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+xThere is nothing in that report about India being upset about it... India as I read elsewhere is going to play its entire squad of 18 making sure it has no FC status and simply use it as an outdoor net... You meant the complaint URL. I heard it the other day and it was confirmed in this mornings Telegraph.
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How are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies.
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+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it.
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+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. That was why he prospered. Give him the traditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct?
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Youre right. Was thinking Patterson was 27/28.
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Maxwell also averages 41 in first class but its also somehow not up there because he doesnt convert. Handscomb with back to back 50s in the shield should be palying a test next
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+xYoure right. Was thinking Patterson was 27/28. Patterson is your 75,48,24, 88, 67, 31 type batsman. Add those and you have a fair average.
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+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli?
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+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swining. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? Aus can still beat in Ind in Aus. But stop trying to reinvent who was better in SA or England. It was India hands down. For batting and bowling... That is the truth... I'm not lying to you. Eng swung, SA was spicey, India pushed the games to the nth. In SA - ABdV rose, for England - S Curran rose and (C Woakes tonned up). Kohli was the best in both series.... I don't get what you're trying to get me to say? Do I think Ind, SA and Eng are better than Aus in SA and Eng - Yes - Yes I do. All day - every day. Even with Smith and Warner. The only question is - can India beat Aus on Aus Roads... I do not know... I really don't. Your pitches break seamers and swingers without tall bouncy pace and metronomic accuracy... But please don't tell me that 5th placed Australia is as good as 1st placed India in 2nd placed SA or 3rd placed Eng. Because I am not buying it... Because it predates the bans... TBF... This may be tough pill to swallow - but CA lost its wheels a long time ago for global fan. We have kinda gotten use to CA losing in Asia or England. It has been happening for so long... Baggers I will let you into a secret, since you failed to beat England since 2001 in Eng, since you drew in Bangladesh WITHA LOST TEST, were thrashed in SL, lost at home and away to SA, lost back to back in the UAE, and not won in India since Gilly, noone - I mean noone - really ranks CA away. At all. Australia's entire global rep is "flat track bully". Now this may be a bitter pill to swallow. But its been this way for a very long time now. CA is only respected on ROADS... That is where CA shines... Now you can't beat the king of swing England on roads since 2001. Personally I think NZC outswing England - but that is neither here nor there. SA - kings of seam (but Eng beat them there last during an SA injury crisis). And noone is going to nominate CA over Pak or Ind in spin... Ind probably win here seeing SL upset Pak... CA is known for roads. That is your domain. That is where your cricket is respected. Nowhere else. Not swing, not seam, not spin... Don't make claims of lateral movement with no ability to support it in the past 5 years or so... (MJ bounced SA when Aus won there the tour before last - not lateral movement...) It is what it is... #elitehonesty... CA is only feared in Australia. Outside Australia - its game on. You don't seem to get it... You're like India - but India beats SA at home... And pushed SA and Eng all the way away... Look at Mitch Marsh. Look at Shaun Marsh. Look at your "world class attack" and what they average of late... Aus is not feared as a tourist. It is embraced. CA dont't swing. They don't seam. And they don't spin. Aus is like 1990's India in its respect globally - it wins at home... Bar the last three SA tours and England in 2010/11...
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I've been honest and candid with you from the get go.
Aus needs roads.
You will not beat India on swinging tracks.
No chance at all.
Swing these days is the reserve of Ind, Pak, Eng, SA and NZ - not AFL players... #no offence...
WI with the Dukes may join my lists (I will confirm after England tour)
But 6'6" AFL players throwing down 156grms at 145km/h into concrete - that is where Aus shines...
