Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda.

Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale.

I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. 
Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. 
Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. 
Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. 
I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. 
You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. 

Your co-worker can't be very bright then. I honestly have no idea how anyone can believe the shit Alex Jones says.

Is this the same co-worker you've mentioned on here before?

Can you please list the 8 countries Trump is bombing? 

Yep. Actually had a go at him  2 weeks ago. He goes you held  that In? I go I tend to let a lot things slide with you mate . Until you asked me the most stupidest question which was how do my wife and I get along because I'm catholic and she's Muslim 

I agree with pretty much everything you're saying but in the case of Venezuela its a bit of a special case. Maduro has done some real dodgy and undemocratic stuff. According to the constitution of Venezuela, the President of the National Assembly should be the president in this situation which is Guiado. What Trump is doing with Iran is perplexing though.

He sure is.  Watch Sam Harris take him to pieces.  Also any evolutionary biologist with half a brain debunks a lot of his talking points.  There are plenty of others.

People love him though.  He 'DESTROYS' SJW's which seems to be a big thing on the interwebs.

Thanks for the info. I never knew that but I knew Maduro was a bit of a dictator. Having said that, it's up to Venezuela to resolve what's going on in their own country and the US shouldn't be meddling in other nations affairs.

I agree with you on that. Would it be fair to say you also agree that America had no right in trying to overthrow Assad of Syria?

Jordan Peterson is the stupid mans smart person, a sophist of the highest order. 

100%

Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and Niger.

https://medium.com/@williamhartung55/from-endless-war-to-diplomacy-first-time-for-a-new-foreign-policy-18d9d10ffdf

So I ended up watching the debate which was just under 2 hours. It was Jordan Peterson against Sam Harris with Douglas Murray as host. 
The one and only question Jordan refused to answer was if he himself believes in religion, however he did state he doesn't go to church. He explains his reasons for not answering but didn't give a simple yes or no. 
As for every other question thrown at him he answered with ease. I waited for just one example of Sam ripping Jordan to pieces and it never came. Jordan easily won the debate, and besides that Sam made himself look like nothing but a delusional hypocrite. On more than one occasion he got rocked, and not only by Jordan but Douglas himself. 
Sorry but there's no way I'm putting this guy above Jordan Peterson. Yes he's definitely smart, but clearly not on Jordan's level in my opinion. 
It was a good debate but to be honest they debated about religion for 2 hours. I expected a range of different topics so I could know Sam's views on things other than religion, but it wasn't the case. 
I also find it sad, embarrassing, and funny that whenever Sam tried to attack Christianity he simply used examples of other religions to bring up negatives about believing in God.

@RobFor someone who’s developed an entire cult of personality around fighting the “post-modern neo-marxists” (which is a literal contradiction in terms), it was pretty damning when he admitted that the only Marxist thought he’s read was the Communist manifesto. Zizek made him look like the fraud he is during their debate, I encourage you to watch it.

You're good to debate with, even when we don't see eye to eye on a certain topic, but I'm glad we both agree on this 😁

Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan were all wars that were inherited. They were not started by the Trump administration.

There was a global war on terror - against ISIL in both Iraq and Syria. And are we or are we not glad that the US and allies dispensed with this terrible organization at least in Iraq and Syria?

And to think, that Trump delivered victory over ISIL in Iraq and Syria.

I challenge you over Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and Niger because that is not the case at all.

@RobFor someone who’s developed an entire cult of personality around fighting the “post-modern neo-marxists” (which is a literal contradiction in terms), it was pretty damning when he admitted that the only Marxist thought he’s read was the Communist manifesto. Zizek made him look like the fraud he is during their debate, I encourage you to watch it.

Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan were all wars that were inherited. They were not started by the Trump administration. "

They were but he has continued those wars.

There was a global war on terror - against ISIL in both Iraq and Syria. And are we or are we not glad that the US and allies dispensed with this terrible organization at least in Iraq and Syria? 
And to think, that Trump delivered victory over ISIL in Iraq and Syria. "



"I challenge you over Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and Niger because that is not the case at all. "

It is and I have mentioned Yemen many times in this thread already.

In all honesty in Syria alone, the most credit clearly goes to Putin. Without his help Syria could have been destroyed by now by the terrorist groups. 

Thanks for the info. I never knew that but I knew Maduro was a bit of a dictator. Having said that, it's up to Venezuela to resolve what's going on in their own country and the US shouldn't be meddling in other nations affairs.

Agreed, the last thing that Venezuela needs is a Pinochet. Sanctions and a declaration about the legitimacy of the current regime I think is fine though. Trouble is of course that there's Russia and China meddling on the other side.

Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan were all wars that were inherited. They were not started by the Trump administration. "

They were but he has continued those wars.

There was a global war on terror - against ISIL in both Iraq and Syria. And are we or are we not glad that the US and allies dispensed with this terrible organization at least in Iraq and Syria? 
And to think, that Trump delivered victory over ISIL in Iraq and Syria. "

The US only played a minor role. Most of the credit should be going to the Iraqi, Syrian and Kurdish armies.

"I challenge you over Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and Niger because that is not the case at all. "

It is and I have mentioned Yemen many times in this thread already.

His self-help stuff is neither here nor there, I’m not talking about that though. I’m refereeing to his political stances (for which he is most famous and rose to prominence over). Almost all of his philosophical/political beliefs come from fighting the “neo-Marxism” that he says manifests itself in things like gay-rights, trans-rights, racial and economic equality. It’s pretty embarrassing for a supposed public intellectual to have never even read the most entry-level texts of the philosophy he spends most of the time complaining about. It’s all a ruse to cash in on the anti-SJW gravy train and he’s dressed it up in pseudo-philosophy so people who listen to him think he’s profound. As he said on Joe Rogan - “I’ve found a way to monetise SJWs”.

Agreed, the last thing that Venezuela needs is a Pinochet. Sanctions and a declaration about the legitimacy of the current regime I think is fine though. Trouble is of course that there's Russia and China meddling on the other side.