Stajcic shock: Matildas lose coach ahead of World Cup [Comments]


Stajcic shock: Matildas lose coach ahead of World Cup [Comments]

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No they wouldn’t. Stupid if they did. Imagine if any of them publicly did and a new coach arrives who says, so you,re the coach killer, you’re not in my team, bye!

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paulc - 13 Feb 2019 7:10 PM
No they wouldn’t. Stupid if they did. Imagine if any of them publicly did and a new coach arrives who says, so you,re the coach killer, you’re not in my team, bye!

I really doubt that even the FFA are going to replace Stajcic with a coach that has your lack of integrity.

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So a new coach will have no idea about a ticking time bomb because FFA say its confidential.Once they tell the new coach ,they break confidentiality or show that anyone can be told under a new confidentiality agreement.
At the same time now FFA have supposedly identified a toxic culture ,they need to put a process in place to avoid it.

So they will have to define........,'toxic culture 'or the equivalent ,......so employees know what it is and how to avoid it.
Furthermore they will need to define ,what amount of toxic culture amounts to a sackable offence without counseling.
In which case ,we and everyone will know the line to cross and so will Stajcic and his lawyers.
Then FFA have a massive problem,because the toxic culture they define has to include what Stajcic has done.If it doesnt....they get sued.But if the bar is so low it captures the actions of every coach,they will get crucified by everyone as being a joke.

Talk about being between a rock and a hard place....Its just a matter of time now...

As far as i can see,the only way out for FFA is to throw someone under the bus ,,apologise to Stajcic and say he did nothing wrong and that it was a breakdown in internal procedures and most likely pay him compensation to avoid court.
I just cant see anything they can produce that could justify their actions.We have been told there is no smoking gun and producing survey comments from a few disgruntled players bitching about personal grief just wont cut it,without some serious offence identified.
If FFa relies on alleged disgruntled players and Stajcic takes them to court.They will be forced to produce eveidence,not a survey...Lol.Which means those players and FFA people will be in court...Yeh nah....FFA will settle well before then.


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crimsoncrusoe - 13 Feb 2019 7:08 PM

Well said, spoken from the heart.
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Jose at man united environment was described as toxic before he got sacked
Ie players performance decreased and lost faith in the coaching.
Same for the staj with Matilda's,
The England game was the last straw.

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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dirkvanadidas - 13 Feb 2019 8:23 PM
Jose at man united environment was described as toxic before he got sacked
Ie players performance decreased and lost faith in the coaching.
Same for the staj with Matilda's,
The England game was the last straw.

Was waiting for someone to bring the Jose analogy. 

Not sure if the players have lost faith in the coach with Stajcic though. 
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@Dirk,
Lets randomly ,think of any new reason i guess.
Maybe a few toxic players have been shit stirring and this has affected the other players,resulting in poor performances.
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Yeah, you should have seen all the tweets from ManU players saying how shocked they were about Jose’s sacking, and how they didn’t understand why?
Perfect analogy. 🙄
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Just heard an interview with Sam Kerr where she was asked about the replacement Matildas coach. Kerr replied that it would be difficult for a new coach to to adapt "to the culture of the team".  She obviously meant to add "without a HazMat suit".

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clockwork orange - 13 Feb 2019 10:56 PM
Kerr replied that it would be difficult for a new coach to to adapt "to the culture of the team".

To adapt to something means to morph towards it.

Could be that Kerr thinks the culture is fine as it is, and is scared the coach would change the culture that she likes.

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She was definitely implying that it was the incoming coach that would have to change.
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Anyone have a link to the sky news TV Alan Jones interview with Staj not the 2gb radio one? 

I found it on foxtel Go on Demand. Staj asked for the evidence against him and subsequently his lawyers have and they have been denied any of that. Unbelievable. 

The parrot Jones is still a Fuckwit 
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From Dominic Bosso:
“The Board is understood to be furious with the manner in which Stajcic's sacking was handled by Gallop's senior management team, including head of national teams Luke Casserly and head of women's football Emma Highwood.”
Gee, perhaps they should have looked a bit harder at the whole situation BEFORE they unanimously voted in favour? Talk about taking no accountability for their own decision.

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clockwork orange - 14 Feb 2019 9:23 AM
From Dominic Bosso:“The Board is understood to be furious with the manner in which Stajcic's sacking was handled by Gallop's senior management team, including head of national teams Luke Casserly and head of women's football Emma Highwood.”Gee, perhaps they should have looked a bit harder at the whole situation BEFORE they unanimously voted in favour? Talk about taking no accountability for their own decision.

The staggering thing is that the decision FFA made was to sack a successful coach, less than half a year away from the World Cup, which we had a good chance of winning.

Therefore, to sack him, they would have know they jolly well better have a good reason to do so. The fact they can't explain it credibly why they sacked him is beyond words.

It doesn't just border on stupidity. It is stupid.



