almost zero mention and yet Super Cars and 10's own internal shows mentioned heaps of times...

One of the key reasons for going to Ten was the supposed promotional effort a FTA would make ... but its been very little and the talk is CBS & News do not like each other .

How did peppa pig do?

Smashed it.

Right.  So the reason half of our existing audience has disappeared (in about 2 years) is that fans have forgotten HAL games are played on Friday and Saturday nights. 
Forget new fans, the old ones have just forgotten ----  and they need reminders through "cross promotional activity".

ok

Also ---- "CBS & News do not like each other" --- so...y'know --- that causes existing fans to avoid watching matches as well.

case closed

How did S M Hellas go?

If you could read there where four major points, so lets forget about the other three and be a total smart arse and bang on and on and ignore the other 3, also ignore what a lack of promotion does... further lets ignore the opening of the post that says we are in deep deep trouble.... 

Posting insecurity ignore 95% of a post... then concentrate on one aspect and then misrepresent that ... do you work for a political party ... 

ch one only signed a 2 year deal. surely leaving next season. 

Bahahaha at your stupidity

I think foxtel losing EPL is the biggest factor.
As a curtain raiser the Aleague benefitted to the.massive audience that would tune tn to the EPL
My instinct is that the price of broadcasting will probably be worth 70% of the current deal even with expansion teams X 2
Then what happens?

Reference was to Paulc

What do you mean? They don't play in the A-League.

hahaha how defensive does this bloke get

Its a difficult time for old pauly, with the boardroom revolts and political power grabs, money squabbles, foreign country identties encroaching on the HAL (first Brisbane acknowledging their Dutch heritage, then WP with their Maori, and now MV with Japanese shirt) collapsing crowd and TV numbers, the HAL is turning into the thing he despises the most, the NSL (but without the junior development). The horror.

https://amp.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/foxtel-s-first-tilt-at-cricket-takes-massive-ratings-hit-20181105-p50e2r.html?__twitter_impression=true

Crickets struggling as well

I suspect Paulc was rejected by one too many Greek girls while growing up. I can’t explain the hatred otherwise...

maybe he lost his girlfriend to a handsome SM player (striker most likely) when they were playing Brisbane Hollandia and he has never been able to get over it.

Makes sense. He just needs a bit of Dutch courage then.

There seems.to be a thought that FTA would automatically increase viewers of the ALeague
I don't agree
FTA channels have acess to a.much.larger audience however you still need to incentivise he audience to tune in

Football has many issues on multiple fronts
many of you may disagree however a big issue with the aleague is that it is not necessary tailored for the hardcore football fan but rather the entertainment industry.

i think the main 2 targets for FTA games in the medium term are to get games on a primary FTA channel and to get the local teams played in the local market on FTA as much as possible. for example, showing Brisbane Roar v Sydney FC on Ch One in Melbourne ain't gonna boost the ratings.

City v Wellington 39k
Matildas v Chile 49k
Wanderers v Brisbane 52k
Newcastle v Sydney  48k

The new Board has a big job in front of them.The damage done to the game by the S.Lowy reign will not be easy to fix.
50% drop off in ratings in two years is catastrophic.
Streaming excuses just dont cut it.
The trend is set by every year previously,so ratings will only continue to slide.

At some stage there needs to be a reboot under a proper governance ,hopefully with promotion and relegation.

In my opinion there are many contributory reasons for the dramatic slide in ratings.But the broken ,closed shop franchise model is at the heart of everything.
It was always a failed model.The FFA acknowledged this years ago.But what have they done?
FFA have focused on trying to do everything to make the broken model survive.All at the expense of fans,youth ,the game and the what the football community really wants.
The result has been a consistent decoupling of the fans from the game.(The womens game being the only bright spot as it has finally risen from a base which was rock bottom).Given time it would naturally follow the path of the HAL,as the top tier blocks out everyone except the elite few.)

For the HAL the problem is not going to be fixed with the current model.It will get worse until it hits a bottom ,where only diehard fans follow the games.When that occurs is anyones guess.
Expansion will give a temporary sugar hit,but will soon be forgotton as normal service is resumed ,but with more teams that have little chance of winning the competition.
The relaxing of the salary cap has contributed to the fall in ratings,because the richer teams are stronger,which more importantly means the likes of WP and CCM are perpetual cellar dwellars.
If the salary cap is reduced or eliminated it can only happen if there is relegation .Otherwise we will,have half the game meaningless except to the top teams fans.