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hounddog - 24 May 2022 8:01 AM
Kurtis Morrin is Brad's nephew.
Ball playing lock, runs hard, tackles hard, leads the linespeed.
Small but makes an impact.
Defense is his best attribute, but seems to have some skill.
Not sure how much dummy half he has played or how often he kicks the ball.
If we are really lucky, a Victor Radley type, if not a handy competitive player who will do his job and some of everyone else's job.


So he must be Matt's  son?
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Kurtis Morrin is Brad's nephew.
Ball playing lock, runs hard, tackles hard, leads the linespeed.
Small but makes an impact.
Defense is his best attribute, but seems to have some skill.
Not sure how much dummy half he has played or how often he kicks the ball.
If we are really lucky, a Victor Radley type, if not a handy competitive player who will do his job and some of everyone else's job.


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dman2018 - 23 May 2022 6:57 PM
hounddog - 23 May 2022 12:09 PM

I hate the idea off half back covering an injured hooker… Even for 10 mins it weakens 2 positions…

need that cotter, b smith, McInnes type player… middle forward…not easy to find… 

2 props… 

and back that can maybe fill in at 9 if needed, or an edge forward that can play reasonable defensive footy at centre…

ZDC or Topine are currently the closest thing we have. I  don't know much about Curtis Morrin he might be another contender.

Moving the half means Averillo, Casey or the fullback fill in at half.

That type of 14 also covers an injury to any backline position.

Mostly you get more  milage from a 14 who can also play backrow.
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hounddog - 23 May 2022 12:09 PM
If we need a 14 for 2023 ZDC and JMK  are 2 options, as is Averillo or Casey becuase our halfback could fill in at dummy-half if Mahoney got injured. ZDC or JMK could play a bit of lock.

Or we could play Topine on the bench who can play mostly backrow, but fill in if an emergency occurs.

A genuine quality 80 minute hooker provides more options for 14 and makes 14 less important.

Yes it does.
I'd rather our 14 be a player that covers more of another position, but can play hooker if needed. 
I honestly don't know who's kid Topine murdered but I can't believe he hasn't been given a chance in the top grade. It's him I want to see on the bench possibly covering back row or hooker - if needed 
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Zef - 23 May 2022 10:49 AM
Marki - 23 May 2022 10:39 AM

We got the better hooker by a looooooong way. Why are you even talking about a bench player (in his current team) who’d have no role barring injuries in our 17?

Mahoney plays 80 mins, the 80th as hard as the 1st. Nobody will be looking to give him a rest when the team goes backwards in both offence and defence without him.



I was only replying to Dman post.
Wasn't implying we should go for Starling. 
I did that 3 years ago
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Forget Gus.

I want Lord Sugar to come into the club, grill each individual on their performance and then go on a Firing rampage.
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hounddog - 23 May 2022 12:09 PM
If we need a 14 for 2023 ZDC and JMK  are 2 options, as is Averillo or Casey becuase our halfback could fill in at dummy-half if Mahoney got injured. ZDC or JMK could play a bit of lock.

Or we could play Topine on the bench who can play mostly backrow, but fill in if an emergency occurs.

A genuine quality 80 minute hooker provides more options for 14 and makes 14 less important.

I hate the idea off half back covering an injured hooker… Even for 10 mins it weakens 2 positions…

need that cotter, b smith, McInnes type player… middle forward…not easy to find… 

2 props… 

and back that can maybe fill in at 9 if needed, or an edge forward that can play reasonable defensive footy at centre…
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For 2023 I think JMK will be gone.
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If we need a 14 for 2023 ZDC and JMK  are 2 options, as is Averillo or Casey becuase our halfback could fill in at dummy-half if Mahoney got injured. ZDC or JMK could play a bit of lock.

Or we could play Topine on the bench who can play mostly backrow, but fill in if an emergency occurs.

A genuine quality 80 minute hooker provides more options for 14 and makes 14 less important.
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Zef - 23 May 2022 10:49 AM
Marki - 23 May 2022 10:39 AM

We got the better hooker by a looooooong way. Why are you even talking about a bench player (in his current team) who’d have no role barring injuries in our 17?

