Match 2: Australia vs Brazil


Match 2: Australia vs Brazil

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Oh they did win.

Well done.

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paladisious - 15 Jun 2019 7:02 PM
dr. bellows - 15 Jun 2019 9:54 AM

I was just thinking about that, it'd be hilarious. All three of Australia, Brazil and Italy would be tied on 6 points, and also on +4 GD, but the Matildas would come through in first thanks for 8 goals scored compared to 7 for both Italy and Brazil, who would only be separated by H2H.

Ages ago, something similar happened to me playing the EA Sports World Cup computer game. My team got 6 points and didn't make it out of the group. I thought at first that there was a glitch with the game lol.

This would be hilarious. But the four best third-placed teams go through in this tournament. So I don't think there'll be any huge issues in Group C unless something very unexpected happens.

My guess is that the Matildas will qualify in second place and play the Norwegian girls in the next round. It's not a done thing yet, though.
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dr. bellows - 15 Jun 2019 9:54 AM
chondro - 14 Jun 2019 3:59 PM

What about if Australia defeats Jamaica 4-0 and Brazil defeats Italy 2-0 ?

I was just thinking about that, it'd be hilarious. All three of Australia, Brazil and Italy would be tied on 6 points, and also on +4 GD, but the Matildas would come through in first thanks for 8 goals scored compared to 7 for both Italy and Brazil, who would only be separated by H2H.
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dr. bellows - 15 Jun 2019 9:54 AM
chondro - 14 Jun 2019 3:59 PM

What about if Australia defeats Jamaica 4-0 and Brazil defeats Italy 2-0 ?

Change that to Brazil defeats Italy 3-1.
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chondro - 14 Jun 2019 3:59 PM
Australia - Round of 16.

If we finish...
First in group - Face Nigeria, China or Chile most likely.
Second in group - Face Norway most likely.
Third in group - Face France or Germany most likely.
Fourth in group - eliminated


Have Brazil to win by 1 goal over Italy and us to score 4 goals over Jamaica. We would finish top on goal difference.
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Have Italy draw both Brazil and Jamaica. Brazil would end up on 4 points, Italy 5 points, Australia 6 after a Jamaica win.
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Have Italy lose both games. Brazil and Aus 6 points, Italy and Jamaica on 3 points.

What about if Australia defeats Jamaica 4-0 and Brazil defeats Italy 2-0 ?
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Australia - Round of 16.

If we finish...
First in group - Face Nigeria, China or Chile most likely.
Second in group - Face Norway most likely.
Third in group - Face France or Germany most likely.
Fourth in group - eliminated


Have Brazil to win by 1 goal over Italy and us to score 4 goals over Jamaica. We would finish top on goal difference.
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Have Italy draw both Brazil and Jamaica. Brazil would end up on 4 points, Italy 5 points, Australia 6 after a Jamaica win.
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Have Italy lose both games. Brazil and Aus 6 points, Italy and Jamaica on 3 points.
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huddo - 14 Jun 2019 7:46 AM
On another note, alot of people are getting ahead of themselves in terms of what the victory means. Few points.

1.brazil have won 1 of the last 10
2.they have not beaten a european, north american, or asian team( with the exception of jamacia) outright since 2016.
3. In all that time they have never scored 2 goals.( besides jamacia)

And this is only from 5 minutes of investigating.

Im all for a matildas victory and i hope we go all the way, i just think perspective is in order.



I doubt anyone would get ahead of themselves from 1 grp win at this stage but it was an important one against a aging good team as we all know.
Moral boosting.
Hoping the girls get their heads down more from this and carry on with better conviction hopefully.



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Painting over some big cracks.
Two games in a row we have had two goals scored against us by teams that are not top teams.  Don't see us progressing any further after getting out of the group if we can't tighten up the defence and being miserly.
We beat a team which is pretty crap, by a lucky goal which should have been disallowed.






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I didn't realise just how poor this Brazil team is or that we were always huge favourites. They lost 7 games in a row coming into the tournament. They're nowhere near the level required. It was a good win in the end, but Brazil would seem to be pretty bad right now.  
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Nice to see we have 3 high quality youth players in the team that should be with the matildas for the next decade.
(00)Carpenter(RB), (01)Roestbakken(LB/DM), (03)Fowler(S)

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Much better performance. Ellie Carpenter is a gun
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grazorblade - 14 Jun 2019 11:53 AM
thought it should have been 2-1 to us so 3-2 is fair

Swings and roundabouts. Possibly 2-1 to us with an extra penalty to Brazil in the dying stages.
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Can we still blame the FFA for being two-nil down? Lol. 

He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.

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bettega - 14 Jun 2019 11:49 AM
Bondi Bossa Nova Allstar - 14 Jun 2019 4:14 AM

I'd be expecting Jamaica to be pretty weak and way out of the Matildas' league.  Expect  a big win.

