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+x+x+x So good :D It is surprising there hasn't been more foot in mouth syndrome with those there. -PB That's because between the rampant homophobia and islamaphobia on display by the lesser candidates they can't get a word in. Where do they find these people? Pentacostal Chuches rofl -PB
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+x+x+x+x+xFor 20 minutes Leigh Sales tore Shorten a new one last night but apparently ummm.... bias?! I thought it was a pretty fair interview, Leigh asked the tough questions which is what you expect an ABC journalist to do. I hope she does the same with Morrison. It's not a surprise that some partisans are calling bias, I can understand it to an extent because some media outlets (*cough* Murdoch) are pushing a very obvious agenda but anything anti-Labor is attacked pretty hard. The story before it though. The dude with a million dollar boat and a berth in a marina. By his figures we taxpayers are subsidising this guy $288 a week on top of his dividends. I mean good for you that you like boating but find some other way to subsidise your hobbies. I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Generally the ABC is seen a haven of lefty, pinko, pseudo communists that give the Left a free ride. Of course that manifests itself as screams of BIAS for anyone on the right.. My point was if there was an inherent 'bias' then it certainly wasn't on display last night. Oh OK yes. I agree. You may not be following auspol on Twitter, but there is definitely an army of Labor partisans (and I suspect a reasonable number of bots) that are attacking the media personalities for bias. I definitely saw some tweets claiming bias about that Sales interview hence the reply. Happens with Liberal partisans too of course. Friendly Jordy claims ABC bias as well from the Labor side. I mean gee, if you claim bias favoring the LNP from the ABC then explain that Sunday program (I literally can't remember the name), with that old guy.ABC version of Sky News outsiders basically. I don't mind ABC having programs that favour Shorten, but if they are going o do that they should have some other hacks or programs that swing the other way. Public broadcaster should be down the middle. I understand that there are other media outlets that favor coalition but the Labor Party also has the SMH, and the Age too. Don't have a problem with any of that as long as it remains opinion and not masquerade as reporting which it isn't. Insiders dude, Sky News Outsiders, is the Sky News version of Insiders lol. And Barry Cassidy etc are barely biased on that show, they have plenty of "right wing" media types on there all the time. -PB
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And she's been disendorsed. Mark Humphries skit on 730 last night was great :laugh:https://twitter.com/markhumphries/status/1124059268326596609
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paulbagzFC
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Was that the bird with the doctored pics? Then more came out lol? -PB
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+x+x+x+x+x+xFor 20 minutes Leigh Sales tore Shorten a new one last night but apparently ummm.... bias?! I thought it was a pretty fair interview, Leigh asked the tough questions which is what you expect an ABC journalist to do. I hope she does the same with Morrison. It's not a surprise that some partisans are calling bias, I can understand it to an extent because some media outlets (*cough* Murdoch) are pushing a very obvious agenda but anything anti-Labor is attacked pretty hard. The story before it though. The dude with a million dollar boat and a berth in a marina. By his figures we taxpayers are subsidising this guy $288 a week on top of his dividends. I mean good for you that you like boating but find some other way to subsidise your hobbies. I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Generally the ABC is seen a haven of lefty, pinko, pseudo communists that give the Left a free ride. Of course that manifests itself as screams of BIAS for anyone on the right.. My point was if there was an inherent 'bias' then it certainly wasn't on display last night. Oh OK yes. I agree. You may not be following auspol on Twitter, but there is definitely an army of Labor partisans (and I suspect a reasonable number of bots) that are attacking the media personalities for bias. I definitely saw some tweets claiming bias about that Sales interview hence the reply. Happens with Liberal partisans too of course. Friendly Jordy claims ABC bias as well from the Labor side. I mean gee, if you claim bias favoring the LNP from the ABC then explain that Sunday program (I literally can't remember the name), with that old guy.ABC version of Sky News outsiders basically. I don't mind ABC having programs that favour Shorten, but if they are going o do that they should have some other hacks or programs that swing the other way. Public broadcaster should be down the middle. I understand that there are other media outlets that favor coalition but the Labor Party also has the SMH, and the Age too. Don't have a problem with any of that as long as it remains opinion and not masquerade as reporting which it isn't. Insiders dude, Sky News Outsiders, is the Sky News version of Insiders lol. And Barry Cassidy etc are barely biased on that show, they have plenty of "right wing" media types on there all the time. -PB Yeh thanks for that. Yes Insiders with Cassidy - that one is biased towards the left for sure. I reckon Cassidy is biased quite a bit. Granted they have right wing types on the show. But Paul Murray has left wing people on as well, and he is biased. Outsiders on Sky News is very much biased to the LNP. Also Paul Murray, and Bolt etc etc. Sky News after dark is basically an LNP mouthpiece. In the end, they can have all the opinion shows they like, but in the case of ABC, they should balance it out a bit. Have 1 show biased to the left is fine, but have another biased to the right for balance. As for Sky news, well after Dark they are so biased it isn't even funny. To use the term bias is an understatement.
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Wow, Luke Creasy, the teenage pimply faced Labour candidate's political career in tatters.
Time to go back to School son...
