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+x I wouldn’t make mass changes as it will be detrimental. I think a few subtle changes may do the trick. 1. Hoppa 2. Smith ( R ) 3. Holland ( R ) 4. CHN ( L ) 5. Crichton ( L ) 6. Foran 7. Lewis 8. Tolman 9. JMK 10. Napa 11. Jackson ( R ) 12. Martin ( L ) 13. Elliott 14. Cogger 15. Fualalo 16. Ogden 17. RFM Close to what I would go with. I might start Fualalo and move Tolman to the bench. (But we can try that some other time.) I watched the first half of reserve grade, the 9, Cogger, Martin and Smith all good, Ogden was our best player. Cogger throws a great pass to put a player into a gap, or give a player time, bring him on and move Lewis to hooker when JMK goes off IMO. Smith fairly good and a bit unlucky, but I can see why you went with Martin,.... I don't think we have the quality in reserve grade to go with mass changes.
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+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go....
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+x+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go.... No to Fualalo, yes to the other three.
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+x+x+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go.... No to Fualalo, yes to the other three. I would have said the same thing last year, so far Danny seems better this year, he made 100 metres in both games, and looked reasonable in defence to me. We need forwards who can make yards.
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+x+x+x+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go.... No to Fualalo, yes to the other three. I would have said the same thing last year, so far Danny seems better this year, he made 100 metres in both games, and looked reasonable in defence to me. We need forwards who can make yards. I admit he is running better but still misses tackles, can't tackle hard and gives stupid penalties away. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Come to think of it we have a lot of dimes.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI thought they improved a heck of a lot in the first half hour compared to last week. Plenty of enthusiasm & confidence, which in turn sapped Parra of theirs, forcing them into fumbling bumbling errors. It was looking like Parra were going to have one of those days & lose the match, regardless of whether Canterbury did enough to win it themselves. However, once the Canterbury reserves came on, suddenly Canterbury were the team fumbling & bumbling. Parra took their gifted opportunities, then got their confidence & enthusiasm back. Canterbury lost theirs & never recovered. A much improved first half, but the 2nd half floodgates opened again... The improved start is great but there's some major problems to fix. It reminds me of the Norths & Souths teams of the 80's. They were usually down in the bottom 4 & could barely get a win at the best of times. Yet so many times, they'd put in a great first half, even leading at half time against top teams, just to come out & let in 20 or 30 points & lose in a flogging. Even if the scoreline was close or level with a minute to go, they wouldn't be the team to snatch a win, it was always their opponents. The backbone of a top side, just a player or 2 missing to consistently complete a victorious 80mins... BN I think we have to be patient and hope for the best, there is no alternative. I'm not so impressed with our start last game, but in both games we did some good things and IMO the halves combination of Lewis and Foran is the best we have had for sometime. We are missing JMoz big time in defence, we have taken a calculated gamble there, and probably got it wrong.... Harper is the long term replacement there (we hope) What is worrying more than anything is our side can't seem to handle big fast outside backs running hard at us, I think we we can find good settled combinations for each edge and work together as a team we will get better results in attack and defence. At this stage it doesn't look like our team can physically match a lot of the other teams, if we have money to spend before June 30 we need to strengthen a few areas, If our edge defence and yardage up the middle is working better, our halves will look better, they are not the problem, which is good as halves are the hardest problem to fix quickly. I haven't given up hope of avoiding the spoon, but making the 8 looks like a long shot form here. So what teams would be desperate enough to take players off our hands so we can buy someone? I think we might be able to do player swaps, if other teams have cap problems. We might be able to add development players than can go on to play NRL. What is happening with Renouf T? Is he injured? Pay probably needs Harper, Meaney, Cogger/Wakeham, Meaney, Renouf T and some of the other young guys to step up, more of the same each week, and I can't see him lasting too long. If we switch Holland back to the right,left centre is a big defensive problem, probably why Holland is on the left, but we need Plan B, Plan A was a dud. Renouf has hamstring problems will be out a few weeks longer. Holland can't defend either side. So why was Holland switched, perhaps Montoya can't play right? Regardless, Holland/Smith worked well on the right last year, this is the team change I don't understand Yes, I think when defence seems to be your biggest issue, you need to revert back to what worked out best for you previously. That means Holland to right, Montoya to left and Martin at starting 12 with RFM on bench. I could have sworn Montoya played left centre a couple of time last year before he got injured. No? We either have to stop teams scoring more than 18 points, or score more than 24 ourselves.