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| POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | INN | RUNS | AVG | SR | 4s | 6s |
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| 1 | Virat Kohli | India | 10 | 593 | 59.30 | 57.85 | 67 | 1 | | 2 | Jos Buttler | England | 9 | 349 | 38.78 | 67.77 | 44 | 4 | | 3 | Alastair Cook | England | 9 | 327 | 36.33 | 45.54 | 39 | - | | 4 | Joe Root | England | 9 | 319 | 35.44 | 52.47 | 34 | 1 | | 5 | Lokesh Rahul | India | 10 | 299 | 29.90 | 66.44 | 44 | 1 | | 6 | Cheteshwar Pujara | India | 8 | 278 | 39.71 | 38.29 | 33 | - | | 7 | Sam Curran | England | 7 | 272 | 38.86 | 62.39 | 32 | 5 | | 8 | Ajinkya Rahane | India | 10 | 257 | 25.70 | 40.22 | 27 | - | | 9 | Jonny Bairstow | England | 9 | 230 | 25.56 | 63.54 | 32 | - | | 10 | Ben Stokes | England | 8 | 200 | 25.00 | 38.54 | 22 | 1 | | 11 | Hardik Pandya | India | 8 | 164 | 23.43 | 56.94 | 26 | 1 | | 12 | Keaton Jennings | England | 9 | 163 | 18.11 | 40.25 | 18 | - | | 13 | Rishabh Pant | India | 6 | 162 | 27.00 | 64.29 | 20 | 6 | | 14 | Shikhar Dhawan | India | 8 | 162 | 20.25 | 55.48 | 23 | - |
This is how far ahead Kohli was to the rest of the batsmen. He averaged 59. And this is how much it was swinging... | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | MATCH | INNS | ECO | AVG | SR |
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| 1 | James Anderson | England | 5 | 10 | 2.37 | 18.12 | 45.92 | | 2 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 4 | 7 | 2.58 | 32.73 | 76.18 | | 3 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 3 | 6 | 2.72 | 25.93 | 57.14 | | 4 | Chris Woakes | England | 2 | 4 | 2.88 | 20.88 | 43.50 | | 5 | Ishant Sharma | India | 5 | 9 | 2.89 | 24.28 | 50.33 | | 6 | Stuart Broad | England | 5 | 10 | 3.13 | 29.69 | 56.94 | | 7 | Umesh Yadav | India | 1 | 2 | 3.17 | 25.33 | 48.00 | | 8 | Moeen Ali | England | 2 | 4 | 3.32 | 21.00 | 38.00 | | 9 | Sam Curran | England | 4 | 8 | 3.33 | 23.55 | 42.36 | | 10 | Ravindra Jadeja | India | 1 | 2 | 3.35 | 36.86 | 66.00 |
Notice Anderson, Woakes, Sharma and Curran... Even Pandya got a 5/for in a 6 over spell! | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | OVS | WKTS | RUNS | MAIDENS | ECON | VS |
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| 1 | James Anderson | England | 13.2 | 5 | 20 | 5 | 1.52 | India | | 2 | Hardik Pandya | India | 6.0 | 5 | 28 | 1 | 4.67 | England | | 3 | Ishant Sharma | India | 13.0 | 5 | 51 | - | 3.92 | England | | 4 | Moeen Ali | England | 16.0 | 5 | 63 | 1 | 3.94 | India | | 5 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 29.0 | 5 | 85 | 8 | 2.93 | England | | 6 | James Anderson | England | 12.0 | 4 | 23 | 5 | 1.92 | India | | 7 | Ben Stokes | England | 14.2 | 4 | 40 | 2 | 2.82 | India | | 8 | Stuart Broad | England | 16.0 | 4 | 44 | 6 | 2.75 | India | | 9 | Mohammed Shami | India | 16.0 | 4 | 57 | - | 3.56 | England | | 10 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 26.0 | 4 | 62 | 7 | 2.38 | England |
South Africa was even worse... | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | INN | RUNS | AVG | SR | 4s | 6s |
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| 1 | Virat Kohli | India | 6 | 286 | 47.67 | 60.21 | 35 | - | | 2 | AB de Villiers | South Africa | 6 | 211 | 35.17 | 62.99 | 26 | 2 | | 3 | Dean Elgar | South Africa | 6 | 207 | 41.40 | 38.26 | 25 | 2 | | 4 | Hashim Amla | South Africa | 6 | 203 | 33.83 | 45.21 | 27 | - | | 5 | Faf du Plessis | South Africa | 6 | 183 | 30.50 | 43.57 | 26 | - | | 6 | Aiden Markram | South Africa | 6 | 140 | 23.33 | 61.67 | 24 | - | | 7 | Hardik Pandya | India | 6 | 119 | 19.83 | 68.79 | 16 | 1 | | 8 | Murali Vijay | India | 6 | 102 | 17.00 | 28.41 | 11 | - | | 9 | Bhuvneshwar Kumar | India | 4 | 101 | 33.67 | 40.08 | 11 | - | | 10 | Cheteshwar Pujara | India | 6 | 100 | 16.67 | 29.24 | 15 | - |
| POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | MATCH | INNS | ECO | AVG | SR |
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| 1 | Ishant Sharma | India | 2 | 4 | 2.17 | 18.75 | 51.75 | | 2 | Vernon Philander | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.47 | 15.87 | 38.53 | | 3 | Morne Morkel | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.65 | 20.00 | 45.31 | | 4 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 2 | 4 | 2.81 | 30.71 | 65.57 | | 5 | Kagiso Rabada | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.91 | 20.27 | 41.73 | | 6 | Lungi Ngidi | South Africa | 2 | 4 | 2.91 | 17.22 | 35.56 | | 7 | Dale Steyn | South Africa | 1 | 1 | 2.91 | 25.50 | 52.50 | | 8 | Bhuvneshwar Kumar | India | 2 | 4 | 3.03 | 20.30 | 40.20 | | 9 | Mohammed Shami | India | 3 | 6 | 3.07 | 17.07 | 33.40 | | 10 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 3 | 6 | 3.15 | 25.21 | 48.07 |
Just look at the seamer's bowling averages... Kohli is the complete package. He's proven and passed every test in world cricket. His batting team mates have not however. His batsmen have failed in Safrica and England. His bowlers however were a success. SAfrica and England's spicey and swinging conditions put a serious dent into the test careers of Vijay, Dhawan, Karthik and Rahul who were all dropped. One of them has to open with Shaw in the first test. But who will it be?
