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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHonestly? Great game. Played well in the first half and got the job done by half time. In the second half we didn't need to push and our players could rest a bit and still maintain energy. Defensively sound and walked away with the points and a fairly comfortable win away from home. Really can't ask for much more. nice way to put it but I reckon they looked knackered in the second half. I don't know if that was the case OR more so Kuwait lifted as you'd expect being down playing at home AND they put on their 2 best attacking players. A huge error by their coach regards the first half not starting them but worked for us big time. TBH they broke us a few times and had it not be for having a quality keeper as we have Ryan who stopped 2 really good chances it might have been whole different 2nd half....... Not happy that we hardy made their keeper work 2nd half but as some mentioned we bagged the much needed points away thats all that counted and our 1st quali. Mooy really showed this game what we missed during the AC, Irvine worked great 1st half giving Mooy room to take and distribute. Mooy shot was superb and that 2nd half long ball for Mabil to run on was peach/perfectly placed and deserved being put away by Mabil. Am I wrong thinking we looked better than at the AC at this early stage ? They look comfortable for sure, but we won't know for sure until the second round IMO look agree, your only as good as your last game so, that 1st half we actually beasted them that we don't see too often..... Midfielder, I hear you and to me this is not a bad strategy for the players themselves should know to adjust as it happens/needed BUT if they don't soon enough then GA or any coach needs to stand up and bark the instructions and get more info out during breaks.
Its only one game and a game we had the upper hand, lets see the return leg and more onwards obviously. I'm just glad this first game went as it did for these boards are harsh and many not in favour of Arnold imagine what the posts would be like today. Hoping we can be more positive for its a uphill battle full stop, people expect so much today, we got what we have re the squad that is early days for many, no Euro or better known Gaffa as some wish, we just got plain ol cranky well paid Arnold lol........ My key point apart from the changing formations is this time as I see it, we played to our strengths not to a system.... Ange the Dutch guy at teh WC, The German & the Dutch guy before him all tried to play a system... Arnold for me anyway seemed to play to the players strength and not try and force on them something they were not use to. I didn’t see Arnie change formations, it seems his made his system more flexible especially in midfield, it’s still a 433 on paper but has variations. So I honestly don’t know what you mean by playing to it’s strengths when his trying to make this team more versatile, how far it goes will see against tougher teams. I saw three variations, which are pretty standard practice, Barca. 4-2-3-1 in BP in the defensive half. 1-4-3-3 defensive midfield triangle in the attacking half in BP. 4-4-2 flat midfield in BPO.
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+xMy reading of this match to say other early matches we have played, is we played to our strengths not to a system, further we continually throughout the match changed formations to suit the match as it was being played.... Arnold seemed to trust his team to adjust and organise themselves to the state of the game. It seems to me Arnold has set the team out with a number of formations depending on the circumstances of the match and has drilled them into them.... At the Mariners this is what he did .. . Good start by the team and Arnold. He had the team well drilled (like the Mariners of old). Good start to WCQ.
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Irvine is an incredible player for us - really hope he can make the step up to the EPL sooner rather than later. He's a big, strong midfielder with a great engine and incredible in the air.
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+xMabil shouldve scored frm that beautiful ball frm Mooy. Should ve been 4-0 The main missed opportunities were two each of Taggart and Irvine in the first half. From good positions they don't work the keeper hard enough. If we can't convert from those positions in open play, we won't qualify. The pleasing aspect about Taggart though is is his improving technique on the ball with first touch, dribbling 1v1 in tight spaces, running with the ball , plus shielding and holding the ball up. His defending from the front in team game plans for squeezing in BPO and Defensive Transitions was also excellent. He forced turn overs in the half of the pitch. ATM if Taggart, Maclaren and Giannou can start scoring regular goals at international level, it augurs well for our qualification chances for the next WC. The worst facet of Taggart's play last night was from 2 good opportunities to strike the ball cleanly, he under performed shooting with his left foot. One pleasing phenomenon was the excellent first touch he made when he was wrong footed, and off balance, as he provided the assist for Mooy to score his rocket.
