I am rather excited by the thought of an incoming visa/marquee - without knowing any more than that.

Thanks Waz!

I gather the Roar Way also means consistency and that the selected coach must share this vision.

Love to see us constantly improve our recruitment for each position or at least match a good player when he departs. It's this detail that will make us a great club again.

So is ‘the Roar way’:
1. Angeball?
2. Anything that wins the double?
3. The ill-disciplined aimless garbage that was apparently ok for the previous 18 months under Aloisi?
I’m genuinely curious.

Ange-ball. Possession based, positive, pressing, kids coming through the system, and winning. Plus at least in the race for the fair play award.

Pourre is no mug. He spends a lot of time with fans both on line and at forums, when he goes to Away games he regularly sits in the away bay with fans.

Aloisi was meant to be a “disciple” of the Ange-way but clearly wasn’t, right from the get go it was through balls for Maclaren to chase right.

I’ve watched the NYL three times this season, and the women’s NTC team in the NPL last winter ... they’re all playing the Ange-way, so why not the first team?

The trick is finding someone who can coach to that method, each coach has their own style so naturally Roar will be limiting their pool ... the best approach is to promote from within imo

Luke DeVere no guarantee to fill big Brisbane Roar defensive void even in time of great need
Marco Monteverde, The Courier-Mail
January 9, 2019 6:55am

Former Socceroos defender Luke DeVere remains no certainty to make his first Brisbane Roar appearance of the season on Friday night despite the club’s centre-back stocks being stretched.

On the outer all season, DeVere is anything but guaranteed even a bench spot for Friday’s clash against Melbourne City at AAMI Park.

That’s despite the struggling Roar’s defensive woes, and the absence of the injured Avraam Papadopoulos (glute) and the suspension of Daniel Bowles, who was sent off in Brisbane’s 4-2 loss to Perth Glory on Sunday at Suncorp Stadium.

The Roar are conceding goals at an alarming rate – 18 in their past seven matches.

DeVere, Jacob Pepper, Aaron Reardon and Connor O’Toole are in contention to fill Brisbane’s two centre-back spots against City.

Usually a left back, O’Toole was used in the centre of defence in the latter stages of last season by then Roar coach John Aloisi.

If O’Toole is again shifted to a central role, it could open the door at left back for Stefan Nigro, who despite being part of Melbourne Victory’s grand final-winning team last season has been rarely used since moving to Brisbane.

Interim Roar coach Darren Davies hasn’t ruled out recalling teenage defender Aaron Reardon to the starting side on Friday despite his forgettable display off the bench against Perth.

Reardon gave away a penalty, scored an own goal and was loose in his marking as the Glory ran riot in scoring three goals in the final 10 minutes.

“The players have rallied around Aaron and he’s got a strong character,” Davies said.

“He’ll be better for that experience.”

Davies confirmed that midfielder Stefan Mauk would miss another match with his ongoing groin problem.

A key off-season recruit, Mauk has made just four A-League appearances for the Roar.

“He’s a big loss for us,” Davies admitted.

Meanwhile, Roar managing director David Pourre and football director Pedj Radinovic leftfor Jakartaon Wednesday to meet with club owners, Indonesian conglomerate the Bakrie Group, for discussions on the appointment of a new coach following Aloisi’s resignation last month.

“We’ll commence a process that goes about identifying the next Brisbane Roar head coach,” Pourre said.

Apart from Davies, others linked to the Roar job include former Mariners boss Paul Okon, Liverpool great Robbie Fowler, ex - Adelaide City coach Damian Mori, NSL great Gary Phillips, former Socceroo Kasey Wehrman, former Brisbane assistant coach Luc Trani, Bentleigh Greens coach John Anastasiadis, Campbelltown City mentor Joe Mullen and ex-Roar defender Karl Dodd, currently the coach of Guam.


https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/luke-devere-no-guarantee-to-fill-big-brisbane-roar-defensive-void-even-in-time-of-great-need/news-story/b99655b0570198183f0d38d0e7069102

The thing I don’t get is this: If ‘the Roar way’ is so important, why was Aloisi allowed to do his own thing (unsuccessfully) for 3 seasons?

I think there’s two very simple answers to that clockwork.

The first is Dobson > Pourre > Cobb > Kingsman > Pourre: too many CEO changes mean the club environment has generally been unstable. Pourre has not been back for a year yet so it’s still not stable.

The second is the coach reporting to the Chairman in Jakarta: the reporting is not unhealthy but Rahim has weak English skills, is Jakarta based, and is part time. Yet he is the only person that can hold the coach accountable.

The club has been an Administrative shambles for 15 years. They got lucky with Ange otherwise we would be 0 titles in 15 years but Ange provided a playing identity that fans loved and others respected - it has to evolve of course but to lose that identity and get a new one based on whoever is head coach is madness.

I feel sorry for the youngie Reardon. Although he was like a rabbit under a spotlight he must have talent to have been given the nod in the first place. Hope the club nurtures him carefully.

Yeah, Reardon also stuffed up for the Petratos goal v Jets so his confidence will be wafer thin at the moment.

Is Pedj an actual TD or more in charge of operational issues. 

Whatever way they turn, I wouldn't mind Davies having an extended run to see what he can do.

It's strange that my two clubs Man Utd and Roar have both sacked their coaches within days of each other and replaced them with an assistant on a temporary basis.

The one big difference is one club is doing well and the other isn't ....to be fair... Man Utd should have always been winning with the cattle they have ...we simply don't have the quality at present .

@ aok

Pedj is operations not a TD.

He’s gone to Jakarta with Pourre today which is an indication of his standing and seniority in the club but his boss would have been JA and now Davies.