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+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller...
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+x+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller... No I have not. I read 6 plus Mitch Marsh as reserve batsman/bowler. The remainder I bracketed. Choose one specialist bat from the list. You love being objectionable Paddles.
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The India tour match is underway as the showers have now cleared from Sydney. Not in my neck of the wood tho. Still very overcast here in the south.
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+x+x+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller... No I have not. I read 6 plus Mitch Marsh as reserve batsman/bowler. The remainder I bracketed. Choose one specialist bat from the list. You love being objectionable Paddles. Heh - but objectively so... :-) I am more than happy to agree as well. But after many, oh so many years of NZC and ECB suffering so many, oh so many bits and pieces cricketers... There are more than one or two NZC and ECB fans quite enjoying the Mitch Marsh situation among Australian fans. His brother and the Langer coach thing just tips it off. For the best part of two decades Australian cricket just dominated with an endless glut of talent. But now you're getting a few ideas of what it is like to have been a NZC or ECB fan in the 1990's. It was not easy going. :P Supporting in the bewilderment of "is this really the best cricketer in the country for this position?" When a player's all-round stats would come up on screen - and Lawry or Chappeli would say "what is he?" .... and someone else would say "geee - he must be good in the field or something".... and the Aussie fan would go as far to say... "why does your team pick so many no-rounders?"... So trust me, NZC and ECB fans are going to give a little bit back re: M Marsh...
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+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which meant batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comms saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived. By this time your trundler Curran had stopped swinging the ball. Anderson can swing the ball in his sleep.. but even was not as effective as earlier matches. Most wickets then fell to seam or spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball.
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The SCG decks has a decided greenish tinge to it after the deluge last two days. Are these CAX1 bowlers up to exploiting any movement there is? I am backing David Grant to.
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+xThe SCG decks has a decided greenish tinge to it after the deluge last two days. Are these CAX1 bowlers up to exploiting any movement there is? I am backing David Grant to. This Aaron Summers is supposed to have some heat about his bowling. Pity he does not accuracy to go with it.
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+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging.
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Why are some state coaches not supporting NPS scholars in making the next step in their careers. David Grant is a promising bowler but he has played just 4 FC matches in two years. His numbers in FL have been more than respectable without being brilliant while he has always acquitted himself well for CAX1 sides. But the kid.. actually he is now 23..has to be given some confidence that he has the game to reach the next level and beyond. Being stuck in the lower tier he appears to have been forgotten by the SACA selectors. Luckily CA still rates him. This r/a seamer is good. I saw him give Hashim Amla a real workout before shattering his stumps with a pearler. He took a coupla more Saffer wickets that day if memory serves. He would have been 20 then. At that stage he should have been given a decent run in FC cricket to cement his position.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging. Woakes is very much a swing bowler in England and always has been... "My main attribute was my ability to swing the ball and I didn't want to lose that. It's been over a period of about three years and it's good to see the rewards." https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/29209380Toby Roland Jones and Mark Wood are the seamers. Pandya very much swung it for his five for - (with 2 short ball wickets - 3 with swing) I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vFIEwKbIqAHere is day 2 of the 3rd test - you will see Stuart Broad (who is not a swing bowler) hooping it... Anderson is hooping it - Sharma is getting it to induck biggg time... 2.15 - Pandya bowls - even Gower commentates on the swing... 2;35 Gets Bairstow's wicket a swinging ball... 3:00 gentle outswinger for Pant to take the catch 3;10 Pandya gets broad with a lethal inswinger...
