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+x+x+x+x+xThat's disgusting for football, especially considering that shit view is most probably the best view at that stadium. Far better than Westpac, Optus Stadium, Spotless and SCG. Around the same as Kardinia from the main stand, but better than Docklands from the lower level when the seats are out. Better than Adelaide Oval. Obviously worse than a rectangular venue, but that goes without saying. All I'll say is that I've experienced worse viewing angles and atmospheres at some A-League games. Because those venues are just as disgusting. We really need to stay as far away as possible from these disgusting grounds. Melbourne Victory needs to scrap all games at Etihad including the derby. South Hobart would have been way better off playing tonight at a small rectangular stadium with 2k people in attendance. Thankfully Adelaide United has scrapped the idea of playing at Adelaide Oval. Hopefully Sydney FC scrap SCG.Western Sydney are finished from Spotless, thank God for that. Wellington are better off looking at something like Hutt otherwise their crowds will always look shit, and their fans will continue to suffer.Western United should hope they get their stadium built asap because it won't be that long before people are completely turned off going to that shit hole Kardinia for a football game. All I'm basically saying is that football at an oval shaped stadium is shit, no matter what crowd you get, no matter how close one side of the field is ect ect. Nobody is going to disagree with that mate, but you can't play games at stadiums you don't have. There is no rectangular stadium on this island that could hold 2.6k. That's the reality we have to deal with. Full credit to South Hobart for hosting their fixture as professionally as possible with the resources they have. What about the one near FFT at Glenorchy. What does that hold? About 3 000, but only about 500 have access to covered seating. Another 100 probably can get outdoor seating. Most have to stand.
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Are there any talks to try to even the playing field in terms of visa players?
a-league clubs are allowed 5, npl clubs are allowed 2. Hardly fair...
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Waz
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+xAre there any talks to try to even the playing field in terms of visa players? a-league clubs are allowed 5, npl clubs are allowed 2. Hardly fair... A fundament principle of Cup competitions like the FFA Cup is that the playing field is NOT level. If you want a “level playing field cup competition” then let the 11 professional clubs play in a League Cup and Amateur can play in another cup. It it never fails to amaze me how people don’t get “football culture” ... David v Goliath is not meant to be equal; it’s not equality that’s being offered - it’s opportunity!
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Big Wally
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+x+xAre there any talks to try to even the playing field in terms of visa players? a-league clubs are allowed 5, npl clubs are allowed 2. Hardly fair... A fundament principle of Cup competitions like the FFA Cup is that the playing field is NOT level. If you want a “level playing field cup competition” then let the 11 professional clubs play in a League Cup and Amateur can play in another cup. It it never fails to amaze me how people don’t get “football culture” ... David v Goliath is not meant to be equal; it’s not equality that’s being offered - it’s opportunity! There’s a lot things that aren’t equal, eg. Salary cap vs points cap, a league 1st Grade squad size vs npl 1st Grade squad size, npl always getting the home advantage. Visa players are limited when playing acl competitions, no reason why it can’t be evened up here.
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+x+x+xAre there any talks to try to even the playing field in terms of visa players? a-league clubs are allowed 5, npl clubs are allowed 2. Hardly fair... A fundament principle of Cup competitions like the FFA Cup is that the playing field is NOT level. If you want a “level playing field cup competition” then let the 11 professional clubs play in a League Cup and Amateur can play in another cup. It it never fails to amaze me how people don’t get “football culture” ... David v Goliath is not meant to be equal; it’s not equality that’s being offered - it’s opportunity! There’s a lot things that aren’t equal, eg. Salary cap vs points cap, a league 1st Grade squad size vs npl 1st Grade squad size, npl always getting the home advantage. Visa players are limited when playing acl competitions, no reason why it can’t be evened up here. +1 Such an unfair advantage to limit NPL but not limit A-league.
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Waz
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+x+x+xAre there any talks to try to even the playing field in terms of visa players? a-league clubs are allowed 5, npl clubs are allowed 2. Hardly fair... A fundament principle of Cup competitions like the FFA Cup is that the playing field is NOT level. If you want a “level playing field cup competition” then let the 11 professional clubs play in a League Cup and Amateur can play in another cup. It it never fails to amaze me how people don’t get “football culture” ... David v Goliath is not meant to be equal; it’s not equality that’s being offered - it’s opportunity! There’s a lot things that aren’t equal, eg. Salary cap vs points cap, a league 1st Grade squad size vs npl 1st Grade squad size, npl always getting the home advantage. Visa players are limited when playing acl competitions, no reason why it can’t be evened up here. There is no reason to “even it up here” though. The cup is meant to pit big v small, haves v haves not, and it’s not meant to be fair or equal. That really is the point of it.
