The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:00 PM

My understanding is ROD is under the cap. He’s getting paid way less than Taggart who was also under the cap. 
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Really happy with our signings so far, hope we can sign some good quality defenders and wingers soon.
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Mrmcjewpants - 19 Jun 2019 2:03 PM

Really happy with our signings so far, hope we can sign some good quality defenders and wingers soon.

I’ve lost track with all the rumours but there was one English CB that looked really good in there 
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The article also says all 5 Visa players are from UK/Irelend.
I guess thats the region Fowler knows best.
Interesting that Roar paid a loan fee for AON.
The big question is Marquee players.
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If Roy is marquee, we are doomed. 
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crimsoncrusoe - 19 Jun 2019 2:13 PM
The article also says all 5 Visa players are from UK/Irelend.
I guess thats the region Fowler knows best.
Interesting that Roar paid a loan fee for AON.
The big question is Marquee players.

I don’t think we will have “marquees” as such - just players excused from the cap 
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Waz - 19 Jun 2019 2:34 PM
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I don’t think we will have “marquees” as such - just players excused from the cap 

I don't care if they aren't big names ..as long as they perform well.

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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:37 PM
Waz - 19 Jun 2019 2:34 PM

I don't care if they aren't big names ..as long as they perform well.
is there some sort of criteria to be a marquee ?...or can we just sign anyone and pay whatever we want (low or high) outside the cap ?

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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:39 PM
miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:37 PM
is there some sort of criteria to be a marquee ?

No.
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sub007 - 19 Jun 2019 2:44 PM
miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:39 PM

No.

I'll take that as a "no" then ?

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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:47 PM
sub007 - 19 Jun 2019 2:44 PM

I'll take that as a "no" then ?

Correct. There is no marquee criteria.
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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:37 PM
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I don't care if they aren't big names ..as long as they perform well.

My concern would more be about the club over paying for players. Waz has said our marquees are usually paid between $500,000-$750,000 a season (correct me if I am wrong Waz). I really hope O'Donovan isn't one of our highest paid players. 
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Mello-D - 19 Jun 2019 2:59 PM
miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:37 PM

My concern would more be about the club over paying for players. Waz has said our marquees are usually paid between $500,000-$750,000 a season (correct me if I am wrong Waz). I really hope O'Donovan isn't one of our highest paid players. 

I think the statement on ROD is BS. He’s not being paid much more than $200k I’d expect, which is what a top squad player typically gets. 

Both Berisha and Taggart were reported on $375k and both were in the cap, and RODs not earning that level at his age 
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miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:39 PM
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is there some sort of criteria to be a marquee ?...or can we just sign anyone and pay whatever we want (low or high) outside the cap ?

There is no criteria. The designation is around being exempt from the salary cap so typically you’d exempt your top 2 earners and pay the rest more ... so ROD could be on $200k and be exempt

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Waz - 19 Jun 2019 3:09 PM
miron mercedes - 19 Jun 2019 2:39 PM

There is no criteria. The designation is around being exempt from the salary cap so typically you’d exempt your top 2 earners and pay the rest more ... so ROD could be on $200k and be exempt

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Waz - 19 Jun 2019 3:11 PM
Waz - 19 Jun 2019 3:09 PM

.

Thank you ...nothing worse than leaving someone hanging...and wondering...is there more ?

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World Game now suggesting Dane Ingham going to Perth and Scott Neville heading to Roar. Better competition for Hingert. 
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Mrmcjewpants - 19 Jun 2019 2:03 PM

Really happy with our signings so far, hope we can sign some good quality defenders and wingers soon.

Yeah Aldren or something, looked decent.
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Mrmcjewpants - 19 Jun 2019 8:00 PM
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Yeah Aldren or something, looked decent.

Tom Aldred. Bury on loan to Motherwell last few seasons. 

Neville is a really uninspiring signing. I’ve always disliked him. Surely we can do better?
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Mello-D - 19 Jun 2019 7:26 PM
World Game now suggesting Dane Ingham going to Perth and Scott Neville heading to Roar. Better competition for Hingert. 

Perth would have to be unbelievably stupid to agree to that swap.
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sub007 - 19 Jun 2019 8:17 PM
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Perth would have to be unbelievably stupid to agree to that swap.

Done deal


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sub007 - 19 Jun 2019 8:17 PM
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Perth would have to be unbelievably stupid to agree to that swap.

Agree Roar would be getting the better deal. We look short on defenders to be honest and Ingham is no defender. 
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Tom Aldred. Bury on loan to Motherwell last few seasons. 

