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Indians are falling for the wide one. Kohli too.. what a blinder from Ussie.
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City Sam
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+x+x+xWhich coverage are you watching.. Seven or Fox? Always of the opinion your most technical batsmen should be at first drop. Kohli fits that bill yet does not bat there. Well contested topic, MD Crowe, Kohli, Root, Tendulkar best batsmen in their team but liked to be shielded at 4. Even Smithy more often likes to be at 4. Whereas Bradman, Ponting, KW, Dravid et al made the climb anyway. Sometimes they want to, sometimes it because there are more senior players locked into their spots (KW had Taylor, Ponting had the Waughs). Obviously, the further one slides down the middle order, the easier it is for batting. I am definitely for shielding your best batter, you don't want to risk them getting out early when the ball is doing a lot.
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On comes Cummins and away goes Kohli, I'll say it again Cummins should be opening the bowling.
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City Sam
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The Indian batsmen haven't done their research, they keep playing the drive when it just isn't on at this pitch early in the innings.
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MikeR
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+xThe Indian batsmen haven't done their research, they keep playing the drive when it just isn't on at this pitch early in the innings. Totally agree that's how Hazlewood gets most of his wickets, playing stupid shots at wide deliveries, probably because of T20 influence. The loss of Kholi is a big blow.
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Getting tired of visiting teams fulfilling their obligations by touring Australia, garbage so far by India. It's not like they're facing the bowling of Johnson, every dismissal could have left alone. Predicting 4-0 to Australia and not a single test getting past 4 days.
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+xGetting tired of visiting teams fulfilling their obligations by touring Australia, garbage so far by India. It's not like they're facing the bowling of Johnson, every dismissal could have left alone. Predicting 4-0 to Australia and not a single test getting past 4 days. Youve clearly never seen Australia bat in the last few years
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City Sam
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+xGetting tired of visiting teams fulfilling their obligations by touring Australia, garbage so far by India. It's not like they're facing the bowling of Johnson, every dismissal could have left alone. Predicting 4-0 to Australia and not a single test getting past 4 days. No way we win 4-0
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Three Indian batsmen dismissed on the drive. They haven’t adjusted to Australian lengths yet.
What do people think of the Channel 7 commentary? I think it’s been pretty good so far.
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Make that four wickets on the drive. Gee they haven’t learned
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Oh India... What have you done?
I turned it off after Rahul nicked off - kinda glad I did now :D
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After watching us struggle overseas in SA and Asia this year it is a contrast to see us on top in a game!
The Aussie public have no idea what we are like overseas, because only about 10percent of the population see us in action away from home!
We haven’t batted yet!
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Do you have pay TV, Mike?
We’ve been rubbish in SA and Asia when batting for most of 2018.
Good to see you back !
