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This season is the perfect opportunity to judge Pay, we are clearly operating with cap restrictions and have tsken some recruiting gambles, so sink or swim, good results this season would be most encouraging.
Spoon or close to it, probably terminal.
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Soooo.... Steve Georgalis it is then!
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I'm wary of recruiting a high profile coach after Des, but someone like Fittler, or Kevie Walters would be my pick.
I want a coach who communicates well and allows the players to play.
Changing coach is always a gamble.
Appart from that get  a coach with NRL experience who doesn't have a current job.
Apparently Simon Woolford (or someone) has got great results in Superleague, so a young coach with a good track record there is a contender.
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I’d have to agree..... but if Pay can get the team around 10th-12th finish in 2019, he’ll get another extension


My gut though tells me that with our cap woes surely behind us come 2020..... we’ll have plenty of $$$$ to spend, will the board want that spent with Pay or with a new coach???
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As expected.... Mick Ennis went to town on the Bulldogs tonight on Fox


He also called the team a ‘Reserve Grade Side’
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Villi - 18 Mar 2019 11:01 PM
As expected.... Mick Ennis went to town on the Bulldogs tonight on FoxHe also called the team a ‘Reserve Grade Side’

Cannot stand Ennis the winey, bitter, bucket mouth. Get over it SOOK. 
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@ lest micheal ennis tells it like it is
you can hate him all you like but what do you want him 2 say ? He dose carry on but he must  have a little soft spot for us
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tony v_2 - 19 Mar 2019 3:13 AM
@ lest micheal ennis tells it like it is
you can hate him all you like but what do you want him 2 say ? He dose carry on but he must  have a little soft spot for us

Havent seen it but I suspect there are some cold hard truths mentioned.

If it's not Ennis, it will be others. Best way to deal with the criticism is to change your ways, put in some good performances and prove them wrong (or right). 
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Marki - 19 Mar 2019 11:26 AM
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Havent seen it but I suspect there are some cold hard truths mentioned.

If it's not Ennis, it will be others. Best way to deal with the criticism is to change your ways, put in some good performances and prove them wrong (or right). 

Ennis never got over being punted by Des, Ennis is mostly right, but constant criticism isn't support.

Pay is quite brave (or foolish) taking on the job in the circumstances where our squad is weak, Pay really needs the players to stand up, back him, play with pride  and purpose.

Sport is 90% effort and preparation, 10% talent, the problem we have in this part of the season is all teams are well prepared, close to full strength and putting are putting in the effort. If we are brutally honest, most of them have us covered in the 10% talent category.
We got better results later last season when teams dropped off the pace, and we improved.

I think Pay is a good guy who might make a good coach, I don't think he is the problem, but he needs the players to turn up play for him, and look well prepared.
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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 11:38 AM
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Ennis never got over being punted by Des, Ennis is mostly right, but constant criticism isn't support.

Pay is quite brave (or foolish) taking on the job in the circumstances where our squad is weak, Pay really needs the players to stand up, back him, play with pride  and purpose.

Sport is 90% effort and preparation, 10% talent, the problem we have in this part of the season is all teams are well prepared, close to full strength and putting are putting in the effort. If we are brutally honest, most of them have us covered in the 10% talent category.
We got better results later last season when teams dropped off the pace, and we improved.

I think Pay is a good guy who might make a good coach, I don't think he is the problem, but he needs the players to turn up play for him, and look well prepared.

Fair fans acknowledge the obstacles faced by Pay and those roster constraints but its hard to work out his tactics and theory in separating combos in Smith/Holland, JJ RFM opposite sides, Lewis/Martin, CHN on bench. I guess it didn't work out on Saturday so he wears it...but he really should not have changed their previous favoured side and/or partner and required them to change style, combos first game after only a 40 minute trial. This probably a factor. Seriously tho who would want to coach us atm. I don't expect he will change the team this week. Fair enough, it gives them a chance to redeem themselves but the centres and wingers defence and effort was woeful.
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Love the kennel , reading a poster saying
he had information that dean pay will pick same
side for parr game , i ask how the *** would he 
Know ! If so & no team changes id say the coach
has lost me period , i  dont 2 see another performance like last game please deano let it happen the team needs some player changes
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Todd = Brisbane Bulldogs?
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DanD - 19 Mar 2019 12:45 PM
Todd = Brisbane Bulldogs?

Makes me wonder who's all buddy buddy with who...
NRLol was presented with the perfect opportunity to fine the Sharks into extinction, take their premiership off them, in turn affect their sponsorships, do something real with regard to salary cap restrictions over the next two years ...
The peptides scandal and ongoing salary cap rorts a missed opportunity when it comes to relocating a lame duck fair weathered fan of a football club...


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BRING BACK THE BILL!! 
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DanD - 19 Mar 2019 12:19 PM
hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 11:38 AM

Fair fans acknowledge the obstacles faced by Pay and those roster constraints but its hard to work out his tactics and theory in separating combos in Smith/Holland, JJ RFM opposite sides, Lewis/Martin, CHN on bench. I guess it didn't work out on Saturday so he wears it...but he really should not have changed their previous favoured side and/or partner and required them to change style, combos first game after only a 40 minute trial. This probably a factor. Seriously tho who would want to coach us atm. I don't expect he will change the team this week. Fair enough, it gives them a chance to redeem themselves but the centres and wingers defence and effort was woeful.

I agree the coach has to at least think it over and see if he made some mistakes. 

The worst kind of coach is one who can't admit when they have made a mistake, they are doomed to keep making the same mistake.

But in the Warriors game the blame is 85% players 15% coach, the coach needs to look in the mirror, the players need a long hard look in the mirror.
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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 3:40 PM
DanD - 19 Mar 2019 12:19 PM

I agree the coach has to at least think it over and see if he made some mistakes. 

