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+xDaniel Stynes has joined the Bentleigh Greens in NPL Victoria Men's 1 from Perth Glory. he was super unfortunate with injuries last A-League season. Hopefully he can break apart the League in the last 10 or so games, and get himself noticed, but i fear its too late.
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Joe Gauci has signed for Adelaide City.
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+x+xDaniel Stynes has joined the Bentleigh Greens in NPL Victoria Men's 1 from Perth Glory. he was super unfortunate with injuries last A-League season. Hopefully he can break apart the League in the last 10 or so games, and get himself noticed, but i fear its too late. Never actually managed to watch him, but his stats alone in the NPL WA are terrific.
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Ds98
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so Zach Duncan has signed for Marconi....
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Corey Gamerio has joined St George City in NSW NPL 2.
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Waz
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+xso Zach Duncan has signed for Marconi.... Link? Last I heard he was with a danish side?
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Don't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners.
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+xDon't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners. Marconi probably pays a better wage than CCM can EDIT: Corey Gameiro has signed for NSW NPL2 side Saint George https://www.nationalpremierleagues.com.au/news/corey-gameiro-joins-st-george-city?fbclid=IwAR147vHTFWSCPya06ra0Kv6bfUgXn7wqRKgzJ72LpKCwvQOKcmbQDfei-nk
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Waz
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+x+xDon't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners. Marconi probably pays a better wage than CCM can And play a better standard of football.
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+x+x+xDon't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners. Marconi probably pays a better wage than CCM can And play a better standard of football. He might want to consider giving his agent the flick. The fact that he's gone from the Roar to signing in NPL NSW should be making him think "hang on, is this guy actually helping my career?" and reevaluate things. Big difference in a move to Denmark and NPL NSW :laugh: Did the Roar want to keep him?
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Waz
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+x+x+x+xDon't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners. Marconi probably pays a better wage than CCM can And play a better standard of football. He might want to consider giving his agent the flick. The fact that he's gone from the Roar to signing in NPL NSW should be making him think "hang on, is this guy actually helping my career?" and reevaluate things. Big difference in a move to Denmark and NPL NSW :laugh: Did the Roar want to keep him? Yes, offered a new scholarship contract but the +3 youth contracts were full so players like him are technically uncontracted (same with Barnett to Victory)
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+x+x+x+x+xDon't he will be there long, Nahuel Arrarrte (Stajcic's assistant) wants him at the Mariners. Marconi probably pays a better wage than CCM can And play a better standard of football. He might want to consider giving his agent the flick. The fact that he's gone from the Roar to signing in NPL NSW should be making him think "hang on, is this guy actually helping my career?" and reevaluate things. Big difference in a move to Denmark and NPL NSW :laugh: Did the Roar want to keep him? Yes, offered a new scholarship contract but the +3 youth contracts were full so players like him are technically uncontracted (same with Barnett to Victory) Is there only 3 youth contract's I thought there was 6.
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Does Marconi really offer more money than the Mariners now? More than $64,113? I have heard that NPL clubs are offering huge amounts of money but I didn't think it was getting to that sort of level.
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Does Marconi really offer more money than the Mariners now? More than $64,113? I have heard that NPL clubs are offering huge amounts of money but I didn't think it was getting to that sort of level.
It all varies on who you talk to. I know a few players that make good money in NPL [I'm not going to post figures] that see moving into the A-League or a move overseas as "unnecessary" due to them making good cash playing NPL and working a regular job too. These guys have completed uni degrees, etc. so it's not like they're a barista or anything at a cafe.
The salaries the A-League offers really aren't that attractive [ie. the $64,113 you've mentioned] when you factor in the cost of living, the traveling involved [first world problems right] etc. It's good in the sense that once you're on the merry-go-round, odds are you'll keep getting gigs, but having talked to clubs in Asia: Australian players are no longer really an attractive option to them.
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Does Marconi really offer more money than the Mariners now? More than $64,113? I have heard that NPL clubs are offering huge amounts of money but I didn't think it was getting to that sort of level.