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI thought they improved a heck of a lot in the first half hour compared to last week. Plenty of enthusiasm & confidence, which in turn sapped Parra of theirs, forcing them into fumbling bumbling errors. It was looking like Parra were going to have one of those days & lose the match, regardless of whether Canterbury did enough to win it themselves. However, once the Canterbury reserves came on, suddenly Canterbury were the team fumbling & bumbling. Parra took their gifted opportunities, then got their confidence & enthusiasm back. Canterbury lost theirs & never recovered. A much improved first half, but the 2nd half floodgates opened again... The improved start is great but there's some major problems to fix. It reminds me of the Norths & Souths teams of the 80's. They were usually down in the bottom 4 & could barely get a win at the best of times. Yet so many times, they'd put in a great first half, even leading at half time against top teams, just to come out & let in 20 or 30 points & lose in a flogging. Even if the scoreline was close or level with a minute to go, they wouldn't be the team to snatch a win, it was always their opponents. The backbone of a top side, just a player or 2 missing to consistently complete a victorious 80mins... BN I think we have to be patient and hope for the best, there is no alternative. I'm not so impressed with our start last game, but in both games we did some good things and IMO the halves combination of Lewis and Foran is the best we have had for sometime. We are missing JMoz big time in defence, we have taken a calculated gamble there, and probably got it wrong.... Harper is the long term replacement there (we hope) What is worrying more than anything is our side can't seem to handle big fast outside backs running hard at us, I think we we can find good settled combinations for each edge and work together as a team we will get better results in attack and defence. At this stage it doesn't look like our team can physically match a lot of the other teams, if we have money to spend before June 30 we need to strengthen a few areas, If our edge defence and yardage up the middle is working better, our halves will look better, they are not the problem, which is good as halves are the hardest problem to fix quickly. I haven't given up hope of avoiding the spoon, but making the 8 looks like a long shot form here. So what teams would be desperate enough to take players off our hands so we can buy someone? I think we might be able to do player swaps, if other teams have cap problems. We might be able to add development players than can go on to play NRL. What is happening with Renouf T? Is he injured? Pay probably needs Harper, Meaney, Cogger/Wakeham, Meaney, Renouf T and some of the other young guys to step up, more of the same each week, and I can't see him lasting too long. If we switch Holland back to the right,left centre is a big defensive problem, probably why Holland is on the left, but we need Plan B, Plan A was a dud. Renouf has hamstring problems will be out a few weeks longer. Holland can't defend either side. So why was Holland switched, perhaps Montoya can't play right? Regardless, Holland/Smith worked well on the right last year, this is the team change I don't understand Jackson is playing crap on the left also. You can't change a side around to fit in a player that shouldn't be in 1st grade in the first place. This decision worries me about Pay. You are right about Jackson. He has been rather poor in both games, but close to our worst in game 1. Not sure what it is, but he is a shadow of his former self in attack and defence
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+xThe Bulldogs for approximately the past 2-3yrs now have really struggled when teams have the momentum to swing it back our way.... we don’t cope at allSomething comes over the entire team Its our negative tactics Villi. We don't play to beat the opposition, we play to allow the opposition to lose to us. When you have the above mentality and gameplan, little things like the ref rules, weather, luck and injuries all have an immediate effect on your performance and end result. What we need, is a gameplan that allows us to moderate the style to suit the gameday conditions. This is what the top teams can do. If its raining, they can switch from expansive to tight one out stuff, but when it dries up, they can start expansive play again. If they cop fatigue or injuries they can kick for touch and buy themselves time to re-adjust their positions and energy levels. If they are losing the territorial ground, they can kick early and send the ball into opposition territory. We seem to still be very much 1 dimensional. We have a gameplan, but if it fails, that's it. We don't seem to have a plan B.
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+x I wouldn’t make mass changes as it will be detrimental. I think a few subtle changes may do the trick. 1. Hoppa 2. Smith ( R ) 3. Holland ( R ) 4. CHN ( L ) 5. Crichton ( L ) 6. Foran 7. Lewis 8. Tolman 9. JMK 10. Napa 11. Jackson ( R ) 12. Martin ( L ) 13. Elliott 14. Cogger 15. Fualalo 16. Ogden 17. RFM I am very much in favour of this team. It can defend, it has a decent amount of games under its belt (individually) and I like the inclusion of another half on the bench.