The worst kind of coach is one who can't admit when they have made a mistake, they are doomed to keep making the same mistake.

But in the Warriors game the blame is 85% players 15% coach, the coach needs to look in the mirror, the players need a long hard look in the mirror.

Same team.
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DanD - 19 Mar 2019 4:15 PM
hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 3:40 PM

Same team.

I'm not surprised.

These guys might com into contention:-

19. Jack Cogger

20. Nick Meaney

21. Chris Smith

22. Ofahiki Ogden

They were the only names I was considering.


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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 4:39 PM
DanD - 19 Mar 2019 4:15 PM

I'm not surprised.

These guys might com into contention:-

19. Jack Cogger

20. Nick Meaney

21. Chris Smith

22. Ofahiki Ogden

They were the only names I was considering.


Out of those names Chris Smith isn't named in reserve grade, I think he is a good player, NRL standard.
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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 4:39 PM
DanD - 19 Mar 2019 4:15 PM

I'm not surprised.

These guys might com into contention:-

19. Jack Cogger

20. Nick Meaney

21. Chris Smith

22. Ofahiki Ogden

They were the only names I was considering.


I wouldn't be too upset if the same team is given the chance for redemption.
I am more interested in attitude change and for them to come out firing after the abysmal effort in round 1.

If they play poorly again, i'd be calling for heads in round 3. If it is gameplan issues, I would put the coach on notice.


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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 4:39 PM
DanD - 19 Mar 2019 4:15 PM

I'm not surprised.

These guys might com into contention:-

19. Jack Cogger

20. Nick Meaney

21. Chris Smith

22. Ofahiki Ogden

They were the only names I was considering.


Ofa the only one deserving if a spot based in last weeks effort... Smith will handle it when he gets a shot... Cogs was good, but I wanna see a dominant performance before partnering him with lewis... Meaney for mine played soft on kick returns and wasn't on the ball enough...
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Marki - 19 Mar 2019 7:12 PM
hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 4:39 PM

I wouldn't be too upset if the same team is given the chance for redemption.
I am more interested in attitude change and for them to come out firing after the abysmal effort in round 1.

If they play poorly again, i'd be calling for heads in round 3. If it is gameplan issues, I would put the coach on notice.


Yep on all counts...
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dman2018 - 19 Mar 2019 7:14 PM
hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 4:39 PM

Ofa the only one deserving if a spot based in last weeks effort... Smith will handle it when he gets a shot... Cogs was good, but I wanna see a dominant performance before partnering him with lewis... Meaney for mine played soft on kick returns and wasn't on the ball enough...

Not this week  but ....

For Cogs/Meaney I would initially play them off the bench.

For Meaney move Hoppa to centre when he comes on...

For Cogs ,move Lewis to hooker when he comes on.

But .. initially not both at the same time....

We might get more out of both of these options then sticking with JMK....

Reason I think that way is the Cogs and Meaney are the future, or we need to find the future,

Hoppa at fullback isn't the future, and Lewis/Foran is playing without a specialist halfback. Lewis/Foran might work as Lewis is a quick learner, but make no mistake he is learning how to play halfback at NRL level.
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hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 7:24 PM
dman2018 - 19 Mar 2019 7:14 PM

Not this week  but ....

For Cogs/Meaney I would initially play them off the bench.

For Meaney move Hoppa to centre when he comes on...

For Cogs ,move Lewis to hooker when he comes on.

But .. initially not both at the same time....

We might get more out of both of these options then sticking with JMK....

Reason I think that way is the Cogs and Meaney are the future, or we need to find the future,

Hoppa at fullback isn't the future, and Lewis/Foran is playing without a specialist halfback. Lewis/Foran might work as Lewis is a quick learner, but make no mistake he is learning how to play halfback at NRL level.

I'm.not a fan of rejigging several positions during g a game to accommodate a couple of rookie backs... They need to dominate Reggie's this week to change my mind... They're playing behind a solid pack... They need to turn it on...
Or we just back Meaney at 1 and be done with it...
Cogger will be in sooner than later... Hate to admit it, but fox won't last a month the way he plays with that body...
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Hi guys, new poster on here. I needed to leave the kennel, that place was just crazy
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dman2018 - 19 Mar 2019 8:07 PM
hounddog - 19 Mar 2019 7:24 PM

I'm.not a fan of rejigging several positions during g a game to accommodate a couple of rookie backs... They need to dominate Reggie's this week to change my mind... They're playing behind a solid pack... They need to turn it on...
Or we just back Meaney at 1 and be done with it...
Cogger will be in sooner than later... Hate to admit it, but fox won't last a month the way he plays with that body...

Yeah the Meaney thing would be 1 week only.

Cogger probably only a couple of weeks.

Any hope I have of finishing higher than 12th is all those 2 young guys, sooner or later we need to put our chips on the table.
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1Dog_1Bone - 19 Mar 2019 8:13 PM
Hi guys, new poster on here. I needed to leave the kennel, that place was just crazy

Welcome aboard not surprised about the Kennel, I never go there....

Times are tough, but the club and coach and players are trying hard to turn it around. 
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1Dog_1Bone - 19 Mar 2019 8:13 PM
Hi guys, new poster on here. I needed to leave the kennel, that place was just crazy

You ain't seen nothing yet! ;)
Welcome to the BDP  DB!...
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You ain't seen nothing yet! ;)
Welcome to the BDP  DB!...

How long before Vili gets DB on the Lachlan Coote train? 
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Dog Bone.... let me give you a tip, keep well away from Dman.


On the field, he’s a niggler..... off it, he’s the headline act at the Sylvania retirement village every Friday night
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