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johnsmith - 14 Feb 2019 10:01 AM
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The staggering thing is that the decision FFA made was to sack a successful coach, less than half a year away from the World Cup, which we had a good chance of winning.

Therefore, to sack him, they would have know they jolly well better have a good reason to do so. The fact they can't explain it credibly why they sacked him is beyond words.

It doesn't just border on stupidity. It is stupid.


AS said it in his interview with Jones, he heard that there was a political play to get him out. Considering Reid hated him and has been identified as the person leaking to the press, its most likely he was caught in a power-play with her trading favors/votes for the new board, which also explains why it was unanimous.

The review will also be a farce. Firstly the reason it is happening after the settlement with AS is that they will lock him down with a payout & confidentiality agreement, together with releasing a "joint statement" exonerating AS so he can coach again, but not giving him his job back. Its no coincidence AS did his media blitz on the day of the board meeting and FFA are now looking to finalize a new settlement deal today. If FFA has strong grounds to sack AS they wouldn't need a separate settlement agreement. Obviously AS has good lawyers.

So with AS locked down, Reid on extended leave and uncontactable (due to focusing on her "illness") the review will justify FFA decision, give Gallop a slap on the wrist for poor communication and the side show circus continues.









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clockwork orange - 14 Feb 2019 9:23 AM
From Dominic Bosso:“The Board is understood to be furious with the manner in which Stajcic's sacking was handled by Gallop's senior management team, including head of national teams Luke Casserly and head of women's football Emma Highwood.”Gee, perhaps they should have looked a bit harder at the whole situation BEFORE they unanimously voted in favour? Talk about taking no accountability for their own decision.

What about the bird that's on leave?

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No Reid handled it exactly as planned ...apparently.
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clockwork orange - 14 Feb 2019 3:25 PM
No Reid handled it exactly as planned ...apparently.

Fly in cause a ruckus and fly out with Gallop carrying the can? 

Maybe its like this end game where she wanted Stajcic and Gallop gone and they were played off against each other.
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So the likely scenario is Stajcic gets a lot more in compensation,there is an agreement ,whereby FFA state Stajcic is not responsible for any inappropriate conduct and it was never intended to imply he was,but in the circumstances both parties will go their seperate ways with the enhanced severance package.which will prevent Stajcic from making further comments about FFA and his dismissal.


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crimsoncrusoe - 14 Feb 2019 6:10 PM
So the likely scenario is Stajcic gets a lot more in compensation,there is an agreement ,whereby FFA state Stajcic is not responsible for any inappropriate conduct and it was never intended to imply he was,but in the circumstances both parties will go their seperate ways with the enhanced severance package.which will prevent Stajcic from making further comments about FFA and his dismissal.

pretty much nailed it, they may even throw him a future national gig as they are desperate to fix the "brand damage" currently occurring









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I really hope he goes with the f#@ck them approach and goes for the jugular. I want to see it all the dirty backroom deals brought into the public domain so that we can see exactly the sort of individuals we have in charge of our game. It doesn't take a genius to join the dots with the limited information we have. His sacking is clearly been driven by a board member with a disliking for AS and feminist agenda to boot. I hope it was worth it, she's probably ruined the only chance any of us have of seeing one of our National Teams winning a world cup in our lifetimes.  
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I don’t need to tell you....but there a some seriously sick twisted deceitful vicious ego-maniacs running about in this country of ours who love nothing more than to heap misery on others.....I know first hand as I am currently dealing with a few of them now in a legal battle of sorts....I may prevail or I may get cut down....but I will push on until the end
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http://www.espn.com.au/football/fifa-womens-world-cup/0/blog/post/3774704/heartbreak-allegations-and-zero-transparency-the-fallout-from-australias-alen-stajcic-debacle?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Another slur against Stajcic - that of condoning homophobia - totally discredited in this article.
What’s left of the supposed ‘toxic culture’?
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Schwarzer and Mel McLaughlin both slamming his sacking on the Optus sport podcast (sound bites can be found on twitter). Mel spoke particularly well. Other than Lucy (if you knew what Heather Reid told me) Zelic, is there any one, at all out there in support of this decision? Anyone?
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Yeah there’s 3 in total- Lucy, Lurker and of course paulc.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-14/sacked-matildas-coach-alen-stajcic-ffa-board-letter/10813816

FFA strikes back,with more inuendo.But still not one actual case of impropriety.
It's funny that concerns were so significant ,they were ultimatley addressed by surveys ,with one involving Stajcic and vetted by Stjajcic.
That doesnt sound too toxic to me?

The best FFA can nail Stajcic with is alleged statement of a dysfunctional and cancerous environment,which most likely was taken out of context if you consider not everyone within a group will get on with each other.Imagine how the Wallabies must be when you have a vocal homophobe who is a star player?
That's dysfuctional and cancerous.But it's not the coaches fault,eventhough he can state the obvious to management.Surely tou wouldnt sack the Wallabies coach for something beyond his control?

