Gotta give all the boys respect though. Wouldn't be easy far away from home, specially at that age. Been there done that, most of the boys are still very very young. They deserve all of our full support =d>

Does anyone else detect a slight German accent developing?

Not quite as bad as Troisi's "goldmember" Flemish (after a month), but I can just hear it coming...

Amini's case reminds me a little about Culina's situation at Ajax, he couldn't break through and so he ended up leaving and signed for FC Twente.

I think if Amini can make that breakthrough at another club in Europe it could mean he can start to compete for a Socceroos jersey. He's still got time but he needs to move very soon.

Edited by Barca4life: 25/12/2014 09:34:57 PM

Their team goals are different. BvB II can't get promoted so their goal is to produce as many youngsters for the first team while staying in the league. Swindon and PNE's only goal is promotion. In their last game BvB II had 3 23 year olds a 32 year old and the rest 21 or younger. PNE's youngest player was 25.

EDIT: Just as a note. I am not saying Amini is better than the two you mentioned, or that his should be picked. I just don't think he should be discounted for playing for a "2" side

Edited by moofa: 25/12/2014 08:08:59 PM

A Leckie interview from a couple of months back.

[youtube]watch?v=P-dmoHESsTk[/youtube]

also, Luongo and Bailey Wright are playing for teams that are 1pt off the top of their league , Amini team is near the bottom, it does make a different

He has been in Germany for 3 seasons, missed half a season with a back injury, didn't play much when he was first settling has had multiple other injuries where he has had to fight to get back in the team. He has 44 games for BvB 2, 1 less than from his 2 season at CCM but has played 1000 more minutes (3000 to 2000). I think if he was in Aus he would be regarded as well as Antonis.

On Germany vs England lower leagues. 3.liga is professional but the last professional league so probably has less money. The Tv deal is for the Bundesliga which is the top 2 tiers (like if it was the premier league and 2nd premier league before the football league in england) so their is some money in the 2.Bundesliga. Also there are 56 teams in the top 3 leagues in Germany compared to 68 in England. Lastly there is an extra 27 million people in Germany so you would expect more good German players filling the lower leagues. Not saying it is better but I think there is a good argument for even with less money it is a good level.

Jedinak made ESPNFC's Mid-season Starting XI, which is a list of the best players in the Premier League so far.

Link

#caphim

It's true, IIRC a precedent may've been Bayern II, who placed high in a 3 Liga season a few years ago, but were restricted from being promoted beyond the Third Tier to Bundi 2 and that seems reasonable.

Germany is no Mickey Mouse football system and I think alot are naturally ignorant or biased to England. But England isn't the only competition with a deep football league system with teams from many sized centres, with strong football cultures. Just as some of us who may follow lower league teams in England may talk of the likes of Leeds, Nottingham Forest, Bristol, the Sheffield Teams, Portsmouth and co, we can talk in Germany of teams like Nurnberg, Dusseldorf, Kaiserlautern, 1860 Munich (Bayern's intra-city rival), Bochum, Frankfurt's intra-city rival - FSV (Leckie played with them), Kiel, Bielefeld or from the East like Dresden, re-branded 'RB' Leipzig (Who rocket up the leagues), Union Berlin, Rostock, Chemnitz, Cottbus, Halle and others.

The lower leagues of Germany are much more than the likes of Bayern and Dortmund's II sides.

BTW The way some of you talk - I'm sure the 3 Liga isn't incomparable or too inferior to England's own Third tier, League One. There may be higher wage budgets, more money about, not sure, but I doubt there's a great difference in standard. Yet, as some FFTers have observed, we pluck Socceroos from League One like Mass Luongo and Bailey Wright, yet Musti Amini takes a bit longer. Though to be fair, Amini hasn't been starring in 3 Liga till recent times - I think he was injured or in and out of the Dort II team, prior seasons?

Edited by GloryPerth: 23/12/2014 05:14:36 PM

lame

Pretty sure that's not allowed to happen. The team below BVB II would go up instead.

Edited by Bowden: 23/12/2014 03:09:36 PM

that would be hilarious if BD 2 got the promotion as well.

your so right, it not that it's just 3rd div, it's 3rd div and they are down the bottom of 3rd div

At this rate, the possibilities next season of Amini getting into the first team at Dortmund and him playing for a Buli.2 side may not be mutually exclusive!

Would love to see him playing regularly in Buli 2 and then work his way up from there.

True but those pre season games were promising plus Klopp is known for a few wild decisions but Amini really needs to get a move to the above mentioned leagues.

He was never a chance to break into the Dortmund first team if we are going to be honest with ourselves. He should have sought a loan to Buli.2 or even somewhere in Austria or Turkey.

The guy needs to be playing at a higher level than the 3. Liga.

Amini has just got a harder job with Dortmund signing attacking midfielder Kevin Kampl, a Slovenian international. I prefer Amini deeper anyway but it'll be tough for him to break into the first team.

Interested about next games for Langerak and Jones.

Brugge romped it in the second half with three goals, FT 4-1, Ryan with nothing much to do.

Absolute clanger by a Genk defender passing it straight to the Brugges striker right in front of goal, Ryan arm in arm with his manager, I suppose joking about it. Club Brugge winning 2-1, still unsure of the circumstances of the goal conceded.

Skrtel, after a terrible game in defence, heads in the equaliser from a 97th minute corner. 2-2. :lol:

Jones might be safe for another week.

Second yellow for Liverpool's Borini, and nine minutes of added time. Jones might be busy very soon.

Ryan saving a penalty then conceding a minute afterwards? Unsure, still got the Liverpool Arsenal game on.

Everyone blaming the defenders on twitter.

Jones beaten at his near post by Giroud slamming it at point blank range, defenders nowhere to be seen.

Interesting to see where the recriminations will land for these ones.

Jones letting one through from a FK at the death of the first half, in fairness Skrtel should have dealt with it.

1-1 at HT.

Edited by paladisious: 22/12/2014 03:48:49 AM

Jones will either be MOTM or concede 5 shockers. No inbetweens.