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bettega
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seriously?
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southmelb
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What begins? The aflw will rate better and thats about it.
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+xWhat begins? The aflw will rate better and thats about it. In Melbourne. For some matches they were in the 100s in NSW.
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+x+xWhat begins? The aflw will rate better and thats about it. In Melbourne. For some matches they were in the 100s in NSW. although 100k in ratings is pretty good
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Hundreds as in 235 viewers in NSW not 235,000
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+xWhat begins? The aflw will rate better and thats about it. For a sport that has a 6 months off season & has no other competitions anywhere in the world, no wonder they gagging for some action, any action. But I can tell you it won't rate in Sydney, thankfully.
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Aflw will rate better in Victoria, SA and WA. There's a big culture difference in NSW and QLD tbh
It's like the rest of Brazil ( samba inherited) vs rio grande de sul ( similar to Uruguay and Argentina ) they even called for independence from Brazil a few years ago.
Look at Grêmio and inter they fans chant like Barra bravas while the rest of Brazil and that samba jazzy feel to their chants
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Oh, this thread again.
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Start the NBL too. And Lawn Bowls etc.
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We really need to stop looking at what other codes are doing and direct our energy towards our own game. None of the other major codes have the same major problem that the HAL has. The problem is the fact that if a person likes Aussie Rules then they follow the AFL or AFLW or VFL or all of the above. Same goes for rugby and the NRL. However with the HAL, only a very small percentage of people who like football actually follow the HAL or NPL. That's the problem that needs addressing. People either like football or they don't, we should be focusing on attracting the people that already like football.
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+xWe really need to stop looking at what other codes are doing and direct our energy towards our own game. None of the other major codes have the same major problem that the HAL has. The problem is the fact that if a person likes Aussie Rules then they follow the AFL or AFLW or VFL or all of the above. Same goes for rugby and the NRL. However with the HAL, only a very small percentage of people who like football actually follow the HAL or NPL. That's the problem that needs addressing. People either like football or they don't, we should be focusing on attracting the people that already like football. The day FFA & the State Feds finally cotton onto this'll be the first day of Australian football's golden years to come.
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Football is the biggest sport in Sydney I know is sounds wrong because of thugby Ligue but the sport has had a rich background in these parts the success of Marconi and the Socceroos that have come out of western Sydney to play in big leagues in Europe.
And then the eventual upbringing of The Western Sydney Wanderers FC but the downfall of rugby league in Sydney has given football an advantage of building for the future. Football dominates the school sports and sport in whole of Sydney.
One day we will become the countries main sport but it's starts off with grassroots that's the important bit
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+xFootball is the biggest sport in Sydney I know is sounds wrong because of thugby Ligue but the sport has had a rich background in these parts the success of Marconi and the Socceroos that have come out of western Sydney to play in big leagues in Europe.And then the eventual upbringing of The Western Sydney Wanderers FC but the downfall of rugby league in Sydney has given football an advantage of building for the future. Football dominates the school sports and sport in whole of Sydney.One day we will become the countries main sport but it's starts off with grassroots that's the important bit I guess this is why WSW boasts national ratings in the millions and packs out stadiums wherever it goes. 
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+x+xFootball is the biggest sport in Sydney I know is sounds wrong because of thugby Ligue but the sport has had a rich background in these parts the success of Marconi and the Socceroos that have come out of western Sydney to play in big leagues in Europe.And then the eventual upbringing of The Western Sydney Wanderers FC but the downfall of rugby league in Sydney has given football an advantage of building for the future. Football dominates the school sports and sport in whole of Sydney.One day we will become the countries main sport but it's starts off with grassroots that's the important bit I guess this is why WSW boasts national ratings in the millions and packs out stadiums wherever it goes. Its why only few years ago with world cup qualifying matches and high profile tours by Arsenal football filled ANZ stadium 4 times. Repeat 4 times in one year. Something that deluded overated overhyped pastime from down south has still NEVER achieved once. Not that you'll hear about that on & or read it in the Herald...
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+xFootball is the biggest sport in Sydney I know is sounds wrong because of thugby Ligue but the sport has had a rich background in these parts the success of Marconi and the Socceroos that have come out of western Sydney to play in big leagues in Europe.And then the eventual upbringing of The Western Sydney Wanderers FC but the downfall of rugby league in Sydney has given football an advantage of building for the future. Football dominates the school sports and sport in whole of Sydney.One day we will become the countries main sport but it's starts off with grassroots that's the important bit yet MVFC has the biggest crowds year in and year out? there are more actually football fans in Victoria then any other state the crowds both the HAL and Socceroos kills any other states attendance the problem is most of those fans follow AFL as well due to the massive push in the media to support it and massive push AGAINST football
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+x+xFootball is the biggest sport in Sydney I know is sounds wrong because of thugby Ligue but the sport has had a rich background in these parts the success of Marconi and the Socceroos that have come out of western Sydney to play in big leagues in Europe.And then the eventual upbringing of The Western Sydney Wanderers FC but the downfall of rugby league in Sydney has given football an advantage of building for the future. Football dominates the school sports and sport in whole of Sydney.One day we will become the countries main sport but it's starts off with grassroots that's the important bit yet MVFC has the biggest crowds year in and year out? there are more actually football fans in Victoria then any other state the crowds both the HAL and Socceroos kills any other states attendance the problem is most of those fans follow AFL as well due to the massive push in the media to support it and massive push AGAINST football This is very true we look foot in Victoria but the Culture is very much AFL esp in cities like Geelong the worst thing the FFA did was start Victoria with only one side
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The way 7 promoes the AWFL at every given opportunity in Melbourne you're think it's the start of the World Cup. Even then I don't think there's as much promotion!!!
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WAFL is as WAFL does! Do people seriously care?
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And this why the sport is the way it is with numpties like Footballer oh well I have nothing better to do so why don't I just put someone down.
You can thank the British for the way Australia is there the ones that brought cricket over which then transpired to gayfl.
Anyway maybe I should of just stayed in São Paulo when I had the chance so I don't have to listen to the bullshit that happens in this dumbfuck of a country
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+xAnd this why the sport is the way it is with numpties like Footballer oh well I have nothing better to do so why don't I just put someone down.You can thank the British for the way Australia is there the ones that brought cricket over which then transpired to gayfl.Anyway maybe I should of just stayed in São Paulo when I had the chance so I don't have to listen to the bullshit that happens in this dumbfuck of a country relax precious. But you look like a 'dumbfuck' when you claim WSW is some sort of footballing powerhouse and theyre getting sub-10k crowds and national ratings of 20-30k.
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bettega
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+x+xAnd this why the sport is the way it is with numpties like Footballer oh well I have nothing better to do so why don't I just put someone down.You can thank the British for the way Australia is there the ones that brought cricket over which then transpired to gayfl.Anyway maybe I should of just stayed in São Paulo when I had the chance so I don't have to listen to the bullshit that happens in this dumbfuck of a country relax precious. But you look like a 'dumbfuck' when you claim WSW is some sort of footballing powerhouse and theyre getting sub-10k crowds and national ratings of 20-30k. don't forget the streaming numbers
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+xAnd this why the sport is the way it is with numpties like Footballer oh well I have nothing better to do so why don't I just put someone down.You can thank the British for the way Australia is there the ones that brought cricket over which then transpired to gayfl.Anyway maybe I should of just stayed in São Paulo when I had the chance so I don't have to listen to the bullshit that happens in this dumbfuck of a country Maybe you should reconsider staying in this dumbfuck country?
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Anyway maybe they Dutch shoudl of colonised Australia maybe it will all be a different story
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well Scott Morrison did announce yesterday another $15 million for the AFLW (brisbane lions training facility, which I'm sure the men will use as well). imagine what the W-League could do with that.
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+xwell Scott Morrison did announce yesterday another $15 million for the AFLW (brisbane lions training facility, which I'm sure the men will use as well). imagine what the W-League could do with that. what a waste
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+x+xwell Scott Morrison did announce yesterday another $15 million for the AFLW (brisbane lions training facility, which I'm sure the men will use as well). imagine what the W-League could do with that. what a waste a disgrace
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+x+xwell Scott Morrison did announce yesterday another $15 million for the AFLW (brisbane lions training facility, which I'm sure the men will use as well). imagine what the W-League could do with that. what a waste Wouldnt worry about it, its a pre election promise and a poor one at that, itll be gone as soon as he is
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We've picked up nternational interest aswell from Saudi Arabia and Japan. So I don't know what I said to make you think I'm preferring WSW as a powerhouse lol.
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I'm born here lol but I have a italian passport and Brazilian one aswell so.... Only reason I Called this country ' dumbfuck' is because of the people running it and because of the afl and cricket loving tossers that give football no respect. As I said I could happily go back to Brazil or Italy but I don't intend too. As I'm not in the financial status or situation to do so.
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+xI'm born here lol but I have a italian passport and Brazilian one aswell so.... Only reason I Called this country ' dumbfuck' is because of the people running it and because of the afl and cricket loving tossers that give football no respect. As I said I could happily go back to Brazil or Italy but I don't intend too. As I'm not in the financial status or situation to do so. So you're staying in this "dumbfuck" country because you're too broke to afford tickets to move to Brazil or Italy? And this country is a "dumbfuck"??
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Airfare ain't cheap and I'm happy staying in western Sydney I'm born here why would I move Brazil and Australia are practically the same we both wear thongs our countries are hot as Fuck and we both have chocolate cigarettes snacks hehe both coat ores have huge tourist attractions rio Copacabana and Sydney harbour and Bondi. And we both love our sport, Meh may aswell live in both countries...😂
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Went to Dorrien Gardens (Perth Italia) on Friday for a sundowner game between WLeague teams Perth Glory and Melbourne Victory, great night and game as well.
