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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. C'mon Starc give it to em. Ruffle some feathers instead of bowling balls that they can comfortably leave.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. C'mon Starc give it to em. Ruffle some feathers instead of bowling balls that they can comfortably leave. another gazzunda. Finally he pinged one into the body. More of that.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. C'mon Starc give it to em. Ruffle some feathers instead of bowling balls that they can comfortably leave. another gazzunda. Finally he pinged one into the body. More of that. We just saw the reason why Starc is our most inconsistent bowler. Bowls a short cramping ball into the body followed by a wide half volley that was easily dispatched by the rock.. This man continually fails to build pressure.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. C'mon Starc give it to em. Ruffle some feathers instead of bowling balls that they can comfortably leave. another gazzunda. Finally he pinged one into the body. More of that. We just saw the reason why Starc is our most inconsistent bowler. Bowls a short cramping ball into the body followed by a wide half volley that was easily dispatched by the rock.. This man continually fails to build pressure. No wickets after the first 10 overs. Not looking good. The temp is rising too. 33C already.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. C'mon Starc give it to em. Ruffle some feathers instead of bowling balls that they can comfortably leave. another gazzunda. Finally he pinged one into the body. More of that. We just saw the reason why Starc is our most inconsistent bowler. Bowls a short cramping ball into the body followed by a wide half volley that was easily dispatched by the rock.. This man continually fails to build pressure. Cummins bowling beautifully. Kohli beaten again. While Pujara is cool man Luke. No wickets after the first 10 overs. Not looking good. The temp is rising too. 33C already. Hazlewood draws an edge behind but yet again it flies into space. Kohli has the luck of the gods.. no mistake.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started
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2-255 for India.
Hopefully, it is a flat track, not them batting well.
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+x2-255 for India. Hopefully, it is a flat track, not them batting well. Flat track.
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Marsh bowled well yesterday getting a bit of wobble in the air and keeping it tight
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns.
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the fact that marsh has thus far been good means that tiring us out won't work unless you are going for a draw. Its been very very useful
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns. That is a superb 100 by India's best batsman.
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lyon too quick again
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Excellent century from Pujara, full of grit, determination, patience and quality. He does not play fake cricket of the IPL and it shows.
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+x+x2-255 for India. Hopefully, it is a flat track, not them batting well. Flat track. Their fast bowlers are better than ours so while it is quite a flat track I think they will get more out of it.
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It would be huge insult to Paine to make Smith VC and expect him to effectively captain the side.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns. That is a superb 100 by India's best batsman. Not only the quicks are struggling on this flattie. So is Lyon.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns. That is a superb 100 by India's best batsman. Not only the quicks are struggling on this flattie. So is Lyon. 35C now.. what is that in the middle I wonder?
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Kohli is India's best batsman, Pujara is extremely good but not quite at level.
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I tend to agree that Pujara has made a very good century. Has it been chanceless?
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I reckon kohli should have been out 5 or 6 times in this innings
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns. That is a superb 100 by India's best batsman. Not only the quicks are struggling on this flattie. So is Lyon. 35C now.. what is that in the middle I wonder? Marsh gets Kohli flashing at another. That would have been a great wicket just before lunch.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo new ball, very strange decision, questioning Paine's captaincy here. If you are questioning Paines captaincy now, wait till the end of today & I may finally get someone agreeing with me as my view is unchangeable. This is the problem with a wk.captain What is his first priority; to captain or to keep wicket. If captaincy is first, then keeping is ranked second - not good for a test keeper. If keeping is first, then captaincy is ranked second - not good for a test captain. The first day showed how inexperienced he is, bad field management all round, he may have players with questionable ability, but it is how you lead & manage this on field - As a captain Paine could loose us this test. The advantage of a great captain / batsman is how they can inspire the team - Kohli comes into bat & both teams react. Ponting & Smith were the same, these types of captain / batsmen can turn matches & this is the expectancy they create when they come to the crease. Paine is absolutely unable to do this. The other advantage is sledging, wk always sledge but the captain does this the most, In our case we have one main person doing both. India is in no hurry to score runs, they want us in the field all day to day & part of tomorrow, stamp their authority on the game, have us very tired with sore bowlers by session 3 & then score. Hot today and tomorrow, then cools, India will be fresh & try to bowl us out twice. As it stands now 2 results possible - India wins or a draw. You will also see Paine wilt which will affect his captaincy and even worse decisions will be made, what is worse India knows this. I know most of you have Paine