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+x+x+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes. Think you will find that Harris has already done sufficient for an Ashes berth. Many pundits and former players are talking him up. I guess he does need to be playing and developing tho. Renshaw's domestic form will return. Is too good a player for it not to. He does have this in his favor to be on the plane to England. Playing for Somerset this county season 6 m 513 r @51 with three centuries. The three kids are on spec.. a gamble. Blood one of them against a weaker opposition. He may just score a big ton to put himself in the frame for the Ashes. Joe Root has big wraps on Sangha...perhaps give him the nod. He, Philippe and Pucovski are our three most promising red ball cricketers imho. What is the point in putting Agar on a contract and not playing him in any format. it is foolish and one CA should rectify. He must be so disillusioned. A mixture of poor bowling conditions and injury is reason for his moderate figures for WA. His bowling has improved markedly. His batting is resolute but he can lift the scoring rate in a heartbeat if needs be. Zampa is our best performed limited overs wristie and his red ball game is improving. Ahmed bowled well in the shield before Holland returned. He is also bowling well in the circus game. I just read an article which said WA rested Agar from their last shield match so he would be fresh for the BBL. THIS IS A DISGRACE. He has hardly played for whatever reason yet was still RESTED. IT MAKES NO SENSE. The only way I can interpret it is he was protected from being injured so he could play the BBL. So somehow the fake cricket BBL is being put above FC cricket. FUMING. I think Agar is talented but he needs to play FC cricket so he can develop and in a few years replace Lyon as our main spinner. Playing BBL instead of FC cricket is not going to do him any good. Ahmed has good looking figures but I checked the games he played and every wicket he took was a tail ender so the stats flatter him an awful lot. He is also 36 and has a modest FC record. Choosing a second spinner is not going to be easy if one is needed. Lyon has 20 wickets at 21.45 but no one else has done anything to really impressive Swepson 14 wickets at 47 Ahmed 9 wickets at 17 but all tail enders Pope 9 wickets at 51, with 7 coming in one innings. Holland 8 wickets at 35. It is probably difficult for him to take too many wickets with Boland and Tremain taking so many but his average is a bit high. He did take 5/65 in the last match. O'Keefe 7 wickets at 44 Labuschagne 5 wickets at 59 Sangha 4 wickets at 34 Usman Qadir, oh wait he is from Pakistan and has terrible figures anyway. Good post. Yes the spin cupboard is bare going on those figures. To be fair the Shield decks this season have been grassy which is good for pace over spin. . We need to have somewhere where our spinners can actually take wickets. There has been talk of the NT. The red dust ant bed like decks that certainly would provide spinning conditions. Does the new CA CEO have the foresite to do something about this. If this is in the too hard basket, CA could always install one of those Indian-like practice decks at the NCC in the middle of an actual ground. So our cricketers can play an actual game using actual spinning conditions. Are we all forgetting that an OZ A side will travel to England for matches against County sides while the WC is on. This is an excellent prep for fringies if needed for the Baggy Greens in the Ashes. So that squad also has to be picked. This side should contain some of our most promising cricketers. Josh Philippe, Jason Sangha, Cameron Green, and Will Pucovski. Tremain and J Richardson should be automatic selections. Others in contention are Trent Copeland, Jack Wildermuth, Josh Inglis, Jake Lehmann, Riley Meredith, Jimmy Peirson, Ashton Agar, Cameron Bancroft, Nick Winter, Michael Neser, Alex Doolan, Tom Cooper, Matthew Wade, Mark Steketee, Dan Worrall, Jackson Bird. I also have Worrall and Nick Winter as Ashes tourists. Our two best swing bowlers imho.