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+x+x+x+x+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go.... No to Fualalo, yes to the other three. I would have said the same thing last year, so far Danny seems better this year, he made 100 metres in both games, and looked reasonable in defence to me. We need forwards who can make yards. I admit he is running better but still misses tackles, can't tackle hard and gives stupid penalties away. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Come to think of it we have a lot of dimes. I'm sure we have $2 worth :)
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+x+x+x+x+xWe have 8 off contract this year and I would only re-sign 3. That leaves 5 spots they can improve for 2020 with better talent who are actually 1st grade standard. If this is the list:- OFF CONTRACT 2019 Fa'amanu Brown, Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Michael Lichaa, Rhyse Martin, John Olive, Francis Tualau I would keep:- Danny Fualalo, Morgan Harper, Tui Katoa, Rhyse Martin Very happy to see most of the others go.... No to Fualalo, yes to the other three. I would have said the same thing last year, so far Danny seems better this year, he made 100 metres in both games, and looked reasonable in defence to me. We need forwards who can make yards. I admit he is running better but still misses tackles, can't tackle hard and gives stupid penalties away. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Come to think of it we have a lot of dimes. Damn......
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Just switching talk to AFL and the pundits had Hawthorn slipping this year while they expected Adelaide to be fancied as premiership contender.
Hawks comprehensively beat them in their own backyard on Sat night. Ran away with it comfortably.
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Just seen both Jackson & Tolman on the news talking about the team needing to work on defence.....
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And switching back again to League... Our one dimentional game plan sounds all too familiar. Hmmmm Desball v 2.0.
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+xAnd switching back again to League... Our one dimentional game plan sounds all too familiar. Hmmmm Desball v 2.0. I don't think that is the problem, our attack is much better, our defence is much worse. Funnily enough both of our haves are way better defenders that most of the halves we have had recently. Both of our halves are better in attack and our kicking game is better than it has been for most of the DesBall era. for once that isn't the problem. But there are major issues in just about every other aspect of the team you like to mention, if the team was a car it is a rusty old out of rego banger we brought from a dubious character in a shady area on a dark night, we are just hoping and paying it starts so we can get out of there. (not a personal experience .. well not this bit ... "from a dubious character in a shady area on a dark night") As we are working on defence we should be doing 75% defence and 25% attack, attack is better but still needs polish. We need an edge backrower who can run off Lewis...
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Tolman to prop
Jackson to Half
Gladys to the Leadership
Raelene to the Castle
Des to the Hasler
Mueller to the Jail
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI thought they improved a heck of a lot in the first half hour compared to last week. Plenty of enthusiasm & confidence, which in turn sapped Parra of theirs, forcing them into fumbling bumbling errors. It was looking like Parra were going to have one of those days & lose the match, regardless of whether Canterbury did enough to win it themselves. However, once the Canterbury reserves came on, suddenly Canterbury were the team fumbling & bumbling. Parra took their gifted opportunities, then got their confidence & enthusiasm back. Canterbury lost theirs & never recovered. A much improved first half, but the 2nd half floodgates opened again... The improved start is great but there's some major problems to fix. It reminds me of the Norths & Souths teams of the 80's. They were usually down in the bottom 4 & could barely get a win at the best of times. Yet so many times, they'd put in a great first half, even leading at half time against top teams, just to come out & let in 20 or 30 points & lose in a flogging. Even if the scoreline was close or level with a minute to go, they wouldn't be the team to snatch a win, it was always their opponents. The backbone of a top side, just a player or 2 missing to consistently complete a victorious 80mins... BN I think we have to be patient and hope for the best, there is no alternative. I'm not so impressed with our start last game, but in both games we did some good things and IMO the halves combination of Lewis and Foran is the best we have had for sometime. We are missing JMoz big time in defence, we have taken a calculated gamble there, and probably got it wrong.... Harper is the long term replacement there (we hope) What is worrying more than anything is our side can't seem to handle big fast outside backs running hard at us, I think we we can find good settled combinations for each edge and work together as a team we will get better results in attack and defence. At this stage it doesn't look like our team can physically match a lot of the other teams, if we have money to spend before June 30 we need to strengthen a few areas, If our edge defence and yardage up the middle is working better, our halves will look better, they are not the problem, which is good as halves are the hardest problem to fix quickly. I haven't given up hope of avoiding the spoon, but making the 8 looks like a long shot form here. So what teams would be desperate enough to take players off our hands so we can buy someone? I think we might be able to do player swaps, if other teams have cap problems. We might be able to add development players than can go on to play NRL. What is happening with Renouf T? Is he injured? Pay probably needs Harper, Meaney, Cogger/Wakeham, Meaney, Renouf T and some of the other young guys to step up, more of the same each week, and I can't see him lasting too long. If we switch Holland back to the right,left centre is a big defensive problem, probably why Holland is on the left, but we need Plan B, Plan A was a dud. Renouf has hamstring problems will be out a few weeks longer. Holland can't defend either side. So why was Holland switched, perhaps Montoya can't play right? Regardless, Holland/Smith worked well on the right last year, this is the team change I don't understand Jackson is playing crap on the left also. You can't change a side around to fit in a player that shouldn't be in 1st grade in the first place. This decision worries me about Pay. You are right about Jackson. He has been rather poor in both games, but close to our worst in game 1. Not sure what it is, but he is a shadow of his former self in attack and defence Too much muscle has affected his speed and lateral movement...