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+xIrvine is an incredible player for us - really hope he can make the step up to the EPL sooner rather than later. He's a big, strong midfielder with a great engine and incredible in the air. Agree about these qualities, but he is weaker at the ball with his feet in handling speed, and passing and moving in tight spaces. With the newer brand of possession football we need players like this in midfield when the Socceroos are in possession. Sometimes Irvine does not track his man as well as he should in BPO. I like Irvine's late runs into the box. He poses a similar scoring threat from these late runs as Cahill did in his earlier days. He is possibly of more value as a number 10, than a number 6 for the Socceroos.
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+x+xMy reading of this match to say other early matches we have played, is we played to our strengths not to a system, further we continually throughout the match changed formations to suit the match as it was being played.... Arnold seemed to trust his team to adjust and organise themselves to the state of the game. It seems to me Arnold has set the team out with a number of formations depending on the circumstances of the match and has drilled them into them.... At the Mariners this is what he did .. . Good start by the team and Arnold. He had the team well drilled (like the Mariners of old). Good start to WCQ. I'd like to see some of Arnie's detractors laud him for coaching an excellent game plan and selecting the right players in the right positions against Kuwait, where we have really struggled in the heat in the past.
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Why was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
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Much as I like some of the personalities who are pundits on TV, I think we now have an era of superior, much more analytical stakeholders in football who have played and coached in a new epoch of the game.
I'm really fed up with so much discussion in Australia, including TV pundits, about which club they play for as justification for their appraisals of players.
Sains is not the player he was, but I'd like to hear pundits discuss technically, and through game sense criteria , where he is struggling compared to the Asian Cup 2015.
The newer generation of currently unattached professional players and coaches, like John Aloisi, Kevin Muscat, Phil Moss, Josh Kennedy are far more adept at analysing players' technical strengths and weaknesses, using the four technical criteria of first touch/handling speed, running with the ball, striking the ball and attacking and defensive 1v1 skills. They have operated in a more technical and tactically sophisticated milieu.
They are also decidedly superior at quickly identifying Socceroo and opposition game plans.
At one game, Fox had Aloisi and Muscat as the expert analysts.Their analysis was probably better than anything I saw in Europe when when I was in France observing the last Euro Champs.
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+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings.
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Bring on more "tactical and technical" talking heads! zzzzz
I don't really want to listen to Muscat and John Aloisi.
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+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now.
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+x+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now. I'm not. If you research it, the Socceroos, under Arnie, played Kuwait in some of the first few games in Asian Cup qualification in 2007 just after the 2006 WC. Australia beat Kuwait 2-0 at home, then had the shock of Kuwaiti heat and lost in early September 2007 in Kuwait City.
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According to twitter, Kuwait have sacked their manager.
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+x+x+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now. I'm not. If you research it, the Socceroos, under Arnie, played Kuwait in some of the first few games in Asian Cup qualification in 2007 just after the 2006 WC. Australia beat Kuwait 2-0 at home, then had the shock of Kuwaiti heat and lost in early September 2007 in Kuwait City. I'm not disputing the 2006 result. I'm disputing your statement "the last time we played in Kuwait it was a disaster". It wasn't- we won 4-0.
