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Imo 2 or 3 a-league sides might survive in the Scottish league.
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I think Mooy will see out the year at Huddersfield. No point moving when you’re not fit. He’ll wait and see where Wagner ends up and possibly follow him.
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+xMooy to Bournemouth or Brighton for me. Would be epic to see him with Ryan for a couple of seasons. The West Ham link may spark up again. Everton would be cool. I actually think Watford would be a decent move. They've had their shit together for the last couple of years, punch above their weight, just outside of London as well. Outside of the EPL: a Dortmund, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen, Leipzig, Lazio, Roma, Inter, Sevilla, Valencia, Lille, Monaco, type would be cool. He has a British passport and a young family, so I highly doubt he's leaving the UK. I doubt Rangers have the money for him and I'd hate the move, but they'd be my smokey for him tbh.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHe’s a winger. Hardly at fault for losing 7-0 to one of the best teams in the world.Nice result for Lyden What's being a winger got to do with a 7 nil loss? The point is he is a mediocre player in a poor team at a poor level. Rotherham is mid A league level Championship > A-League. There's different levels within the championship though. Rotherham are a far cry from Leeds and Middlesbrough. English players and coaches who have come to oz have all consistently said the same thing and that is that the A league is equivalent to the bottom of the championship, top of league 1. Adam Le Fondre played for a relegation battling club (like Rotherham) last season and got 7 goals in 35 games... They released him a year early from his contract as soon as they could find someone to take him off their hands... He comes here and scores a goal a game. So you want to base a leagues level off one example? La liga players have come here and struggled. Romario wasn't great here ended up going back to flamengo afterwards and had a good goalscoring return. Juninho was good here but not brilliant only played every second game. Lazarides came here and was shit. Kisnorbo was Leeds pots came here only a couple of seasons later and was average. Emerton scored 2 goals against Manchester United the next season was playing averagely for syndey fc. I could go on and on. I stand by bottom my top of championshio bottom of league 1 comparison. Victory atm for instance have 2 guys playing for them that just scored for good nations at the world cup. Troisi was offered a contract at Brighton last season. Deng is quality barbarouses was playing for pannathanaikos and some other quality players. I still remember it was you Benjamin saying mooy wasn't going to make it to prem went he went over to Huddersfield. I believe you underrate the a league big time. I'm not saying the standard is brilliant btw Negative career trajectories are expected as players age... The interesting thing with players coming here is that so many of seem to get much better as they get older. By and large, footballers don't age like wine. Juninho was 34 and injured when he came here. His best days were well behind him. Emerton was 32 and looked tired when he was playing here. Again, best days behind him. Meanwhile - talking up one of the A-League's best sides, you can mention Honda and Toivenen, then struggle through the likes of: Troisi - because he was linked to Brighton, but either wasn't offered a deal, or turned the deal down in order to play in the A-League. In other words, either Brighton didn't rare him highly enough, or he chose the A-League over the EPL. Either way, he's not playing there so it's impossible to judge. Deng - who has potential - but - during his season in the Dutch 2nd division he was only used 5 times in a 38 game season, and was rated so highly that they made no attempt to sign him permanently. Barbarouses - who played one season for a mid-table clubs in Greece, only played in 10 league games (5 as sub, 3 subbed off), failed to score, and when he was available on a free transfer apparently wasn't offered a deal. Antonis - brief unsuccessful stops in Greece and Holland, an aborted stay in Italy... Seems like none of these clubs felt he was up to their standard. I believe you over-rate the A-League if you think a team consisting of 2 quality imports and four lads who 'might' be good enough (but have all previously failed to impress), would be competitive in a brutal league like the Championship... With regard to Mooy - you're quite correct. I doubted that the lad had the legs to play 40-45 games a season at pace. You're incorrect in saying that I didn't think he would make in the EPL - it's worse than that - I didn't think he had the legs for the Championship. He proved me wrong, and I continue to be happy he did so. But his success over there still matches what I've been talking about on this thread... He was excellent at Melbourne City - a different level to the rest of the league - something like a dozen goals and twice as many assists in one season... That's the level required to go from this league to the Championship or above overseas. And once more - saying the A-League isn't at the level of the Championship is in no way talking down the A-League. Not enough teams, not enough money, not enough playing options, and not enough emphasis on developing players, plus giving other leagues a hundred year head-start means that we are going to be playing catch-up for a while yet.