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+x+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes. Think you will find that Harris has already done sufficient for an Ashes berth. Many pundits and former players are talking him up. I guess he does need to be playing and developing tho. Renshaw's domestic form will return. Is too good a player for it not to. He does have this in his favor to be on the plane to England. Playing for Somerset this county season 6 m 513 r @51 with three centuries. The three kids are on spec.. a gamble. Blood one of them against a weaker opposition. He may just score a big ton to put himself in the frame for the Ashes. Joe Root has big wraps on Sangha...perhaps give him the nod. He, Philippe and Pucovski are our three most promising red ball cricketers imho. What is the point in putting Agar on a contract and not playing him in any format. it is foolish and one CA should rectify. He must be so disillusioned. A mixture of poor bowling conditions and injury is reason for his moderate figures for WA. His bowling has improved markedly. His batting is resolute but he can lift the scoring rate in a heartbeat if needs be. Zampa is our best performed limited overs wristie and his red ball game is improving. Ahmed bowled well in the shield before Holland returned. He is also bowling well in the circus game. I just read an article which said WA rested Agar from their last shield match so he would be fresh for the BBL. THIS IS A DISGRACE. He has hardly played for whatever reason yet was still RESTED. IT MAKES NO SENSE. The only way I can interpret it is he was protected from being injured so he could play the BBL. So somehow the fake cricket BBL is being put above FC cricket. FUMING. I think Agar is talented but he needs to play FC cricket so he can develop and in a few years replace Lyon as our main spinner. Playing BBL instead of FC cricket is not going to do him any good. Ahmed has good looking figures but I checked the games he played and every wicket he took was a tail ender so the stats flatter him an awful lot. He is also 36 and has a modest FC record. Choosing a second spinner is not going to be easy if one is needed. Lyon has 20 wickets at 21.45 but no one else has done anything to really impressive Swepson 14 wickets at 47 Ahmed 9 wickets at 17 but all tail enders Pope 9 wickets at 51, with 7 coming in one innings. Holland 8 wickets at 35. It is probably difficult for him to take too many wickets with Boland and Tremain taking so many but his average is a bit high. He did take 5/65 in the last match. O'Keefe 7 wickets at 44 Labuschagne 5 wickets at 59 Sangha 4 wickets at 34 Usman Qadir, oh wait he is from Pakistan and has terrible figures anyway. Good post. Yes the spin cupboard is bare going on those figures. To be fair the Shield decks this season have been grassy which is good for pace .. not so good for spin. We need to have somewhere where our spinners can actually take wickets. There has been talk of the NT. The red dust ant bed like decks that certainly would provide spinning conditions. Does the new CA CEO have the foresite to do something about this. If this is in the too hard basket, CA could always install one of those Indian-like practice decks at the NCC in the middle of an actual ground. So our cricketers can play an actual game using actual spinning conditions.
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+x+x+xPuckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Burns 47.58 - retain C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Renshaw 36.98 - retain Bailey 35.97 ditto White Maxwell 46.58 retain? Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement plenty of batters that you can make a competetive top 6 with there only need 4 as well Khawaja Burns Harris Maxwell to accompany Smith and Warner. Before then include White and patterson grazor I see Patterson as long term not a stop gap. Where is Maxwell @46. I have him at @41 career average.. mostly after a strong 2017/18. Has he played this year? Can not see his record. I made 3 lists 1 of shield averages (higher than 1st class) 1 of shield average from last 2 seasons and one that weights each average equally (to weight career and form equally) 46 is that equally weighted score oh ok.
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we need a spinners paradise
perhaps the northern territory can work as a new sheild team and reproduce subcontinent conditions
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+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes. Think you will find that Harris has already done sufficient for an Ashes berth. Many pundits and former players are talking him up. I guess he does need to be playing and developing tho. Renshaw's domestic form will return. Is too good a player for it not to. He does have this in his favor to be on the plane to England. Playing for Somerset this county season 6 m 513 r @51 with three centuries. The three kids are on spec.. a gamble. Blood one of them against a weaker opposition. He may just score a big ton to put himself in the frame for the Ashes. Joe Root has big wraps on Sangha...perhaps give him the nod. He, Philippe and Pucovski are our three most promising red ball cricketers imho. What is the point in putting Agar on a contract and not playing him in any format. it is foolish and one CA should rectify. He must be so disillusioned. A mixture of poor bowling conditions and injury is reason for his moderate figures for WA. His bowling has improved markedly. His batting is resolute but he can lift the scoring rate in a heartbeat if needs be. Zampa is our best performed limited overs wristie and his red ball game is improving. Ahmed bowled well in the shield before Holland returned. He is also bowling well in the circus game. I just read an article which said WA rested Agar from their last shield match so he would be fresh for the BBL. THIS IS A DISGRACE. He has hardly played for whatever reason yet was still RESTED. IT MAKES NO SENSE. The only way I can interpret it is he was protected from being injured so he could play the BBL. So somehow the fake cricket BBL is being put above FC cricket. FUMING. I think Agar is talented but he needs to play FC cricket so he can develop and in a few years replace Lyon as our main spinner. Playing BBL instead of FC cricket is not going to do him any good. Ahmed has good looking figures but I checked the games he played and every wicket he took was a tail ender so the stats flatter him an awful lot. He is also 36 and has a modest FC record. Choosing a second spinner is not going to be easy if one is needed. Lyon has 20 wickets at 21.45 but no one else has done anything to really impressive Swepson 14 wickets at 47 Ahmed 9 wickets at 17 but all tail enders Pope 9 wickets at 51, with 7 coming in one innings. Holland 8 wickets at 35. It is probably difficult for him to take too many wickets with Boland and Tremain taking so many but his average is a bit high. He did take 5/65 in the last match. O'Keefe 7 wickets at 44 Labuschagne 5 wickets at 59 Sangha 4 wickets at 34 Usman Qadir, oh wait he is from Pakistan and has terrible figures anyway.