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Decentric
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+x+x+xThat's disgusting for football, especially considering that shit view is most probably the best view at that stadium. Far better than Westpac, Optus Stadium, Spotless and SCG. Around the same as Kardinia from the main stand, but better than Docklands from the lower level when the seats are out. Better than Adelaide Oval. Obviously worse than a rectangular venue, but that goes without saying. All I'll say is that I've experienced worse viewing angles and atmospheres at some A-League games. South Hobart would have been way better off playing tonight at a small rectangular stadium with 2k people in attendance. All I'm basically saying is that football at an oval shaped stadium is shit, no matter what crowd you get, no matter how close one side of the field is ect ect. It wouldn't. I've been a spectator, player and coach at most of the local rectangular stadia. Bellerive Oval is easily the best venue.
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+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. Good round up, LFC. Marconi played awful football on Wednedsay night against South Hobart.
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+x+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. Marconi played awful football on Wednedsay night against South Hobart. 3-0, cobber. What do you expect when a Tasmanian team faces superior genetics?
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+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. I’m glad you enjoyed it mate, just feeds the appetite for what a national second division could look like. The FFA Cup is a lot of fun, plenty of talent around the NPL that just need a chance to shine.
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+x+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. Good round up, LFC. Marconi played awful football on Wednedsay night against South Hobart. I’ve seen Marconi play better than that in the NPL if I’m honest, they got some good players in that team.
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Decentric
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+x+x+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. Marconi played awful football on Wednedsay night against South Hobart. 3-0, cobber. What do you expect when a Tasmanian team faces superior genetics? Mate, the long ball, high ball, second ball dross your team played is anathema to the style of football Australia is trying to play in current times. It is simply awful to watch. Given you had two former HAL players, Jesic and Mallia, you were woeful. Second ball, high ball, fight ball dross, that gets one nowhere in international football. Tsekenis should quit coaching. In recent times I've seen South Melb, Bentleigh Greens, APIA Leichardt, Sydney United and Brisbane Strikers play some contemporaneous football easy on the eye in this state. Marconi was like going backwards in time to a different epoch of British football in the 80s. Also, Blacktown have paused some decent football on TV too, as have WA club Bayswater. I'm sure Marconi have played better football in the past. What a disgrace to football the current manifestation of Marconi is!
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Decentric
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+x+x+x+xWe need to see some young talent come through so it was good to see current Joey forward in Micheal Ruhs assisting and scoring in Sydney United’s win in extra time. Only 17 too. and what a FFACup to be at. Your never guaranteed a good game but this sure ended up being one. For starters arriving just 10mins before koff the ground stands were already pretty full but we were in a que to enter which was healthy to see finally got in 5mins of play already gone. Atmosphere was great till the final whistle ! SGC active fans had drums and chanting all game, SU had their usual support as well, the banter back and forth through the goals provided many giggles. As expected SU were sharper moving the ball and some great one touch football at times But STG PL2 arn't as sharp but their ticker and home support lifted their performance no doubt about it...... I was listening to some supporters behind me saying this is big for the Club making it to R32, no doubt I agree. Long time since their big heydays back in NSL. In the end it was the fitness difference overall going ET, STG had their chances still but SU played some fast counters late and the finish's were spot on to kill STG off. Rippa night as people have seen the updates - Lliden Sports Centre could hold games easily for the 2nd tier comp. Love the Cup fellas. D, Marconi and SU this season have been up and down. Marconi have spent some dollars but it just isn't delivering as expected. Both 15/16 points behind top Wolves. They have recovered their season of late, SU now 5th Marconi 6th. Good round up, LFC. Marconi played awful football on Wednedsay night against South Hobart. I’ve seen Marconi play better than that in the NPL if I’m honest, they got some good players in that team. Tsekinis is coaching them to go backwards, Barca. Mallia and Jesic have gone backwards. since their HAL days.
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+x+x+x+xThat's disgusting for football, especially considering that shit view is most probably the best view at that stadium. Far better than Westpac, Optus Stadium, Spotless and SCG. Around the same as Kardinia from the main stand, but better than Docklands from the lower level when the seats are out. Better than Adelaide Oval. Obviously worse than a rectangular venue, but that goes without saying. All I'll say is that I've experienced worse viewing angles and atmospheres at some A-League games. South Hobart would have been way better off playing tonight at a small rectangular stadium with 2k people in attendance. All I'm basically saying is that football at an oval shaped stadium is shit, no matter what crowd you get, no matter how close one side of the field is ect ect. It wouldn't. I've been a spectator, player and coach at most of the local rectangular stadia. Bellerive Oval is easily the best venue. When there was only 2.6k there? Bollocks. There is no way that KGV wouldn't be more appropriate for that sort of numbers. All of these "comforts" at Bellerive that officials have been spruiking just shows that they have absolutely no idea about what cup games are supposed to be about. The only people who really want these venues are the fkn Suits.
