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+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. Sounds rough. Sorry to hear you're struggling.
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+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. Heal up soon mate.
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WGMG- It could be mere coincidence, but since I updated my operating system to macOS Mojave a couple of months ago: - The operating speed of my laptop has slowed right down. To the point where I fear opening any new folder or clicking on pretty much anything (new tab, close/ minimisw window etc), in the likliehood it will summon the coloured spinning wheel and cause my laptop to act like it's having a seizure for the next 30 seconds or so. It's quite disruptive to the mental and creative 'flow' when I'm in the middle of working - iMovie has ceased to open. So I'm unable to look at clips I've created in the past, or edit and upload new video content in the meantime - Something in Word has changed, because I used to have my business logo as a faint watermark on all the invoices/ proposals I sent to clients- but now it's too bold and distracting behind the text, even when I choose to make the logo transparent or edit the settings of the original logo image to give it a more washed-out look. It true I have uploaded a few gigs of video content since the last update- but I've also deleted an equal amount of gigs' worth of old clips/ images in their place. It shouldn't make a difference in that regard. Each day when I sit down, I keep hoping there'll be a new operating system update that (hopefully) gets rid of these bugs- but the only update on offer at the moment is for an app that I never use anyway...
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WGMG: Kids dying at music festivals. -PB
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+xWGMG: Kids dying at music festivals. -PB This is why pill testing needs to become legal.
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+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. Get well soon
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+x+xWGMG: Kids dying at music festivals. -PB This is why pill testing needs to become legal. Yup, meanwhile dinosaurs like Gladys will sit by and do fuck all as kids kill themselves. -PB
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+x+x+xWGMG: Kids dying at music festivals. -PB This is why pill testing needs to become legal. Yup, meanwhile dinosaurs like Gladys will sit by and do fuck all as kids kill themselves. -PB This government have done everything they can do to turn Sydney into the town in Footloose. There are sniffer dogs at the train station where I work at least once a week, you can't buy takeaway alcohol past 11pm and people are being violently arrested for holding signs with swear words on them.
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WGMG - its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us.
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+xWGMG - its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us. Yeah you're right, let's just stop teaching kids about safe sex in schools. When teen pregnancies and STDs rise, we can just throw our hands up in the air and say "ah well they should've made better choices" What an obscenely stupid take
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That’s a fair enough criticism above ^^
But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat
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+xWGMG - its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us. Never taken drugs in your life I take it?
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+x+xWGMG - its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us. Never taken drugs in your life I take it? ^^^ some people are very naive about the issue . They rather keep their heads in the sand and say don't take drugs blah blah blah . But they don't see the hypocrisy when someone drinks or smokes and dies from it.
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+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there?
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I went to my share of festivals back in the day and took pills. I also drove Uber for 2 years as a side hustle. If I had kids, I'd be way more concerned about them everytime they drove or rode in the car with friends driving than going to a festival and dropping E. Gladys strikes me as the kind of person who got blind drunk once at 19, didn't enjoy the experience, hasn't got drunk ever again and can't understand how the rest of the population didn't make the same decision as her. People like her and Nicola Roxon should be deported to North Korea.
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No, I’d be happier and safer there was no pills there at all
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+xNo, I’d be happier and safer there was no pills there at all Never going to happen, which is why testing is so important.
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+xNo, I’d be happier and safer there was no pills there at all NSW police have been denying entry to festival goers if a dog sits down in front of them despite not even carrying drugs. This is despite studies showing dogs get it wrong 2/3 of the time. How does that fit into the "just don't do drugs" narrative?
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I never said anything about dogs.
If a sniffer dog sits, they should be being searched before being barred entry
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+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us.
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+xI never said anything about dogs.If a sniffer dog sits, they should be being searched before being barred entry They searched them alright. And then they issued 6 month banning notices from Olympic park despite not finding anything.
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+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility.
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I heard a quote once - "choices are a function of options, and options are a function of environment". If we provide an optimal environment for kids (aiding them in making educated choices by providing pill testing), then less of them are going to die. That's all it's about - giving people the tools necessary to make informed choices so something as mundane as popping a pinger at a music festival doesn't lead to someone dying.
I don't see how there can be any real argument against it - unless of course you believe the kids who have died somehow deserved it?
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+xI don't see how there can be any real argument against it - unless of course you believe the kids who have died somehow deserved it? Seems to be a lot of the "no sympathy" type comments on social media so I think for some they do feel that way, which is downright disgusting considering we are talking about teenagers who have died in some instances. Who can honestly claim they didn't do reckless or stupid things at 18?
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+x+xI don't see how there can be any real argument against it - unless of course you believe the kids who have died somehow deserved it? Seems to be a lot of the "no sympathy" type comments on social media so I think for some they do feel that way, which is downright disgusting considering we are talking about teenagers who have died in some instances. Who can honestly claim they didn't do reckless or stupid things at 18? A lot actually. But they see it as I did so No one should do anything reckless
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+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People.
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WRGMG: Professional contacts who ad me on Fb, but then don't seem half as interested in promoting their business as they do in filling my feed with their preaching on why their particular political social ideology is correct and everybody else is unenlightened or some kind of menace to society. It's their loss, and they quickly get unfollowed- but the whole thing feels a bit disingenuous. Like why did they ad me? I barely post anything on my wall these days and I have a separate business account for professional stuff.
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Wgmg: miscaculating j my pay after being on break for 3 weeks . Bills need to be paid
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+x+xI don't see how there can be any real argument against it - unless of course you believe the kids who have died somehow deserved it? Seems to be a lot of the "no sympathy" type comments on social media so I think for some they do feel that way, which is downright disgusting considering we are talking about teenagers who have died in some instances. Who can honestly claim they didn't do reckless or stupid things at 18? This. We all do dumb shit, especially when we're 18. I don't get how anyone could be against pill testing which saves lives.
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+x+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People. Yep. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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