It all varies on who you talk to. I know a few players that make good money in NPL [I'm not going to post figures] that see moving into the A-League or a move overseas as "unnecessary" due to them making good cash playing NPL and working a regular job too. These guys have completed uni degrees, etc. so it's not like they're a barista or anything at a cafe.
The salaries the A-League offers really aren't that attractive [ie. the $64,113 you've mentioned] when you factor in the cost of living, the traveling involved [first world problems right] etc. It's good in the sense that once you're on the merry-go-round, odds are you'll keep getting gigs, but having talked to clubs in Asia: Australian players are no longer really an attractive option to them.
That's interesting, explains why some players who clearly have the talent to play at A-League level hang around the NPL. I can understand how after having a decent Uni degree that sort of salary becomes rather unattractive, especially if you're supplementing it with a fair chunk of change from your NPL side. Thanks for the insight mate!
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Does Marconi really offer more money than the Mariners now? More than $64,113? I have heard that NPL clubs are offering huge amounts of money but I didn't think it was getting to that sort of level.
It all varies on who you talk to. I know a few players that make good money in NPL [I'm not going to post figures] that see moving into the A-League or a move overseas as "unnecessary" due to them making good cash playing NPL and working a regular job too. These guys have completed uni degrees, etc. so it's not like they're a barista or anything at a cafe.
The salaries the A-League offers really aren't that attractive [ie. the $64,113 you've mentioned] when you factor in the cost of living, the traveling involved [first world problems right] etc. It's good in the sense that once you're on the merry-go-round, odds are you'll keep getting gigs, but having talked to clubs in Asia: Australian players are no longer really an attractive option to them.
That is very true in some cases - why give up a steady day job for a one or two year contract in the HAL when you might be out of work at the end of it? Thats not the case here though. This is a teenage kid with some talent who took a gamble and walked out on an A League scholarship contract (only worth about $10k) and tried his luck overseas. This is is a set back for his football career but if he gets regular game time and picks up a decent part time job it need not be the end of things.
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Goodwin eyeing overseas move after A-League resurgence-goal.com
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It's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side.
Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play.
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+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised.
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+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. 100% First you reject a senior contract at the Roar, go to Denmark on trial, score the goal to win the team the match, leave Denmark, assuming you've got more options and then to come home to play in the NPL? something is amiss. Thats an awfully imaginative pathway to get to Dortmund... if thats what his agent is expecting...
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+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. It was the same with Timotheou, even though he was at Sydney Olympic the connection with Schalke allowed him to go over to a trail and go a contract with them. I suspect they will try and do the same with young Duncan with BVB and see if he can get a contract with its reserve team, it will be a free hit with nothing to lose otherwise he will explore his options in the future especially with a future national 2nd division on the horizon so chances galore locally with his agent. But i do agree his agent is not making it clear cut for him, its the problem with agents is they not making the best for the player at times.
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+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. You might find that there is no set transfer fee from an npl club if a move os happens. If contracted to a Hal club then it depends on the club of choice as to the fee. This agent might not be that stupid are all.
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+x+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. It was the same with Timotheou, even though he was at Sydney Olympic the connection with Schalke allowed him to go over to a trail and go a contract with them. I suspect they will try and do the same with young Duncan with BVB and see if he can get a contract with its reserve team, it will be a free hit with nothing to lose otherwise he will explore his options in the future especially with a future national 2nd division on the horizon so chances galore locally with his agent. You’re trying hard to put lipstick on a donkey there. So he turned down a contract with an A-League club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future and instead he took a contract with an NPL club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future. That does not make sense. It’s BS. You do realise how many Roar players have gone over to Europe, several directly from the Academy. there is a backstory to this and it’s got nothing to do with pathways to Europe.
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+x+x+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. It was the same with Timotheou, even though he was at Sydney Olympic the connection with Schalke allowed him to go over to a trail and go a contract with them. I suspect they will try and do the same with young Duncan with BVB and see if he can get a contract with its reserve team, it will be a free hit with nothing to lose otherwise he will explore his options in the future especially with a future national 2nd division on the horizon so chances galore locally with his agent. You’re trying hard to put lipstick on a donkey there. So he turned down a contract with an A-League club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future and instead he took a contract with an NPL club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future. That does not make sense. It’s BS. You do realise how many Roar players have gone over to Europe, several directly from the Academy. there is a backstory to this and it’s got nothing to do with pathways to Europe.