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHe’s a winger. Hardly at fault for losing 7-0 to one of the best teams in the world.Nice result for Lyden What's being a winger got to do with a 7 nil loss? The point is he is a mediocre player in a poor team at a poor level. Rotherham is mid A league level Championship > A-League. There's different levels within the championship though. Rotherham are a far cry from Leeds and Middlesbrough. English players and coaches who have come to oz have all consistently said the same thing and that is that the A league is equivalent to the bottom of the championship, top of league 1. Adam Le Fondre played for a relegation battling club (like Rotherham) last season and got 7 goals in 35 games... They released him a year early from his contract as soon as they could find someone to take him off their hands... He comes here and scores a goal a game. So you want to base a leagues level off one example? La liga players have come here and struggled. Romario wasn't great here ended up going back to flamengo afterwards and had a good goalscoring return. Juninho was good here but not brilliant only played every second game. Lazarides came here and was shit. Kisnorbo was Leeds pots came here only a couple of seasons later and was average. Emerton scored 2 goals against Manchester United the next season was playing averagely for syndey fc. I could go on and on. I stand by bottom my top of championshio bottom of league 1 comparison. Victory atm for instance have 2 guys playing for them that just scored for good nations at the world cup. Troisi was offered a contract at Brighton last season. Deng is quality barbarouses was playing for pannathanaikos and some other quality players. I still remember it was you Benjamin saying mooy wasn't going to make it to prem went he went over to Huddersfield. I believe you underrate the a league big time. I'm not saying the standard is brilliant btw Negative career trajectories are expected as players age... The interesting thing with players coming here is that so many of seem to get much better as they get older. By and large, footballers don't age like wine. Juninho was 34 and injured when he came here. His best days were well behind him. Emerton was 32 and looked tired when he was playing here. Again, best days behind him. Meanwhile - talking up one of the A-League's best sides, you can mention Honda and Toivenen, then struggle through the likes of: Troisi - because he was linked to Brighton, but either wasn't offered a deal, or turned the deal down in order to play in the A-League. In other words, either Brighton didn't rare him highly enough, or he chose the A-League over the EPL. Either way, he's not playing there so it's impossible to judge. Deng - who has potential - but - during his season in the Dutch 2nd division he was only used 5 times in a 38 game season, and was rated so highly that they made no attempt to sign him permanently. Barbarouses - who played one season for a mid-table clubs in Greece, only played in 10 league games (5 as sub, 3 subbed off), failed to score, and when he was available on a free transfer apparently wasn't offered a deal. Antonis - brief unsuccessful stops in Greece and Holland, an aborted stay in Italy... Seems like none of these clubs felt he was up to their standard. I believe you over-rate the A-League if you think a team consisting of 2 quality imports and four lads who 'might' be good enough (but have all previously failed to impress), would be competitive in a brutal league like the Championship... With regard to Mooy - you're quite correct. I doubted that the lad had the legs to play 40-45 games a season at pace. You're incorrect in saying that I didn't think he would make in the EPL - it's worse than that - I didn't think he had the legs for the Championship. He proved me wrong, and I continue to be happy he did so. But his success over there still matches what I've been talking about on this thread... He was excellent at Melbourne City - a different level to the rest of the league - something like a dozen goals and twice as many assists in one season... That's the level required to go from this league to the Championship or above overseas. And once more - saying the A-League isn't at the level of the Championship is in no way talking down the A-League. Not enough teams, not enough money, not enough playing options, and not enough emphasis on developing players, plus giving other leagues a hundred year head-start means that we are going to be playing catch-up for a while yet. This! couldn't agree more Benjamin.
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+xI think Mooy will see out the year at Huddersfield. No point moving when you’re not fit. He’ll wait and see where Wagner ends up and possibly follow him. Can't see too many clubs willing to sign him in this window whilst he's injured - which means he's at Huddersfield until the end of the season. Being one of the best players in a bad side isn't a bad thing for marketing purposes. If he stays in England he'd be welcome at pretty much any team outside the top 6. Would depend on the fee required - Newcastle would defo take him if he was cheap because Rafa loves him.
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https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-greats-where-are-they-now-josip-skokoOn HAL v Europe, Josip Skoko said this: “You are not really looked after in Europe … you’re a foreigner and you have to work twice as hard and be twice as good as the locals, wherever you go, just to get into the team,” https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-greats-where-are-they-now-josip-skokoMakes sense that teams would favour the locals so I'm inclined to believe him. Just another factor to take into account when trying to compare.