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+xOh India... What have you done? I turned it off after Rahul nicked off - kinda glad I did now :D Paddles I think I may follow suit. This is a non biased commentary of the last dismissal "OUT! Caught. Josh Hazlewood to Ajinkya Rahane. Out-swinging length ball, outside off stump on the front foot driving, outside edge to second slip, by Handscomb. Another catch behind the wicket, India aren't learning from their mistakes. It's wide from Hazlewood and swinging even wider, but Rahane can't resist a feeble waft when he should be leaving well alone. It's a poor stroke in the circumstances as the visitors sink further into the mire." easier wording.....Garbage delivery, garbage shot, garbage game. Simply this bowling attack got spanked recently overseas with poor returns for all, here they look like world beaters. This Indian side is showing nothing of their performance in England, they never wafted at wide deliveries over there. As for us not having batted yet, really if that's the saving grace "a poor batting performance by Australia"....then turn the television off, life's too short to watch garbage.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xLess then 1 hour before play starts and the excuses already appearing, too hot, not a green wicket, no M Marsh.... Really? That's test cricket! M Marsh doesn't warrant selection. A batting average of 26 is not a No 6 Batsman and he has had 30 tests to be given to prove himself, and with a bowling average of 42. If Finch and Harris fail that is the selectors fault. No Joe Burns. Joe was wrongly given out against NSW by a NSW umpire in Greg Davidson (no bias there) to a delivery that he missed by a mile (even the commentators said he was Not Out but no DRS at state level) from Josh Hazlewood who would have known it flicked his thigh guard, but the sportsman Josh is he carried on like someone shoved a hot poker up his you know what. He scored runs in the 2nd innings and followed it up with a man of the match performance against the best bowling attack in Australia in Siddle, Tremain, Bolland, Pattinson and Holland. Too much was placed on that poor biased cricket decision, No wonder Davidson has only umpired 10 games in the last 5 years and at 48 probably need to go to Spec Savers. Khawaja won't last long IMO he only made 41 and 18 in the same game as Burns but if you read the media he's Australia's saviour. S Marsh should do OK being in Australia Head and Handscomb have a lot of questions on them, but have only played a handful of tests between them compared to M Marsh Tim Paine has a lot on his plate Starc may bat well, and on his day is arguable the best bowler in the world, but unfortunately those days are too few and far between Cummins is probably the pick of the bowlers, but questions over his injury recovery as not a lot leading up to this test Lyons will do a lot of grunt work and will perform well Hazlewood has a lot of questions about him as a genuine wicket taker, but it is in Adelaide which is his best ground taking 18 wickets at 19.44 but they were all in D/N tests, so it will be interesting to see how he goes. There's heaps of reasons that don't involve conditions. Without Shaw I'm predicting India's top order will struggle leading to a lot of pressure on the middle order and IMO only Kholi has the fortitude to stand up against Australia on their home grounds. PS Good to see you here Paddles, just got back from your South Island, what's the deal with all the rain, Got flooded in at Fox Glacier. But truly an amazing countryside. I'm in the north - been raining a lot up here too. Hope you had a great time despite the rain. His first post back and he is already bagging Hazlewood . Paddles you reckon I have a hate on Kohli.. well Mike has a hate on Hazlewood. Mike Haze was the pick of the three quicks against your Bulls..pretty much bowled the Blues to the win in the second innings. Baggers I was just going to write that David Saker has done a bit of work with Hazlewood on improving his line to get batsmen playing, but then I watched his 3rd over... all way outside off and left to keeper, almost PMLOL at his 4th delivery, how wide was that!, but expected when the batsman scores some runs previously. Now he's put off with that 4, and an easy single to finish the over. I wonder how he will recover or will Paine bring on Cummins, who should be opening the bowling IMO. Improving his line? There would barely be a bowler in world cricket that makes the batsmen play more than Hazlewood. You only have to see his economy rate since debuting in the corresponding series four years ago. When a batsman allows it to go through to the keeper with no danger to his stumps because it is to wide, you don't score runs (thus low economy rate to bowler) but you also don't lose your wicket (thus Hazlewood's poor strike rate nearly 60 isn't it? Compared to Cummins 48, Pattinson's 39 (amazing) and Starc 50. No I would say pretty poor line no need to play afterall it is test cricket economy rate isn't important, score at 2 runs per over who cares, as long as you don't lose your wicket. Nuts. Count how many balls per over are left alone compared to having to play in a days play of say 20 overs . I am betting the batsman has had to play at least two thirds of deliveries.. Other blokes are taking the wickets from pressure he is building with his metronomic bowling.. not my words Glenn McGraths. So his strike rate looks moderate.. and it is. Indians are falling for the wide one. Kohli too.. what a blinder from Ussie.
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+xDo you have pay TV, Mike?We’ve been rubbish in SA and Asia when batting for most of 2018.Good to see you back ! Yeah, I do and watch nearly everything, including the Caribbean league. But I was watching 7 this morning, because Mark Waugh is on Fox and his commentary brings me to tears. I'll give 7 longer even though they bought Slats across at least I don't have to listen to the speech impediment high pitch voice of Michael Clarke any more. And I like Simon Katich though he should have punch Clarke harder, afterall if you're going to be dropped for your actions, might as make it worth it. Plus Ricky's there and of course Mel's there too.