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Decentric
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+x+x+x+x+xThat's disgusting for football, especially considering that shit view is most probably the best view at that stadium. Far better than Westpac, Optus Stadium, Spotless and SCG. Around the same as Kardinia from the main stand, but better than Docklands from the lower level when the seats are out. Better than Adelaide Oval. Obviously worse than a rectangular venue, but that goes without saying. All I'll say is that I've experienced worse viewing angles and atmospheres at some A-League games. South Hobart would have been way better off playing tonight at a small rectangular stadium with 2k people in attendance. All I'm basically saying is that football at an oval shaped stadium is shit, no matter what crowd you get, no matter how close one side of the field is ect ect. It wouldn't. I've been a spectator, player and coach at most of the local rectangular stadia. Bellerive Oval is easily the best venue. When there was only 2.6k there? Bollocks. There is no way that KGV wouldn't be more appropriate for that sort of numbers. All of these "comforts" at Bellerive that officials have been spruiking just shows that they have absolutely no idea about what cup games are supposed to be about. The only people who really want these venues are the fkn Suits. With due respect, MT, have you been a spectator at any of these venues? At KGV many would not be able to view the football with 3 000 crowds.
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Every team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself.
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+xEvery team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself. Sorry but I agree with Decentric, it was by far the worse game to watch in FFA Cup history. A game in Tassie is always a joy and I was hoping the Tassie team would preform but no it was so bland and stale because of Marconi.
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+x+xEvery team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself. Sorry but I agree with Decentric, it was by far the worse game to watch in FFA Cup history. A game in Tassie is always a joy and I was hoping the Tassie team would preform but no it was so bland and stale because of Marconi. It probably was awful, and I'm not endorsing Marconi's style. I'm making the point that teams are not all obliged to play in a certain way. If they want to play kick and rush its up to them; they don't have to please armchair critics.
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I fancy Brisbane Strikers knocking the Nix out..should be a good match. Pengelly has scored 36 goals this season, just broke the NPL Qld record.
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+xI fancy Brisbane Strikers knocking the Nix out..should be a good match. Pengelly has scored 36 goals this season, just broke the NPL Qld record. Will he go to A-League or NPL Victoria next season?
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+xI fancy Brisbane Strikers knocking the Nix out..should be a good match. Pengelly has scored 36 goals this season, just broke the NPL Qld record. Nix are deff the underdog in this match, Wellington are just treating this game like a friendly so I doubt they will put out a strong starting 11.
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+xEvery team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself. I have some good news for you, Victor. They play a game called aerial ping pong in your home town of Adelaide. Port Adelaide and Adelaide Crows play a brand of egg ball decidedly superior to what Marconi play manifesting as association football. You could take up a membership for aerial ping pong. You'd love it, Victor! If Australia became world champs in association football playing the dross Marconi do, I wouldn't watch it.
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+x+xEvery team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself. I have some good news for you, Victor. They play a game called aerial ping pong in your home town of Adelaide. Port Adelaide and Adelaide Crows play a brand of egg ball decidedly superior to what Marconi play manifesting as association football. You could take up a membership for aerial ping pong. You'd love it, Victor! If Australia became world champs in association football playing the dross Marconi do, I wouldn't watch it. Take it down a notch Decentric. No need for that.
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+x+xEvery team is entitled to play the way it sees fit, decentric. There is no rule that says that all have to adhere to your template of contemporaneous post modern dream football.
I think 3-0 speaks for itself. I have some good news for you, Victor. They play a game called aerial ping pong in your home town of Adelaide. Port Adelaide and Adelaide Crows play a brand of egg ball decidedly superior to what Marconi play manifesting as association football. You could take up a membership for aerial ping pong. You'd love it, Victor! If Australia became world champs in association football playing the dross Marconi do, I wouldn't watch it. Err, decentric… I thought that we are laying off the personal abuse now? Pull your head in, or face a ban! And try reading people's posts before laying on the heavy handed sarcasm. Yes, Marconi are bad, you have said so over and over and over- we get it!
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+x+xI fancy Brisbane Strikers knocking the Nix out..should be a good match. Pengelly has scored 36 goals this season, just broke the NPL Qld record. Nix are deff the underdog in this match, Wellington are just treating this game like a friendly so I doubt they will put out a strong starting 11.
That was never in question. They don't have a strong starting XI - everyone is abandoning ship.
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I think Strikers Andy Pengelly will get a hattrick against us, Bookies have Strikers as Fav against Nix.
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+xI think Strikers Andy Pengelly will get a hattrick against us, Bookies have Strikers as Fav against Nix. Safe bet tbh. Strikers are really strong this season.
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+x+xI think Strikers Andy Pengelly will get a hattrick against us, Bookies have Strikers as Fav against Nix. Safe bet tbh. Strikers are really strong this season. Not really.
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+x+x+xI think Strikers Andy Pengelly will get a hattrick against us, Bookies have Strikers as Fav against Nix. Safe bet tbh. Strikers are really strong this season. Not really. 4th in the QNPL but prob the strongest NPL side to face a A-League team this season. Bris Strikers are no Maitland.
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+x+x+x+xI think Strikers Andy Pengelly will get a hattrick against us, Bookies have Strikers as Fav against Nix. Safe bet tbh. Strikers are really strong this season. Not really. 4th in the QNPL but prob the strongest NPL side to face a A-League team this season. Bris Strikers are no Maitland. Definitely not.
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