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Ok can Renshaw smack a ton in this second innings and put his name forward for the Third Test.
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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 2:43 PM
Ok can Renshaw smack a ton in this second innings and put his name forward for the Third Test.

Or can Burns do the same. Perhaps they will both score double tons to win the match by 10 wickets
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Baggers what has happened to Nick Winter. Only 9 wickets (just took one) this year @60. Second year Blues or did massively over-rate him
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Henriques perishes for a dreaded 99.
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MikeR - 9 Dec 2018 3:41 PM
Baggers what has happened to Nick Winter. Only 9 wickets (just took one) this year @60. Second year Blues or did massively over-rate him

He evidently does not swing the Kooka like he does the Duke. Who does. His 34 @ 19 from just 5 matches was all with the Duke. I have watched him a fair bit this season and he is not seaming the Kooka either. Compare his Kooka returns with the Duke post BBL.
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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 3:47 PM
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He evidently does not swing the Kooka like he does the Duke. Who does. His 34 @ 19 from just 5 matches was all with the Duke. I have watched him a fair bit this season and he is not seaming the Kooka either. Compare his Kooka returns with the Duke post BBL.

Obviously not a problem for Gabe Bell though passing 50 wickets in his 12th game at an average of 20. He's taken 21 @21 this year. Kid has potential. 

Mark Steketee has impressed me this year coming along well 25 at 21
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I am wondering why Worrall only bowled 10 overs for the Redbacks when the others bowled three times that? 
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Burns with a 50. Hopefully he converts it

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RedKat - 9 Dec 2018 5:26 PM
Burns with a 50. Hopefully he converts it

Burns started off quite slowly but has accelerated now he is in and surely must come in for the second test.
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Burns out for 74.
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Test_Fan - 9 Dec 2018 5:36 PM
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Burns started off quite slowly but has accelerated now he is in and surely must come in for the second test.

The third test. CA has said these blokes have been picked for two tests.
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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 5:54 PM
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The third test. CA has said these blokes have been picked for two tests.

That is bullshit. 
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Burns out for 74. Missed chance that. 

Stupidity to lock in a team for two tests. Surely theres nothing stopping them calling in players from outside the squad?

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Test_Fan - 9 Dec 2018 5:36 PM
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Burns started off quite slowly but has accelerated now he is in and surely must come in for the second test.

Not sure how you can have him in ahead of two blokes Cooper and Hughes who have two tons this season following several productive seasons. when Joe has not converted in six matches. Shield form should be rewarded. Nick Larkin is another with two tons.
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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 6:09 PM
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Not sure how you can have in ahead of two blokes Cooper and Hughes who have two tons this season to go with some biggish scores when Joe has none.

Cooper is not good enough and Hughes has not done enough over the long term.

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Test_Fan - 9 Dec 2018 5:56 PM
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That is bullshit. 

No. CA said that when announcing the squad.  That has been policy for a long time. They have diverted  from this policy on several occasions over the years that I can recall.. James Faulkner was only given one Test.. took five wickets on debut.. then sayonara. Same with quick Matthew Nicholson and keeper Phil Emerry. There were a handful of others. Joe Mennie and Callum Ferguson were the latest so they know how the others must have felt.. CA used a push for youth as the reason. Boy getting dumped after one Test must have cut deep to the bone for these proud cricketers. 



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Not sure how you can have him in ahead of two blokes Cooper and Hughes who have two tons this season following several productive seasons. when Joe has not converted in six matches. Shield form should be rewarded. Nick Larkin is another with two tons.

Larkins FC isnt even at 30. What a horrid selection that would be. Burns has been consistent average I think 55 last season and 40+ the season before. We've got to stop saying "ooo look he got a hundred select him" and look at the players who consistently top the run charts over a few seasons. Burns and Patterson both average 40+ at FC and should be front of the line with at least one playing the next test. 

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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 2:43 PM
Ok can Renshaw smack a ton in this second innings and put his name forward for the Third Test.

I've seen him bat time a lot in Asian Test cricket.

He may be out of form ATM, but I think he has the class to be a long term fixture, whilst almost no current batter from 1-6 in the current Aussie Test team has that class.

Outside Smith, and possibly Warner, Renshaw has been our best batter overseas - which most people haven't seen seen because they don't have pay TV.

We really need Renshaw firing at this point in time. He has  batted time under immense pressure in Asia. Other wickets have often fallen around him, while he bats and stays there. He has a good defence.
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I am starting to think Australia's best possible top 6 is Warner, Renshaw, Khawaja, Smith, Burns, Patterson.



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The only thing about Hughes I don't like is that the majority of his runs he scores is confined to Sydney or Canberra. Struggles a lot away from home grounds, In Perth he scored 1 and 6. Melbourne 8 and 14 Adelaide 60 and 18 (That's only an 18 av from those 6 innings) but his average this year is currently 48 and climbing.
Last year his big scores away from home were at No 6 for NSW but when he opened for NSW his scores were 2, 9, 49, 25, 30, 59, (av 29) compared to his overall average of 41.  IMO I wonder whether Hughes may be more suited to No 6 and NSW may be doing him a dis-service by making him open.

