Standby for brisbane roar site to be hosted on geocities.com, CCM to outsource their marketing to some numbnuts in india who only uses comic sans etc etc 

Anyway...exciting that something different is happening 

the 10% of all transfers business..... Is that used elsewhere in any leagues?

Probably because the club owners have come out in support of the Nix multiple times over the last few years. We're here to say. Get the fuck over it and focus on saving this league.

No, probably not franches

hehe oops

The two questions I have are:

• 1. FFA to hold “Good of the Australian Game” rights and governance representation - what does this actually mean and please give an example

A few months ago we wanted.

Expansion,
Hal teams to control and independent A-League
A new governance system, with more members,
The Lowy family no longer holding chair or director positions on the FFA board
Plans for a second division
Most wanted some form of revenue flows to FFA for national teams and grass roots 
P & R

Expectations. 
Some wanted the above within two years, some wanted it over 20 years...

We have 12 teams, lots of talk about going to 14 reasonably quickly, a second division looks like starting, the FFA board has a broader make up, Steven Lowy is no longer in charge, Hal clubs will be in charge of Hal....

Nothing is perfect, we can argue about structures, and who is in and who is out... 

But IMO this is a huge news day, and an important step along the evolution... still a lot do do ... still things to change... but  IMO todays agreement is the start of the recovery...

Those bagging it out... hhhmmmm I do wonder aloud while not as I have said its far from perfect .... but a lot has been achieved in a reasonably short time and as the second division starts to take shape i expect more good news... 

Rome was not  build in a day and more changes will come over time IMO... 

But every thing is still done with a cringe worthy touch

For example - 10% of transfer fees to go to the FFA. Its ridiculous and probably unprecedented anywhere in the world in our code

Everything we have asked for is going to be delivered, but not in the way we asked for it to be delivered. Its the how thats important, not the what

I get the FFA hate (and I too have not a high opinion of them), but it’s not in footballs interest for the organisation to go bust or have it’s budgets significantly reduced.

They do play a role in player development through things like curriculum, SAP, youth teams, etc and as such do invest money into the development of players through these avenues. So I think it’s pretty reasonable that they take a percentage to allow them to continue to invest that money into those programs. I’m not sure what happens with junior clubs/NPL clubs under this arrangement but they also should be getting a percentage if the player was developed there.

My main point is, if the development of players is purely a cost to the FFA and not a revenue. Then there is no motivation for them to continue to assist in developing youth.  

They will likely just pick a squad of future Socceroos and only develop those 17 -20 players if that were the case which is in no ones interest.

I don't mind the 10% of transfer thing because it is a recognition that the value to the game is through player development first. I dont think in the short term we can rely on TV deals to fund the game and I think the strategy of developing the game around TV revenue was a mistake, not that TV revenue isn't welcome.

Agree, still alot of work to be done but if you offered me an independent league, second-division earmarked for 2021/22, talk of expansion to 14 teams a year ago I'd have bitten your hand off. 

This is probably the single most important reform since the inception of the A-league, no doubt about it. 

Good to see some progress.

Glad to see the Nix staying the league, hopefully they look at finding a football stadium than playing at a cricket ground.

Ive been to Wellington a few times, a great little City, wouldn't mind seeing another Auckland team and even a Pacific Island team in the League.

But most importantly i'd just like to see a football league still in Australia in 5 years, They need to find a way to save the A League, its dead as it currently is.

fully agree take all this and lock it in, now only missing promotion and relegation

We were and never will get a Utopian solution ... many vested interest and many with both conflicting and valid reasons.

We are in an evolution and more change will come... the Melbourne Knights white paper  did what no other Football  stakeholder has  ever done ... the NK's acknowledged they agreed with FFA's white  paper, acknowledged it was done with the right intention and agree with most of it... then pointed out where they differ and then did not demand they be agreed with but asked for reasoned debate...

If we start by accepting what we have got right and what can't change overnight then we can set about building what we want .... what we have now is not perfect but IMO the development of the new second division will drive more change.

BB you said "" For example - 10% of transfer fees to go to the FFA. Its ridiculous and probably unprecedented anywhere in the world in our code""" ... mate thats simply not true most professional leagues support in some way their governing body in Germany I think a % of all Div 1,2 & 3 revenue is  paid to the national body, in England the EPl pay some kind of fee... I don't see how people can think given we play a national game even seven days that FFA is cheap to run and how 7 of the 9 and until recently 8 of the 9 national teams loose money ... add other stuff you want FFA to do...