The standard in womens football (soccer) is great to see especially with each team allowed up to 3-4 imports. The grandstand was full and every part of the perimeter fence was taken (standing room) Foxtel promised to telecast every game live but they don't and this one wasn't either. Tuned into fox this morning and they're showing every AFLW game live one after the other, and very convenient of them to start their season while WLeague finals are about to commence.
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+xFoxtel promised to telecast every game live but they don't and this one wasn't either I was confused by this claim also but I think the unscreened games can be streamed form their website
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-I live in melbourne I have seen more more marketing in the 2 weeks leading up to the AFLW then the enter history of the HAL and W-league combined...
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Afl is an embarrassment to Australia China doesnt want it
But tbh I have a mate who lives in Melbourne and he says that football is big but not as big as it is in western Sydney. West Sydney is the heartland of football that's what he told me he said its big in Melbourne but not as big as it is in west Sydney.
Melbourne got its own problems maybe they should fix their African gang problem like we did here in Sydney
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+xAfl is an embarrassment to Australia China doesnt want itBut tbh I have a mate who lives in Melbourne and he says that football is big but not as big as it is in western Sydney. West Sydney is the heartland of football that's what he told me he said its big in Melbourne but not as big as it is in west Sydney. Melbourne got its own problems maybe they should fix their African gang problem like we did here in Sydney Lol regarding the gang problem that was pretty out of no where Ok ill move to blacktown and get stabbed there? Im sure Western Sydney has a footballing culture due to the fact more people play football in NSW then Melbourne but the proof is in the pudding Socceroos and HAL Melbourne attendance is 'significantly' better Even if you combine City and Victory to WSW and SFC this season Melbourne still have better attendance. Im not defending AFL but Greater Western Sydney Giants averaged 13k last session were as WSW averaged 12k.... heart least of football but there AFL side gets better crowds?
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+x+xAfl is an embarrassment to Australia China doesnt want itBut tbh I have a mate who lives in Melbourne and he says that football is big but not as big as it is in western Sydney. West Sydney is the heartland of football that's what he told me he said its big in Melbourne but not as big as it is in west Sydney. Melbourne got its own problems maybe they should fix their African gang problem like we did here in Sydney Lol regarding the gang problem that was pretty out of no where Ok ill move to blacktown and get stabbed there? Im sure Western Sydney has a footballing culture due to the fact more people play football in NSW then Melbourne but the proof is in the pudding Socceroos and HAL Melbourne attendance is 'significantly' better Even if you combine City and Victory to WSW and SFC this season Melbourne still have better attendance. Im not defending AFL but Greater Western Sydney Giants averaged 13k last session were as WSW averaged 12k.... heart least of football but there AFL side gets better crowds? Both WSW and SFC are playing at temporary home grounds at the moment so its hardly fair to be comparing combined attendances this season or for the two seasons before this because WSW has played at its home ground for 3 seasons now.
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+x+x+xAfl is an embarrassment to Australia China doesnt want itBut tbh I have a mate who lives in Melbourne and he says that football is big but not as big as it is in western Sydney. West Sydney is the heartland of football that's what he told me he said its big in Melbourne but not as big as it is in west Sydney. Melbourne got its own problems maybe they should fix their African gang problem like we did here in Sydney Lol regarding the gang problem that was pretty out of no where Ok ill move to blacktown and get stabbed there? Im sure Western Sydney has a footballing culture due to the fact more people play football in NSW then Melbourne but the proof is in the pudding Socceroos and HAL Melbourne attendance is 'significantly' better Even if you combine City and Victory to WSW and SFC this season Melbourne still have better attendance. Im not defending AFL but Greater Western Sydney Giants averaged 13k last session were as WSW averaged 12k.... heart least of football but there AFL side gets better crowds? Both WSW and SFC are playing at temporary home grounds at the moment so its hardly fair to be comparing combined attendances this season or for the two seasons before this because WSW has played at its home ground for 3 seasons now. im comparing last season...
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It’s hilarious seeing the afl fans saying there were more goals in the a league in some games then In aflw
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To be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ...
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+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... In the previous years they would start off with carlton v collingwood which i think would get around 24k...cant really judge it until the end as they have held off throwing the bigger games in round 1
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+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get
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+x+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get Last time 3 games were in Melbourne and 1 in Adeliade This time 1 game in Melbourne (on a 40 degree day), 1 in Adelaide, 1 in Geelong, 1 in Tassie and 1 in Brisbane. Attendances down, but the drop isn't like for like.
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+x+x+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get Last time 3 games were in Melbourne and 1 in Adeliade This time 1 game in Melbourne (on a 40 degree day), 1 in Adelaide, 1 in Geelong, 1 in Tassie and 1 in Brisbane. Attendances down, but the drop isn't like for like. There has been no professional AFL game anywhere in the world for 4 months, the AFL fans must be gagging for some action.
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+x+x+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get Last time 3 games were in Melbourne and 1 in Adeliade This time 1 game in Melbourne (on a 40 degree day), 1 in Adelaide, 1 in Geelong, 1 in Tassie and 1 in Brisbane. Attendances down, but the drop isn't like for like. that highlights people outside of melbourne don't really care
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+x+x+x+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get Last time 3 games were in Melbourne and 1 in Adeliade This time 1 game in Melbourne (on a 40 degree day), 1 in Adelaide, 1 in Geelong, 1 in Tassie and 1 in Brisbane. Attendances down, but the drop isn't like for like. that highlights people outside of melbourne don't really care Or they play in smaller stadiums? The adelaide v bulldogs game had 7,800 something but looked full. Hindmarsh had a few hundred less at the same time.
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+x+x+x+x+xTo be honest, I'm pretty surprised by this. Yes, it's only the first round, but ... 36% drop in attendance is pretty big for opening round and how much press they get Last time 3 games were in Melbourne and 1 in Adeliade This time 1 game in Melbourne (on a 40 degree day), 1 in Adelaide, 1 in Geelong, 1 in Tassie and 1 in Brisbane. Attendances down, but the drop isn't like for like. that highlights people outside of melbourne don't really care Or they play in smaller stadiums? The adelaide v bulldogs game had 7,800 something but looked full. Hindmarsh had a few hundred less at the same time. when you have viwers in the 100s outside of melbourne it tells you everything you need to know.
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Femski......yes dead shits running this country but I think you'll find deadshits running Brazil and Italy too.
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Does the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?.
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+xDoes the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?. Just for clarification... AFLW is the national women's Australian rules football competition. WAFL is the West Australian Football League, WA's state league for Australian Rules Football. To answer your question... In terms of how much they get paid to broadcast the league, no. AFLW gets $2.5 million per year. But that's on Channel 7, with all of the cross-media coverage and promotion that goes with it. I dare say that your average punter who doesn't specifically follow either sport is more likely to know when a AFLW match is on than know when a W-League or even an A-League match is.
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The point is, it costs the AFL sweetFA to run the AFLW. It’s almost completely covered by sponsorship.
Same with that gaudy horror show that is AFLX - 100% covered by sponsorship. It doesn’t cost them a zack.
So they can afford to keep doing it
And then they’re making more money off Victory and City who play derby games at the AFL’s stadium.
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+x+xDoes the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?. Just for clarification... AFLW is the national women's Australian rules football competition. WAFL is the West Australian Football League, WA's state league for Australian Rules Football. To answer your question... In terms of how much they get paid to broadcast the league, no. AFLW gets $2.5 million per year. But that's on Channel 7, with all of the cross-media coverage and promotion that goes with it. I dare say that your average punter who doesn't specifically follow either sport is more likely to know when a AFLW match is on than know when a W-League or even an A-League match is. As for the WAFL - Channel 7 in Perth broadcast all eighteen matches. They had a three year deal with MacDonalds underwriting the $1 million cost which ended this year so the WAFL are looking for a new sponsor.
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+x+x+xDoes the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?. Just for clarification... AFLW is the national women's Australian rules football competition. WAFL is the West Australian Football League, WA's state league for Australian Rules Football. To answer your question... In terms of how much they get paid to broadcast the league, no. AFLW gets $2.5 million per year. But that's on Channel 7, with all of the cross-media coverage and promotion that goes with it. I dare say that your average punter who doesn't specifically follow either sport is more likely to know when a AFLW match is on than know when a W-League or even an A-League match is. As for the WAFL - Channel 7 in Perth broadcast all eighteen matches. They had a three year deal with MacDonalds underwriting the $1 million cost which ended this year so the WAFL are looking for a new sponsor. There's only 18 matches in the WAFL? Do you really mean a match of the week over 18 rounds, or I'm misinformed?
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+x+x+x+xDoes the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?. Just for clarification... AFLW is the national women's Australian rules football competition. WAFL is the West Australian Football League, WA's state league for Australian Rules Football. To answer your question... In terms of how much they get paid to broadcast the league, no. AFLW gets $2.5 million per year. But that's on Channel 7, with all of the cross-media coverage and promotion that goes with it. I dare say that your average punter who doesn't specifically follow either sport is more likely to know when a AFLW match is on than know when a W-League or even an A-League match is. As for the WAFL - Channel 7 in Perth broadcast all eighteen matches. They had a three year deal with MacDonalds underwriting the $1 million cost which ended this year so the WAFL are looking for a new sponsor. There's only 18 matches in the WAFL? Do you really mean a match of the week over 18 rounds, or I'm misinformed? At the moment yes. Nine teams 18 rounds - I can't work out how they get the extra two rounds in. Go figure. New team (West Coast) from this year. BROADCAST FEATURES (For 2017 season) - All clubs will be featured on television by Round 10.