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+x+xAnd switching back again to League... Our one dimentional game plan sounds all too familiar. Hmmmm Desball v 2.0. I don't think that is the problem, our attack is much better, our defence is much worse. Funnily enough both of our haves are way better defenders that most of the halves we have had recently. Both of our halves are better in attack and our kicking game is better than it has been for most of the DesBall era. for once that isn't the problem. But there are major issues in just about every other aspect of the team you like to mention, if the team was a car it is a rusty old out of rego banger we brought from a dubious character in a shady area on a dark night, we are just hoping and paying it starts so we can get out of there. (not a personal experience .. well not this bit ... "from a dubious character in a shady area on a dark night") As we are working on defence we should be doing 75% defence and 25% attack, attack is better but still needs polish. We need an edge backrower who can run off Lewis... Not sure about that. You are right in that we need to focus on defence but we have leaked lots of points from broken down attack. We still look too eager and programmed to get the ball out wide, that we are an intercept waiting to happen. I'd I were defending against us, I'd probably score a hatrick in just intercepts. Until we introduce some unpredictability in our attack, I wont be happy. This is why I always felt Josh Reynolds was such a key for us. He was one of very few (Kasisno the other one) that you couldn't predict. His over enthusiasm also got the team going after a big play. Nowadays we have no one. Maybe Lewis, but he is on his own and not at the JR level. The rest of the team is completely predictable along with some real notorious ones in Tolman and Lichaa. Look at Souths, Storm, Roosters even Cronulla. In fact look at every other team and think about how predictable or unpredictable their players are or can be. ....you have now found your wooden spooners...
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+xTolman to prop Jackson to Half Gladys to the Leadership Raelene to the Castle Des to the Hasler Mueller to the Jail Speaking of Mueller....wasnt he the one to incriminate Trump? What happened Zef? I thought this was his downfall.....
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Martin will return on an edge in place of Raymond Faitala-Mariner who has been dropped to the reserves. Nick Meaney will make his Bulldogs debut at fullback with Will Hopoate shifting to centre at the expense of Marcelo Montoya who has also been dropped. Winger Jayden Okunbor is in line to make his NRL debut. He is expected to replace new recruit Christian Crichton on the left edge. Forward Ofahiki Ogden will be promoted into the top 17 from Canterbury Cup and replace Danny Fualalo on the bench. Jeremy Marshall-King will retain his starting spot at hooker ahead of Michael Lichaa, who will again start on the bench.
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+xMartin will return on an edge in place of Raymond Faitala-Mariner who has been dropped to the reserves. Nick Meaney will make his Bulldogs debut at fullback with Will Hopoate shifting to centre at the expense of Marcelo Montoya who has also been dropped. Winger Jayden Okunbor is in line to make his NRL debut. He is expected to replace new recruit Christian Crichton on the left edge. Forward Ofahiki Ogden will be promoted into the top 17 from Canterbury Cup and replace Danny Fualalo on the bench. Jeremy Marshall-King will retain his starting spot at hooker ahead of Michael Lichaa, who will again start on the bench. BN is this official or just a rumour?
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And where will Suaso Sue be in all this?
He looks small, underweight & just not the type of forward the Dogs tend to have...
He has been poor, especially yesterday.
