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khawaja should dance to around 2-3 balls an over to get the 3m in his advantage and force a short or leg side ball
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+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap.
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+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers
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top 6 first class averages for next test regardless of CA contracts. End of story
Marcus is not (yet) one of them so should never have been picked
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good shot khawaja
Need to sustain that 4 overs in a row
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brilliant getting a 6 then a 1
boundary followed by one sucks the energy out of the opposition
need to do that over and over again throughout a match
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+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance.
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even though jadeja got a thick edge those runs can play on an opposing captain if you can sustain it a few overs you can get the spinner out of the attack and force the pacemen to use some gas
probably makes no difference at this stage mind you
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than face a succession of pressure balls.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series. I don't think Bancroft is in our best 11 anyway The other two are well ahead of their nearest rivals so they get different circumstances
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series. How both average @40+ in beyond me. Plenty of not outs. Lynn does tho have a massive FC 250 on his resume. If Lynn could be another Sehwag. Then he would make my test 11. No idea what Bancroft is planning or rather CA with Bancroft. 8.. 402 @30 82 t/s.Not exactly smashing down the door.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than face a succession of pressure balls. remarkably our tail could be one of the best off all time if you select (near) our best 1st class bowling team O'keefe, Faulkner, Cummins and Pattison selecting that bowling squad could be a creative solution to our batting woes
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series. You jest about Lynn Mike. He and maxwell are two peas in same pod. No idea what Bancroft is planning or rather CA with Bancroft. 8.. 402 @30 82 t/s.Not exactly smashing down the door. 43 average puts him well ahead of most in the team it doesn't matter how a batsmen plays its results that matter and he and maxwell have them
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by the way lynn is a very flexible batsmen. Just because he is effective at the short formats doesn't mean he can't adjust his game
have a look at the following 1st class strike rates
Warner: 74.56 Maxwell: 73 Kane Richardson: 58 Virat Kohli: 57 Smith: 57 Joe Root: 56 Lynn: 55
We lose one of our only 4 test quality batsmen when he isn't playing
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series. You jest about Lynn Mike. He and maxwell are two peas in same pod. No idea what Bancroft is planning or rather CA with Bancroft. 8.. 402 @30 82 t/s.Not exactly smashing down the door. 43 average puts him well ahead of most in the team it doesn't matter how a batsmen plays its results that matter and he and maxwell have them I changed my post. How both average @40+ in beyond me. Plenty of not outs. Lynn does tho have a massive FC 250 on his resume. Does Lynny have the potential to develop into a Sehwag clone? If so then he would make my test 11.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. we have 3 test match quality batsmen in smith, warner and Khawaja. 4 if we can select Lynn The best we can do is find out which of the players who average 40+ at 1st class level can be a passable test batsman. So worth bringing in burns, Patterson and Maxwell Another question what about Bancroft, he will be available in the next week or so. Should he be recalled immediately he is available, and if not because we don't know what FC form he has, shouldn't that reasoning be applied to Warner and Smith therefore not playing them in the Ashes series. You jest about Lynn Mike. He and maxwell are two peas in same pod. No idea what Bancroft is planning or rather CA with Bancroft. 8.. 402 @30 82 t/s.Not exactly smashing down the door. 43 average puts him well ahead of most in the team it doesn't matter how a batsmen plays its results that matter and he and maxwell have them I changed my post. How both average @40+ in beyond me. Plenty of not outs. Lynn does tho have a massive FC 250 on his resume. Does Lynny have the potential to develop into a Sehwag clone? If so then he would make my test 11. actually he's quite a measured batsman with a strike rate of only 55 only 8 not outs in his 1st class career he bats quite high up the order
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test. Australia has had some unlucky batsmen. Those that many say deserved a Baggy Green but were never given one. One bloke that did get his BG and is still considered unlucky has to be Brad Hodge. Hodgey scored a double century and was inexplicably discarded never to wear the BG again. How gut wrenching would that be. Likewise in ODI scored a ton in wc match and never picked again. When asked how he felt towards the selectors. Hodgey showed great humility. "There were great players around in those days. I suppose I was lucky to get a chance" Not luck Hodgey. I heard he was to be a commentator for 7 I think it was. Yet to hear him.
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+x+xI see Pattinson and Tremain mentioned as possible fast bowlers to bring into the team. They both play for Victoria and have been comprehensively out bowled this season by Scott Boland who never seems to to get mentioned. Why? Admittedly Tremains overall FC record is a lot better than Boland's and he is two years younger, but Boland is the form bowler of the season. Boland 36 wickets at 17.41 6 matches Tremain 28 wickets at 23.60 6 matches Pattinson 9 wickets at 33.11 4 matches Siddle 10 wickets at 28.3 2 matches At this rate Pattinson does not even make the Victorian side.
However I am very tempted to just go for the young talent, pick Jhye Richardson and let him fly. Not that it really matters but he can also bat.
Interesting to look at these stats. I've had trouble finding them. Riley Meredith, the young Tassie bowler has been recorded in the mid 140s in BBL. Faster than any Victorian bowler. I don't like Tremain's bowling action from viewing him live. Riley Meredith is one to watch but ready yet.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test. Australia has had some unlucky batsmen. Those that many say deserved a Baggy Green but were never given one. One bloke that did get his BG and is still considered unlucky has to be Brad Hodge. How many Test batsmen score a double century and are then inexplicably discarded never to wear the BG again. Hodgey was. How gut wrenching would that be. Likewise in ODI he scored a ton and never picked again. When asked how he felt towards the selectors. Hodgey showed great humility. "There were great players around in those days. I suppose I was lucky to get a chance" Not luck Hodgey. I heard he was to be a commentator for 7 I think it was. Yet to hear him. I have no confidence watching Marsh facing spin.