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+x+xIrvine is an incredible player for us - really hope he can make the step up to the EPL sooner rather than later. He's a big, strong midfielder with a great engine and incredible in the air. Agree about these qualities, but he is weaker at the ball with his feet in handling speed, and passing and moving in tight spaces. With the newer brand of possession football we need players like this in midfield when the Socceroos are in possession. Sometimes Irvine does not track his man as well as he should in BPO. I like Irvine's late runs into the box. He poses a similar scoring threat from these late runs as Cahill did in his earlier days. He is possibly of more value as a number 10, than a number 6 for the Socceroos. Irvine is a more effective number 10 than Rogic.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now. I'm not. If you research it, the Socceroos, under Arnie, played Kuwait in some of the first few games in Asian Cup qualification in 2007 just after the 2006 WC. Australia beat Kuwait 2-0 at home, then had the shock of Kuwaiti heat and lost in early September 2007 in Kuwait City. I'm not disputing the 2006 result. I'm disputing your statement "the last time we played in Kuwait it was a disaster". It wasn't- we won 4-0. not sure if you guys have seen the 11v11 website before but has pretty much every match record for every comp, below is link to AU v KW match history. Suggest you check out the squads used for the AFC matches in 2006, majority or Europe based players didnt participate. https://www.11v11.com/teams/australia/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Kuwait/
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+xAccording to twitter, Kuwait have sacked their manager. Sounds like the beginning of another successful campaign for them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now. I'm not. If you research it, the Socceroos, under Arnie, played Kuwait in some of the first few games in Asian Cup qualification in 2007 just after the 2006 WC. Australia beat Kuwait 2-0 at home, then had the shock of Kuwaiti heat and lost in early September 2007 in Kuwait City. I'm not disputing the 2006 result. I'm disputing your statement "the last time we played in Kuwait it was a disaster". It wasn't- we won 4-0. not sure if you guys have seen the 11v11 website before but has pretty much every match record for every comp, below is link to AU v KW match history. Suggest you check out the squads used for the AFC matches in 2006, majority or Europe based players didnt participate. https://www.11v11.com/teams/australia/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Kuwait/ Brilliant link. Cheers.
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+x+xWas a solid performance, might aswell be qualified for the next stage after that win. Got the job done early before the heat killed us We have also lost to, or at least failed to beat Jordan in two successive WCQs in Amman. Didn't we struggle to beat Jordan in the 2019 Asian Cup too on neutral territory, or did they beat us at this year's Asian Cup? I can't remember! Having to play games in oppressive heat in tropical Asia or Middle Eastern summers, often dragging our players out of winter, is a tough gig. Ye Jordan beat us at the Asian Cup and i believe the last time we played them in 2015 in Jordan. But either way with Qatar not needing to go past this round, we can lose to Jordan and comfortably qualify to the next stage. We got a fortunate draw with two minnows and a Kuwait who just got back from a ban and a ruined squad.
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+x+x+xWas a solid performance, might aswell be qualified for the next stage after that win. Got the job done early before the heat killed us We have also lost to, or at least failed to beat Jordan in two successive WCQs in Amman. Didn't we struggle to beat Jordan in the 2019 Asian Cup too on neutral territory, or did they beat us at this year's Asian Cup? I can't remember! Having to play games in oppressive heat in tropical Asia or Middle Eastern summers, often dragging our players out of winter, is a tough gig. Ye Jordan beat us at the Asian Cup and i believe the last time we played them in 2015 in Jordan. But either way with Qatar not needing to go past this round, we can lose to Jordan and comfortably qualify to the next stage. We got a fortunate draw with two minnows and a Kuwait who just got back from a ban and a ruined squad. Shit, I just realised that Qatar are playing qualifiers. Why aren't they automatically qualified?
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+x+x+x+xWas a solid performance, might aswell be qualified for the next stage after that win. Got the job done early before the heat killed us We have also lost to, or at least failed to beat Jordan in two successive WCQs in Amman. Didn't we struggle to beat Jordan in the 2019 Asian Cup too on neutral territory, or did they beat us at this year's Asian Cup? I can't remember! Having to play games in oppressive heat in tropical Asia or Middle Eastern summers, often dragging our players out of winter, is a tough gig. Ye Jordan beat us at the Asian Cup and i believe the last time we played them in 2015 in Jordan. But either way with Qatar not needing to go past this round, we can lose to Jordan and comfortably qualify to the next stage. We got a fortunate draw with two minnows and a Kuwait who just got back from a ban and a ruined squad. Shit, I just realised that Qatar are playing qualifiers. Why aren't they automatically qualified? Because this counts as Asian Cup qualification. All i know how this effects the qualifiers is an extra 2nd placed team will go through to the next round.