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+xOn comes Cummins and away goes Kohli, I'll say it again Cummins should be opening the bowling. I rate Cummins.. but that was a shocker of a shot by Kohli.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLess then 1 hour before play starts and the excuses already appearing, too hot, not a green wicket, no M Marsh.... Really? That's test cricket! M Marsh doesn't warrant selection. A batting average of 26 is not a No 6 Batsman and he has had 30 tests to be given to prove himself, and with a bowling average of 42. If Finch and Harris fail that is the selectors fault. No Joe Burns. Joe was wrongly given out against NSW by a NSW umpire in Greg Davidson (no bias there) to a delivery that he missed by a mile (even the commentators said he was Not Out but no DRS at state level) from Josh Hazlewood who would have known it flicked his thigh guard, but the sportsman Josh is he carried on like someone shoved a hot poker up his you know what. He scored runs in the 2nd innings and followed it up with a man of the match performance against the best bowling attack in Australia in Siddle, Tremain, Bolland, Pattinson and Holland. Too much was placed on that poor biased cricket decision, No wonder Davidson has only umpired 10 games in the last 5 years and at 48 probably need to go to Spec Savers. Khawaja won't last long IMO he only made 41 and 18 in the same game as Burns but if you read the media he's Australia's saviour. S Marsh should do OK being in Australia Head and Handscomb have a lot of questions on them, but have only played a handful of tests between them compared to M Marsh Tim Paine has a lot on his plate Starc may bat well, and on his day is arguable the best bowler in the world, but unfortunately those days are too few and far between Cummins is probably the pick of the bowlers, but questions over his injury recovery as not a lot leading up to this test Lyons will do a lot of grunt work and will perform well Hazlewood has a lot of questions about him as a genuine wicket taker, but it is in Adelaide which is his best ground taking 18 wickets at 19.44 but they were all in D/N tests, so it will be interesting to see how he goes. There's heaps of reasons that don't involve conditions. Without Shaw I'm predicting India's top order will struggle leading to a lot of pressure on the middle order and IMO only Kholi has the fortitude to stand up against Australia on their home grounds. PS Good to see you here Paddles, just got back from your South Island, what's the deal with all the rain, Got flooded in at Fox Glacier. But truly an amazing countryside. I'm in the north - been raining a lot up here too. Hope you had a great time despite the rain. His first post back and he is already bagging Hazlewood . Paddles you reckon I have a hate on Kohli.. well Mike has a hate on Hazlewood. Mike Haze was the pick of the three quicks against your Bulls..pretty much bowled the Blues to the win in the second innings. Baggers I was just going to write that David Saker has done a bit of work with Hazlewood on improving his line to get batsmen playing, but then I watched his 3rd over... all way outside off and left to keeper, almost PMLOL at his 4th delivery, how wide was that!, but expected when the batsman scores some runs previously. Now he's put off with that 4, and an easy single to finish the over. I wonder how he will recover or will Paine bring on Cummins, who should be opening the bowling IMO. Improving his line? There would barely be a bowler in world cricket that makes the batsmen play more than Hazlewood. You only have to see his economy rate since debuting in the corresponding series four years ago. When a batsman allows it to go through to the keeper with no danger to his stumps because it is to wide, you don't score runs (thus low economy rate to bowler) but you also don't lose your wicket (thus Hazlewood's poor strike rate nearly 60 isn't it? Compared to Cummins 48, Pattinson's 39 (amazing) and Starc 50. No I would say pretty poor line no need to play afterall it is test cricket economy rate isn't important, score at 2 runs per over who cares, as long as you don't lose your wicket. Nuts. Hazlewood makes you play at the ball to stop it from taking your wicket.. Count how many balls per over are left alone compared to having to play. Other blokes are taking the wickets from pressure he is building with his metronomic bowling.. not my words Glenn McGraths. So his strike rate looks moderate.. and it is. Indians are falling for the wide one. Kohli too.. what a blinder from Ussie. Just remember McGrath's from NSW as if he would have anything to say against a fellow NSWman. At least your consistent Baggers with the old his pressure leads to wickets at the other end. Just like he did in South Africa, Bangladesh, India, South Africa in Australia, Sri Lanka.....Hang on a sec we didn't take wickets there, Josh obviously wasn't doing his job well enough.
