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What’s wrong with these bloody Aussie batsmen ffs???
Continually giving their wicket cheaply
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Marki
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+xYou're not going to slog your way to 300 to win in a Test Match. Don't try and chase it, don't try and block it, just play. If by some miracle you're in a position to go harder late on Day 5, then get there first. If by the same miracle you're in a position to hold out late on Day 5, then get there first. Until then, just play. That's what I mean Zef. These guys play T20 well enough that they feel constrained playing a slow game. They hesitate to put bad balls away, and then blame away in frustration. Its not poor concentration.... its poor mental preparation. They should just play normal cricket without the fear of being dropped for the next game or criticized for their strokeplay. The fact they are chasing 320 odd means they are up against it as it is. I dont believe this team has any century makers in the lower middle order to save a Test. We need Smith back badly.
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Zef
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We need batsman in this Test team who are comfortable facing 200 balls for 50 odd and when it turns their way can get the next 50 in 100 balls odd and not feel compelled to have to do either.
There's at least one batsman in Aus in who can do either without pre-meditation, in other words he plays it as it is and damn what anyone else thinks about it , and that's Matthew Renshaw.
I don't give a rats arse about his form, all I care about is his class. I'd let him fail in Test Cricket as long as it takes for him to find his place, cause he's made for Test Cricket and he will find his place.
And we need that mind-set.
The handling of his career has been the biggest failure of Aussie Selectors I've seen in decades.
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Marki
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+xWe need batsman in this Test team who are comfortable facing 200 balls for 50 odd and when it turns their way can get the next 50 in 100 balls odd and not feel compelled to have to do either. There's at least one batsman in Aus in who can do either without pre-meditation, in other words he plays it as it is and damn what anyone else thinks about it , and that's Matthew Renshaw. I don't give a rats arse about his form, all I care about is his class. I'd let him fail in Test Cricket as long as it takes for him to find his place, cause he's made for Test Cricket and he will find his place. And we need that mind-set. The handling of his career has been the biggest failure of Aussie Selectors I've seen in decades. I certainly agree regardibg Renshaw, although 50 off 200 is probably a strike rate that is difficult to watch - no matter who the player. Once in a while it's ok. In Test cricket you should still be aiming for a strike rate of 35-70. Guys like Lara and Tendulkar didnt do much running between wickets, but they were onto any loose deliveries and dispatched them gracefully to the boundary. One of those every two overs and you easily maintain a good strike rate without doing any running or outrageous shots. But we need players with that skill level. Otherwise, just push the singles and rotate the strike. I've seen too many maidens in the test match.
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hounddog
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+xWhat’s wrong with these bloody Aussie batsmen ffs???Continually giving their wicket cheaply Honestly they probably are just not good enough. Zef is half rjght 3 out of 4 batsmen got themselves out with impatience and poor strategy. Simply hanging around blocking isn't the way to go either. But play your natural game, work the singles and put the bad ball away. When a team or a player are not confident, it shows.
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BloodyNora
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I watched most of the 1991 semi-final last night on FoxSports between Wests & Canterbury. The game has sure changed a lot since then... I lost count of how many Canterbury players were over at Wests at the time, Britt, Farah, Gillespie, Langmack, Thomas etc.
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+xI watched most of the 1991 semi-final last night on FoxSports between Wests & Canterbury. The game has sure changed a lot since then... I lost count of how many Canterbury players were over at Wests at the time, Britt, Farah, Gillespie, Langmack, Thomas etc. Edit: Back then it was before Britt joined Canterbury. Wests also had Dymock at the time & Warren Ryan was coach. Trevor Cogger played for them then too. It was the last Canterbury match for Jonathon Davies...wouldn't have been if they didn't keep giving the ball back to wests.
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Have we signed Cameron Smith to the clubs Dishwasher position yet?
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Stevie Wonder was given a cheese grater last Christmas...he thought it was the most violent novel he had ever read.
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We probably deserved to lose the test, the top 6 batsmen just are not doing the job. The Goat is on fire, a much improved player.
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+xWe probably deserved to lose the test, the top 6 batsmen just are not doing the job. The Goat is on fire, a much improved player. That's true. Bottom 5 scored 148 & the top 6 only managed 133 including Marsh getting a rare test score. The tailenders got them so close though, it was cruel they didn't quite hang on.
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dman2018
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Bloody batsmen...