as a favourite, which is exactly what you accuse the selectors of - putting favouritism ahead of sound logic. As I saw it Paine's field placings.. specially in the final session were both imaginative and effective. India only scored their measly days total as the bowling was disciplined and the field placings stopped runs. I agree with you that as our best keeper he needs to be 100% focused on that and not have other distractions. This is even more important on a flat deck that offers up few chances such as this deaden.. India was not interested in pushing runs, wait until the 3rd session today when they have worn us down. Paine's on field management is playing into India's hands, already as I said 2 results possible - India wins or a draw, What experience, does Pain with his very limited captaincy at any level have to draw on to turn this match around = b.all. You have a real hate on Paine by sound of things. Quite the contrary, all I want is the best Australian test team we can have, which includes captain & vc. I think it is very unfair what CA has done to Paine & he may end up suffering for it. If Australia gets done like a dog's dinner and looses the trophy, Paine will unfairly come under the microscope, what will this do for him & could it affect his confidence as a keeper. As I have stated many times, I just do not agree with a wk/captain full stop. Fair comment. So if CA has a change of mind who will be the skipper? The only two with red ball captaincy under their belts are Mitch Marsh and Travis Head.. both of whom have not cemented their spots as I see it. Tho if not mistaken Khawaja has skippered the Bulls on occasions. I still would want Paine as deputy. I agree that Paine should be VC & would be an extremely good one, the problem is exactly what you raised - who else in the team would make a good captain. I raised Khawaja in a previous post as I did not know much about him, I just like the way he goes about his cricket, but would he make a good captain? Marsh to me is not a option as if he fails his place will be under question & whilst I do not know much about head captaincy would be too soon. Smith will be captain again, it is only when after 1st April 2020. I note that CA banned him from a captaincy role until the above date, but does that include being a VC? As I posted previously, if he can be a VC on his return that may be what CA has up their sleeve & it would work as he would be effectively controlling the field. I know a lot of you do not like the idea of Smith returning to captaincy but CA has no option as there is no one else & the PR has already started Head has captained the Redbacks for at least the last three years. Has a good record I understand. I have doubts over Head being a long term test player. Seems better suited to short formats. I can not see him playing an innings like Pujara has played twice now in this series. In fact other than Khawaja I doubt if we have anyone in the top six that could. Can we survive until Smithy returns. That is a superb 100 by India's best batsman. Not only the quicks are struggling on this flattie. So is Lyon. 35C now.. what is that in the middle I wonder? Marsh gets Kohli flashing at another. That would have been a great wicket just before lunch. he's living a charmed life out there wonder if India up the ante after lunch I think that unless we screw up they've used too many overs to force the issue
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India well on top, Australia bowled quite well but a fairly flat track and high quality batting meant no wickets.
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India can win this test match because their fast bowlers and their batsmen are better than ours. Just because Pujara and Kohli have made a lot of runs does not mean our inferior batsmen will do the same.
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+xIt would be huge insult to Paine to make Smith VC and expect him to effectively captain the side. Smith if made vc would not captain, but you would have someone in a position to advise Paine on micro management of the field that Paine cannot do if he is behind the stumps. But he would be the up & coming captain, which is what the VC should be. I don't worry about insults as that intimates emotion being used in making the correct decision. Decisions need to be made on logic reality and that is not currently happening. Note India is putting it to us, next session will be 40d plus in the middle & eventually our bowling will loosen up & that is when they will accelerate. Paine is doing little in this way and is already starting to look tired.
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+xIndia can win this test match because their fast bowlers and their batsmen are better than ours. Just because Pujara and Kohli have made a lot of runs does not mean our inferior batsmen will do the same. if we lose it will be our batters not our bowlers that are the problem I'd take our our attack over theirs any day our attack has kept us competitive when we have a batters with 1st class averages in the mid thirties frequently bowling with huge scoreboard pressure against them unlike our golden gen attack
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+xIndia can win this test match because their fast bowlers and their batsmen are better than ours. Just because Pujara and Kohli have made a lot of runs does not mean our inferior batsmen will do the same. Totally agree with you TF, which is unusual for me.
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+xI reckon kohli should have been out 5 or 6 times in this innings don't remember too many chances off pujara today Mark Waugh was just saying on Fox, that Aus has bowled reasonably without luck.
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+x+xIndia can win this test match because their fast bowlers and their batsmen are better than ours. Just because Pujara and Kohli have made a lot of runs does not mean our inferior batsmen will do the same. if we lose it will be our batters not our bowlers that are the problem I'd take our our attack over theirs any day our attack has kept us competitive when we have a batters with 1st class averages in the mid thirties frequently bowling with huge scoreboard pressure against them unlike our golden gen attack Good point, Grazor.
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