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+x+xOh India... What have you done? I turned it off after Rahul nicked off - kinda glad I did now :D Paddles I think I may follow suit. This is a non biased commentary of the last dismissal "OUT! Caught. Josh Hazlewood to Ajinkya Rahane. Out-swinging length ball, outside off stump on the front foot driving, outside edge to second slip, by Handscomb. Another catch behind the wicket, India aren't learning from their mistakes. It's wide from Hazlewood and swinging even wider, but Rahane can't resist a feeble waft when he should be leaving well alone. It's a poor stroke in the circumstances as the visitors sink further into the mire." easier wording.....Garbage delivery, garbage shot, garbage game. Simply this bowling attack got spanked recently overseas with poor returns for all, here they look like world beaters. This Indian side is showing nothing of their performance in England, they never wafted at wide deliveries over there. As for us not having batted yet, really if that's the saving grace "a poor batting performance by Australia"....then turn the television off, life's too short to watch garbage. Seeya.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLess then 1 hour before play starts and the excuses already appearing, too hot, not a green wicket, no M Marsh.... Really? That's test cricket! M Marsh doesn't warrant selection. A batting average of 26 is not a No 6 Batsman and he has had 30 tests to be given to prove himself, and with a bowling average of 42. If Finch and Harris fail that is the selectors fault. No Joe Burns. Joe was wrongly given out against NSW by a NSW umpire in Greg Davidson (no bias there) to a delivery that he missed by a mile (even the commentators said he was Not Out but no DRS at state level) from Josh Hazlewood who would have known it flicked his thigh guard, but the sportsman Josh is he carried on like someone shoved a hot poker up his you know what. He scored runs in the 2nd innings and followed it up with a man of the match performance against the best bowling attack in Australia in Siddle, Tremain, Bolland, Pattinson and Holland. Too much was placed on that poor biased cricket decision, No wonder Davidson has only umpired 10 games in the last 5 years and at 48 probably need to go to Spec Savers. Khawaja won't last long IMO he only made 41 and 18 in the same game as Burns but if you read the media he's Australia's saviour. S Marsh should do OK being in Australia Head and Handscomb have a lot of questions on them, but have only played a handful of tests between them compared to M Marsh Tim Paine has a lot on his plate Starc may bat well, and on his day is arguable the best bowler in the world, but unfortunately those days are too few and far between Cummins is probably the pick of the bowlers, but questions over his injury recovery as not a lot leading up to this test Lyons will do a lot of grunt work and will perform well Hazlewood has a lot of questions about him as a genuine wicket taker, but it is in Adelaide which is his best ground taking 18 wickets at 19.44 but they were all in D/N tests, so it will be interesting to see how he goes. There's heaps of reasons that don't involve conditions. Without Shaw I'm predicting India's top order will struggle leading to a lot of pressure on the middle order and IMO only Kholi has the fortitude to stand up against Australia on their home grounds. PS Good to see you here Paddles, just got back from your South Island, what's the deal with all the rain, Got flooded in at Fox Glacier. But truly an amazing countryside. I'm in the north - been raining a lot up here too. Hope you had a great time despite the rain. His first post back and he is already bagging Hazlewood . Paddles you reckon I have a hate on Kohli.. well Mike has a hate on Hazlewood. Mike Haze was the pick of the three quicks against your Bulls..pretty much bowled the Blues to the win in the second innings. Baggers I was just going to write that David Saker has done a bit of work with Hazlewood on improving his line to get batsmen playing, but then I watched his 3rd over... all way outside off and left to keeper, almost PMLOL at his 4th delivery, how wide was that!, but expected when the batsman scores some runs previously. Now he's put off with that 4, and an easy single to finish the over. I wonder how he will recover or will Paine bring on Cummins, who