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+x+x+x+x+xhow many times over the last 2 years have our bowlers taken 20 wickets by comparison how many times have our batters failed to get 600 runs accross 2 innings 600 is generous in the modern game btw 650 is probably the new par its our batsmen that are the problem if you ask me Fair comment, Grazor. The pace bowlers are exhausted though, because of lack of support from batters. The batters are trying their hardest. They just aren't good enough or experienced enough in Test cricket at this stage of their careers Sandpapergate, couldn't have come at a worse time. Can I ask why do you think our bowlers are exhausted? Hazlewood and Cummins are only in their 8th test for the year. They have bowled say 320 overs this year. Cummins has taken 42 wickets so the extra pressure of carrying the pace attack may have some affect. Sure Lyons has bowled 612 overs, but look at Rabada he bowls 320 overs and takes 50 wickets. Bramha and Shami have bowled 360 overs this year and don't look too exhausted to me. Jimmy Anderson at the age of 37 has bowled 400 overs this year and has taken 43 wickets. Exhausted isn't a word I would use myself. its folklore that a tour to the sub continent followed by an oz summer is tough for a fast bowler Cummins and Hazlewood didn't tour Pakistan? Their last games before this summer was SA gosh having babies makes time all mold together. I remember them recently playing bangladesh and india but that was a while ago looks like its just a form slump then
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+x+xhow many times over the last 2 years have our bowlers taken 20 wickets by comparison how many times have our batters failed to get 600 runs accross 2 innings 600 is generous in the modern game btw 650 is probably the new par its our batsmen that are the problem if you ask me In the last 25 tests not including this current test, most of which had Smith and Warner and throw Khawaja in as well. Australia has won 11 matches in that time so they have to take 20 wickets to win Australia has only taken 20 wickets on 14 occasions (56%) with 3 drawn games. So when Australia lose a test they rarely bowl the opposition out, but not all tests are won by a number of wickets, There have been a lot of declarations. On 12 occasions (48%) the opposition have scored 600+ runs On only 6 occasions 24% have Australia restricted the opposition to under 500 On 9 occasions (36%) Australia has scored under 500 On 8 occasions (32%) Australia has scored over 600 So yes Batting is a problem, but it is not as bad as it is made out remembering Australia have played with Smith, Warner, Khawaja, they have a productive tail in Starc, Cummins, Lyons. The opposition bowlers which have been a variety of attacks, have all managed to restrict Australia to under 600 on 68% of the time. But when the opposition regularly score over 600 runs in a match which is half the time, the bowling has to be closely examined. This year Hazlewood has averaged 35, if that is acceptable then if all bowlers were to bowl at that average, the opposition would be scoring 700 runs in a match, and you can't win. So yes Hazlewood needs to go. But one of the real problems for selectors and the pressure placed on them by CA is the ridiculous player contracts that exist. CA is paying an elite 20, 5 times more than a shield player. If the they don't play these elite 20 then it money out the window, and we are talking a base salary only approaching 20 million dollars (approximately 100 sheffield shield players) They also get match payments, but the really ridiculous payments are the bonuses. If a player scores a century, bonus, takes 5 wickets bonus. "players could share in $42 million of incentives over five years, based on match and series wins at home and abroad, draws abroad and team world rankings." Now pick your team from 2018-19 CA men's contracts: Ashton Agar, Alex Carey, Pat Cummins, Aaron Finch, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Glenn Maxwell, Shaun Marsh, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine, Matthew Renshaw, Jhye Richardson, Kane Richardson, Billy Stanlake, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, Andrew Tye. (not many batsmen to chose from and not many consistent performers at shield level) And you wonder why the Marsh Bros are consistently picked. Apart from Jhye Richardson even the bowlers wouldn't be ones i would chose for tests. No Boland, Tremain, Pattinson etc. And when they have an injured bowler who do they replace them with Bird or Siddle, well and truly past their used by date. These selections are solely protection of their contract players. Imagine if a quality performing bowler was picked and actually did well. Great post, So it really comes down to CA being the problem, which includes Holmes who is still head of selectors - they had a huge financial problem which the deal with 7 & Foxtel solved, so they are not likely, to not use a contracted player. I have put ages against many of the list & as you said players like Siddle aged 34, M. Marsh aged 35, are at their use by dates, so why were they selected & have contracts? - If the new board really means business & not protect the previous board, they need to make drastic changes & if they do not do it soon, will just be same old, same old