But with that same argument is one of the reasons I'm starting to come around to Patterson.
Last year Patterson away from home scored 14, 0, 12, 16, 22, 17, 24, 16, 43 and 53 (217 av 21.7), but overall he scored 672 runs at 37. That is a big discrepancy and only 1 test a year is played in Sydney.
But this year Patterson is scoring away from home with the century in Perth being his best to date, so though I don't think Patterson is ready just yet, he has definitely improved and maybe next year if this form continues he is worthy of being potentially selected.

I re-posted this because though I like your side Test Fan, especially Burns in at 5/6, I personally would give Harris more of a shot, I thought he played OK for his first test, a few problems that he should work out with time.

Patterson needs to prove himself more at shield level especially away from home as does Hughes because that would be suggestive that they can adapt to different conditions, which Patterson has shown this year but it has only been 3 games away from home. Travis head now in his 3rd test has scored 205 runs currently at a 41 average, you have to keep him in the side, and IMO you wouldn't take a gamble with Patterson especially with a possible problem in his play when you take him away from the comfort of his Sydney pitches.

Last year they were discussing Hughes, maybe try him now instead of Finch, because personally if we could get 2 good consistent openers performing then the big positive would be we would never have to see that embarrassment to Australia that is Warner, and in all honesty, he's probably on his end of career downward spiral (by the time the Ashes come around he'll be pushing 33).
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baggygreenmania - 9 Dec 2018 6:09 PM
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Not sure how you can have him in ahead of two blokes Cooper and Hughes who have two tons this season following several productive seasons. when Joe has not converted in six matches. Shield form should be rewarded. Nick Larkin is another with two tons.

You are kidding Baggers you do realise that Burns has scored 472 runs @47 and is currently ahead of Hughes even with Hughes 2 tons and just behind both Cooper and Larkin both of those have 2 tons, that shows how poor their other innings must have been.

Last year Burns averaged 55, Hughes averaged 41, Cooper av 26 and Larkin who knows what he averaged did he even make double figures

That's the problem with the current side they're picking players based on one off performances.
To even come close to matching Burns in terms of centuries you have to combine those three players stats, I'll do it for you
Burns 178 innings 15 centuries 38 50's
Cooper/Hughes/Larkin 276 innings 18 centuries 45 50's (and 6 of those 100's came just recently WTF how bad are those 3)

And Burns is the 2nd youngest of the 4 with Larkin being younger by 100 days. Just exactly what have have those 3 been doing with their time to only play 276 innings combined because Burns has been playing Cricket at a FC level.

But Baggers I know you like to promote your NSW born players, but you do realise all you're doing is suggesting it takes 3 NSWmen to match a Qlder, which maybe true in all walks of life, but I'm not suggesting that, YOU ARE!!

I may be wrong but I do believe that when Cooper became aligned with the Netherlands, he becomes ineligible for selection for Australia. It has been 2 years now since he last played for them so I don't know if he is currently eligible for selection for Australia, but with the WC coming up he may be playing for them again.
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I've seen him bat time a lot in Asian Test cricket.

He may be out of form ATM, but I think he has the class to be a long term fixture, whilst almost no current batter from 1-6 in the current Aussie Test team has that class.

Outside Smith, and possibly Warner, Renshaw has been our best batter overseas - which most people haven't seen seen because they don't have pay TV.

We really need Renshaw firing at this point in time. He has  batted time under immense pressure in Asia. Other wickets have often fallen around him, while he bats and stays there. He has a good defence.

Totally agree DC. He is my long term opener too. I want him back for the third test.. form or not. Who is his long term partner tho. There is no one banging down the door in Shield cricket. Harris has a reputation of falling away in the second half of the season after strong starts. 
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MikeR - 10 Dec 2018 7:27 AM
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You are kidding Baggers you do realise that Burns has scored 472 runs @47 and is currently ahead of Hughes even with Hughes 2 tons and just behind both Cooper and Larkin both of those have 2 tons, that shows how poor their other innings must have been.

Last year Burns averaged 55, Hughes averaged 41, Cooper av 26 and Larkin who knows what he averaged did he even make double figures

That's the problem with the current side they're picking players based on one off performances.
To even come close to matching Burns in terms of centuries you have to combine those three players stats, I'll do it for you
Burns 178 innings 15 centuries 38 50's
Cooper/Hughes/Larkin 276 innings 18 centuries 45 50's (and 6 of those 100's came just recently WTF how bad are those 3)

And Burns is the 2nd youngest of the 4 with Larkin being younger by 100 days. Just exactly what have have those 3 been doing with their time to only play 276 innings combined because Burns has been playing Cricket at a FC level.

But Baggers I know you like to promote your NSW born players, but you do realise all you're doing is suggesting it takes 3 NSWmen to match a Qlder, which maybe true in all walks of life, but I'm not suggesting that, YOU ARE!!

I may be wrong but I do believe that when Cooper became aligned with the Netherlands, he becomes ineligible for selection for Australia. It has been 2 years now since he last played for them so I don't know if he is currently eligible for selection for Australia, but with the WC coming up he may be playing for them again.