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Has Rafa come out and said he loves Mooy? I must have missed that.
Newcastle wouldn’t be too bad a move if they stay up and can build.
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+x+xNot your best work here, Mr Benjamin... Matter of opinion Mr Bowden... The facts appear to support the argument over and over again though... Foreign players who have performed 'okay' in decent leagues overseas are capable of being very good over here, but only our best make an impression in the same foreign leagues. If someone compares two competitions and claims they are the same level, but evidence suggests otherwise, why pretend? Once again, I only piped up on this thread when someone dismissed Ryan Williams' ability on the grounds that he was only playing at the bottom of the Championship - and on another thread where it was suggested that A-League clubs would be competitive in the Championship (later revised to the top 3 A-League clubs would be competitive, which is still a dubious claim). To the lad who said I was basing my theory on a single player - I listed half a dozen elsewhere, and here's another... Andy Keogh - 31 goals in 233 games at Championship level, 44 goals in his first 100 A-League games... Like O'Donovan and Berisha, was more of a winger over there, moved inside over here because... Less competition for striking places - because the quality of players is lower. Dismissing Ryan Williams because he is MEDIOCRE in a bottom of the league championship team. Do you honestly believe ryan williams is socceroos material?? He is a battler. Re the standard, go back through this thread and you'll see I've consistently stated bottom on the champ, top of league 1.
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+x+xwould mooy be a good fit for the wolves or another top 12 team? He would fit Wolves well, but would have a tough time displacing Neves/Moutinho in their lineup. I would love to see him move outside England, I reckon he would kill it in Italy. Lol. So he doesn't fit wolves well?!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHe’s a winger. Hardly at fault for losing 7-0 to one of the best teams in the world.Nice result for Lyden What's being a winger got to do with a 7 nil loss? The point is he is a mediocre player in a poor team at a poor level. Rotherham is mid A league level Championship > A-League. There's different levels within the championship though. Rotherham are a far cry from Leeds and Middlesbrough. English players and coaches who have come to oz have all consistently said the same thing and that is that the A league is equivalent to the bottom of the championship, top of league 1. Adam Le Fondre played for a relegation battling club (like Rotherham) last season and got 7 goals in 35 games... They released him a year early from his contract as soon as they could find someone to take him off their hands... He comes here and scores a goal a game. So you want to base a leagues level off one example? La liga players have come here and struggled. Romario wasn't great here ended up going back to flamengo afterwards and had a good goalscoring return. Juninho was good here but not brilliant only played every second game. Lazarides came here and was shit. Kisnorbo was Leeds pots came here only a couple of seasons later and was average. Emerton scored 2 goals against Manchester United the next season was playing averagely for syndey fc. I could go on and on. I stand by bottom my top of championshio bottom of league 1 comparison. Victory atm for instance have 2 guys playing for them that just scored for good nations at the world cup. Troisi was offered a contract at Brighton last season. Deng is quality barbarouses was playing for pannathanaikos and some other quality players. I still remember it was you Benjamin saying mooy wasn't going to make it to prem went he went over to Huddersfield. I believe you underrate the a league big time. I'm not saying the standard is brilliant btw Negative career trajectories are expected as players age... The interesting thing with players coming here is that so many of seem to get much better as they get older. By and large, footballers don't age like wine. Juninho was 34 and injured when he came here. His best days were well behind him. Emerton was 32 and looked tired when he was playing here. Again, best days behind him. Meanwhile - talking up one of the A-League's best sides, you can mention Honda and Toivenen, then struggle through the likes of: Troisi - because he was linked to Brighton, but either wasn't offered a deal, or turned the deal down in order to play in the A-League. In other words, either Brighton didn't rare him highly enough, or he chose the A-League over the EPL. Either way, he's not playing there so it's impossible to judge. Deng - who has potential - but - during his season in the Dutch 2nd division he was only used 5 times in a 38 game season, and was rated so highly that they made no attempt to sign him permanently. Barbarouses - who played one season for a mid-table clubs in Greece, only played in 10 league games (5 as sub, 3 subbed off), failed to score, and when he was available on a free transfer apparently wasn't offered a deal. Antonis - brief unsuccessful stops in Greece and Holland, an aborted stay in Italy... Seems like none of these clubs felt he was up to their standard. I believe you over-rate the A-League if you think a team consisting of 2 quality imports and four lads who 'might' be good enough (but have all previously failed to impress), would be competitive in a brutal league like the Championship... With regard to Mooy - you're quite correct. I doubted that the lad had the legs to play 40-45 games a season at pace. You're incorrect in saying that I didn't think he would make in the EPL - it's worse than that - I didn't think he had the legs for the Championship. He proved me wrong, and I continue to be happy he did so. But his success over there still matches what I've been talking about on this thread... He was excellent at Melbourne City - a different level to the rest of the league - something like a dozen goals and twice as many assists in one season... That's the level required to go from this league to the Championship or above overseas. And once more - saying the A-League isn't at the level of the Championship is in no way talking down the A-League. Not enough teams, not enough money, not enough playing options, and not enough emphasis on developing players, plus giving other leagues a hundred year head-start means that we are going to be playing catch-up for a while yet. Don't most european leagues require teams to have a certain number of home grown players? Therefore the Australians have to be one of the best on the team to even get played as dr. bellows said above