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+x+x+x+x+x+xhow many times over the last 2 years have our bowlers taken 20 wickets by comparison how many times have our batters failed to get 600 runs accross 2 innings 600 is generous in the modern game btw 650 is probably the new par its our batsmen that are the problem if you ask me Fair comment, Grazor. The pace bowlers are exhausted though, because of lack of support from batters. The batters are trying their hardest. They just aren't good enough or experienced enough in Test cricket at this stage of their careers Sandpapergate, couldn't have come at a worse time. Can I ask why do you think our bowlers are exhausted? Hazlewood and Cummins are only in their 8th test for the year. They have bowled say 320 overs this year. Cummins has taken 42 wickets so the extra pressure of carrying the pace attack may have some affect. Sure Lyons has bowled 612 overs, but look at Rabada he bowls 320 overs and takes 50 wickets. Bramha and Shami have bowled 360 overs this year and don't look too exhausted to me. Jimmy Anderson at the age of 37 has bowled 400 overs this year and has taken 43 wickets. Exhausted isn't a word I would use myself. its folklore that a tour to the sub continent followed by an oz summer is tough for a fast bowler Cummins and Hazlewood didn't tour Pakistan? Their last games before this summer was SA gosh having babies makes time all mold together. I remember them recently playing bangladesh and india but that was a while ago looks like its just a form slump then The thing is that Hazlewood lives off his first 12 tests http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283528.htmlAt the end of his 12th test Hazlewood had taken 53 wickets at a good clip. Since then he has played 31 tests for 107/3058 average 28.6 SR 64. All Josh has to do is bowl there are no other expectations. He averages under 3.5 wickets per test. Where are the other 16.5 wickets to win a test coming from? to win 3 other bowlers have to average 5.5 wickets each is that fair? They bat as well and have pulled Australia's rear end out of the fire on numerous occasions. That is why he disappears from these lists http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283530.htmlhttp://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283532.htmlIt took him 40 tests to reach 150. This poor form has been a slow decline over the last 3 years so slow that it has been unnoticed, they even gave him VC, the media wrap him all the time, for what? Remember some bowlers have been dropped for a lot better performances especially if you look at his last 8 matches this year, they are very very poor and players have been axed for less.
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1st class Batting average/bowling average of just the CA contracts makes for grim reading
Finch 35.95
Handscomb 38.65
Head 36.9
Shaun Marsh 41
Khawaja 43.87
Renshaw 37.82
Maxwell 41.1/44.3
Agar 25.6/39.1
M Marsh 31.9/31.9
Stoinis 33.61/42.36
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+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xhow many times over the last 2 years have our bowlers taken 20 wickets by comparison how many times have our batters failed to get 600 runs accross 2 innings 600 is generous in the modern game btw 650 is probably the new par its our batsmen that are the problem if you ask me Fair comment, Grazor. The pace bowlers are exhausted though, because of lack of support from batters. The batters are trying their hardest. They just aren't good enough or experienced enough in Test cricket at this stage of their careers Sandpapergate, couldn't have come at a worse time. Can I ask why do you think our bowlers are exhausted? Hazlewood and Cummins are only in their 8th test for the year. They have bowled say 320 overs this year. Cummins has taken 42 wickets so the extra pressure of carrying the pace attack may have some affect. Sure Lyons has bowled 612 overs, but look at Rabada he bowls 320 overs and takes 50 wickets. Bramha and Shami have bowled 360 overs this year and don't look too exhausted to me. Jimmy Anderson at the age of 37 has bowled 400 overs this year and has taken 43 wickets. Exhausted isn't a word I would use myself. its folklore that a tour to the sub continent followed by an oz summer is tough for a fast bowler Cummins and Hazlewood didn't tour Pakistan? Their last games before this summer was SA gosh having babies makes time all mold together. I remember them recently playing bangladesh and india but that was a while ago looks like its just a form slump then The thing is that Hazlewood lives off his first 12 tests http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283528.htmlAt the end of his 12th test Hazlewood had taken 53 wickets at a good clip. Since then he has played 31 tests for 107/3058 average 28.6 SR 64. All Josh has to do is bowl there are no other expectations. He averages under 3.5 wickets per test. Where are the other 16.5 wickets to win a test coming from? to win 3 other bowlers have to average 5.5 wickets each is that fair? They bat as well and have pulled Australia's rear end out of the fire on numerous occasions. That is why he disappears from these lists http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283530.htmlhttp://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283532.htmlIt took him 40 tests to reach 150. This poor form has been a slow decline over the last 3 years so slow that it has been unnoticed, they even gave him VC, the media wrap him all the time, for what? 28 average is still respectable. I wouldn't be prepared to drop him on that evidence. But there is an argument for bowler rotation. If one of his replacements lights up the test scene then fair enough but I wouldn't risk dropping a bowler with that average for someone unproven