Neville is a really uninspiring signing. I’ve always disliked him. Surely we can do better?

Better than Ingham. At least there is that.
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lolitsbigmic - 19 Jun 2019 8:24 PM
BRFC_92 - 19 Jun 2019 8:07 PM

Better than Ingham. At least there is that.

Aldred looks the goods to me 
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Tom Aldred. Bury on loan to Motherwell last few seasons. 

Neville is a really uninspiring signing. I’ve always disliked him. Surely we can do better?

Have to agree about Neville.  Just send Ingham to Perth and leave it at that.
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aok - 20 Jun 2019 7:12 AM
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Have to agree about Neville.  Just send Ingham to Perth and leave it at that.

The comment “surely we can do better” has to be said in the context of the salary cap though. 

Jacob Pepper is the perfect example, can “we do better” for the same salary we’re paying Pepper? 

And in this case Ingham is a squad liability at Roar - he’s neither good enough for a defender or winger so needs to go. Neville is at least a defensive upgrade and, quite surprisingly, a much needed over-30’s and experienced signing in a squad that’s shaping up to be a lot younger than recent years (and a lot younger than SFC and Glory squads that have run away with titles). 

Looking at the confirmed squad and the rumours, we still look worryingly short in defenders. 
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Waz - 20 Jun 2019 7:19 AM
aok - 20 Jun 2019 7:12 AM

The comment “surely we can do better” has to be said in the context of the salary cap though. 

Jacob Pepper is the perfect example, can “we do better” for the same salary we’re paying Pepper? 

And in this case Ingham is a squad liability at Roar - he’s neither good enough for a defender or winger so needs to go. Neville is at least a defensive upgrade and, quite surprisingly, a much needed over-30’s and experienced signing in a squad that’s shaping up to be a lot younger than recent years (and a lot younger than SFC and Glory squads that have run away with titles). 

Looking at the confirmed squad and the rumours, we still look worryingly short in defenders. 

Waz, you're right about Ingham, the kid is a liability  The main point when people say "we can do better" is that Fowler has indicated he wants to play fast, attractive football (which has encouraged the fans). If he brings in another player (starter or squaddie), then they need to fit with the playing "philosophy".  Something I don't think Neville does.  I have not seen enough of the rumoured signings to comment on their style of play, but from my observations of Neville, he doesn't fit the philosophy, he is just a average defender.  
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aok - 20 Jun 2019 7:34 AM
Waz - 20 Jun 2019 7:19 AM

Waz, you're right about Ingham, the kid is a liability  The main point when people say "we can do better" is that Fowler has indicated he wants to play fast, attractive football (which has encouraged the fans). If he brings in another player (starter or squaddie), then they need to fit with the playing "philosophy".  Something I don't think Neville does.  I have not seen enough of the rumoured signings to comment on their style of play, but from my observations of Neville, he doesn't fit the philosophy, he is just a average defender.  

To be honest I don’t really recall Neville and his style do you’re one over me there. 

I guess the question is - is he being brought in as a potential starter or just as a squadie? 

The next question would be - what formation will RF play? In a 4 at the back you’d want fast mobile wing backs, in a 3 at the back you don’t, there you want steady and stable defenders 

I’m convinced we’ll see a 3-5-2 from Fowler so a back three of: 

O’Tolle, New CB, Hingert

in reserve 

Bowles, Pepper, Neville 
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Waz - 20 Jun 2019 8:13 AM
aok - 20 Jun 2019 7:34 AM

To be honest I don’t really recall Neville and his style do you’re one over me there. 

I guess the question is - is he being brought in as a potential starter or just as a squadie? 

The next question would be - what formation will RF play? In a 4 at the back you’d want fast mobile wing backs, in a 3 at the back you don’t, there you want steady and stable defenders 

I’m convinced we’ll see a 3-5-2 from Fowler so a back three of: 

O’Tolle, New CB, Hingert

in reserve 

Bowles, Pepper, Neville 

A 3-5-2 would be interesting.  No love for Reardon and Powell?  I would take both ahead of Bowles and Neville (assuming that they have an experienced CB and mid near them).  
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aok - 20 Jun 2019 8:27 AM
Waz - 20 Jun 2019 8:13 AM

A 3-5-2 would be interesting.  No love for Reardon and Powell?  I would take both ahead of Bowles and Neville (assuming that they have an experienced CB and mid near them).  

Powell is 17 and wont be ready for two more years. Reardon is a dark horse but his performances last year were shocking. 

I’m not overly convinced by O’Toole either which has me thinking maybe Neville is the third defender in a back 3 including the New CB and Hingert? 
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