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+xyou know with our batting woes you could really think out of the box and strengthen the batting in the tail having faulkner, o'keefe, pattison and cummins. A team based purely on 1st class career performances Burns Lynn Khawaja K Pattison Maxwell Cameron White Paine Faulkner O'keefe J Pattison Cummins 2 all rounders. Lynn and Faulkner are currently not playing FC cricket and cannot be selected. Pattinson is clearly no where near his best on the comeback from injury so his career statistics need to discounted. He needs to prove his is that good again, hopefully he can but injuries may have ruined him. O'Keefe would be number 11 in that team, he has really struggled with the bat at test level, he has a lower average than Lyon.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test. You would think only a 100 would save his position. I have no qualms about dropping him. Too many chances.. too many mediocre scores. Your time is up. On ya bike. I will keep brother Mitch alone for his bowling and the balance he gives to the team.. specially if picking two spinners. Why do we need a leftie pacer. Starc goes.. stick with Hazlewood for time being. .. but his form needs to turn the corner.. or at least his strike rate.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test. You would think only a 100 would save his position. I have no qualms about dropping him. Too many chances.. too many mediocre scores. Has trouble living up to expectation. His time is up. I will keep brother Mitch alone for his bowling and the balance he gives to the team.. specially if picking two spinners. Why do we need a leftie pacer. Starc goes.. stick with Hazlewood for time being. .. but his form needs to turn the corner.. or at least his strike rate does.. . Laid back Ussie trapped in front. All over today now.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. To get a drawn series is some compensation. If professional red ball cricketers cant change from one mode to anothern then they should not be classed as professionals. I will pick those with the current best FC records who are actually playing some sort of cricket. Whether contracted or not. The contracted ones have failed miserably and should have that valuable piece of paper ripped into little pieces.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. I agree another opener since Burns that hasn't measured up YET. I'll go a different idea, if we lose this test India retain trophy. Is it wise to bring in new players that are currently in T20 mode and with such a small turn around between tests is it fair to the new players to be given such a small amount of time to refine their game back to test level standard? To me that would be like getting 2 new openers making them fly for 20 hours and then go out to bat a day after landing, then not play them again, because the jet lag affected their performance. To get a drawn series is some compensation. If professional red ball cricketers cant change from one mode to anothern then they should not be classed as professionals. I will pick those with the current best FC records who are actually playing some sort of cricket. Whether contracted or not. The contracted ones have failed miserably and should have that valuable piece of paper ripped into little pieces. That was something I was wondering about, can CA cancel the contracts of players, or do they need to pay them out?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPoor Finch! Vic selectors were right, he isn’t an opener. Australia is already 1-6. he isn't a long form player selecters again chased short term form and ignored career average Short term form and short format form. Finch should never again be seen in a Baggy Green. You mean the test team? Or all formats? I think he is very good in the shorter formats? Baggy Green..Test team. They other is a yucky yellow cap. Harris also an F. He should be given the three remaining matches of the summer. Or should he? Ferguson and Faulkner were given a measly solitary Test. He has had two more than them. faulkner's 1st class stats justify his inclusion as one of the 4 specialist bowlers I agree. CA just cant see it. I like Ussie's game plan against Jadeja. Attack him forcing a deep fielder then he can better rotate the strike rather than have pressure built by facing too many balls in a row. I've always liked Khawaja and whilst he has been accused of being lazy he is not. He plays in a relaxed manner, which to me is a positive. Being relaxed means you burn less energy and should physically survive a long session in the middle better. At age 32 he only has a few years left & I would like to see him as the permanent number 3 for that time, he can open, can play a staying innings and can freely score if required - there is none around to replace him as a number 3 test player, contracted or not. The problem is the test opening positions, I did like the look of Harris but he is not showing the patience required to let balls go - is he still in consideration to keep his place - Finch we know about. So we then look at the realistic selection for the SCG by CA. Here's my guess; 1 / Harris - 2 / ? - 3 / Khawaja - 4 / S. Marsh - 5 / head - 6 / Paine - 7 / Agar - 8 / Cummins - 9 / J. Richardson - 10 / Lyon - 11 / Starc If you drop Starc no left hand pace, Agar bowls opposite to Lyon so good combination, 2nd opener position open & they may bring in a non contracted player, S. Marsh stays as no other contracted player to replace him & Finch is not a number 4. Would CA drop both VC's, a real big ? as it admits they were wrong & as posted is it worth bringing in players from the other formats for one test. You would think only a 100 would save his position. I have no qualms about dropping him. Too many chances.. too many mediocre scores. Has trouble living up to expectation. His time is up. I will keep brother Mitch alone for his bowling and the balance he gives to the team.. specially if picking two spinners. Why do we need a leftie pacer. Starc goes.. stick with Hazlewood for time being. .. but his form needs to turn the corner.. or at least his strike rate does.. . Laid back Ussie trapped in front. All over today now. Squared up, out to a good ball but at least liked he was playing test cricket & not T20 like most of them
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