- Each club will have at least 1 x televised home game in the first 13 broadcasts.
- The 4 clubs who receive 2 x televised home games in the first 13 rounds all played finals in 2016.
- Floating fixtures are scheduled between Rounds 18 to 23 to be finalised mid-year based on team performance.
- No WAFL broadcast fixtures will go head to head with AFL content on the 7 Network in 2017.
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+x+x+xDoes the WAFL have a better TV deal then the A-League?. Just for clarification... AFLW is the national women's Australian rules football competition. WAFL is the West Australian Football League, WA's state league for Australian Rules Football. To answer your question... In terms of how much they get paid to broadcast the league, no. AFLW gets $2.5 million per year. But that's on Channel 7, with all of the cross-media coverage and promotion that goes with it. I dare say that your average punter who doesn't specifically follow either sport is more likely to know when a AFLW match is on than know when a W-League or even an A-League match is. As for the WAFL - Channel 7 in Perth broadcast all eighteen matches. They had a three year deal with MacDonalds underwriting the $1 million cost which ended this year so the WAFL are looking for a new sponsor. Optus are taking it over.
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Does anyone know why they only play one quarter in WAFL games?
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Brazil a beutiful country, people say it's bad and. That you'll get robbed your more Lilley to get robbed in the cbd of rio than in the favelas
But tbh nothing will take over Brazil's love for football I hope the many Brazilians who are residing and coming to Australia can bring that culture here. My uncle just got his citizenship down in Blacktown and he is black but he doesn't want to be described as an African more like a negro if anyone calls him African he denies it lol
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So we have deadshits running Brazil but atleast they ain't snowflakes like we have here in Australia
I have not seen one wog been selected prime minster in Australia. It's always Anglos I'm lucky Brazil wasn't found by Anglos.
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AFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad.
It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do.
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+xAFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad. It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do. They get ludicrous funding and sponsorship - lots becaus eit;s PC to do so. The more that's been put in $ wise the more it's fallen. From round one in the beginning crowds and viewers have waned. I can't see them charging ppl as the drop off would be huge
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+xAFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad. It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do. Compared to women soccer players (different games i know) skills are night and day....pick up the ball FFA ffs
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+xAFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad. It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do. it being free might have something to do with it... Also it has been marketed to death, i can honestly see no one coming after the novelty wears off. The AFLW is riding on fans of clubs that are pre-existing. No one really gives a single f*** about the AFLW but many people care about there CLUB ie people care about Geelong F.C so they will go and support the club regardless it is called building a fan base. It is what a suggested the HAL do with the W-league the W-league should of been implemented after 30-40 years of the HAL onces clubs has strong established fan bases. The AFL has done a good job with the AFLW so far but i dont think it will last because the quality of football is terrible
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+x+xAFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad. It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do. it being free might have something to do with it... Also it has been marketed to death, i can honestly see no one coming after the novelty wears off. The AFLW is riding on fans of clubs that are pre-existing. No one really gives a single f*** about the AFLW but many people care about there CLUB ie people care about Geelong F.C so they will go and support the club regardless it is called building a fan base. It is what a suggested the HAL do with the W-league the W-league should of been implemented after 30-40 years of the HAL onces clubs has strong established fan bases. The AFL has done a good job with the AFLW so far but i dont think it will last because the quality of football is terrible Funny thing about the AFLW is that they've gone for a conference system, in order to have 10 teams (this season) but only run a 7 week season. If ever you wanted to see why conferences are a bad idea (at times people have mooted them for the A-League), take a look at this seasons AFLW. 3 weeks in, the 5th placed (i.e. bottom) team in conference A has a better record than the top team in conference B... It will be interesting to see if it starts to balance out a bit over the course of the next 4 weeks, or stays so lopsided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFL_Women%27s_season#Ladders
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bettega
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+x+x+xAFLW is probly the worst game i have ever seen. The skills are so bad. It is amazing they get the crowds and ratings that they do. it being free might have something to do with it... Also it has been marketed to death, i can honestly see no one coming after the novelty wears off. The AFLW is riding on fans of clubs that are pre-existing. No one really gives a single f*** about the AFLW but many people care about there CLUB ie people care about Geelong F.C so they will go and support the club regardless it is called building a fan base. It is what a suggested the HAL do with the W-league the W-league should of been implemented after 30-40 years of the HAL onces clubs has strong established fan bases. The AFL has done a good job with the AFLW so far but i dont think it will last because the quality of football is terrible Funny thing about the AFLW is that they've gone for a conference system, in order to have 10 teams (this season) but only run a 7 week season. If ever you wanted to see why conferences are a bad idea (at times people have mooted them for the A-League), take a look at this seasons AFLW. 3 weeks in, the 5th placed (i.e. bottom) team in conference A has a better record than the top team in conference B... It will be interesting to see if it starts to balance out a bit over the course of the next 4 weeks, or stays so lopsided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFL_Women%27s_season#Ladders that looks pretty bad, they've definitely stuffed that one up
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+xFunny thing about the AFLW is that they've gone for a conference system, in order to have 10 teams (this season) but only run a 7 week season. If ever you wanted to see why conferences are a bad idea (at times people have mooted them for the A-League), take a look at this seasons AFLW. 3 weeks in, the 5th placed (i.e. bottom) team in conference A has a better record than the top team in conference B... It will be interesting to see if it starts to balance out a bit over the course of the next 4 weeks, or stays so lopsided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFL_Women%27s_season#Ladders how will it work next year when 4 more teams are added? they will either have to start earlier or extend into the AFL season. I don't think they'll wanna start earlier because of the tennis and BBL.
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+x+xFunny thing about the AFLW is that they've gone for a conference system, in order to have 10 teams (this season) but only run a 7 week season. If ever you wanted to see why conferences are a bad idea (at times people have mooted them for the A-League), take a look at this seasons AFLW. 3 weeks in, the 5th placed (i.e. bottom) team in conference A has a better record than the top team in conference B... It will be interesting to see if it starts to balance out a bit over the course of the next 4 weeks, or stays so lopsided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFL_Women%27s_season#Ladders how will it work next year when 4 more teams are added? they will either have to start earlier or extend into the AFL season. I don't think they'll wanna start earlier because of the tennis and BBL. I dare say the AFL themselves don't know, and will just cobble something together in November. I'd say it's a very low priority for them. Remember, if the AFL has to make a choice between protecting/promoting their brand and running a legitimate sporting competition, they will always choose the former. That said, there's no denying, it's working for them in terms of metrics (viewers, attendances, sponsorship).
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i think we are losing this one
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I think AFLW conferences are based on position from last year not geography. So it would make sense for one conference to have the better teams...
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+xI think AFLW conferences are based on position from last year not geography. So it would make sense for one conference to have the better teams... In that case, they would've been better just having 2 divisions.Play each team in your division home & away = 8 game season, and the final ladders actually give a decent representation of how good each team is. Play the grand final between the teams that finished top 2 teams in division #1. That would give a season the same length as the current setup, but (IMO) a much better competition. Add P&R so the top 2/bottom 2 swap each season, and it might be the kick in the arse that FFA need to see that P&R can work...
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Didn’t realise their season was that short and didn’t know they had conferences this season. Interesting.
Do the teams play in their state leagues as well?
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Topics like this are meaningful, relatable and worth discussing for our future growth as a code
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people have totally misunderstood the context here. The statue has nothing to do with Taylor Harris, but its a statement against online trolling. its an incredibly innacurate article.
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+x people have totally misunderstood the context here. The statue has nothing to do with Taylor Harris, but its a statement against online trolling. its an incredibly innacurate article. Lol, you think they'd create and insert a statue in one of the most prominent places in Melbourne just to give the finger to online trolls? Wow... The statue is a joke. Why should a moderately talented athlete get one in such a prominent position? Maybe if it were in her local neighbourhood it would make more sense. Fed square should be reserved for Aussie icons, not complete nobodies.
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+x+x people have totally misunderstood the context here. The statue has nothing to do with Taylor Harris, but its a statement against online trolling. its an incredibly innacurate article. Lol, you think they'd create and insert a statue in one of the most prominent places in Melbourne just to give the finger to online trolls? Wow... The statue is a joke. Why should a moderately talented athlete get one in such a prominent position? Maybe if it were in her local neighbourhood it would make more sense. Fed square should be reserved for Aussie icons, not complete nobodies. the whole thing reminds me of the south park episode when the nurse has fetus on her head
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+xLol, you think they'd create and insert a statue in one of the most prominent places in Melbourne just to give the finger to online trolls? Wow... The statue is a joke. Why should a moderately talented athlete get one in such a prominent position? Maybe if it were in her local neighbourhood it would make more sense. Fed square should be reserved for Aussie icons, not complete nobodies. my understanding is that its only being displayed in fed square for the AFL finals then relocated to a new location. and its privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don’t understand the fuss tbh.
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+x+x people have totally misunderstood the context here. The statue has nothing to do with Taylor Harris, but its a statement against online trolling. its an incredibly innacurate article. Lol, you think they'd create and insert a statue in one of the most prominent places in Melbourne just to give the finger to online trolls? Wow... The statue is a joke. Why should a moderately talented athlete get one in such a prominent position? Maybe if it were in her local neighbourhood it would make more sense. Fed square should be reserved for Aussie icons, not complete nobodies. Yeah but Its obviously physical statement designed to challenge patriarchal power structures and institutionalised bigotry...... etc.. you know how the rest goes.
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I just think its another AFL promo opportunity. nothing more. The trolling thing is just a clever back story. Smart though.
Too bad FFA doesn't have the money or foresight, or media backing, to do something similarly attention grabbing.