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Where is the swarmi army? Odd as this is Indian's only warm up.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Well I agree that they were certainly roads of pitches. But I think that they were fast and bouncy. Certainly more so than anything else in the world. Problem is - a fast pitch is easier to play than a slow pitch, so the only issue for the batsman to overcome is the bounce. This is where many an Asian, English and NZ batsman has struggled. I've found the WACA to be fairly high scoring until the cracks open up. All that WACA bounce typically took so many lbws and bowleds out of play - that the batsman once in, stayed in and made runs. Those cracks were nasty - I do not like watching variable bounce at 150km/h.I'd rather watch something more genial - like MMA fight to death or something :P I like Hobart, that is where Australia often produces something a bit more spicy and sporting.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging. Woakes is very much a swing bowler in England and always has been... "My main attribute was my ability to swing the ball and I didn't want to lose that. It's been over a period of about three years and it's good to see the rewards." https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/29209380Toby Roland Jones and Mark Wood are the seamers. Pandya very much swung it for his five for - (with 2 short balls) I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vFIEwKbIqAHere is day 2 of the 3rd test - you will see Stuart Broad (who is not a swing bowler) hooping it... Anderson is hooping it - Sharma is getting it to induck biggg time... 2.15 - Pandya bowls - even Gower commentates on the swing... 2;35 Gets Bairstow's wicket a swinging ball... 3:00 gentle outswinger for Pant to take the catch 3;10 Pandya gets broad with a lethal inswinger... Like I say. The Duke is very obliging. Pandya is still a seam bowler who aspires to be a swing bowler perhaps.. I have seen Aussies hooping the Duke as well and they are not swing bowlers. One that is and should be on the plane to England is Nick Winter. Evidently the Canberran leftie has played and honed his swinging skills in the Old Dart. He was unplayable for Tassie with Duke in hand last season. Took 25 pegs in three matches. 34 in five.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging. Woakes is very much a swing bowler in England and always has been... "My main attribute was my ability to swing the ball and I didn't want to lose that. It's been over a period of about three years and it's good to see the rewards." https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/29209380Toby Roland Jones and Mark Wood are the seamers. Pandya very much swung it for his five for - (with 2 short balls) I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vFIEwKbIqAHere is day 2 of the 3rd test - you will see Stuart Broad (who is not a swing bowler) hooping it... Anderson is hooping it - Sharma is getting it to induck biggg time... 2.15 - Pandya bowls - even Gower commentates on the swing... 2;35 Gets Bairstow's wicket a swinging ball... 3:00 gentle outswinger for Pant to take the catch 3;10 Pandya gets broad with a lethal inswinger... Like I say. The Duke is very obliging. Pandya is still a seam bowler who aspires to be a swing bowler perhaps.. I have seen Aussies hooping the Duke as well and they are not swing bowlers. One that is and should be on the plane to England is Nick Winter. Evidently the Canberran leftie has played and honed his swinging skills in the Old Dart. He was unplayable for Tassie with Duke in hand last season. Took 25 pegs in three matches. 34 in five. Oh I agree the Dukes is very obliging for those who can get it to go as against the Kookaburra. I wished NZC used it. Sometimes it just happens fortuitously (I suspect this often the case with Broad). But Pandya had it going often. So did Stokes. If you want to say Pandya isn't all that as a bowler - I'll agree. But he certainly got consistent swing in England. It is great entertainment watching the surprised expressions on bowler and batsman faces and the ball does all sorts swinging around in England. The funniest is when it swings one way past the batsman then changes swing direction and beats the wicket keeper...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Well I agree that they were certainly roads of pitches. But I think that they were fast and bouncy. Certainly more so than anything else in the world. Problem is - a fast pitch is easier to play than a slow pitch, so the only issue for the batsman to overcome is the bounce. This is where many an Asian, English and NZ batsman has struggled. I've found the WACA to be fairly high scoring until the cracks open up. All that WACA bounce typically took so many lbws and bowleds out of play - that the batsman once in, stayed in and made runs. Those cracks were nasty - I do not like watching variable bounce at 150km/h.I'd rather watch something more genial - like MMA fight to death or something :P I like Hobart, that is where Australia often produces something a bit more spicy and sporting. +xWhy are some state coaches not supporting NPS scholars in making the next step in their careers. David Grant is a promising bowler but he has played just 4 FC matches in two years. His numbers in FL have been more than respectable without being brilliant while he has always acquitted himself well for CAX1 sides. But the kid.. actually he is now 23..has to be given some confidence that he has the game to reach the next level and beyond. Being stuck in the lower tier he appears to have been forgotten by the SACA selectors. Luckily CA still rates him. This r/a seamer is good. I saw him give Hashim Amla a real workout before shattering his stumps with a pearler. He took a coupla more Saffer wickets that day if memory serves. He would have been 20 then. At that stage he should have been given a decent run in FC cricket to cement his position. Just heard Grant has been replaced in CAX1 squad by his SA team mate Luke Robins who castled Pujara with a ripper. Grants rotten luck continues.
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