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+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only)
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+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Harsh on Maxwell who averages 41 at 1st class getting over 50 around 27% of the time which is one of our best records. Can bowl reasonably well and is a good fielder not to mention his short form record Also harsh on Finch, Stoinis and Mitch whose short form records are excellent
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+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xhow many times over the last 2 years have our bowlers taken 20 wickets by comparison how many times have our batters failed to get 600 runs accross 2 innings 600 is generous in the modern game btw 650 is probably the new par its our batsmen that are the problem if you ask me Fair comment, Grazor. The pace bowlers are exhausted though, because of lack of support from batters. The batters are trying their hardest. They just aren't good enough or experienced enough in Test cricket at this stage of their careers Sandpapergate, couldn't have come at a worse time. Can I ask why do you think our bowlers are exhausted? Hazlewood and Cummins are only in their 8th test for the year. They have bowled say 320 overs this year. Cummins has taken 42 wickets so the extra pressure of carrying the pace attack may have some affect. Sure Lyons has bowled 612 overs, but look at Rabada he bowls 320 overs and takes 50 wickets. Bramha and Shami have bowled 360 overs this year and don't look too exhausted to me. Jimmy Anderson at the age of 37 has bowled 400 overs this year and has taken 43 wickets. Exhausted isn't a word I would use myself. its folklore that a tour to the sub continent followed by an oz summer is tough for a fast bowler Cummins and Hazlewood didn't tour Pakistan? Their last games before this summer was SA gosh having babies makes time all mold together. I remember them recently playing bangladesh and india but that was a while ago looks like its just a form slump then The thing is that Hazlewood lives off his first 12 tests http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283528.htmlAt the end of his 12th test Hazlewood had taken 53 wickets at a good clip. Since then he has played 31 tests for 107/3058 average 28.6 SR 64. All Josh has to do is bowl there are no other expectations. He averages under 3.5 wickets per test. Where are the other 16.5 wickets to win a test coming from? to win 3 other bowlers have to average 5.5 wickets each is that fair? They bat as well and have pulled Australia's rear end out of the fire on numerous occasions. That is why he disappears from these lists http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283530.htmlhttp://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283532.htmlIt took him 40 tests to reach 150. This poor form has been a slow decline over the last 3 years so slow that it has been unnoticed, they even gave him VC, the media wrap him all the time, for what? 28 average is still respectable. I wouldn't be prepared to drop him on that evidence. But there is an argument for bowler rotation. If one of his replacements lights up the test scene then fair enough but I wouldn't risk dropping a bowler with that average for someone unproven here here. Starc has averaged @30 up till a year or so ago. @28 is more than respectable. @35 is not. So perhaps some time back in Shield cricket to reinvigorate his career. We have to grasp the fact that bowlers of Hazes ilk are not speed merchants and can manufacture wickets at will using their pace. His trade is accuracy, line and length, confusing the batsmen, creating a false sense of security for his wickets rather than smashing their stumps. That is not an easy task, specially when pitches are not conjusive to his speciality.
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I’m surprised there hasn’t been more enthusiasm for Australia’s excellent start to the second innings.
Lyon just beat Pant’s outside edge taken by Paine!
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Cummins has been preferred to Starc and Hazlewood opening the bowling today.
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+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year.
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+xCummins has been preferred to Starc and Hazlewood opening the bowling today. Just reward.
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+x+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year. stoinis and mitch actually have pretty good short form records but shouldn't be anywhere near a long form team Renshaw may one day bat Maxwell under the table but currently Maxwell is one of the few batsmen with a 40+ first class average and a handy bowler
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+x+x+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year. stoinis and mitch actually have pretty good short form records but shouldn't be anywhere near a long form team Renshaw may one day bat Maxwell under the table but currently Maxwell is one of the few batsmen with a 40+ first class average and a handy bowler Sorry grazor I know you are a Maxwell fan. He was previously dropped for inconsistency. What has changed? I am not totally against him getting another chance..specially in Asia as he is goodish player of spin. I meant that Renshaw is technically so much better than those others. Stoinis and Mitch for limited overs then.
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Cummins bowled him!
A 140kph full length ball, that kept low.