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+x+xPuckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Burns 47.58 - retain C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Renshaw 36.98 - retain Bailey 35.97 ditto White Maxwell 46.58 retain? Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement plenty of batters that you can make a competetive top 6 with there only need 4 as well Khawaja Burns Harris Maxwell to accompany Smith and Warner. Before then include White and patterson grazor I see Patterson as long term not a stop gap. Where is Maxwell @46. I have him at @41 career average.. mostly after a strong 2017/18. Has he played this year? Can not see his record. I made 3 lists 1 of shield averages (higher than 1st class) 1 of shield average from last 2 seasons and one that weights each average equally (to weight career and form equally) 46 is that equally weighted score
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+xPuckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Burns 47.58 - retain C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Renshaw 36.98 - retain Bailey 35.97 ditto White Maxwell 46.58 retain? Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement plenty of batters that you can make a competetive top 6 with there only need 4 as well Khawaja Burns Harris Maxwell to accompany Smith and Warner. Before then include White and patterson grazor I see Patterson as long term not a stop gap. Where is Maxwell @46. I have him at @41 career average.. mostly after a strong 2017/18. Has he played this year? Can not see his record.
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Puckovski 62.65 - retain.
Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Burns 47.58 - retain C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Renshaw 36.98 - retain Bailey 35.97 ditto White
Maxwell 46.58 retain?
Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement
plenty of batters that you can make a competetive top 6 with there
only need 4 as well
Khawaja Burns Harris Maxwell to accompany Smith and Warner. Before then include White and patterson
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missed maxwell some how weighting form and career he is one of the best Maxwell 46.58
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+x+xGame washed out - India win the series with a score line somewhat flattering Australia at 2-1... Now the soul searching and the post mortems of Australian cricket. We are in a muddy patch at the moment. We will sink more before we can once again swim. I bet Fanie de Villiers isn't getting much love from Cricket Australia right now... Now there's an ODI series that I expect India to win... And that's the longest part of the summer over... until WC and Ashes humiliation in winter... At some point, someone has to offer Tom Moody a fortune to come back to Australia and sort this mess out. Which he is more than capable of doing seeing he understands WORLD cricket...
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+xGame washed out - India win the series with a score line somewhat flattering Australia at 2-1... Now for some soul searching and the post mortems of Australian cricket. We are in a muddy patch at the moment. We will sink more before we can once again swim.