Mahoney plays 80 mins, the 80th as hard as the 1st. Nobody will be looking to give him a rest when the team goes backwards in both offence and defence without him.



Given that Mahoney will fix the problem next season, the maximum we can do this season is give ZDC more minutes, perhaps start him or give Cook a run.

The best place for BBO seems to be improving his game in reserve grade.

But most importantly there is no need to consider signing anyone for hooker after June 30th.

I would argue halfback and fullback are bigger problems, for the rest of this season and perhaps for 2023.
We need to look at other options, including signing someone after June 30th or for 2023.

I would be very happy if Dufty has played his last game of NRL for us.

Also reasonably happy if Flanno has played his last game.

I will be extremely happy if we have a half/fullback option for 23 that potentially seems as good a Mahoney and Burton.
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Marki - 23 May 2022 10:39 AM
dman2018 - 22 May 2022 9:30 PM

Starling is the full time hooker and one of first players picked by Ricky every week.

With Canberra fading in too many games especially at back end, Ricky decided to mix it up abit and conserve Starling for when they start to fade in 2nd halves. Its worked a treat. 

It has nothing to do with him being 1st choice, 2nd or 3rd. It's how the team falls off the rails with fatigue and who at hooker can change this. 

I wish our coaches could see something sinilar in our team and do the same. Instead, they flog JMK for 70mins every week and by the time either BBO, wakeham and now ZDC come on, they are chasing points with a side that is too fatigued to attack.

Poor time managenent and bench use.

Fitler was correct whwn he spoke about fatigue being the most important thing in midern rugby league on the Sunday footy show

We got the better hooker by a looooooong way. Why are you even talking about a bench player (in his current team) who’d have no role barring injuries in our 17?

Mahoney plays 80 mins, the 80th as hard as the 1st. Nobody will be looking to give him a rest when the team goes backwards in both offence and defence without him.



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dman2018 - 22 May 2022 9:30 PM
Marki - 22 May 2022 9:07 PM

Sooooo…. He’s still starting from the bench behind a bunch of dudes yeah???… like all the quality hookers do…
i find it difficult to believe Elliot was selected as a result of his well known conservative nature and playing style…

Who’s our gun hooker???…

Starling is the full time hooker and one of first players picked by Ricky every week.

With Canberra fading in too many games especially at back end, Ricky decided to mix it up abit and conserve Starling for when they start to fade in 2nd halves. Its worked a treat. 

It has nothing to do with him being 1st choice, 2nd or 3rd. It's how the team falls off the rails with fatigue and who at hooker can change this. 

I wish our coaches could see something sinilar in our team and do the same. Instead, they flog JMK for 70mins every week and by the time either BBO, wakeham and now ZDC come on, they are chasing points with a side that is too fatigued to attack.

Poor time managenent and bench use.

Fitler was correct whwn he spoke about fatigue being the most important thing in midern rugby league on the Sunday footy show
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I am interested in halfbacks, fullbacks and 2nd rowers who play well in reserve grade, because those are positions where we should consider making changes.
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Reserve grade match report. (2nd hand)

Good general play kicking from Wakeham and 7/7 goal kicking.

Casey played well at  fullback.

Credence might be injured.

Topine also featured in a few trys, try assit, try and had good stats.

Curtis Morrin sounds more skilkful than I expected.

We flogged the opposition, but good to see players performing well.

I am getiing the impression Wakeham and BBO play well together in the halves and this is helping BBO to progress.
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Marki - 22 May 2022 9:07 PM
dman2018 - 22 May 2022 8:58 PM

Ricky seems to have his hooker rotation on song.
He starts with the conservative Woolford or Elliott and only after about 25mins he injects Starling to run amok - which he does.

Our coaches seem to stupidly play JMK for min 65mins or sometimes 72mins and give our gun hooker 8 or 15mins tops.

Is ‘anyone for 25 mins then Starling’ having your hooker rotation on song???… is it a BTS song???…
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Marki - 22 May 2022 9:07 PM
dman2018 - 22 May 2022 8:58 PM

Ricky seems to have his hooker rotation on song.
He starts with the conservative Woolford or Elliott and only after about 25mins he injects Starling to run amok - which he does.