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+x+x+x+x+xWas a solid performance, might aswell be qualified for the next stage after that win. Got the job done early before the heat killed us We have also lost to, or at least failed to beat Jordan in two successive WCQs in Amman. Didn't we struggle to beat Jordan in the 2019 Asian Cup too on neutral territory, or did they beat us at this year's Asian Cup? I can't remember! Having to play games in oppressive heat in tropical Asia or Middle Eastern summers, often dragging our players out of winter, is a tough gig. Ye Jordan beat us at the Asian Cup and i believe the last time we played them in 2015 in Jordan. But either way with Qatar not needing to go past this round, we can lose to Jordan and comfortably qualify to the next stage. We got a fortunate draw with two minnows and a Kuwait who just got back from a ban and a ruined squad. Shit, I just realised that Qatar are playing qualifiers. Why aren't they automatically qualified? Because this counts as Asian Cup qualification. All i know how this effects the qualifiers is an extra 2nd placed team will go through to the next round. Ohh I see. Thanks.
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+x+x+x+x+xWas a solid performance, might aswell be qualified for the next stage after that win. Got the job done early before the heat killed us We have also lost to, or at least failed to beat Jordan in two successive WCQs in Amman. Didn't we struggle to beat Jordan in the 2019 Asian Cup too on neutral territory, or did they beat us at this year's Asian Cup? I can't remember! Having to play games in oppressive heat in tropical Asia or Middle Eastern summers, often dragging our players out of winter, is a tough gig. Ye Jordan beat us at the Asian Cup and i believe the last time we played them in 2015 in Jordan. But either way with Qatar not needing to go past this round, we can lose to Jordan and comfortably qualify to the next stage. We got a fortunate draw with two minnows and a Kuwait who just got back from a ban and a ruined squad. Shit, I just realised that Qatar are playing qualifiers. Why aren't they automatically qualified? Because this counts as Asian Cup qualification. All i know how this effects the qualifiers is an extra 2nd placed team will go through to the next round. Assuming they come first in their group or are one of the top 4 runners up, of course. Qatar beating out Oman, Afghanistan, India and Bangladesh for one of those spots is a pretty safe bet though obviously.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhy was it a disaster last time we played in Kuwait??
We won 4-0 there this time last year.
That was a good result and performance. It was played in the cool months just before the 2019 Asian Cup. I'm talking about the game in about early September 2007. Before last night the Kuwait/Socceroo win loss ledger was that both teams had won 5 games apiece in head to head meetings. It was played on October 15th 2018. Stop making things up. We first played in Kuwait in 1977- so I suspect the FFA may have a comprehensive dossier on Kuwait weather conditions by now. I'm not. If you research it, the Socceroos, under Arnie, played Kuwait in some of the first few games in Asian Cup qualification in 2007 just after the 2006 WC. Australia beat Kuwait 2-0 at home, then had the shock of Kuwaiti heat and lost in early September 2007 in Kuwait City. I'm not disputing the 2006 result. I'm disputing your statement "the last time we played in Kuwait it was a disaster". It wasn't- we won 4-0. From your manifest pedantry, I'll rephrase it as, ' the last time we played Kuwait in extreme heat in Kuwait City, it was a disaster'.
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“Sept 13 (Reuters) - Kuwait has sacked head coach Romeo Jozak just a year after his appointment following the team’s 3-0 home defeat to Australia in World Cup qualifying.” https://uk.reuters.com/article/soccer-kuwait-coach/soccer-kuwait-fires-coach-jozak-after-home-defeat-to-australia-idUKL3N2640ZF
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We played well enough for the other team to sack their coach but people will still say Arnie isn’t good enough 😆
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+xWe played well enough for the other team to sack their coach but people will still say Arnie isn’t good enough 😆 Probs team selection and tactics as well as results.
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+xWe played well enough for the other team to sack their coach but people will still say Arnie isn’t good enough 😆 His gamble on choosing not to start their best regarded two attacking players probably had more to do with it.
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