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Game washed out - India win the series with a score line somewhat flattering Australia at 2-1...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match and the series. Will only be polishing over the cracks. The test match is a draw, there will be very little play, if any at all, and even our weak batting will not lose. So without any FC cricket between now and the first test against Sri Lanka selections need to be made on Shield cricket and performances in the test series. The fake cricket BBL can be completely ignored and so can the one day series against India which is going to happen in between. It is a complete disgrace but it seems our test batsmen and contenders to play test cricket are going to be ruining their mindset but playing one of these two fake cricket events. There should be a round of FC cricket before the Sri Lankan tests. Assuming we name a 13 man squad for the Sri Lankan series it should be Wicket Keeper: Paine Fast bowlers: Cummins, Starc, J. Richardson and Tremain Spinner: Lyon Batsmen: Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Patterson, Maxwell, Wade, Handscomb. Starc stays because he is a left armer, but maybe still not play. I've always liked a left armer, as everything about them is a different perspective. This is also why I prefer a leftie finger spinner opposite Lyon, compared to a right wrist spinner. The dynamics are just different. I totally agree with you over there not being any red ball cricket at this time of the year. Ludicrous.. but one CA wont change as the BBL is its 'cash cow'. So who is your leftie finger spinner. Agar? Maxwell perhaps definitely not Handscomb. 105 @21 for this series. Still has this dodgy technique. Too much a liability for the Ashes. Have not ruled out a total washout.. after at least a half hour of this rain band there are clear skies. So if the outfield is deemed playable we should get the last session. It is already starting to clear here and I am around 20km south/west of the SCG. Obviously the outfield is too wet even when the rain stops. as the match has now been called off with india. winning a comprehensive 2-1 victory. Can be no one other than Chet Pujara as the MOS. Wins it by a country mile.
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+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes. Think you will find that Harris has already done sufficient for an Ashes berth. Many pundits and former players are talking him up. I guess he does need to be playing and developing tho. Renshaw's domestic form will return. Is too good a player for it not to. He does have this in his favor to be on the plane to England. Playing for Somerset this county season 6 m 513 r @51 with three centuries. The three kids are on spec.. a gamble. Blood one of them against a weaker opposition. He may just score a big ton to put himself in the frame for the Ashes. Joe Root has big wraps on Sangha...perhaps give him the nod. He, Philippe and Pucovski are our three most promising red ball cricketers imho. What is the point in putting Agar on a contract and not playing him in any format. it is foolish and one CA should rectify. He must be so disillusioned. A mixture of poor bowling conditions and injury is reason for his moderate figures for WA. His bowling has improved markedly. His batting is resolute but he can lift the scoring rate in a heartbeat if needs be. Zampa is our best performed limited overs wristie and his red ball game is improving. Ahmed is bowling well too at the moment in the circus game. Agar is not a test player. He's an eco bowler for limited overs with some very limited batting ability. Put frankly, I am not entirely convinced he's not simply a bits and pieces cricketer and he's not near either Ali or Santner at this role. Yes he had a great innings on debut - so did many cricketers who then went on to fail. Circus leggies play a different sport to red ball cricket. Its a different ball game with the field up and having to find their mark against reactive and non premeditating batsmen.
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+x+x+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match and the series. Will only be polishing over the cracks. The test match is a draw, there will be very little play, if any at all, and even our weak batting will not lose. So without any FC cricket between now and the first test against Sri Lanka selections need to be made on Shield cricket and performances in the test series. The fake cricket BBL can be completely ignored and so can the one day series against India which is going to happen in between. It is a complete disgrace but it seems our test batsmen and contenders to play test cricket are going to be ruining their mindset but playing one of these two fake cricket events. There should be a round of FC cricket before the Sri Lankan tests. Assuming we name a 13 man squad for the Sri Lankan series it should be Wicket Keeper: Paine Fast bowlers: Cummins, Starc, J. Richardson and Tremain Spinner: Lyon Batsmen: Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Patterson, Maxwell, Wade, Handscomb. Starc stays because he is a left armer, but maybe still not play. I've always liked a left armer, as everything about them is a different perspective. This is also why I prefer a leftie finger spinner opposite Lyon, compared to a right wrist spinner. The dynamics are just different. I totally agree with you over there not being any red ball cricket at this time of the year. Ludicrous.. but one CA wont change as the BBL is its 'cash cow'. So who is your leftie finger spinner. Agar? Maxwell perhaps definitely not Handscomb. 105 @21 for this series. Still has this dodgy technique. Too much a liability for the Ashes. Have not ruled out a total washout.. after at least a half hour of this rain band there are clear skies. So if the outfield is deemed playable we should get the last session. It is already starting to clear here and I am around 20km south/west of the SCG.