Our coaches seem to stupidly play JMK for min 65mins or sometimes 72mins and give our gun hooker 8 or 15mins tops.

Sooooo…. He’s still starting from the bench behind a bunch of dudes yeah???… like all the quality hookers do…
i find it difficult to believe Elliot was selected as a result of his well known conservative nature and playing style…

Who’s our gun hooker???…

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dman2018 - 22 May 2022 8:58 PM
Marki - 22 May 2022 2:59 PM

So good Adam Elliot will be in the 9 jersey next week…

Ricky seems to have his hooker rotation on song.
He starts with the conservative Woolford or Elliott and only after about 25mins he injects Starling to run amok - which he does.

Our coaches seem to stupidly play JMK for min 65mins or sometimes 72mins and give our gun hooker 8 or 15mins tops.
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Marki - 22 May 2022 2:59 PM
How good is Tom Starling?

Maybe I should be in charge of Bulldogs recruitment. From coaches, to players.... I have a key eye to spotting talent.

So good Adam Elliot will be in the 9 jersey next week…
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Marki - 22 May 2022 7:10 PM
Ok.
Lord Sugar is on

Does he play halfback?
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Just had a look at the NSW player stats on nswrl.com. two of our players had a tackle efficiency > 100%.  These guys should be in SOO.
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Ok.
Lord Sugar is on
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Mooloolabadog - 22 May 2022 5:57 PM
hounddog - 22 May 2022 4:45 PM

You're right, but where do we find one. A half season journeyman is not what we need.

It can be a gamble.

If we have some cap space, we might be able to punt.

None of the guys tried so far this season look likley.
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hounddog - 22 May 2022 4:45 PM
Marki - 22 May 2022 2:51 PM

Teams with experienced halfbacks are doing well this season.

Sometimes that experienced half was previously considered a dud.

Many of the younger halves are struggling.

You're right, but where do we find one. A half season journeyman is not what we need.
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Marki - 22 May 2022 2:51 PM
Micko - 22 May 2022 1:29 PM

Agreed.
But the HB needs to be a game manager. 
Needs to understand fatigue (both in our team and in the opposition) as well as understand weakness in the opposition to exploit it.

None of the guys we have played at HB so far fit the bill. It's why myself and HD would like to see someone like a Sezar or Pearce or someone of that ilk. Doesn't matter if they've lost a step due to age. Just need composure, direction and management. The kids you mentioned can then do their thing.

Teams with experienced halfbacks are doing well this season.

Sometimes that experienced half was previously considered a dud.

Many of the younger halves are struggling.
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Marki - 22 May 2022 2:59 PM

Nah Marki, you wrecked it when you mentioned Sezer.

For once Marki is innocent  - can Lodge play halfback?

Everyone would have said Hastings was rubbish before this season.
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Reserve grade won 42-0 Wakeham 7/7 goal kicking.
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Marki - 22 May 2022 2:59 PM
How good is Tom Starling?

Maybe I should be in charge of Bulldogs recruitment. From coaches, to players.... I have a key eye to spotting talent.

Nah Marki, you wrecked it when you mentioned Sezer.
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Mooloolabadog - 22 May 2022 3:12 PM
hounddog - 22 May 2022 1:39 PM

Which available experienced half could we get?

I am not sure, some one like Sezer. Has to not have an NRL contract or be prepared to move.
Just looking for better than what we currently have and composed. 
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hounddog - 22 May 2022 1:39 PM
Micko - 22 May 2022 1:29 PM

Similar thoughts.

Fullback Toia, Casey or Averillo, Toia looks like the best prospect.

Kiraz good at wing and centre but probably wing in a full strength line up.

Alomotti not ready yet? But should be a great centre.

After June 30th I would sign an experienced half, just to get a few more wins this season and ensure 2023 isn't an all or nothing bet that requires us to rush Hayward.

I would ensure that we get the next coach and trainer right. No later than the end of August and hopefully by the end of July. They will have a limited role this season, but we need them to sit in a gauge where we are up to.

Which available experienced half could we get?
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Marki - 22 May 2022 1:07 PM
dman2018 - 22 May 2022 12:06 PM

Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet.

I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game?

Finishing 14 or 15 instead of the spoon is insignificant to development for next year.
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