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Publicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup
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+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this
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+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news
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+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news There is always another sport in the news.
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+x+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news There is always another sport in the news. Not in Victoria lol
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+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news It's Melbourne, there is only ever one sport in the news. The Boomers having a legit shot of winning a world cup is literally getting about a 2 second mention
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+x+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news It's Melbourne, there is only ever one sport in the news. The Boomers having a legit shot of winning a world cup is literally getting about a 2 second mention you can't seriously be suggesting that a tiny bit of media directed at some silly statue is going to impact on our capacity to follow the boomers?
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+x+x+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news It's Melbourne, there is only ever one sport in the news. The Boomers having a legit shot of winning a world cup is literally getting about a 2 second mention you can't seriously be suggesting that a tiny bit of media directed at some silly statue is going to impact on our capacity to follow the boomers? No, i am just saying there is only one sport which gets media attention. Well that and Cricket
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+x+x+x+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this I guess it's just a coincidence that these types of events always seem occur when another sport is in the news It's Melbourne, there is only ever one sport in the news. The Boomers having a legit shot of winning a world cup is literally getting about a 2 second mention you can't seriously be suggesting that a tiny bit of media directed at some silly statue is going to impact on our capacity to follow the boomers? It's about what the media chooses to cover and what they don't
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+x+xPublicity stunt. The day after a socceroos win and whilst the boomers are playing in the World cup interesting but it was not the afl it was nab bank that did this The same NAB that is a major partner of the AFL, the AFL which is in the middle of its showpiece month. The whole premise that the statue is built because of sexism is crazy, if someone is building a statue because of this reason then there would surely be far more prominent events or people that a statue could be built of. It's not coincidence that this has an AFL player as the subject. Publicity stunt.
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meh, not fussed one way or the other
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Is there even a statue of Kathy Freeman anywhere? How could any AFLW player three years max into their career deserve a statue more than her?
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It’s really interesting to me in the same way we get eurosnobs criticizing the a league we have afl fans giving it to the aflw. Humans are interesting creatures
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AFLW is much better than sokkah.
Wogz don't throw bottles at AFLW
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onya shazza!
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Looks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL.
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+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Perspective; AFL is the biggest sport in the world in Melbourne. They get a lot more media coverage even for a women's game even if not warranted (women's AFL) There is no other AFL game played anywhere in the world, so people tune in just to watch a game, even if the footy is atrocious. The WAFL is not played in concurrent with the AFL, unlike the Wleague with ALeague.
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+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Perspective; AFL is the biggest sport in the world in Melbourne. They get a lot more media coverage even for a women's game even if not warranted (women's AFL) There is no other AFL game played anywhere in the world, so people tune in just to watch a game, even if the footy is atrocious. The WAFL is not played in concurrent with the AFL, unlike the Wleague with ALeague. Oh I agree mate, Im not a fan either but seriously wish the interest and marketing for women's soccer was even 1/4 as much here... So much more appealing to women (and men) of all ages.
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+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Perspective; AFL is the biggest sport in the world in Melbourne. They get a lot more media coverage even for a women's game even if not warranted (women's AFL) There is no other AFL game played anywhere in the world, so people tune in just to watch a game, even if the footy is atrocious. The WAFL is not played in concurrent with the AFL, unlike the Wleague with ALeague. Oh I agree mate, Im not a fan either but seriously wish the interest and marketing for women's soccer was even 1/4 as much here... So much more appealing to women (and men) of all ages. The marketing I totally agree, even if A-League (I know you not the biggest fan) got 1/2 the marketing as the AFLW that would be outstanding, shows you all this BS from AFL fans the media provides as per interest. In Sydney, there is no comparison between Interest in Women's football to AFLW. Most people know & are aware of Matildas, Sam Kerr, Ellie Carpenter, DeVanna & Ford etc then any AFLW player, I know this is different in Melbourne.
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+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Perspective; AFL is the biggest sport in the world in Melbourne. They get a lot more media coverage even for a women's game even if not warranted (women's AFL) There is no other AFL game played anywhere in the world, so people tune in just to watch a game, even if the footy is atrocious. The WAFL is not played in concurrent with the AFL, unlike the Wleague with ALeague. Oh I agree mate, Im not a fan either but seriously wish the interest and marketing for women's soccer was even 1/4 as much here... So much more appealing to women (and men) of all ages. The marketing I totally agree, even if A-League (I know you not the biggest fan) got 1/2 the marketing as the AFLW that would be outstanding, shows you all this BS from AFL fans the media provides as per interest. In Sydney, there is no comparison between Interest in Women's football to AFLW. Most people know & are aware of Matildas, Sam Kerr, Ellie Carpenter, DeVanna & Ford etc then any AFLW player, I know this is different in Melbourne. I wish that was the same in Melbourne... Women's soccer seems invisible, at least in the media.... For a society very much geared up to promote equality in women's sports, Melbournians really do fail in this respect....
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+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it.
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+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. The majority of people aren’t following the league. I find it interesting how heavily marketed it is but the people are still refusing to buy into it. Imagine the matildas getting 1/4 of the marketing when we hosted the tournament of nations on home soil
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+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar".
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+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar". Arzani?
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+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar". Arzani? Touche'
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+x+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar". Arzani? Touche' Yeah sorry, couldn't resist aha
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+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar". Arzani? Haha..true!
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+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. You know a sport is fucked when literally any half decent athlete from any other sport can come in a be a 'star' in it. Or a player who has maybe played a dozen games is hyped up as a "superstar". Aren't we doing the same thing with all the young players in the aleague?
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+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on..
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+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. What’s wrong with the wleague? I thought it’s a top women’s league
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+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. What’s wrong with the wleague? I thought it’s a top women’s league The wleague is what it is. Is it better than the aflw? Yes but its comparing apples to oranges. A lot of men like to hate on women's sports but those same people have daughters sisters other women in their life that maybe want to play professional sport and having that attitude says a lot
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+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. What’s wrong with the wleague? I thought it’s a top women’s league The wleague is what it is. Is it better than the aflw? Yes but its comparing apples to oranges. A lot of men like to hate on women's sports but those same people have daughters sisters other women in their life that maybe want to play professional sport and having that attitude says a lot It's bizarre that's for sure. 5 minutes reading the comments when optus sports post anything on facebook about women's football makes you wonder what is wrong with some blokes. Instead of being proud that women's football is huge, part of our game and our girls are actually pretty good they just get ragged on again and again.
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+x+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. What’s wrong with the wleague? I thought it’s a top women’s league The wleague is what it is. Is it better than the aflw? Yes but its comparing apples to oranges. A lot of men like to hate on women's sports but those same people have daughters sisters other women in their life that maybe want to play professional sport and having that attitude says a lot It's bizarre that's for sure. 5 minutes reading the comments when optus sports post anything on facebook about women's football makes you wonder what is wrong with some blokes. Instead of being proud that women's football is huge, part of our game and our girls are actually pretty good they just get ragged on again and again. Why is it all right to denigrate one women's sport but get worked up about the wleague when the same thing happens?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. What’s wrong with the wleague? I thought it’s a top women’s league The wleague is what it is. Is it better than the aflw? Yes but its comparing apples to oranges. A lot of men like to hate on women's sports but those same people have daughters sisters other women in their life that maybe want to play professional sport and having that attitude says a lot It's bizarre that's for sure. 5 minutes reading the comments when optus sports post anything on facebook about women's football makes you wonder what is wrong with some blokes. Instead of being proud that women's football is huge, part of our game and our girls are actually pretty good they just get ragged on again and again. Why is it all right to denigrate one women's sport but get worked up about the wleague when the same thing happens? i havent seen anybody here say its okay to denigrate womens sport. (if they do, they are fools) but people get up in arms because when the w league gets trashed because this is a football site and those clowns are trashing our sport and continuing the decades long trend of blindly hating (or fearing?) football.
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+x+xLooks like a decent crowd turned out, especially now that all tickets have to be paid for..... Footy was atrocious though not having a go at women here but skill level is definately at a much much lower level. Also something about women punching on with each other.....yukk, much prefer women's soccer. If only they could get the same crowds as the WAFL. Have you watched any wleague? People in glass houses and so on.. Admittedly more Wleague than Aleague on tv because a lot of the girls from South tend to play there in the off season but yeah only on ABC tv to be honest. I do tend to at least try and attend South Melbourne WNPL games and always go early to catch the girls play when we have double headers. If South Melbourne was IN the Wleague then I would watch and attend a hell of a lot more... simple. All Im saying is that womens soccer SHOULD appeal a hell of a lot more, especially with the fact that we have a fairly successful national squad, players playing in the best leagues in Europe AND a World Cup we are hosting coming up .... sadly in Melbourne, Footy dwarfs everything else.
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You guys crack me up
On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature
Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it?
The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL
Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved
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+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off.