Sorry FFA you still have nothing!
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqqbm3

Leaks part of the narrative and process. Apparently issues were flagged by the FFA Committee (which included those on the current Board) back in July/August last year which led to the PFA survey. 

Still, none of the issues would warrant an immediate sacking imo. And there should have been a management plan put in place to deal with the concerns.
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clockwork orange - 14 Feb 2019 10:31 PM
Yeah there’s 3 in total- Lucy, Lurker and of course paulc.
Where did I say I supported the decision?

I recollect saying, in reference to the board, that they may have got this right. Note the use of the word may. I did not say that they did get it right.
No one other than the board and Gallop have the full facts, upon which the decision was made, to know.

My stance is and was that the FFA board is made up of well qualified and experienced individuals who would have given full consideration to the facts they had in front of them when making the decision.

Burztur may be correct in saying that a bad decision was made. I don't have enough information to know but agree that may be a possibility.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/calls-grow-for-probe-into-stajcic-sacking/news-story/02ca6d1ec0d84df6a0e34acd5d42101c?from=htc_rss

It will be a month tomorrow since FFA rocked the code by dismissing Stajcic over allegations of a toxic culture within the Matildas. Despite constant demands, the head body, which has been under enormous pressure, has refused to go into the fine details, citing legal and confidentiality reasons.

Much of that was reiterated in FFA chairman Chris Nikou’s response yesterday.

The board’s decision to terminate Alen Stajcic’s contract by making the pre-agreed payment in lieu of notice was one that the Board took very seriously,” Nikou wrote.

“It knew that the decision was likely to provoke debate and that a number of constraints of both a legal and ethical nature meant that FFA would be limited in what it could disclose about the information on which the board acted.

“Notwithstanding, having formed the view that it was in the best interests of the Matildas coaching and playing group to change coaches, the board was duty bound to act as it did.

“While the board made a considered and informed decision, we understand that the constraints upon our ability to detail its decision have given rise to frustrations amongst some members and the broader community.

“However, as you recognise in your letter, the constraints, including potential litigation, that have applied to the board continue to apply.”

Nikou went on to list a 10-point summary, much of which is already in the public domain, in which he said “the board believes it adopted a proper process in connection with this matter”. He suggested the FFA board “may decide to make a further public statement about termination of the services of the Matildas coach, but only if we are confident that doing so will not generate legal claims or otherwise prejudice the interests of FFA”.



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Lurker - 15 Feb 2019 2:52 AM
clockwork orange - 14 Feb 2019 10:31 PM
Where did I say I supported the decision?

I recollect saying, in reference to the board, that they may have got this right. Note the use of the word may. I did not say that they did get it right.
No one other than the board and Gallop have the full facts, upon which the decision was made, to know.

My stance is and was that the FFA board is made up of well qualified and experienced individuals who would have given full consideration to the facts they had in front of them when making the decision.

Burztur may be correct in saying that a bad decision was made. I don't have enough information to know but agree that may be a possibility.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/calls-grow-for-probe-into-stajcic-sacking/news-story/02ca6d1ec0d84df6a0e34acd5d42101c?from=htc_rss

It will be a month tomorrow since FFA rocked the code by dismissing Stajcic over allegations of a toxic culture within the Matildas. Despite constant demands, the head body, which has been under enormous pressure, has refused to go into the fine details, citing legal and confidentiality reasons.

Much of that was reiterated in FFA chairman Chris Nikou’s response yesterday.

The board’s decision to terminate Alen Stajcic’s contract by making the pre-agreed payment in lieu of notice was one that the Board took very seriously,” Nikou wrote.

“It knew that the decision was likely to provoke debate and that a number of constraints of both a legal and ethical nature meant that FFA would be limited in what it could disclose about the information on which the board acted.

“Notwithstanding, having formed the view that it was in the best interests of the Matildas coaching and playing group to change coaches, the board was duty bound to act as it did.

“While the board made a considered and informed decision, we understand that the constraints upon our ability to detail its decision have given rise to frustrations amongst some members and the broader community.

“However, as you recognise in your letter, the constraints, including potential litigation, that have applied to the board continue to apply.”

Nikou went on to list a 10-point summary, much of which is already in the public domain, in which he said “the board believes it adopted a proper process in connection with this matter”. He suggested the FFA board “may decide to make a further public statement about termination of the services of the Matildas coach, but only if we are confident that doing so will not generate legal claims or otherwise prejudice the interests of FFA”.



What legal reasons are there not to disclose the particulars unless there is a matter that needs to go to court?
The reasoning of their nondisclosure is innuendo of a matter of a great degree, they mention ethical lines have been crossed, yet there has been no mention of any legal action taken against Stajcic, in fact he was dismissed in a way that say's he did nothing.
Does that constitute slander I wonder?
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