should be opening the bowling IMO. Improving his line? There would barely be a bowler in world cricket that makes the batsmen play more than Hazlewood. You only have to see his economy rate since debuting in the corresponding series four years ago. When a batsman allows it to go through to the keeper with no danger to his stumps because it is to wide, you don't score runs (thus low economy rate to bowler) but you also don't lose your wicket (thus Hazlewood's poor strike rate nearly 60 isn't it? Compared to Cummins 48, Pattinson's 39 (amazing) and Starc 50. No I would say pretty poor line no need to play afterall it is test cricket economy rate isn't important, score at 2 runs per over who cares, as long as you don't lose your wicket. Nuts. Hazlewood makes you play at the ball to stop it from taking your wicket.. Count how many balls per over are left alone compared to having to play. Other blokes are taking the wickets from pressure he is building with his metronomic bowling.. not my words Glenn McGraths. So his strike rate looks moderate.. and it is. Indians are falling for the wide one. Kohli too.. what a blinder from Ussie. Just remember McGrath's from NSW as if he would have anything to say against a fellow NSWman. At least your consistent Baggers with the old his pressure leads to wickets at the other end. Just like he did in South Africa, Bangladesh, India, South Africa in Australia, Sri Lanka.....Hang on a sec we didn't take wickets there, Josh obviously wasn't doing his job well enough. You are just so parochially anti NSW that it is pointless debating with you any more Mike. It is an almost childlike attitude.
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+xThree Indian batsmen dismissed on the drive. They haven’t adjusted to Australian lengths yet. What do people think of the Channel 7 commentary? I think it’s been pretty good so far. I prefer the Fox commentary team. Pity they did not snare Ricky tho.. so I will be switching back and forth. I am pleased James Brayshaw is back behind a mic. I like his wit.
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Short spells for our quicks by Timmy in this sapping heat.
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Sharma has hit some great shots
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And they gift us a wicket
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Was coming here to say Sharmas taking the game away bit by bit. Harris catches him over the boundary so Sharma goes the same shot but edges it and Harris completes the catch. Horrible match awareness there. Take a nice single after the six.
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+xWas coming here to say Sharmas taking the game away bit by bit. Harris catches him over the boundary so Sharma goes the same shot but edges it and Harris completes the catch. Horrible match awareness there. Take a nice single after the six. They continue to throw away their wickets. Are they still in limited overs mode. Is the pressure of never having won in OZ driving these rash shots? Meanwhile Pujara putters along watching the carnage from the other end.
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At least some of the drives you could give some credit to the bowlers for getting the batsman driving early in the day. Sharmas was just a horrific way to through away a wicket when he was looking good. For test cricket after hitting the six the pressures off and you either tap the next one for a single or are happy to block the over out.
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+x+xWas coming here to say Sharmas taking the game away bit by bit. Harris catches him over the boundary so Sharma goes the same shot but edges it and Harris completes the catch. Horrible match awareness there. Take a nice single after the six. They continue to throw away their wickets. Are they still in limited overs mode. Is the pressure of never having won in OZ driving these rash shots? Meanwhile Pujara putters along watching the carnage from the other end. Sharma is the biggest culprit for it, he is such a good batter but mentally he is woeful at test level. Pant is another one, just likes to bat like its an ODI.
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I hate watching Pant bat, plays like a shit tail ender but manages to get runs edging it everywhere.
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