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+x+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off. But you pretty much made the point Aussie Rules fans like the AFL, and some of them like the AFLW. Football fans like the A League, and some of them like the W League The amount of marketing does little to aid the decision. To follow a sport you need to understand the rules, have some social / cultural connection to the league, have a team, and it also depends on match importance, etc...etc...etc... Its not like watching Master Chef or listening to a new band The A League struggles for fans because the fan base for the Australian leg of our code is small, the league instead of country smaller yet, and the interest in the womens game smaller yet The AFLW fairs well because of a much much larger established fan base. Not because of the number of ads or column space in newspapers. And you are right, the support drops of drastically when the AFL starts because it has higher caliber among its elitist fans I dont think its true to say if we had 1/2 or a 1/4 of the marketing the AFL has our code would be fairing better
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+x+x+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off. But you pretty much made the point Aussie Rules fans like the AFL, and some of them like the AFLW. Football fans like the A League, and some of them like the W League The amount of marketing does little to aid the decision. To follow a sport you need to understand the rules, have some social / cultural connection to the league, have a team, and it also depends on match importance, etc...etc...etc... Its not like watching Master Chef or listening to a new band The A League struggles for fans because the fan base for the Australian leg of our code is small, the league instead of country smaller yet, and the interest in the womens game smaller yet The AFLW fairs well because of a much much larger established fan base. Not because of the number of ads or column space in newspapers. And you are right, the support drops of drastically when the AFL starts because it has higher caliber among its elitist fans I dont think its true to say if we had 1/2 or a 1/4 of the marketing the AFL has our code would be fairing better To a degree I agree with you BB however womens sport, especially over the last decade or so, seems to operate a little differently, at least as far as support. I have a daughter and naturally socialise with the parents of her girlfriends. The conversations about womens AFL, especially amongst the mums, is more about womens empowerment, gender equality and having strong role models for young girls to emulate. Alot of the mums say they hate the AFL and always did growing up but take their little girls to Auskick because, if its good enough for the boys the girls can do it too. When I naturally mention the Matildas and womens soccer I sort of get blank stares and mumbled comments about, "yeah soccer is good too." This is purely anecdotal and just my personal experience ofcourse, so take it as you will. What I think it shows is that Wleague (just like the rest of football) doesnt do a good enough job of selling the narrative down here in Melbourne at least.
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+x+x+x+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off. But you pretty much made the point Aussie Rules fans like the AFL, and some of them like the AFLW. Football fans like the A League, and some of them like the W League The amount of marketing does little to aid the decision. To follow a sport you need to understand the rules, have some social / cultural connection to the league, have a team, and it also depends on match importance, etc...etc...etc... Its not like watching Master Chef or listening to a new band The A League struggles for fans because the fan base for the Australian leg of our code is small, the league instead of country smaller yet, and the interest in the womens game smaller yet The AFLW fairs well because of a much much larger established fan base. Not because of the number of ads or column space in newspapers. And you are right, the support drops of drastically when the AFL starts because it has higher caliber among its elitist fans I dont think its true to say if we had 1/2 or a 1/4 of the marketing the AFL has our code would be fairing better To a degree I agree with you BB however womens sport, especially over the last decade or so, seems to operate a little differently, at least as far as support. I have a daughter and naturally socialise with the parents of her girlfriends. The conversations about womens AFL, especially amongst the mums, is more about womens empowerment, gender equality and having strong role models for young girls to emulate. Alot of the mums say they hate the AFL and always did growing up but take their little girls to Auskick because, if its good enough for the boys the girls can do it too. When I naturally mention the Matildas and womens soccer I sort of get blank stares and mumbled comments about, "yeah soccer is good too." This is purely anecdotal and just my personal experience ofcourse, so take it as you will. What I think it shows is that Wleague (just like the rest of football) doesnt do a good enough job of selling the narrative down here in Melbourne at least. Thats right. It comes back to the social and cultural significance of sport The AFLW was designed to give females (sex) a sporting voice. That they can play a "blokes" game too. Having their girls play or watch gives them some sense of empowerment I was doing some stats / research when the Matildas were smashed by an u15s team and at a quick glance, every track record by the highest Australian female athlete was beaten by a male at the u16s level. Females are biologically weaker. Comparing male sport and female sport is like comparing grey hound racing, and horse racing, and then also comparing that to humans. AFLW has to be taken in the context of the athletes that are delivering it. Its not about the best human ability but the best female ability and this will improve over time and develop its own quirks (note: this is why transgendered people should stay out of sport subdivided by sex. Acting feminine does not make you a female. Nor does it give you the same biological, social and cultural disadvantages that makes female sport in its own category relevant) Football on the other hand has less cultural and social traction in Victoria. And those who do follow they game might feel closer to the leagues of their other nationality We all have that one example of a sport that we started watching because it was on TV or heavily promoted. Maybe the odd baseball game, or the superbowl, or even championship darts. But its a personal experience and doesnt translate into real growth, fan base or commercial gain. Its fickle at best. Football's hope for traction in this country is the same problem as we had in the NSL days - how do we turn support for football into support for the local game. A bunch of franchises operating under salary caps and concessions with all good things dished out in excessive quantities taking it in turns in winning wasn't the answer
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+x+x+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off. But you pretty much made the point Aussie Rules fans like the AFL, and some of them like the AFLW. Football fans like the A League, and some of them like the W League The amount of marketing does little to aid the decision. To follow a sport you need to understand the rules, have some social / cultural connection to the league, have a team, and it also depends on match importance, etc...etc...etc... Its not like watching Master Chef or listening to a new band The A League struggles for fans because the fan base for the Australian leg of our code is small, the league instead of country smaller yet, and the interest in the womens game smaller yet The AFLW fairs well because of a much much larger established fan base. Not because of the number of ads or column space in newspapers. And you are right, the support drops of drastically when the AFL starts because it has higher caliber among its elitist fans I dont think its true to say if we had 1/2 or a 1/4 of the marketing the AFL has our code would be fairing better So you don't think W league would do better if they had the marketing of AFLW!!! Ummmmm. Please remember not all of Australia is like Melbourne. In Sydney AFL is only a minor sport & AFLW is next to nothing, the likes of Sam Kerr & Ellie Carpenter & many of the Matlidas has a much higher profile then any AFLW players, yet the media attention the AFLW gets is astounding.
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+x+x+x+xYou guys crack me up On one hand you say the AFLW, despite heavy marketing, gets minimal interest. People see something, decide whether or not they like it, and adjust their habits accordingly. Basic human nature Then on the other hand you think marketing will help the A League or Matildas. Despite our code being a distant third or fourth choice. So which is it? The AFLW, despite its shortfalls, is still comparable to the A League in terms of ratings and attendances. People who like Aussie Rules are more likely to watch a variation of their own game than something new completely. We see this also in cricket with the BBL Sport is one of those things most people flock to after an established interest. It isnt a TV show. Until people have an interest in the week in / week out version of our code then the metrics will always reflect that regardless of the marketing involved No sure what you reading, but my comment was AFLW gets good interest & media attention in Melbourne because AFL is the no 1 sport in the world in Melbourne & they have no other AFL game in the world for 4-5 months a year. I wonder how AFLW ratings & attendances would be if the AFL was on at the same time. The W League is competing with the A League & numerous men's big leagues all around the world including women's leagues in Europe. Maybe you should comprehend before shooting off. But you pretty much made the point Aussie Rules fans like the AFL, and some of them like the AFLW. Football fans like the A League, and some of them like the W League The amount of marketing does little to aid the decision. To follow a sport you need to understand the rules, have some social / cultural connection to the league, have a team, and it also depends on match importance, etc...etc...etc... Its not like watching Master Chef or listening to a new band The A League struggles for fans because the fan base for the Australian leg of our code is small, the league instead of country smaller yet, and the interest in the womens game smaller yet The AFLW fairs well because of a much much larger established fan base. Not because of the number of ads or column space in newspapers. And you are right, the support drops of drastically when the AFL starts because it has higher caliber among its elitist fans I dont think its true to say if we had 1/2 or a 1/4 of the marketing the AFL has our code would be fairing better So you don't think W league would do better if they had the marketing of AFLW!!! Ummmmm. Please remember not all of Australia is like Melbourne. In Sydney AFL is only a minor sport & AFLW is next to nothing, the likes of Sam Kerr & Ellie Carpenter & many of the Matlidas has a much higher profile then any AFLW players, yet the media attention the AFLW gets is astounding. You keep proving my point The AFLW, despite heavy marketing, struggles. Some of the Matildas such as Kerr, despite no marketing, are high profile names If the proof you have is that marketing doesnt do much in getting people to follow sports they dont like, and lack of marketing doesnt prevent social interest or connections, then what point are you trying to make? Sport isn't a TV show. It is a social and cultural interest. You dont need marketing to tell people who ADP or Cahill were before they came here. People know who they are. You dont need marketing to tell you who Scott Morrison is or who Eminem is. No amount of marketing is going to get me to a Justin Beiber concert Sport is life. Media coverage such as games, news and results helps with accessibility because its needless to say a game with no coverage or accessibility is frustrating to follow and people wont bother (like with the NSL). But marketing and promotion is simply about generating hype amongst existing fans and controlling the message The fact the Matildas grew from nothing to household names with very little marketing reinforces this point
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Good, bad, indifferent, I don't know, I don't watch it.
But I'm interested in metrics.
I saw on twitter that the opening game got an attendance of 6,712, which, you'd have to admit, is pretty good. On the Roar, someone corrected me when I said that the AFLW doesn't charge for attendance, apparently, they now do charge.
Then I wondered whether they would make the top 20 of the Fox ratings.
And to my surprise, yeh, it did, got 50k.
Nothing fantastic, true, but at the same time, can't remember the last time an A-League game got over 20k.
Feels like a very, very long time ago.
So whether the actual game is good, bad or indifferent, these metrics are pretty good.
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+xGood, bad, indifferent, I don't know, I don't watch it. But I'm interested in metrics. I saw on twitter that the opening game got an attendance of 6,712, which, you'd have to admit, is pretty good. On the Roar, someone corrected me when I said that the AFLW doesn't charge for attendance, apparently, they now do charge. Then I wondered whether they would make the top 20 of the Fox ratings. And to my surprise, yeh, it did, got 50k. Nothing fantastic, true, but at the same time, can't remember the last time an A-League game got over 20k. Feels like a very, very long time ago. So whether the actual game is good, bad or indifferent, these metrics are pretty good. I know when the pandemic was at full flight last year & no live football was on for a few months. Then the Korean league started & people all over the world flocked to watch the Korean, so starved of football. The AFL Grand Final was in October later then normal, it's now nearly Feb, if I was an AFL fan I'd be gagging for live AFL. They have nothing else.