As someone else has posted dislike all you want those running FFA today but they will mostly soon be gone and we need a funded FFA ... and most countries the professional game in some way or another supports their national body

Is that a new dawn I see ?
Must be slap in the face for some....

10% feels small if you think about it as long it goes back to the game’s benefit.

For example if an aleague club like the Nix selling Singh for 850K to Bayern, 10 percent of that doesn’t feel a lot of coin. 

Just hope we see an uplift in investment, the league badly needs more attention and the FFA need to go back to supporting the game especially the national teams. 

Everybody will whinge at something about the FFA, the game is finally moving forward and people are still complaining at something, sometimes not everyone can win at once sadly...it’s typical of our game.

The FFA have made some mistakes but I’ll prepare to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

When can we expect changes lads?

So is the 9th of August the offical start of the independent era or does it start now, also when does the draw come out? 

The draw has been done by the FFA and, I’m told by BRFC, it comes out at the end of July (no date, just “end of”). 

Who's to say that other FAs anywhere in the world won't go, "that's a bloody great idea, why didn't we think of this? Let's look into it..." ;)

This.

I haven’t gone through everything but it looks like they have agreed for the FFAs cut and a way to move on. Now with the Nix in, we should double down and get Auckland in to pump the competition to 16 teams.

I think of it as a tax and this is a clear pathway for the FFA to generate more revenue. They can now be encouraged to have more international games, etc

may be a silly question but who is hard of the a league now it's not the ffa? 

Whether or not the 10% of transfers is right or not is a moot point, as the club's are obviously content enough with it to agree to it. It's definitely a unique proposition, and one I'm not entirely opposed to. If it means a smaller up front fee from the TV deal then it's obviously worthwhile.

As for what the FFA contribute to earn the 10% - well, if a player earns an overseas move, it's more than likely they've also been a part of the national setup (either seniors or juniors) which in turn can help to build an international profile. Take for example Sarpreet Singh - had an excellent campaign for the Nix, no doubt, but I'm confident his exploits at the U20 World Cup helped him be seen by Bayern Munich. So in that respect, a 10% cut for the national federation is not too onerous.

I assume independence will also see the creation of a domestic transfer market?

It’s still the FFA and O’Rourke for now 

Not determined yet - not until independence is fully ratified at the start of August.

ok then WHO should be in charge?

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A-League clubs will invest in the competition as they plot to follow the lead of the English Premier League, which exploded after independence.

Football Federation Australia has run the A-League since 2005, but the clubs have the green light to take charge from August 1. Australia is following the EPL model. The 12 clubs — including expansion sides Western United and Macarthur Rams — will acquire stakes in the competition.

While stopping well short of the toxic negotiations between the English FA and Premier League clubs in 1992, which ended in the High Court, Sunday’s deadline day talks exceeded three hours after months of tense negotiations.

The W-League and national youth league, both of which require significant investment, will also be controlled by the A-League clubs, with an independent chairperson set to be appointed alongside 12 club representatives plus two representatives from FFA.

It marks a huge breakthrough after a two-year impasse, which was intertwined with the governance talks where FIFA threatened to intervene.

A-League clubs have vowed to invest in marketing and growing the competition, with key pillars of the independent league set to include:

FFA to retain a 20 per cent stake in the A-League;
A-League clubs to pay a minimum $4.5 million annual dividend to FFA;
FFA to receive 10 per cent of any new or existing A-League licenses that are bought;
FFA’s A-League staff to be deployed immediately.
Wanderers owner and chairman of the A-League umbrella group Paul Lederer said independence was a must.

“For the professional game in Australia, and indeed the game as a whole in our country, these recommendations are the foundations for a critically needed evolution and vitalisation,” Lederer said.

“Once executed they will create the environment for investment and associated opportunities that we all want to see. The 12 member clubs are focused on completing the process and committed to investing in and delivering the elevation of all three of our national professional leagues to the status they deserve and the levels that all of the stakeholders of our game rightfully expect.”

FFA chairman Chris Nikou believes that this will unite Australia’s fractured football community.

“The recommendations of the New League Working Group serve to align and unite Australian football’s interests like never before,’’ Nikou said.

“Clubs would have greater control, triggering significant new investment in the quality and marketing of all three leagues and FFA would be able to focus its energies and resources on the national teams, grassroots and the overall strategic direction of the game.”