On Davies, I agree - unless the perfect candidate comes up there is no rush. The worst case is we don’t make finals and the absolute best case is points somewhere in the mid 30’s (most likely 20’s though)

Having a final shortlist by the end of the season and hiring one of them or even Davies sometime in April/May will be fine for me.

I actually talked with Pourre this morning in regards to a fan forum we have asked for and he said the initial list of potential candidates is almost 40 coaches, which is incredible, and this was the main topic of discussion in Jakarta

Pedj is Football Director not really a TD, he is in charge of all the off field stuff like contracts, making sure that all the rules are followed, club compliance ect, rather than making sure the footballers play a certain way (TD's role). 

we dont really have a club TD, though Drew Sherman is probably closest to it, he would be TD of the academy. I dont know how much say he has through the wider club. 

@ miron

It sux when your second team struggles right lol.

But I’d argue Roar should be competing with the players they’ve got. Muddled coaching has got us where we are with only really one hiring blooper which looks to be mikklesen.

Tagaart has 9 goals in 12 games and more to come, Lopez was great but has gone down with the rest of the team, and all the other signings were fringe players.

The two biggest issues are defence which JA thought he was solid in and an aging midfield which was meant to be bolstered by Mauk whos a friggin walking injury.

Davies got unlucky imo - should have drawn with Sydney and should’ve beat glory. That would have been a fine start ... but that team looks so ill-disciplined itmust be like hurding cats.

John Aloisi was both TD and Head Coach.

It's a strange one because the manager would not really be the true boss of Pedj as Pedj would likely have to tell the manager that he can and cant go after certain players and would have to delegate tasks to the manager. 

it may be an oversight by the club not to have a True TD where the club ladder would look like

board
TD
Mens Coach - Football Director- Womens coach- Acadamy coaches/acadamy TD

the TD would be the guardian of the clubs playing philosophy and all below him would be working to that aim. 

@ sirhcdobo

I think you’re correct with that structure, Aloisi fulfilled both roles but I suspect the TD role was in name only.

I’m not sure if any A League clubs have a true TD though?

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Yup, he was TD. Not sure what input he had in Drew and Mel though.

I know when he first arrived he turfed a lot of the NYL team claiming they weren’t going to be good enough for the HAL. He had to defend some criticism over that at his first fan forum.

I’d like to keep Davies till the end of the season. His objectives should be:
1. Redevelop and embed the style the club is going to play
2. Give game time to promising youth eg Calletti) over aging players (TK).
3. Determine the players we want to keep and those we want to go after (based on the style we are going to play).
Problem is, if we get a new coach now, there will be expectations of improved results and the temptation will be to keep playing average but experienced players.
On Reardon: interesting that despite his blunders he is considered worth keeping. I think Cameron Crestani showed as much promise and was more reliable and less prone to bloopers than Reardon in the few games he played, yet was quickly dumped by the Aloisis. Just another of the youth team talent that went no where in the past 3 years.

If the Possession base style is what they want to go back to i think Okon proved he can implement that philosophy quite rigidly,  i'm not a big fan of his personally but if that's the way we want to play he seems like an obvious choice,  who knows with a more experience squad then CCM gave him he could do well..

I don’t think Okon did himself many favours at Mariners though, it looked like possession for the sake of possession.

It’s a real conundrum for Roar management - Aloisi was a gamble, can they afford to gamble again with someone like Okon?

Can the Roar afford not to take another big gamble?  Ange was one that worked out well.  JA was one that didn't work out so good.

I think one of the factors that lead to Aloisi's downfall came down to the fact that he started trying to be "safe" and chase results ahead of the style of play Brisbane were known for (and that Aloisi himself was an advocate for).  In pursuit of this safety first approach, JA started to recruit seasoned professionals (old f@ckers) that were incapable of delivering the fast pace needed to deliver the Roar style.  Next thing we know, the Roar has the oldest squad in the comp, there is no regeneration of youth, the team plays like a bunch of busted arses (not sure what the collective noun for a many busted arses is - maybe a Roar of Busted Arses??) and the team is the dirtiest in the league.

I say roll the dice a little with the next coach.  Worst case scenario the Roar finish ninth (surely couldn't be worse than CCM) and look for another coach.

what do you blokes think about getting a npl coach? working out quite well for wellington 

Rudan should be our prime candidate IMO.

However to play the Roar way with consistency we need a coach who would see it out long term and that may be best secured with someone who doesn’t get home sick or just using his stint as his career launch pad. Someone that will believe their career is the Roar.

A good local coach would be ideal if possible.

I'd be open to an NPL coach if they we right for the style we want to play, but I'd prefer someone with professional experience.

Few NPL coaches with the resume of Rudan going around. the fox punditry was probably just as important as his stints with SU58 and the national team. Of all the npl coach names that have been raised probably only Mori and perhaps Papas would be ok with me. 

Yeah, I think Rudan is a bit of a one-off. Hopefully the next decade will generate more like him as ex-players go in to coaching though

Hopefully the Roar do look at some of the NPL candidates.  I  think Rudan wasn't even the best coach running around the NPL before his move to the Nix

I don't think a gamble on an NPL coach is a goer. Agreed Rudan probably a one off.

If it was up to me I'd say stick with Davies unless there's a seasoned and proven pro genuinely interested.

Davies has made a mark already. Agreed probably unlucky to some degree. It's a symptom of....oh no here we go again, we're gonna lose.

We all know teams getuaed to winning and also losing.

We've had a team that was used to winning and now we have a team used to losing.

Challenge for Davies or whoever is to change that mentality.