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+x+xGood, bad, indifferent, I don't know, I don't watch it. But I'm interested in metrics. I saw on twitter that the opening game got an attendance of 6,712, which, you'd have to admit, is pretty good. On the Roar, someone corrected me when I said that the AFLW doesn't charge for attendance, apparently, they now do charge. Then I wondered whether they would make the top 20 of the Fox ratings. And to my surprise, yeh, it did, got 50k. Nothing fantastic, true, but at the same time, can't remember the last time an A-League game got over 20k. Feels like a very, very long time ago. So whether the actual game is good, bad or indifferent, these metrics are pretty good. I know when the pandemic was at full flight last year & no live football was on for a few months. Then the Korean league started & people all over the world flocked to watch the Korean, so starved of football. The AFL Grand Final was in October later then normal, it's now nearly Feb, if I was an AFL fan I'd be gagging for live AFL. They have nothing else. Dude people were watching the Belarusian league myself included
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+x+x+xGood, bad, indifferent, I don't know, I don't watch it. But I'm interested in metrics. I saw on twitter that the opening game got an attendance of 6,712, which, you'd have to admit, is pretty good. On the Roar, someone corrected me when I said that the AFLW doesn't charge for attendance, apparently, they now do charge. Then I wondered whether they would make the top 20 of the Fox ratings. And to my surprise, yeh, it did, got 50k. Nothing fantastic, true, but at the same time, can't remember the last time an A-League game got over 20k. Feels like a very, very long time ago. So whether the actual game is good, bad or indifferent, these metrics are pretty good. I know when the pandemic was at full flight last year & no live football was on for a few months. Then the Korean league started & people all over the world flocked to watch the Korean, so starved of football. The AFL Grand Final was in October later then normal, it's now nearly Feb, if I was an AFL fan I'd be gagging for live AFL. They have nothing else. Dude people were watching the Belarusian league myself included Oops forgot about that league.
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+x+xGood, bad, indifferent, I don't know, I don't watch it. But I'm interested in metrics. I saw on twitter that the opening game got an attendance of 6,712, which, you'd have to admit, is pretty good. On the Roar, someone corrected me when I said that the AFLW doesn't charge for attendance, apparently, they now do charge. Then I wondered whether they would make the top 20 of the Fox ratings. And to my surprise, yeh, it did, got 50k. Nothing fantastic, true, but at the same time, can't remember the last time an A-League game got over 20k. Feels like a very, very long time ago. So whether the actual game is good, bad or indifferent, these metrics are pretty good. I know when the pandemic was at full flight last year & no live football was on for a few months. Then the Korean league started & people all over the world flocked to watch the Korean, so starved of football. The AFL Grand Final was in October later then normal, it's now nearly Feb, if I was an AFL fan I'd be gagging for live AFL. They have nothing else. The afl starts in 2 months. The die hards will watch afl on fox on repeat. The same diehards shit on the aflw because its not the greatest
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Im goin to the tiges gamr
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The posters on this forum are just as useless as the hopeless guy who has been supposedly "running" the sport for the past 13 months. But at least that clown has been "enriching" himself by fleecing the game of more than $500,000 for doing absolutely zilch!
Football, the TRUE game of Australias 1914-1918 First World War heroes and original ANZACs Aussie Rules, Rugby League and Cricket, the TRUE games of Australias 1914-1918 First World War shirkers, frauds and cowardly draft dodgers”
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There are players in the AFLW who had never played a single game of Aussie Rules before signing a professional AFLW contract. Says all you need to know.
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i get the obsession with the AFL, cos it's a competitior.
but AFLW ????
Do mens tennis fans look at womens golf ratings and get all pepped up?
the AFLW is a mickey mouse token comp. people give it way too much credit. comparing it to our top football league?? jayzuz.
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Got to honest tried to watch this but the average skill level is not much different to high school AFL, pretty atrocious. I would expect any athlete on TV needs better skills than myself but am not convinced they do.
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It goes for 9 games and not all teams play each other lol. Calm down.
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Seriously, why are we worrying about other sports. Doesn’t matter whether it’s men or women it’s a different game, James Johnson has said as much.
This obsession with what other sports are doing is crazy. True believers should be doing all they can to ensure football remains front and centre and stuff anyone else.
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Aflw is used a a massive funding scam by clubs a d councils pretending they’re helping women’s sport.
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+xAflw is used a a massive funding scam by clubs a d councils pretending they’re helping women’s sport. There's a fair bit of truth in that.
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A-League got about double the attendance last night.
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A-League won the attendance last night, but got one quarter of the ratings on Fox.
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+xA-League won the attendance last night, but got one quarter of the ratings on Fox. Aflw match as a small suburban ground in Moorabbin so they had a cap of 3k not much of a victory
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I heard on the news it was 9 games each and they will not play every team. Is this correct?
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Love football**
these Kangaroos can play football -
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Honestly hand on heart give zero f**ks about the AFLW and W-League Both competitions are crap Prize money is crap Stakes are crap Quality of sports people on the pitch is crap The world might be going 'diversity mad but in the end of the day a spade is a spade both are boring to watch and even more boring to follow
these Kangaroos can play football -
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KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL
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+xHonestly hand on heart give zero f**ks about the AFLW and W-League Both competitions are crap Prize money is crap Stakes are crap Quality of sports people on the pitch is crap The world might be going 'diversity mad but in the end of the day a spade is a spade both are boring to watch and even more boring to follow That's fine. Don't follow them but it's also bizarre that blokes (not you) who profess to 'not give a shit' (like you) constantly find time to denigrate women's football at any opportunity.
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Anyone who doesn’t appreciate women playing our game is a tool. What’s not to like about chicks loving football? Davstar is clearly single and lives with his mum.
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Both women's AFL and the football are definitely shite. European women's handball is where women's sport can be really entertaining and it appears to MY view that it suits women's physical stature to a tee. My two bobs worth.
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You have to give it to the AFL. 4 new teams and full steam ahead. If only we had vision like they do. Concerns about talent dilution were brushed aside as well as concerns about some clubs being not fully ready.
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+xYou have to give it to the AFL. 4 new teams and full steam ahead. If only we had vision like they do. Concerns about talent dilution were brushed aside as well as concerns about some clubs being not fully ready. they have to move fast as the threats are great and they have the resources financial and managerial to execute these outcomes
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This what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it.
What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning.
The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future.
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+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam.
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+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years.
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+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. I think that the approach needs to fit the sport. AFL(W) does the exact same thing FFA does. Its ALL about the metrics. Bums on seat, money from merchandise, food and memberships. Vision, planning and development is ONLY about growing the financial footprint of their game... They do not have a need to develop a better playing pool for their national team to compete on the world stage (they dont have one). FA, APL and PFA are all following the same "unique" methodology and expecting a better outcome going up against the outside world that doesn't have these limitations in their thinking..... Sadly though, as we have seen this year, things are changing in the football world at a rapid pace also. Mate, the game we both love was born nearly 200 years ago out of the unionist/socialist ideals of a labour movement wanting something to do on their new found one day off a week. Working in the mines and factories of 1800s Britain Mon-Saturday meant Sundays were Church –Football – Pub = Happy Workers. The “money” was happy with this arrangement going as far as organizing the first clubs/leagues. When they started seeing the commercial potential in charging crowds to watch and then even paying players to play the game so that they could charge even more people to watch the game spread around the whole world. What we are seeing today is the natural evolution of the late-Victorian British capitalist system coming full circle. Football is a political, ideological, capital tool used to push agendas and make money now….. The owners want TV rights money and merchandising opportunities not Barry the Manc from the housing estates paying 15 pounds to sing “Glory Glory Man United” with his mates for 90 mins. The horse has bolted as soon as clubs went from being not for profit, member owned sports clubs to being owned by private enterprises, countries or investors. Even the Bundesliga 51% fan ownership rule is a joke now. When a club like RB Leipzig can have Red Bull own 49% shares in the club and then key company personal “own” a vast majority of the remainder of the 51% of the club then that ceases to be a club and is a business…. The FA and British Government can have as many Royal Enquiries as they want about implementing a similar rule in England but do you not think Abrahmovic, Sheik Mansour, the Glazers, the Boston Red Sox crew etc etc wont be able to buy back and control what they need from their clubs? Its all a scam. Look at the Man City fanbase, who had 100+ years of absolute failure to now praising the benevolence of one of the most horrific, suppressive dictatorships in global history all because they are winning trophies and silverware … Give the masses what they think they want and all will be forgotten. Bread and Circuses just like the last days of Rome …… Messi “having” to leave Barca is actually the death knell that many don’t want to acknowledge in my opinion. If a club like Barca is on the verge of collapsing with debts of almost a billion and Inter Milan winning the Serie A but bankrupting themselves to do so and now “fire selling” Lukaku and all their other players…… There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he.
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+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. . ... sorry for the rant he he he. Not a rant. Good post.