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+x+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match and the series. Will only be polishing over the cracks. The test match is a draw, there will be very little play, if any at all, and even our weak batting will not lose. So without any FC cricket between now and the first test against Sri Lanka selections need to be made on Shield cricket and performances in the test series. The fake cricket BBL can be completely ignored and so can the one day series against India which is going to happen in between. It is a complete disgrace but it seems our test batsmen and contenders to play test cricket are going to be ruining their mindset but playing one of these two fake cricket events. There should be a round of FC cricket before the Sri Lankan tests. Assuming we name a 13 man squad for the Sri Lankan series it should be Wicket Keeper: Paine Fast bowlers: Cummins, Starc, J. Richardson and Tremain Spinner: Lyon Batsmen: Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Patterson, Maxwell, Wade, Handscomb. Starc stays because he is a left armer, but maybe still not play. I've always liked a left armer, as everything about them is a different perspective. This is also why I prefer a leftie finger spinner opposite Lyon, compared to a right wrist spinner. The dynamics are just different. I totally agree with you over there not being any red ball cricket at this time of the year. Ludicrous.. but one CA wont change as the BBL is its 'cash cow'. So who is your leftie finger spinner. Agar? Maxwell perhaps definitely not Handscomb. 105 @21 for this series. Still has this dodgy technique. Too much a liability for the Ashes.
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+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes. Think you will find that Harris has already done sufficient for an Ashes berth. Many pundits and former players are talking him up. I guess he does need to be playing and developing tho. Renshaw's domestic form will return. Is too good a player for it not to. He does have this in his favor to be on the plane to England. Playing for Somerset this county season 6 m 513 r @51 with three centuries. The three kids are on spec.. a gamble. Blood one of them against a weaker opposition. He may just score a big ton to put himself in the frame for the Ashes. Joe Root has big wraps on Sangha...perhaps give him the nod. He, Philippe and Pucovski are our three most promising red ball cricketers imho. What is the point in putting Agar on a contract and not playing him in any format. it is foolish and one CA should rectify. He must be so disillusioned. A mixture of poor bowling conditions and injury is reason for his moderate figures for WA. His bowling has improved markedly. His batting is resolute but he can lift the scoring rate in a heartbeat if needs be. Zampa is our best performed limited overs wristie and his red ball game is improving. Ahmed bowled well in the shield before Holland returned. He is also bowling well in the circus game.
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+x+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match and the series. Will only be polishing over the cracks. The test match is a draw, there will be very little play, if any at all, and even our weak batting will not lose. So without any FC cricket between now and the first test against Sri Lanka selections need to be made on Shield cricket and performances in the test series. The fake cricket BBL can be completely ignored and so can the one day series against India which is going to happen in between. It is a complete disgrace but it seems our test batsmen and contenders to play test cricket are going to be ruining their mindset but playing one of these two fake cricket events. There should be a round of FC cricket before the Sri Lankan tests. Assuming we name a 13 man squad for the Sri Lankan series it should be Wicket Keeper: Paine Fast bowlers: Cummins, Starc, J. Richardson and Tremain Spinner: Lyon Batsmen: Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Patterson, Maxwell, Wade, Handscomb. Starc stays because he is a left armer, but maybe still not play. I've always liked a left armer, as everything about them is a different perspective. This is also why I prefer a leftie finger spinner opposite Lyon, compared to a right wrist spinner. The dynamics are just different.
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+x+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match and the series. Will only be polishing over the cracks. The test match is a draw, there will be very little play, if any at all, and even our weak batting will not lose. So without any FC cricket between now and the first test against Sri Lanka selections need to be made on Shield cricket and performances in the test series. The fake cricket BBL can be completely ignored and so can the one day series against India which is going to happen in between. It is a complete disgrace but it seems our test batsmen and contenders to play test cricket are going to be ruining their mindset but playing one of these two fake cricket events. There should be a round of FC cricket before the Sri Lankan tests. Assuming we name a 13 man squad for the Sri Lankan series it should be Wicket Keeper: Paine Fast bowlers: Cummins, Starc, J. Richardson and Tremain Spinner: Lyon Batsmen: Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Patterson, Maxwell, Wade, Handscomb. Starc stays because he is a left armer, but maybe still not play.