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+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. You might find that there is no set transfer fee from an npl club if a move os happens. If contracted to a Hal club then it depends on the club of choice as to the fee. This agent might not be that stupid are all. The worst case transfer fee would be the “Training Compensation Fee” which is capped at something like A$90k (Victory will have to pay Roar that for Barnett for example). Its hardly prohibitive and hasn’t inhibited any A League players moving in the past
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+x+x+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. It was the same with Timotheou, even though he was at Sydney Olympic the connection with Schalke allowed him to go over to a trail and go a contract with them. I suspect they will try and do the same with young Duncan with BVB and see if he can get a contract with its reserve team, it will be a free hit with nothing to lose otherwise he will explore his options in the future especially with a future national 2nd division on the horizon so chances galore locally with his agent. You’re trying hard to put lipstick on a donkey there. So he turned down a contract with an A-League club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future and instead he took a contract with an NPL club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future. That does not make sense. It’s BS. You do realise how many Roar players have gone over to Europe, several directly from the Academy. there is a backstory to this and it’s got nothing to do with pathways to Europe. I'm only going with the angle, not my take just what could happen given the links with both clubs which is interesting. Will it happen? Ive got no idea i don't know maybe he wants more money or he wants to stay close to his family in Sydney which he's from. Either way, i hope it doesn't negatively effect him, as he's a talent from what I've saw when he was the Roar. By the way what has happened to Caletti?
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+x+x+x+x+xIt's interesting with Zach Duncan because Marconi have now got a relationship with Borussia Dortmund so i suspect his agent and Marconi will try and do a George Timotheou with Schalke and look to take him over to BVB reserves side. Interesting pathway i wish him well, this kid can play. That’s a theory doing the rounds but how many clubs have had “relationships” with overseas clubs that have come to anything? From Brisbane Roar players have reached the best leagues in Europe and even signed into Euro Academies, so any suggestion he’s signed for Marconi to better his chances of a European move is just bullshit. There is a far simpler explanation - he’s been badly advised. It was the same with Timotheou, even though he was at Sydney Olympic the connection with Schalke allowed him to go over to a trail and go a contract with them. I suspect they will try and do the same with young Duncan with BVB and see if he can get a contract with its reserve team, it will be a free hit with nothing to lose otherwise he will explore his options in the future especially with a future national 2nd division on the horizon so chances galore locally with his agent. You’re trying hard to put lipstick on a donkey there. So he turned down a contract with an A-League club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future and instead he took a contract with an NPL club that might lead to a placement at a European club in future. That does not make sense. It’s BS. You do realise how many Roar players have gone over to Europe, several directly from the Academy. there is a backstory to this and it’s got nothing to do with pathways to Europe. I'm only going with the angle, not my take just what could happen given the links with both clubs which is interesting. Will it happen? Ive got no idea i don't know maybe he wants more money or he wants to stay close to his family in Sydney which he's from. Either way, i hope it doesn't negatively effect him, as he's a talent from what I've saw when he was the Roar. By the way what has happened to Caletti? Fair enough, all good. Caketti had the same agent as Duncan who was less than pleased when Caletti wasn’t offered a new contract and there’s scuttlebut that may have a influenced his decision on Duncan (who imo is a better player than young Jo) caletti didn’t come back the same after breaking his leg last season and while many hopes he would get a new contract I don’t think anyone was surprised when he didn’t. Last I heard he was looking at a Japanese club and I think he’s still unsigned at this stage
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At the end of the day, 99% of agents don't give a flying f*** about the player: all they care about is getting paid. When picking an agent, it's so crucial for a player to do his research to see the reputation the agent has and the previous work he has done. I know several players that have said to me "oh s***, I've made a giant mistake" and by then it's way too late.
I think it's very possible that he could go on to have a good career as he seems highly rated. But so far, his decision making looks questionable at best, so it's very possible he could go down the Bulut track too: a player that could've been so much more. @Waz: was there any attitude or behavioral problems when he was at Roar?
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