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+x+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. . ... sorry for the rant he he he. Not a rant. Good post. Appreciate it... were not that different you and I
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+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. I think that the approach needs to fit the sport. AFL(W) does the exact same thing FFA does. Its ALL about the metrics. Bums on seat, money from merchandise, food and memberships. Vision, planning and development is ONLY about growing the financial footprint of their game... They do not have a need to develop a better playing pool for their national team to compete on the world stage (they dont have one). FA, APL and PFA are all following the same "unique" methodology and expecting a better outcome going up against the outside world that doesn't have these limitations in their thinking..... Sadly though, as we have seen this year, things are changing in the football world at a rapid pace also. Mate, the game we both love was born nearly 200 years ago out of the unionist/socialist ideals of a labour movement wanting something to do on their new found one day off a week. Working in the mines and factories of 1800s Britain Mon-Saturday meant Sundays were Church –Football – Pub = Happy Workers. The “money” was happy with this arrangement going as far as organizing the first clubs/leagues. When they started seeing the commercial potential in charging crowds to watch and then even paying players to play the game so that they could charge even more people to watch the game spread around the whole world. What we are seeing today is the natural evolution of the late-Victorian British capitalist system coming full circle. Football is a political, ideological, capital tool used to push agendas and make money now….. The owners want TV rights money and merchandising opportunities not Barry the Manc from the housing estates paying 15 pounds to sing “Glory Glory Man United” with his mates for 90 mins. The horse has bolted as soon as clubs went from being not for profit, member owned sports clubs to being owned by private enterprises, countries or investors. Even the Bundesliga 51% fan ownership rule is a joke now. When a club like RB Leipzig can have Red Bull own 49% shares in the club and then key company personal “own” a vast majority of the remainder of the 51% of the club then that ceases to be a club and is a business…. The FA and British Government can have as many Royal Enquiries as they want about implementing a similar rule in England but do you not think Abrahmovic, Sheik Mansour, the Glazers, the Boston Red Sox crew etc etc wont be able to buy back and control what they need from their clubs? Its all a scam. Look at the Man City fanbase, who had 100+ years of absolute failure to now praising the benevolence of one of the most horrific, suppressive dictatorships in global history all because they are winning trophies and silverware … Give the masses what they think they want and all will be forgotten. Bread and Circuses just like the last days of Rome …… Messi “having” to leave Barca is actually the death knell that many don’t want to acknowledge in my opinion. If a club like Barca is on the verge of collapsing with debts of almost a billion and Inter Milan winning the Serie A but bankrupting themselves to do so and now “fire selling” Lukaku and all their other players…… There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. +x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. I think that the approach needs to fit the sport. AFL(W) does the exact same thing FFA does. Its ALL about the metrics. Bums on seat, money from merchandise, food and memberships. Vision, planning and development is ONLY about growing the financial footprint of their game... They do not have a need to develop a better playing pool for their national team to compete on the world stage (they dont have one). FA, APL and PFA are all following the same "unique" methodology and expecting a better outcome going up against the outside world that doesn't have these limitations in their thinking..... Sadly though, as we have seen this year, things are changing in the football world at a rapid pace also. Mate, the game we both love was born nearly 200 years ago out of the unionist/socialist ideals of a labour movement wanting something to do on their new found one day off a week. Working in the mines and factories of 1800s Britain Mon-Saturday meant Sundays were Church –Football – Pub = Happy Workers. The “money” was happy with this arrangement going as far as organizing the first clubs/leagues. When they started seeing the commercial potential in charging crowds to watch and then even paying players to play the game so that they could charge even more people to watch the game spread around the whole world. What we are seeing today is the natural evolution of the late-Victorian British capitalist system coming full circle. Football is a political, ideological, capital tool used to push agendas and make money now….. The owners want TV rights money and merchandising opportunities not Barry the Manc from the housing estates paying 15 pounds to sing “Glory Glory Man United” with his mates for 90 mins. The horse has bolted as soon as clubs went from being not for profit, member owned sports clubs to being owned by private enterprises, countries or investors. Even the Bundesliga 51% fan ownership rule is a joke now. When a club like RB Leipzig can have Red Bull own 49% shares in the club and then key company personal “own” a vast majority of the remainder of the 51% of the club then that ceases to be a club and is a business…. The FA and British Government can have as many Royal Enquiries as they want about implementing a similar rule in England but do you not think Abrahmovic, Sheik Mansour, the Glazers, the Boston Red Sox crew etc etc wont be able to buy back and control what they need from their clubs? Its all a scam. Look at the Man City fanbase, who had 100+ years of absolute failure to now praising the benevolence of one of the most horrific, suppressive dictatorships in global history all because they are winning trophies and silverware … Give the masses what they think they want and all will be forgotten. Bread and Circuses just like the last days of Rome …… Messi “having” to leave Barca is actually the death knell that many don’t want to acknowledge in my opinion. If a club like Barca is on the verge of collapsing with debts of almost a billion and Inter Milan winning the Serie A but bankrupting themselves to do so and now “fire selling” Lukaku and all their other players…… There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. Interesting. I feel like you view me watching the a league like I view my friends watching the EPL.perhaps we are all not different
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+x+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. I think that the approach needs to fit the sport. AFL(W) does the exact same thing FFA does. Its ALL about the metrics. Bums on seat, money from merchandise, food and memberships. Vision, planning and development is ONLY about growing the financial footprint of their game... They do not have a need to develop a better playing pool for their national team to compete on the world stage (they dont have one). FA, APL and PFA are all following the same "unique" methodology and expecting a better outcome going up against the outside world that doesn't have these limitations in their thinking..... Sadly though, as we have seen this year, things are changing in the football world at a rapid pace also. Mate, the game we both love was born nearly 200 years ago out of the unionist/socialist ideals of a labour movement wanting something to do on their new found one day off a week. Working in the mines and factories of 1800s Britain Mon-Saturday meant Sundays were Church –Football – Pub = Happy Workers. The “money” was happy with this arrangement going as far as organizing the first clubs/leagues. When they started seeing the commercial potential in charging crowds to watch and then even paying players to play the game so that they could charge even more people to watch the game spread around the whole world. What we are seeing today is the natural evolution of the late-Victorian British capitalist system coming full circle. Football is a political, ideological, capital tool used to push agendas and make money now….. The owners want TV rights money and merchandising opportunities not Barry the Manc from the housing estates paying 15 pounds to sing “Glory Glory Man United” with his mates for 90 mins. The horse has bolted as soon as clubs went from being not for profit, member owned sports clubs to being owned by private enterprises, countries or investors. Even the Bundesliga 51% fan ownership rule is a joke now. When a club like RB Leipzig can have Red Bull own 49% shares in the club and then key company personal “own” a vast majority of the remainder of the 51% of the club then that ceases to be a club and is a business…. The FA and British Government can have as many Royal Enquiries as they want about implementing a similar rule in England but do you not think Abrahmovic, Sheik Mansour, the Glazers, the Boston Red Sox crew etc etc wont be able to buy back and control what they need from their clubs? Its all a scam. Look at the Man City fanbase, who had 100+ years of absolute failure to now praising the benevolence of one of the most horrific, suppressive dictatorships in global history all because they are winning trophies and silverware … Give the masses what they think they want and all will be forgotten. Bread and Circuses just like the last days of Rome …… Messi “having” to leave Barca is actually the death knell that many don’t want to acknowledge in my opinion. If a club like Barca is on the verge of collapsing with debts of almost a billion and Inter Milan winning the Serie A but bankrupting themselves to do so and now “fire selling” Lukaku and all their other players…… There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. +x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. I think that the approach needs to fit the sport. AFL(W) does the exact same thing FFA does. Its ALL about the metrics. Bums on seat, money from merchandise, food and memberships. Vision, planning and development is ONLY about growing the financial footprint of their game... They do not have a need to develop a better playing pool for their national team to compete on the world stage (they dont have one). FA, APL and PFA are all following the same "unique" methodology and expecting a better outcome going up against the outside world that doesn't have these limitations in their thinking..... Sadly though, as we have seen this year, things are changing in the football world at a rapid pace also. Mate, the game we both love was born nearly 200 years ago out of the unionist/socialist ideals of a labour movement wanting something to do on their new found one day off a week. Working in the mines and factories of 1800s Britain Mon-Saturday meant Sundays were Church –Football – Pub = Happy Workers. The “money” was happy with this arrangement going as far as organizing the first clubs/leagues. When they started seeing the commercial potential in charging crowds to watch and then even paying players to play the game so that they could charge even more people to watch the game spread around the whole world. What we are seeing today is the natural evolution of the late-Victorian British capitalist system coming full circle. Football is a political, ideological, capital tool used to push agendas and make money now….. The owners want TV rights money and merchandising opportunities not Barry the Manc from the housing estates paying 15 pounds to sing “Glory Glory Man United” with his mates for 90 mins. The horse has bolted as soon as clubs went from being not for profit, member owned sports clubs to being owned by private enterprises, countries or investors. Even the Bundesliga 51% fan ownership rule is a joke now. When a club like RB Leipzig can have Red Bull own 49% shares in the club and then key company personal “own” a vast majority of the remainder of the 51% of the club then that ceases to be a club and is a business…. The FA and British Government can have as many Royal Enquiries as they want about implementing a similar rule in England but do you not think Abrahmovic, Sheik Mansour, the Glazers, the Boston Red Sox crew etc etc wont be able to buy back and control what they need from their clubs? Its all a scam. Look at the Man City fanbase, who had 100+ years of absolute failure to now praising the benevolence of one of the most horrific, suppressive dictatorships in global history all because they are winning trophies and silverware … Give the masses what they think they want and all will be forgotten. Bread and Circuses just like the last days of Rome …… Messi “having” to leave Barca is actually the death knell that many don’t want to acknowledge in my opinion. If a club like Barca is on the verge of collapsing with debts of almost a billion and Inter Milan winning the Serie A but bankrupting themselves to do so and now “fire selling” Lukaku and all their other players…… There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. Interesting. I feel like you view me watching the a league like I view my friends watching the EPL.perhaps we are all not different Mate, not at all.. Its totally not a personalised thing and I strongly believe everyone can watch whatever the hell club or league they want ... its all soccer in the end yeah? My enjoyment and connection to the game is one thing and yours is another. To be honest I dont understand yours (very generalized "yours" here Im talking about fans of franchise clubs both here and in USA and to some degree even the fans of the big corporatized European clubs these days) because I value the feeling of being part of a community, a tribe, a family of like minded people who place their club and their group above all others - in a sporting sense of course. I feel that my club represents how I view the world (mostly) and I appreciate the fact that I have the opportunity if not always the willpower to have a say in how it continues to do so. One franchise per city, owned by a foreign investor, with an Americanized blah name and carefully market researched colours does NOT represent me and never will. But thats my feel on it and not necessarily the right or wrong one. I have friends who also very strongly follow EPL teams (in fact 99% of the guys I go to watch Hellas with are extremely passionate about their Reds or Spurs or Hammers or whatever) and I totally understand their connection... Having an undying illness for a soccer club is a beautiful thing bud, no matter what the explanation or justification for it is... Let your friends follow whatever teams they want its not up to fans to convert people to follow the Aleague, its up to each individual club in the Aleague to do this themselves, to MAKE people follow them for life, to get sick in their stomachs on a Friday night before a derby and to weep with joy just for getting a point away to the top of the table team.... Australia NEEDS more established clubs, all connected and more opportunities for all to engage. Not just a property developer with a foreign investor group on board pitching the "gotta support the Aleague (pick a team any team who cares) otherwise you hate football" For whatever reason(s) you follow Melbourne City I applaud your passion and commitment and (I doubt it will happen now) will love to welcome you to my "house" to play the FFA cup tie when it is allowed to proceed. Dont worry about the Eurosnobs and NSL bitters and whoever else everyone thinks are bringing down the Aleague
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+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. Ironically, the organisation thats been pushing back against that global super league structure and protecting international football and its domestic competitions is the one thats historically been at the centre of the corruption and been driven by greed and excess... FIFA - who'd have thought.