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+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell Agar and Zampa do not deserve to be anywhere near the test team, they have not played well enough in the Sheffield Shield. Test teams need to be selected only based on FC cricket, short cricket should not be considered at all. Agar 1 match 1/69 and 27 runs across 2 innings, poor overall record as well, bowling average 39, batting 25. Not good enough spinner, not good enough batsman. Zampa 1 match 2/175, terrible overall record, 47 bowling average, he is lucky to even be playing FC cricket, I would not be picking him for Siouth Australia, better to go in without a spinner or even Lloyd Pope than Zampa. Pucovski has basically scored two big hundreds and failed almost every other innings. Far to early to play him. Sangha and Philippe have barely proved they are good enough to play Sheffield Shield let alone test cricket. A big no. Renshaw is totally out of form, you just cannot pick a player who is averaging 19 this season, it would be totally wrong. Resting Harris is just plain stupid. He is still adjusting to test cricket and needs to play as many tests as quickly as possible to find out what works and does not work at the level. Getting a century against the Sri Lankans could really set up his test career and the two tests against Sri Lanka are vital for him if he is going to do well in the Ashes.
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+xWill CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series. Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon. Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain Pattinson, Worrall, Winter, Meredith. Choose three quicks from this list. res. batsmen Labu & Maxwell The longer the delay the greater chance we have of saving face by drawing the match.. Will only be polishing over the cracks.
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Will CA stand down our pace trio and give others a chance to state their cases for the Ashes? Fringe batsmen like Renshaw, Burns and Patterson should also be given the series.
Players in mind for the two Tester. Harris/Renshaw/Burns/Labuchagne/White/ one of Philippe,Pucovski, Sangha/ Tremain, J Richardson, Copeland, Boland, Bird.. Could gamble on sheer pace with Riley Meredith. My smokie for the Ashes Nick Winter. Skull O'Keefe says we should take swing bowlers to England. I agree. Others in contention Worrall, Sayers. Rest Harris. has shown sufficient. Rest Lyon.
Ok I will have a crack at my squad: Renshaw Burns Khawaja White Patterson Sangha/Pucovski/Philippe Paine Agar J Richardson Copeland Tremain
Res: Meredith/Pattinson/ Worrall/Winter, Zampa/Ahmed, Labu/Maxwell
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+x+x+x+x+xif I evenly weight career sheild and the past two years of averages it doesn't make the selectors look any better Puckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Smarsh* 49.53 - dump Bruns 47.58 - retain Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Finch* 32.57 - dump C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Renshaw 36.98 - retain Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Ferguson 38.87 ? Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Bailey 35.97 ditto White Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement Neville 33.05 - dump What about Labuchagne? My Indian ratings. Rahul 4/10 Vijay 4/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 6/10 Vihari 5/10 Pant 6/10 Ashwin 7/10 Shami 7/10 Sharma 5/10 Bumrah 8/10 You've rated Kohli 7/10, does this include his rating as a captain. His captaincy I rate 9/10 His captaincy is not that good, he chases boundaries with his field placements. He has set bad fields to the spinners and I think has been far too conservative at times. It is not that hard to captain a team which is superior to the opposition in every facet of the game. So i give his captaincy about 6/10. Overall I give the Indians Rahul 2/10 Vijay 0/10 Agarwal 7/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 5/10 Vihari 4/10 R. Sharma 3/10 Pant 5/10 Umesh Yadav 3/10 I Sharma 7/10 Shami 8/10 Bumrah 9/10 Ashwin 7/10 Jadeja 8/10 Kuldeep Yadav 9/10 - based on one innings but it was excellent. I would give Pant a 7 - he needs to take more catches to get an 8 - but his batting has been excellent...
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+xHow did Ishant get better? He played seasons of country cricket the past years... Pattison has played a season there and tore it up as has renshaw. I hope that gets rewarded
This is what CA should have enforced on our players with an Ashes year ahead. But no dice as CA do not think outside the box. Or under todays regime dont they have the power to force a player to do anything? In an case, given our form the past two years, the player himself, should have opted to make the England pilgrimage. County Cricket starts in April.. wonder how many are going across to get the best Ashes prep of all...and get them out of their "gilded bubble". They are unable to enforce it. They could encourage and not prevent it as they did for Pattinson...