Ogden is the only player that deserves promotion..... Meaney was poor yesterday, Jayden not much better.... but who cares, let’s try something different after leaking 80 odd points
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+x+xMartin will return on an edge in place of Raymond Faitala-Mariner who has been dropped to the reserves. Nick Meaney will make his Bulldogs debut at fullback with Will Hopoate shifting to centre at the expense of Marcelo Montoya who has also been dropped. Winger Jayden Okunbor is in line to make his NRL debut. He is expected to replace new recruit Christian Crichton on the left edge. Forward Ofahiki Ogden will be promoted into the top 17 from Canterbury Cup and replace Danny Fualalo on the bench. Jeremy Marshall-King will retain his starting spot at hooker ahead of Michael Lichaa, who will again start on the bench. BN is this official or just a rumour? from Daily Telegraph.... also, just listening to Fox Sports in the background, one of them said 4 or 5 changes to this weeks team. I think they'll both be proven right tomorrow or at least very close.
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Let’s be serious here about the Top 30..... how is Zac Saddler even part of it?
Don’t know the kid, never seen him play, but could be a year or two away from 1st grade..... put a player like that as a development player. Add to that John Olive who will never see 1st grade at Belmore
That free’s up 2 spots with still some $$$ left to spend from dog face Klemmer leaving to go after a couple of outside backs that are on the cusp of first grade elsewhere but wanting a chance to shine..... Come to Belmore & show your worth for a longer & bigger $$ deal.
Again just a suggestion as our Top 30 is in need of change now.
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+x+x+xMartin will return on an edge in place of Raymond Faitala-Mariner who has been dropped to the reserves. Nick Meaney will make his Bulldogs debut at fullback with Will Hopoate shifting to centre at the expense of Marcelo Montoya who has also been dropped. Winger Jayden Okunbor is in line to make his NRL debut. He is expected to replace new recruit Christian Crichton on the left edge. Forward Ofahiki Ogden will be promoted into the top 17 from Canterbury Cup and replace Danny Fualalo on the bench. Jeremy Marshall-King will retain his starting spot at hooker ahead of Michael Lichaa, who will again start on the bench. BN is this official or just a rumour? from Daily Telegraph.... also, just listening to Fox Sports in the background, one of them said 4 or 5 changes to this weeks team. I think they'll both be proven right tomorrow or at least very close. If am surpised RFM in particular is being dropped, was ordinary against the Warriors, but fairly good against Parra.
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+xLet’s be serious here about the Top 30..... how is Zac Saddler even part of it?Don’t know the kid, never seen him play, but could be a year or two away from 1st grade..... put a player like that as a development player. Add to that John Olive who will never see 1st grade at BelmoreThat free’s up 2 spots with still some $$$ left to spend from dog face Klemmer leaving to go after a couple of outside backs that are on the cusp of first grade elsewhere but wanting a chance to shine..... Come to Belmore & show your worth for a longer & bigger $$ deal. Again just a suggestion as our Top 30 is in need of change now. Zaddler is a good young kid apparently a good player, has had injury issues.
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+x+x+xMartin will return on an edge in place of Raymond Faitala-Mariner who has been dropped to the reserves. Nick Meaney will make his Bulldogs debut at fullback with Will Hopoate shifting to centre at the expense of Marcelo Montoya who has also been dropped. Winger Jayden Okunbor is in line to make his NRL debut. He is expected to replace new recruit Christian Crichton on the left edge. Forward Ofahiki Ogden will be promoted into the top 17 from Canterbury Cup and replace Danny Fualalo on the bench. Jeremy Marshall-King will retain his starting spot at hooker ahead of Michael Lichaa, who will again start on the bench. BN is this official or just a rumour? from Daily Telegraph.... also, just listening to Fox Sports in the background, one of them said 4 or 5 changes to this weeks team. I think they'll both be proven right tomorrow or at least very close. If true it is proving that Pay is concerned and losing patience fast. That many changes is rather drastic, although bringing in Martin and Ogden seems a no brainer. They played the best part of half year last year and would stiffen up the defence. They might be better off playing Reimis at centre and Meany on wing. That's usually the better way to bring in a young back. Anyway, it should send a wake up call to all the players that the axe is swinging...
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is there any way we can salvage our season? they have been awful
Why do they look so unfit and underdone? What was the point of appointing Tony Ayoub?
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I would have thought Cogger would be ahead of Meaney for a FG spot.
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Witnit
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+x+xTolman to prop Jackson to Half Gladys to the Leadership Raelene to the Castle Des to the Hasler Mueller to the Jail Speaking of Mueller....wasnt he the one to incriminate Trump? What happened Zef? I thought this was his downfall..... The champagne socialists were getting so excited. What a fizzer. LOL!
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