People expected Italy to be weak also. Respect your opponent.  
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chondro - 14 Jun 2019 12:05 PM
We only really scored 1 goal which was s a problem, the first one.
second goal was the Brazililian keepers fault and the third goal was the Brazilian CBs fault.

we need to put 4 over Jamaica to have a chance at topping the group.

Obviously agree on the 3rd goal but the 2nd goal was a pretty legit caused by a good attacking run by Kerr and her implied threat. You see these sorts of goals all the time and it's hard to be OVERLY critical of the keeper there.
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chondro - 14 Jun 2019 12:05 PM
We only really scored 1 goal which was s a problem, the first one.
second goal was the Brazililian keepers fault and the third goal was the Brazilian CBs fault.

we need to put 4 over Jamaica to have a chance at topping the group.

Another way of looking at the last two goals is that Kerr drew all the attention from multiple defenders (and in the case of the first goal, the keeper also) which caused the errors. The second goal was lucky because on another day, or if it was another ref, they may have interpreted the rules differently.
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We only really scored 1 goal which was s a problem, the first one.
second goal was the Brazililian keepers fault and the third goal was the Brazilian CBs fault.

we need to put 4 over Jamaica to have a chance at topping the group.
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thought it should have been 2-1 to us so 3-2 is fair
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bettega - 14 Jun 2019 11:49 AM
Bondi Bossa Nova Allstar - 14 Jun 2019 4:14 AM

I'd be expecting Jamaica to be pretty weak and way out of the Matildas' league.  Expect  a big win.

so happy that match is 5:00 am should be a great start to the day 
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Bondi Bossa Nova Allstar - 14 Jun 2019 4:14 AM
paladisious - 14 Jun 2019 4:00 AM

You are relying on Brazil beating Italy. Haven't seen Jamaica play, so unsure how many goals we can reasonably expected to win by. 

I'd be expecting Jamaica to be pretty weak and way out of the Matildas' league.  Expect  a big win.

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dr. bellows - 14 Jun 2019 9:32 AM
Burztur - 14 Jun 2019 8:24 AM

This. Bit of good fortune involved with the second goal we scored but nothing wrong with it. The last goal should not have been allowed to stand, imo. Also, I didn't get a good look at it but apparently Catley hauled down a Brazilian player in the box late in the match. Matildas lucky not to concede a penalty there. I can understand why the Brazilians were still furious after the match. A couple of big calls against them. 

Looked more like the Brazilian ran into her and fell down (desperate act trying to get a pen), and then Cantley fell over her
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youngstar_37 - 14 Jun 2019 3:33 AM
Offside offence
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball


Personally thought the winning goal was offside, but going on this it would suggest that the correct decision was made. 

I thought the Brazilian pen was very soft, watching it live thought Yallops a few mins earlier looked more like a pen (but didn't look like one on replay, would have been interesting to see if VAR would have over ruled). Similarly would have been interesting to see if VAR would have overruled Brazil pen if the ref hadn't called it.

I think the problem with the defense isn't necessarily the high line but how compact their line is across the field. Eg for the 2nd goal ball was played between rb and CB to a striker making a diagonal run, the CB was too far central when ball played and slow to come across, then the other CB and lb should have been slid across, but both stayed in their original line as if ball was in middle of the park instead of down their right side. Leaves lots of passing lanes open
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Never in doubt.  Well done ladies.  Now go & kick Jamaica's arse & power into the next round.  

p.s  This does not excuse the conspirators, nor will it ever.    
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nomates - 14 Jun 2019 10:22 AM
Cant see them beating Jamaica, got lucky beating Brazil. Cant score in open play shambles.

they scored three times in open play 
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Cant see them beating Jamaica, got lucky beating Brazil. Cant score in open play shambles.

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I never gave up guys. And while all youse was rubbishing the Matildas brand I was sticking up for them and giving a shit when times got rough.


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scubaroo - 14 Jun 2019 9:46 AM
Haven't watched it yet,  Just highlights, looks like we were lucky.  Knew Brazil haven't been the same for quite a while, do we look better or are we still screwed?

We looked better and I would say we just shaded Brazil overall on balance of play but we'll need to improve further to go deep, I reckon. 
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Haven't watched it yet,  Just highlights, looks like we were lucky.  Knew Brazil haven't been the same for quite a while, do we look better or are we still screwed?
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paladisious - 14 Jun 2019 3:20 AM
Carpenter has been heads and shoulders above the rest of our squad this tournament.

Yep. Been superb. 
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maxxie - 14 Jun 2019 3:18 AM
Phew. Little lucky but we'll take that. Still nervous about that defence.




Commentators just watched Kerr miss that ball by a foot and are still crediting it to her? They're honestly hopeless.

I couldn't believe it either. And then on the 3rd goal how they couldn't work out that "not interfering with play" had been the ruling. 
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