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What( if anything) would you change in the test side? I would be inclined to keep the same team, move Khawaja or Marsh to opener and drop Finch to 4/5. Finch was the player who performed worst, but it was his first test in Australia. For Perth we need to solid opening batsmen who will lay a platform. If we bat well enough we are a chance, India performed well but not brilliantly, again Kohli looms as the danger. India didn't perform that well in this test, there bowlers might be tired, this test was a golden opportunity missed for us. Perth might not suit most of their bats with pace and bounce,
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hounddog
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Just pick 10 bowlers and a good keeper. 8 quicks of course for Perth :)
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+xJust pick 10 bowlers and a good keeper. 8 quicks of course for Perth :) Just include Lloyd Pope for any of the batsmen. At least he'll match them for runs & help out with the bowling. The hair will intimidate the Indians as well. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lloyd+pope&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT4dv3zJTfAhVIX30KHVJ5CLgQ_AUIDigB&biw=1024&bih=502
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Exactly right BN. Our test record when playing bowlers with great hair is impeccable. Think DK Lillie, Tommo and Warnie, not that Tommo's hair style has aged well... And tell our quicks to get the chest hair, bling, and headband out, I am only only one that has seen DK Lillie in action? If that doesn't work, start hitting the opposition with aluminium bats.
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haha, you haven't seen Tommo's back hair. I've scared myself at the thought of him running in backwards to bowl with that growth subjected to the wind...
Jokes aside, I'm not sure what the selectors can do about any changes. The top order guys all have the talent, but seemingly not the focus. The young opener made a couple of good starts so deserves another chance. Hopefully he'll keep improving. The more experienced ones just have to concentrate better instead of throwing their wickets away lashing at deliveries they should leave alone.
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I'm disinclined to make any changes cos I'm sick to death of the constant swapping... many of the batsmen re paralysed with fear of losing their spot... not playing their natural game, getting bogged down and losing their wicket to frustration... Usman must stay at 3 or 4 as he is the best available in the country and deserves a chance with the shine off the ball that said though... we need a player who can just bat time... Renno must be picked and stuck with... finch out of the side, at best he should be a number 6 in test cricket... Our bloody selectors will probably drop Lyon in a horses for courses selection and play the other marsh... Or they'll drop hanno for marsh... I think we'd be in a better place if the selectors showed the same faith in hanmonand renno as they did in marshs... Awful shot by the captain today...
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These a young bloke named Lichaa that might have a say in that... he can only stack the dishes on the left hand side of the sink though... Cmon lichaa make me look stupiid this year!!! God know how easy villi makes looking stupid look...
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+xThese a young bloke named Lichaa that might have a say in that... he can only stack the dishes on the left hand side of the sink though...Cmon lichaa make me look stupiid this year!!! God know how easy villi makes looking stupid look... At last an easy target for Lichaa :)
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+x+xThese a young bloke named Lichaa that might have a say in that... he can only stack the dishes on the left hand side of the sink though...Cmon lichaa make me look stupiid this year!!! God know how easy villi makes looking stupid look... At last an easy target for Lichaa :) Well uncle ray putting a red target on the jersey didn't work...
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They made their selections for the 2nd Test when they selected the the 1st, plus the next one's 4 days away. The squad will be the same, the 11 may change if they want an allrounder and that's very likely in which case Marsh M will come in, a batsman to drop out.
First thought is how can that be when we haven't got the batsman now and it's a fair question of how it could be. But as I heard some talking head say there's 4 Tests in 24 daysish so they want to get some load off the bowlers.
A rock and a hard place.
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Villi
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Here are few of the changes i’d Make to the Test Team:-
L Coote in for S Marsh
T Carney in for Finch
Dman in for Justin Langer
Mr Dman (Holland) in for Pat Howard
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+xThese a young bloke named Lichaa that might have a say in that... he can only stack the dishes on the left hand side of the sink though...Cmon lichaa make me look stupiid this year!!! God know how easy villi makes looking stupid look... Dribbling..with your d8ck hanging out hitting one note on a xylophone outside Miranda Station...I'll let the bloke who is there now know he will have company.
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+x+xThese a young bloke named Lichaa that might have a say in that... he can only stack the dishes on the left hand side of the sink though...Cmon lichaa make me look stupiid this year!!! God know how easy villi makes looking stupid look... Dribbling..with your d8ck hanging out hitting one note on a xylophone outside Miranda Station...I'll let the bloke who is there now know he will have company. A low D...
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+xThey made their selections for the 2nd Test when they selected the the 1st, plus the next one's 4 days away. The squad will be the same, the 11 may change if they want an allrounder and that's very likely in which case Marsh M will come in, a batsman to drop out. First thought is how can that be when we haven't got the batsman now and it's a fair question of how it could be. But as I heard some talking head say there's 4 Tests in 24 daysish so they want to get some load off the bowlers. A rock and a hard place. Sadly we have no 'all rounder' in the squad... M Marsh can't bat at test level and his bowling is completely ineffective... Better off bringing in pattinson, he'd probably make more runs than marsh and definitely be a threat with the ball... Even stoinis is a better option for mine at this stage which says more about marsh than it does stoinis...