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incredible test by cummins
Once again 600 runs would have won the test
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+x+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year. Why is CA paying Agar a million dollar contract when he rarely plays. Why is Stanlake being paid a million? 2 FC games talk about disillusionment for the other Shield players, no wonder they chase the dollars in T20. These contracts should only take effect when they actually play. Stoinis has a 42 average in ODI's and IMO a better all-round prospect than M Marsh. How many all-rounders do CA have to give contracts to.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year. stoinis and mitch actually have pretty good short form records but shouldn't be anywhere near a long form team Renshaw may one day bat Maxwell under the table but currently Maxwell is one of the few batsmen with a 40+ first class average and a handy bowler Sorry grazor I know you are a Maxwell fan. He was previously dropped for inconsistency. What has changed? I am not totally against him getting another chance..specially in Asia as he is goodish player of spin. I meant that Renshaw is technically so much better than those others. Stoinis and Mitch for limited overs then. fan is an exaggeration but he is in our best side. The fact that being in our best side doesn't make him a world beater isn't his fault As for inconsistency A player averaging 41 is going to have a lot of poor innings and between a quarter and a third will be good. But thats still better than his rivals as depressing as that is and he offers a lot in the field
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+xincredible test by cummins Once again 600 runs would have won the test doubt we will get it from here You do realise India declared in the first innings and are just throwing the bat, and not batting as they normally would. 600 runs would be very easy for India to achieve, and still could. Once again Australia can't take 20 wickets in a match and have relied on declarations. Pat Cummins 8/93. What's the excuse for Starc 2/98 and Hazlewood 2/100? Same pitch.
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pain has had a very untidy match behind the stumps
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+x+xincredible test by cummins Once again 600 runs would have won the test doubt we will get it from here You do realise India declared in the first innings and are just throwing the bat, and not batting as they normally would. 600 runs would be very easy for India to achieve, and still could. Once again Australia can't take 20 wickets in a match and have relied on declarations. Pat Cummins 8/93. What's the excuse for Starc 2/98 and Hazlewood 2/100? Same pitch. 600 would definitely at least get a draw and cummins performance has had little to do with india's approach Starc and Hazelwood are a bit out of form
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xone thing that should be noted is that bowlers often get better results when scoreboard pressure is in their favour Hazelwood and starc have had a form slump but thats exaggerated by the fact that scoreboard pressure is rarely in our favour our bowling unit has often gotten us back into matches since our batting is so poor Good points grazor. Ashton Agar (keep) Alex Carey (keep), Pat Cummins (keep), Aaron Finch (dump), Peter Handscomb (dump), Josh Hazlewood (keep), Travis Head (dump), Usman Khawaja (keep), Nathan Lyon (keep), Glenn Maxwell (dump), Shaun Marsh (dump), Mitchell Marsh,(dump) Tim Paine (keep), Matthew Renshaw (keep), Jhye Richardson,(keep) Kane Richardson (ODI,T20 only), Billy Stanlake (ODI T20 only), Mitchell Starc (ODI T20 only), Marcus Stoinis (dump), Andrew Tye.(ODI T20 only) Though I question a few of your dumps, namely Head, Maxwell, Stoinis, and a few of your keeps, such as Renshaw, Agar, Hazlewood, I think you would agree that this system is majorly flawed as it doesn't promote excellence as these select few get paid a lot regardless of performance. We should go to the Indian system where the majority of the money comes from playing games, not base salaries which aren't that much higher than grade cricketers. Have to perform to maintain selection thus the money. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1123792/who-gets-paid-what-in-cricket Renshaw would bat Maxwell and Head under the table. We have spoken ad nauseum about Hazlewood. What justification do you have for wanting Stoinis. His FC record @33 is not Test standard. How can you dump Agar when he has not had a chance to show what he can do. He gets a deserved contract.. is picked in sides but ends up carrying the drinks. When did he last pull on the colored clothing let alone a Baggy Green? Talk about disillusioning a man. You watch he will dumped from a central contract for next year. stoinis and mitch actually have pretty good short form records but shouldn't be anywhere near a long form team Renshaw may one day bat Maxwell under the table but currently Maxwell is one of the few batsmen with a 40+ first class average and a handy bowler Sorry grazor I know you are a Maxwell fan. He was previously dropped for inconsistency. What has changed? I am not totally against him getting another chance..specially in Asia as he is goodish player of spin. I meant that Renshaw is technically so much better than those others. Stoinis and Mitch for limited overs then. Can Cummo get a 9 for?
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bowl starc and cummins at indias tail
only chance really is to brake someones hand
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Cummins is now 6-27!
Jadeja caught Usman at leg slip off a Cummins short delivery.
Now an appeal DRS review caught behind!
Nothing conclusive, but looked like a very faint edge.
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+xCummins is now 6-27!Jadeja caught Usman at leg slip off a Cummins short delivery. Now an appeal DRS review caught behind!Nothing conclusive, but looked like a very faint edge. done by a bad camera angle on the leg side hotspot i reckon by the way time for my periodic "get rid of DRS" grumble
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shame about those dropped caches in the first innings cost us 100 runs
probably would have scored more too since the scoreboard pressure was better
catches win matches
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Pant huge straight drive for 6 off Hazlewood.
Out caught Paine off Hazlewood next ball, as Kohli declares at 7-106.
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Grazorblade, I agree those catches look costly now. We’ve decimated India in the second dig.
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