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Reality TV at its best. https://tvtonight.com.au/2019/05/you-cant-ask-that-may-1.htmlhttps://iview.abc.net.au/collection/979The politician one is excellent as are all the others. The domestic violence one should be compulsory viewing.
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paulbagzFC
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Lul ALP lad is goneskies. Social Media is dropping these plebs like flies. -PB
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+xSocial Media is dropping these plebs like flies.
Lesson for all in life. Don't be a dickhead and don't post dickhead comments online.
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+x+xSocial Media is dropping these plebs like flies.
Lesson for all in life. Don't be a dickhead and don't post dickhead comments online. I could never run for politics based on my 442 posts rofl -PB
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On the topic of media bias, Sky News really came out in support of Billy Shortfused.
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Keating was interviewed yesterday after the Labor campaign launch. So good
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+xKeating was interviewed yesterday after the Labor campaign launch. So good Flashback to the days we had great charismatic Government - Hawke, Keating, Howard I bet he is less than enthusiastic about Shortfused but keeping up appearances because he has to.
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Can any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling?
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+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? Think of it as an economic issue. We need to convert our means of energy consumption in the future - this is a must and will occur globally. Why aren't we building an industry to service it?
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+x+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? Think of it as an economic issue. We need to convert our means of energy consumption in the future - this is a must and will occur globally. Why aren't we building an industry to service it? We must do it and transition is inevitable. But why make unrealistic targets which make energy dearer and dearer? Why not a more sustainable transition?
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+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? There's nothing anyone could say to change your opinion one bit.
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Stretch goals are always better than being in your comfort zone. We set a pretty low bar before and we are meeting it with ease. Let’s go further and capitalise on our head start.
It’s not going to be dearer and dearer because it will become more efficient and cheaper in the long run.
It will cost us more if we don’t take action now. You would rather over invest than under invest as far as I’m concerned. The downside for over investing is negligible compared with the downside for under investing.
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+xStretch goals are always better than being in your comfort zone. We set a pretty low bar before and we are meeting it with ease. Let’s go further and capitalise on our head start.It’s not going to be dearer and dearer because it will become more efficient and cheaper in the long run. It will cost us more if we don’t take action now. You would rather over invest than under invest as far as I’m concerned. The downside for over investing is negligible compared with the downside for under investing. We have set a very high bar. In fact we are one of the leading renewable countries in the world. We are on target to meet all Kyoto targets as well. The issue is setting unrealistic targets like 50% and banning coal for base-load. This is taking on ideological proportions, meanwhile people can't afford electricity in this country despite being the most energy rich country on the planet.
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+x+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? There's nothing anyone could say to change your opinion one bit. You shouldn't avoid a good question posed to you because you find it difficult.
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+x+x+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? There's nothing anyone could say to change your opinion one bit. You shouldn't avoid a good question posed to you because you find it difficult. No point arguing with someone who's too far gone.
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+x+x+x+xCan any of my climate change buddies explain why they feel climate change should be a leading election issue, when our contribution to co2 emissions through burning fossil fuels is less than 1%? Also why is there so much antagonism around building a single coal mine, while China is in the process of building 300-500 coal stations over the next decade? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t contribute to climate change, but I’m wondering why this is such a hot button issue when our capacity to influence climate change is statistically insignificant, yet there are people who want to spend billions of dollars on job killing policies on what amounts to nothing other than environmental virtue signalling? There's nothing anyone could say to change your opinion one bit. You shouldn't avoid a good question posed to you because you find it difficult. No point arguing with someone who's too far gone. I wasn't arguing! In fact I agreed and still agree that renewable are the future. The question was pertaining to a more sustained transition without stuffing the economy. It was about having more long term and attainable goals to our emissions. I think many Australians want an answer to that question.
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Why is it unrealistic? You just said it is inevitable. May as well set a high bar
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Geez ScoMo just doesn't do debates well imo. -PB
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+xWhy is it unrealistic? You just said it is inevitable. May as well set a high bar Yes inevitable. The day will come when we will be 100% renewable. No one is arguing against that. The technology will progress to the point which will lead to total renewable energy, the bar is is already set high. It doesn’t need to be set any higher, Australia is the third biggest investor in renewables on a GDP basis and seventh overall in monetary value in the world. Right now, we also need to lower energy prices and have energy security as well and going all militant against Adani is not helpful when Asia will be building hundreds of coal powered power stations in the next 20 years. Someone must provide the coal and the people in Townsville need a job too.
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The Daily Telegraph yesterday plumbing new depths. You have to wonder just how low can newspapers go.
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Interesting that Britain are going coal free now
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+xThe Daily Telegraph yesterday plumbing new depths. You have to wonder just how low can newspapers go. What article are you referring to?
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+xInteresting that Britain are going coal free now It is. Talking of 'stretch' goals what about this? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-47543322Wales could meet 100% of its energy needs from renewable sources by 2035, under an "ambitious" new plan set out by policy experts. It urges Welsh Government to allocate more of its budget to green energy. The Institute of Welsh Affairs (IWA) predicts 20,150 jobs could be supported annually if the target is achieved.
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+xInteresting that Britain are going coal free now First time since the industrial revolution they hadn't needed coal power for a week. -PB
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