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+x+xThey made their selections for the 2nd Test when they selected the the 1st, plus the next one's 4 days away. The squad will be the same, the 11 may change if they want an allrounder and that's very likely in which case Marsh M will come in, a batsman to drop out. First thought is how can that be when we haven't got the batsman now and it's a fair question of how it could be. But as I heard some talking head say there's 4 Tests in 24 daysish so they want to get some load off the bowlers. A rock and a hard place. Sadly we have no 'all rounder' in the squad... M Marsh can't bat at test level and his bowling is completely ineffective... Better off bringing in pattinson, he'd probably make more runs than marsh and definitely be a threat with the ball... Even stoinis is a better option for mine at this stage which says more about marsh than it does stoinis... Actually if we want another bowling option we should simply shuffle Paine, Cummins, and Lyon up to 6,7,8 and play a proper bowler - Pope would be my pick. If 3 quick can;t get the job done, 4 usually doesn't, unless all 4 are very good. 3 quicks off spinner + leg spinner is the ideal attack IMO, you rarely see it s it can leave the batting short. On M Marsh, I agree his blowing offers nothing, in fact Head is probably a better option with the ball, Stonis is OK, but hasn't kicked on. If we want an all rounder improve the batting of Cummins or Lyon, they are showing something with both bat and ball, or are at least in form. Sometimes in WA there is a role for a specialist into the wind swing bowler like Alderman, again M. Marsh isn't that bloke. If you have 2 spinners you can rotate them bowling into the wind, and rotate 3 quicks at the other end. I know we don't have the option of making radical changes, so go with the same side and let Head bowl a bit more. If Perth is fast and bouncy, we will not need lots of bowlers, or if we need lots of bowlers we are losing anyway.
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+x+x+xThey made their selections for the 2nd Test when they selected the the 1st, plus the next one's 4 days away. The squad will be the same, the 11 may change if they want an allrounder and that's very likely in which case Marsh M will come in, a batsman to drop out. First thought is how can that be when we haven't got the batsman now and it's a fair question of how it could be. But as I heard some talking head say there's 4 Tests in 24 daysish so they want to get some load off the bowlers. A rock and a hard place. Sadly we have no 'all rounder' in the squad... M Marsh can't bat at test level and his bowling is completely ineffective... Better off bringing in pattinson, he'd probably make more runs than marsh and definitely be a threat with the ball... Even stoinis is a better option for mine at this stage which says more about marsh than it does stoinis... Actually if we want another bowling option we should simply shuffle Paine, Cummins, and Lyon up to 6,7,8 and play a proper bowler - Pope would be my pick. If 3 quick can;t get the job done, 4 usually doesn't, unless all 4 are very good. 3 quicks off spinner + leg spinner is the ideal attack IMO, you rarely see it s it can leave the batting short. On M Marsh, I agree his blowing offers nothing, in fact Head is probably a better option with the ball, Stonis is OK, but hasn't kicked on. If we want an all rounder improve the batting of Cummins or Lyon, they are showing something with both bat and ball, or are at least in form. Sometimes in WA there is a role for a specialist into the wind swing bowler like Alderman, again M. Marsh isn't that bloke. If you have 2 spinners you can rotate them bowling into the wind, and rotate 3 quicks at the other end. I know we don't have the option of making radical changes, so go with the same side and let Head bowl a bit more. If Perth is fast and bouncy, we will not need lots of bowlers, or if we need lots of bowlers we are losing anyway. Agree, there are more than enough runs in the tail to argue against bringing in part time anything... Bowling isn't our problem; anyone, and I mean anyone (even villi) is a better option than m marsh at this stage... If the selectors bring him in under the premise his bowling will be handy then they should be sacked too...
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+x+x+xThey made their selections for the 2nd Test when they selected the the 1st, plus the next one's 4 days away. The squad will be the same, the 11 may change if they want an allrounder and that's very likely in which case Marsh M will come in, a batsman to drop out. First thought is how can that be when we haven't got the batsman now and it's a fair question of how it could be. But as I heard some talking head say there's 4 Tests in 24 daysish so they want to get some load off the bowlers. A rock and a hard place. Sadly we have no 'all rounder' in the squad... M Marsh can't bat at test level and his bowling is completely ineffective... Better off bringing in pattinson, he'd probably make more runs than marsh and definitely be a threat with the ball... Even stoinis is a better option for mine at this stage which says more about marsh than it does stoinis... "On M Marsh, I agree his blowing offers nothing, in fact Head is probably a better option" Hmm... Say no more...
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