Dunno about the eligibility rules either. If Cooper has finally found consistency he will be a great asset to Australian cricket for at least a few years. I never pushed Larkin for the test side.. merely said he has scored two tons. So is showing some overdue form. Dan Hughes on the other hand has a similar recent FC history as Joe Burns. So has to be considered. I am not saying Joe does not deserve a recall. I am all for it if he has stopped flashing at balls he should be leaving... and he is not the only one that does that. There are a couple in the present squad. Handscomb for one.. his dismissal to me looked like a miss timed run down to third man limited overs shot. Harris swished at a ball ala limited overs style too. Both these mode of dismissals are unforgivable at this level. Another thing that may be holding CA back from giving Joe a return is his poor conversion rate this year. 12 innings not one century. His career rate is not much better than  Patterson's... and I dont hear you calling for him to be in the Third Test.
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baggygreenmania - 10 Dec 2018 9:55 AM
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Dunno about the eligibility rules either. If Cooper has finally found consistency he will be a great asset to Australian cricket for at least a few years. I never pushed Larkin for the test side.. merely said he has scored two tons. So is showing some overdue form. Dan Hughes on the other hand has a similar recent FC history as Joe Burns. So has to be considered. I am not saying Joe does not deserve a recall. I am all for it if he stopped flashing at wide balls. Leave em alone man. Wait for one in your zone. Joe is not the only one to  show impatience. Handscomb's dismissal a miss timed run down to third man smacked of limited overs.. Harris' wild swish was also a white ball shot.  Both these mode of dismissals are unforgivable at this level.

Is Marnus Labuchagne also picking up some overdue runs. Cant help thinking that his quickish leggies may have been handy here. tho Lyon did nail it yesterday to set up a win that we appear incapable of executing.
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No doubt Renshaw is a long term opener. 

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I re-posted this because though I like your side Test Fan, especially Burns in at 5/6, I personally would give Harris more of a shot, I thought he played OK for his first test, a few problems that he should work out with time.

Patterson needs to prove himself more at shield level especially away from home as does Hughes because that would be suggestive that they can adapt to different conditions, which Patterson has shown this year but it has only been 3 games away from home. Travis head now in his 3rd test has scored 205 runs currently at a 41 average, you have to keep him in the side, and IMO you wouldn't take a gamble with Patterson especially with a possible problem in his play when you take him away from the comfort of his Sydney pitches.

Last year they were discussing Hughes, maybe try him now instead of Finch, because personally if we could get 2 good consistent openers performing then the big positive would be we would never have to see that embarrassment to Australia that is Warner, and in all honesty, he's probably on his end of career downward spiral (by the time the Ashes come around he'll be pushing 33).

In comparison how does Joe go away from home. SCG for instance?
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baggygreenmania - 10 Dec 2018 12:41 PM
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In comparison how does Joe go away from home. SCG for instance?

Ok question. The players have been penciled in only for the two tests. Marsh made a decent score in this game..say he fails in the next.. do we keep him? You know my answer.
Agree Head has cemented his spot for the Third Test.  Harris should be given all 6 Tests of the summer as the debutant. Khawaja will stay as will Paine. Finch will need something special to remain.  First of all get him away from opening. Handscomb must deliver otherwise he is for the chop too.
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Hilton Cartwright has proven an abject failure at #3. What possessed WA Cricket or the skipper to bat him where your best techical batsmen should occupy.. A coupla years ago when he threatened to make the Test side and or ODI side he was scoring masses of runs from #4 or #5. So please put him back there.
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baggygreenmania - 10 Dec 2018 12:41 PM
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In comparison how does Joe go away from home. SCG for instance?

What do you want Baggers? His international level SCG play 3 innings 150 runs @50 (INTERNATIONAL not Domestic)
or are you talking about dodgy decisions that undermined his potential inclusion to this current test and you know it was as dodgy as you can get
or last year at Wollongong where he scored 121 runs in the game compared to Patterson who scored 74
or 2016/17 game when Joe scored 196 runs for the game and Patterson 88 at the SCG
didn't play 2015/16 in the Australian side
so last 9 FC innings playing either international or against NSW (including dodgy call game) averages 65 do you have a problem with that? I certainly don't. How easy is it to score runs at the SCG. Makes you think doesn't it.

By Comparison since you started this game lets have a look at Patterson say against SA away from home 0, 7, 14, 0, 17, 12 (total 50 runs @8.3) Outstanding
I'll be generous and look at WA since he just scored a century there. 24, 16, 8, 39, (av was 21) then scored  107, 43 lifting his av to 40 so yes that is moving in the right direction
But in all honesty he has played OK against the Vics scoring 61, 43, 53, 63 and 53 a lot of good starts but where are the 100's
I do remember at the Gabba a few years ago he did score a 111, the reason I remember that game is Joe Burns MURDERED Starc and Hazlewood scoring 160 for the game.

Sorry Baggers I think you lost, do you want to play again????

 
 
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7 Years Ago by MikeR
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