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+x+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. Ironically, the organisation thats been pushing back against that global super league structure and protecting international football and its domestic competitions is the one thats historically been at the centre of the corruption and been driven by greed and excess... FIFA - who'd have thought. Simples really. FIFA does NOT want to lose control over the billions in revenue that will follow this new rival mafia clan. Its not about protecting international football its about not losing control of the market.......
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThis what happens when you stand still, you let your competitors take advantage of it. What have the APL been doing since they got their independence? Very little news on the w-league and even the y-league for that matter too especially coming to a World Cup in about 2 years from now its very concerning. The w-league not only needs to expand but after we seen with the Matildas's issues they need a much longer season too, the current structure isnt feasible for the Matildas future. 100% this..... AFLW is going to create clubs and players out of thin air in 6 months ... meanwhile FA has 100s of clubs with women's teams Australia wide and 1000s of players already playing the game but ..... something something, ethnics out, no money for travel, don't want to dilute the talent pool, who is going to pay to broadcast it etc etc ad nauseam. You need a vision which is lacking at top end. This what happens when you focus more on metrics rather than growing the game through development which was been profound in the last 16 years. There will eventually be a Euro Super league made up of the top 12-16 teams backed by enormous wealth and it wouldn’t surprise me if it also becomes a cross Atlantic league with US franchises like Atlanta FC and LA Galaxy etc…… Every half decent player will be playing in these 16 teams on massive wages and the rest of the millions of clubs around the world will in essence become feeder clubs developing players to sell to this league to keep afloat. The franchise Aleague/MLS closed shop system is here to stay and despite me and thousands around the world recoiling in horror at the thought, there are billions of young kids who see nothing wrong with “consuming” soccer in this way….. Good news is that most leagues around the world will benefit from disassociating themselves from the arms race that is “Sport Entertainment” and domestic competitions will become a lot more valuable to the local football supporter. Bad news is that the billions of Asian kids buying Messi tops and US kids subscribing to “Super League Streaming TV” will keep this tier locked away from the rest for ever. It will however mean that clubs like Everton, Villa, Palace etc in England experience growth. Clubs like Marseille and OL in France, Roma, Sampdoria, Napoli in Italy and the list goes on…. Totally random thought but dig out an old movie from the late 70s, early 80s called Rollerball with James Caan (Sonny from the Godfather) about what the future of live sport looks like… that’s were I see football heading and it depresses me badly. AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL – SOUTH MELBOURNE HELLAS FOR LIFE. ... sorry for the rant he he he. Ironically, the organisation thats been pushing back against that global super league structure and protecting international football and its domestic competitions is the one thats historically been at the centre of the corruption and been driven by greed and excess... FIFA - who'd have thought. Simples really. FIFA does NOT want to lose control over the billions in revenue that will follow this new rival mafia clan. Its not about protecting international football its about not losing control of the market....... Yes, it's very much a question of control. Precisely why we see FIFA try and take control of all forms of football, regardless of how small and niche the variations might be. I can recall the very early years of futsal, circa 1983 to 1985, they were attempting to become a separate sport with a separate governing body, but in the end, got roped in and placed under the control of FIFA.
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That's where it's heading.
If you want to watch the best 200 players in the world (with a total salary cost of $20 billion annually), then it's pretty clear they are all going to end up in the one super league funded by the richest people on Earth.
Top premier League clubs are the only clubs who don't need to do it in a commercial sense - but every other "big" club in the world has no choice.
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Where will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community.
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+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. Yeah they've got it all over us that's for sure. It helps they have massive deep pockets but contrast them with, was it CCM?, that wanted to put a W-League side in and the FA kiboshed it. FFS.
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+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. I might not be paying enough attention, but aren't some of those players "who've never played before in their like" stars of the Gaelic code from Ireland? There's a tradition of Gaelic/AFL crossover in the men's game (Tadhg Keneally is the biggest name), it's not that big a jump
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+x+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. I might not be paying enough attention, but aren't some of those players "who've never played before in their like" stars of the Gaelic code from Ireland? There's a tradition of Gaelic/AFL crossover in the men's game (Tadhg Keneally is the biggest name), it's not that big a jump There are some footballers who have crossed over. Former Matilda, Brianna Davey, ended up joining a team. For a while, they were even talking about trying to recruit Sam kerr.
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+x+x+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. I might not be paying enough attention, but aren't some of those players "who've never played before in their like" stars of the Gaelic code from Ireland? There's a tradition of Gaelic/AFL crossover in the men's game (Tadhg Keneally is the biggest name), it's not that big a jump There are some footballers who have crossed over. Former Matilda, Brianna Davey, ended up joining a team. For a while, they were even talking about trying to recruit Sam kerr. I'm sure Kerr has had more than enough of the AFL's culture for one lifetime via her brother.
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+x+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. I might not be paying enough attention, but aren't some of those players "who've never played before in their like" stars of the Gaelic code from Ireland? There's a tradition of Gaelic/AFL crossover in the men's game (Tadhg Keneally is the biggest name), it's not that big a jump Last time the AFLW expanded they hit the local Melbourne NPL clubs and Netball clubs pretty hard for players for their comp....
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+xWhere will they get an extra 100 players from? They already have players in the comp who had never played a game before in their life.
The AFL are geniuses. Start a women’s comp, get it paid for by government and sponsors and use funding to boost their own facilities while looking like they’re doing something for the community. It's their competence that's the problem. It's why no one hates Union.
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This is the game.
Ways to get government to contribute funds for sporting infrastructure.
Ways to get sponsors to give you money for whatever reason.
Ways to get more money out of broadcasters.
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+xThis is the game. Ways to get government to contribute funds for sporting infrastructure. Ways to get sponsors to give you money for whatever reason. Ways to get more money out of broadcasters. It was an urgent rearguard action to stop football from receiving more access to grassroots facilities to meet the needs of the women's game which was exploding in popularity. It was a bit of a hail Mary, but they had the resources and clout to pull it off. They've had over a hundred years to start a women's league, but only acted when the Matildas were making headlines in Canada and Cately was on the front cover of FIFA alongside Cahill and Messi; it was the only move. If AFLW was the defensive maneuver, AFLX was the counterattack. Even the most one-eyed AFL fan knows that their sport will never stand a chance overseas, it was all about taking over grassroots facilities. Fortunately, that one didn't take.
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+x+xThis is the game. Ways to get government to contribute funds for sporting infrastructure. Ways to get sponsors to give you money for whatever reason. Ways to get more money out of broadcasters. It was an urgent rearguard action to stop football from receiving more access to grassroots facilities to meet the needs of the women's game which was exploding in popularity. It was a bit of a hail Mary, but they had the resources and clout to pull it off. They've had over a hundred years to start a women's league, but only acted when the Matildas were making headlines in Canada and Cately was on the front cover of FIFA alongside Cahill and Messi; it was the only move. If AFLW was the defensive maneuver, AFLX was the counterattack. Even the most one-eyed AFL fan knows that their sport will never stand a chance overseas, it was all about taking over grassroots facilities . Fortunately, that one didn't take. AFLX has Brisbane Olympics exhibition sport written ALL over it.....
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Davstar
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Good on the AFL(W) for doing what it is doing, i honestly couldnt care less about womens AFL and honestly outside of the matildas in major comps i dont care about womens football But the AFL executives have something football executives havent had since the NSL was disbanded vision on growing the game from a community level. im not a fan of the FFA the new mob are slightly better but imho until we got P/L the Australian FA are useless
these Kangaroos can play football -
Ange P. (Intercontinental WC Play-offs 2017)
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL
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dirk vanadidas
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Is AFLX the transgender version of the game ?
Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club
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