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How did Ishant get better? He played seasons of country cricket the past years... Pattison has played a season there and tore it up as has renshaw. I hope that gets rewarded
This is what CA should have enforced on our players with an Ashes year ahead. But no dice as CA do not think outside the box. Or under todays regime dont they have the power to force a player to do anything? In an case, given our form the past two years, the player himself, should have opted to make the England pilgrimage. County Cricket starts in April.. wonder how many are going across to get the best Ashes prep of all...and get them out of their "gilded bubble".
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+x+xIn other news Steve Smith is going to be captaining the Victorians. It is not April1??? No it is not, but he is playing the Bangladesh fake cricket tournament where he captains the Commilla Victorians. Warner is captaining another team.
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+xIn other news Steve Smith is going to be captaining the Victorians. It is not April1???
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+x+x+x+xif I evenly weight career sheild and the past two years of averages it doesn't make the selectors look any better Puckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Smarsh* 49.53 - dump Bruns 47.58 - retain Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Finch* 32.57 - dump C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Renshaw 36.98 - retain Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Ferguson 38.87 ? Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Bailey 35.97 ditto White Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement Neville 33.05 - dump What about Labuchagne? My Indian ratings. Rahul 4/10 Vijay 4/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 6/10 Vihari 5/10 Pant 6/10 Ashwin 7/10 Shami 7/10 Sharma 5/10 Bumrah 8/10 You've rated Kohli 7/10, does this include his rating as a captain. His captaincy I rate 9/10 His captaincy is not that good, he chases boundaries with his field placements. He has set bad fields to the spinners and I think has been far too conservative at times. It is not that hard to captain a team which is superior to the opposition in every facet of the game. So i give his captaincy about 6/10. Overall I give the Indians Rahul 2/10 Vijay 0/10 Agarwal 7/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 5/10 Vihari 4/10 R. Sharma 3/10 Pant 5/10 Umesh Yadav 3/10 I Sharma 7/10 Shami 8/10 Bumrah 9/10 Ashwin 7/10 Jadeja 8/10 Kuldeep Yadav 9/10 - based on one innings but it was excellent.
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+x+x+x+x+xif I evenly weight career sheild and the past two years of averages it doesn't make the selectors look any better Puckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Smarsh* 49.53 - dump Bruns 47.58 - retain Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Finch* 32.57 - dump C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Renshaw 36.98 - retain Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Ferguson 38.87 ? Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Bailey 35.97 ditto White Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement Neville 33.05 - dump What about Labuchagne? My Indian ratings. Rahul 4/10 Vijay 4/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 6/10 Vihari 5/10 Pant 6/10 Ashwin 7/10 Shami 7/10 Sharma 5/10 Bumrah 8/10 You've rated Kohli 7/10, does this include his rating as a captain. His captaincy I rate 9/10 Thats ok you rate him 9/10 overall if you wish. The rain clouds are coming from the opposite direction today. Plenty of drizzle in them. Dont expect play any time soon.
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+x+x+x+xif I evenly weight career sheild and the past two years of averages it doesn't make the selectors look any better Puckovski 62.65 - retain. Khawaja* 58.79 - retain Smarsh* 49.53 - dump Bruns 47.58 - retain Wade 47.08 - reserve judgement Finch* 32.57 - dump C White 44.23 - retain despite others saying he is too old. Like fine wine is Bear. Ferguson 43.81 - reserve judgment Harris* 42.91 - retain Patterson 41.47 - retain Handscomb* 41.13 reserve judgement Renshaw 36.98 - retain Head* 39.13 - reserve judgement Ferguson 38.87 ? Lehman 36.38 - reserve judgement Bailey 35.97 ditto White Labu* 35.03 - reserve judgement Cartwright 34.73 - reserve judgement Mmarsh* 33.12 - reserve judgement Neville 33.05 - dump What about Labuchagne? My Indian ratings. Rahul 4/10 Vijay 4/10 Pujara 9/10 Kohli 7/10 Rahane 6/10 Vihari 5/10 Pant 6/10 Ashwin 7/10 Shami 7/10 Sharma 5/10 Bumrah 8/10 You've rated Kohli 7/10, does this include his rating as a captain. His captaincy I rate 9/10 Thats ok you rate him 9/10 overall if you wish.
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