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Vadgner gone. Hmmm, that's probably a better situation for Mooy regarding his future. Can see him leaving now. I hope he has a stable situation in his next move. Hudders never really seemed to get moving. Blame the signing department for signing so many miserable players. Hard to see them staying up when they've now installed the U23s manager who has relatively no experience. Mark Hudson Time to bail
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City Sam
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+xVadgner gone. Hmmm, that's probably a better situation for Mooy regarding his future. Can see him leaving now. I hope he has a stable situation in his next move. Hudders never really seemed to get moving. Blame the signing department for signing so many miserable players. Hard to see them staying up when they've now installed the U23s manager who has relatively no experience. Mark Hudson Time to bail They'll be in League 1 in 2 years
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city need another midfielder.. I mean the buy back clause would probably be cheap as haha
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How’s brad smith going in mls?
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Anthony Carter has gone to mid table top tier Romanian club FC Botoşani on loan
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+xAnthony Carter has gone to mid table top tier Romanian club FC Botoşani on loan Nice
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+xHow’s brad smith going in mls? Off season in the MLS now. Assuming he has returned to Bournemouth (not sure on the loan deal). MLS starts again in March.
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+x+xHow’s brad smith going in mls? Off season in the MLS now. Assuming he has returned to Bournemouth (not sure on the loan deal). MLS starts again in March. i'm insulted he chose the mls over the a league personally
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+x+xAnthony Carter has gone to mid table top tier Romanian club FC Botoşani on loan Nice Is this a good loan? Genuine question as I dont know anything about Romanian Football and how it compares to Portugese 2nd division. Carter did play for the current top placed Romanian team Cluj in 2013-2015 - a few sub appearances. He is 24 so I guess anywhere where he can get regular football is the important thing. As a striker that has shown some promise (albeit mainly in low level Portugese leagues) we really need him to keep improving and getting better opportunities if he is one day to be useful for the national team.
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+x+x+xAnthony Carter has gone to mid table top tier Romanian club FC Botoşani on loan Nice Is this a good loan? Genuine question as I dont know anything about Romanian Football and how it compares to Portugese 2nd division. Carter did play for the current top placed Romanian team Cluj in 2013-2015 - a few sub appearances. He is 24 so I guess anywhere where he can get regular football is the important thing. As a striker that has shown some promise (albeit mainly in low level Portugese leagues) we really need him to keep improving and getting better opportunities if he is one day to be useful for the national team. Carter just returned from injury. He was out since August 2018. An U23's competition started in Portugal this season and he was moved into that team, not the Benfica B team playing in the second tier.
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Just messaged Anthony Carter. He is not going on loan to Romania. He has played about 30 minutes as a sub for Benfica U23’s as he regains fitness after returning from his ACL injury.
Somebody mentioned Kosta Sparta. He was playing juniors at Reading for a few seasons. Limited opportunities so he moved to AFC Wimbledon on a senior contract last July. He too was returning from injury via their youth/development side. Going ok there, but would be expected to push for the seniors over the next few months.
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was only a matter of time
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Pasquali made the right call moving into a more defensive role, all our attackers get injured. They are cursed
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We’re cursed.
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'They have been very influential for us, I’ve been impressed with both of them'.
Read what Paul Robinson has to say about Cameron McGilp and Michael Luyambula, after the pair extended their Under-23s contracts.
https://www.bcfc.com/news/articles/2019/paul-robinson-on-the-influence-and-character-of-two-emerging-under-23s-players/
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Folami out for season. Damn.
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Elder started Jordan Holmes on loan at St. Mirren.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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