Everyone knows come finals the top team may not win the grand final. Getting a shot at the national finals is a good reward for a consistent season and the carrot of direct ffa cup qualification which is where the money is.

Makes sense to me.

It is an obvious error. 
I expect when we get a second division the logical thing will be for both grand finalists to be promoted.
To make it more interesting if the second division premier doesn’t make the grand final, they could play off against the third bottom team of the top division 

The logical thing would be the champions to get automatic promotion, and the next 4 teams to play-off for the other promotion spot.  Or if we wish to protect the incumbent A-League sides, for the champions to be promoted, and 3-4-5 to play off with the 2nd last side in the A-League for the other spot.

The premiers of the second division getting promoted is not at all logical.

If the top division has a finals system, it is logical the second division has a similar finals system.
It is illogical for a team that doesn’t even make the grand final to be promoted over a team that does make the grand final.

The most consistent team should be promoted. On what planet would that not happen? The finals need to go. We have the state cups and FFA Cup which can replace that finals experience.

The most consistent team should be promoted. On what planet would that not happen? The finals need to go. We have the state cups and FFA Cup which can replace that finals experience.

As I understand it, it was the NPL clubs that asked to keep state finals in Victoria when the NPL came in.

Also, lots of countries have playoffs for promotion.

The premiers of the second division getting promoted is not at all logical.

If the top division has a finals system, it is logical the second division has a similar finals system.
It is illogical for a team that doesn’t even make the grand final to be promoted over a team that does make the grand final.

Playoffs and finals series are two different things. My point is that if it is only ONE team going up, it should be the league winner (the most consistent team throughout the course of a season).

With so much uncertainty about tv deals and interest, it’s hard to see how any of the grand plans for expansion or a second tier will work.

The same roadblocks will exist for the independent HAL, which always tend to revolve around funding. There’s only a limited pie to cut out there, and whether they can unlock anywhere near the amount required to get this train back on the tracks will be interesting to see.

The premiers getting promoted first is logical because the premier of the A-League gets the first slot in the ACL.  The 2nd div finals is then the chance for another club to win promotion otherwise #2 in 2nd div gets it.

I see where you’re coming from.
However, I still think it would be odd for a team that doesn’t make the grand final to be promoted in front of the two teams that do make the grand final.
 I don’t see the Australian public accepting it.
I think you have to promote both grand finalists.

If the premier doesn’t make the grand final, let them play a promotion/relegation play off against the third bottom team from the top division in the weekend after the championship match.

I see where you’re coming from.
However, I still think it would be odd for a team that doesn’t make the grand final to be promoted in front of the two teams that do make the grand final.
 I don’t see the Australian public accepting it.
I think you have to promote both grand finalists.

If the premier doesn’t make the grand final, let them play a promotion/relegation play off against the third bottom team from the top division in the weekend after the championship match.

Who cares? The Football people would get it and it's not like the rest of the public would give a toss about these games. Pandering to them to get them watching the A-League has already been a waste of time, there's no way it'd be anyone but the football community watch the 2nd.

If you have two teams going up and the Premier get the first spot, the finals can be treated as second chance for promotion for everyone else which will make even the non finals people pay attention. 

Incidentally, there'll be a triple header at AAMI Park on the 15th featuring the men's and women's NPLV grand finals and the NPLV 1-2 pro-rel playoff, really great idea.

I see where you’re coming from.
However, I still think it would be odd for a team that doesn’t make the grand final to be promoted in front of the two teams that do make the grand final.
 I don’t see the Australian public accepting it.
I think you have to promote both grand finalists.

If the premier doesn’t make the grand final, let them play a promotion/relegation play off against the third bottom team from the top division in the weekend after the championship match.

Will it be on Youtube?

And on FB you would imagine. I'd be curious to know the growth since inception.

I haven't tracked data on specific games as interest would vary but I'd imagine the GF would be a constant. Both in attendance and eyeballs

“Why NPL needs to fix finals flaws

Updated 1 hour agoAPIA became champions for the first time since the competition started seven years ago with a 2-1 victory over their old rivals thanks to a winning goal from captain Sean Symons in extra time.Paul Galimi had given APIA a first-half lead before Matt Bilic equalised for United just before the hour mark.Yet the euphoria surrounding APIA's triumph was mixed with disappointment because their gallant effort in a superb contest that would not have felt out of place in the A-League will not be rewarded with a tilt at the seventh Australian NPL finals that kick off on September 21-22.The reason is because Wollongong Wolves, having won the premiership, earned the right to represent the NSW federation in the eight-team national finals. This is just not right.It has nothing to do with the age-old controversy surrounding the merits or otherwise of winning the premiership or the championship.It is all about Football Federation Australia's obligation to encourage consistency, especially since it considers the winners of the A-League grand final and not the winners of the Premiers' Plate as the national champions.If the winners of any of the NPL grand finals around Australia (except Tasmania which does not have a finals series) are considered the champions of each respective federation, then it should be them who should play in the national finals not the premiers.If, on the other hand, FFA is happy to reward the premiers with a spot in the national finals it should ask th3 federztions to declare them and not the grand final winners as champions."I'm obviously delighted with the win but disappointed we cannot progress any further," APIA chairman Jim Apostolovski said later. "As champions of NSW we should be the team to represent our federation in the national finals."FFA HQ should fix this glaring discrepancy by either making the grand final more meaningful by giving the winners a spot in the finals or by rewarding the team finishing first past the post with the championship.A point worth remembering, too, is the team that wins the Australian championship gains automatic entry to the last 32 of the following FFA Cup so APIA as new champions are denied this opportunity.You could tell by just looking at the faces of the players and their supporters how much victory meant to APIA, who had lost the previous two grand finals.

Yet the fact that APIA won't test themselves at the next level in the national finals as a natural progression from winning the league made their triumph a bit of an anti-climax.

The FFA, as the body responsible for the NPL, has given the A-League the autonomy the professional clubs have sought for years but the game's governing body will hang on to the NPL even when a second division comes to fruition.The ownership structure of a second-tier competition has yet to be determined but it is likely to be an asset that is wholly or majority-owned by the FFA so the NPL will be under the control of head office for the foreseeable future.The FFA admittedly has other more important issues to deal with at the moment - not least the negotiations for the next television deal that seem to be going nowhere - but it could do much worse than have a  look at the NPL rules so the grand final is given the importance it deserves.And should head office believe that winning the premiership carries more weight it should say so and encourage the federations to to declare the premiers as state champions.It'a pretty straight-forward, really.

AUSTRALIAN NPL FINAL SERIES

Quarter-finals
Match 1: Lions FC v Campbelltown City
Match 2: Maitland v Devenport
Match 3: Wollongong Wolves v Canberra Olympic
Match 4: Heidelberg Utd v Perth SCSemi-finals
Winner 1 v Winner 2
Winner 3 v Winner 4”

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/why-npl-needs-to-fix-finals-flaws

And on FB you would imagine. I'd be curious to know the growth since inception.

I haven't tracked data on specific games as interest would vary but I'd imagine the GF would be a constant. Both in attendance and eyeballs

To me too.

The World Cup to select the best national team is logical to me too