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+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world.
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+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites.
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+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days?
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+x+x+xNix was our worst game without doubt, 85 minutes of shite and five where they looked like they at least cared. But the first 45 vs City weren’t far behind. All the other games have just been inconsistent and on another day Roar have 10-12 points on the board and sit in the right half of the table instead. But they dont, and they now look like a team lacking in confidence. The one thing I’ve never liked is to see players lacking in confidence kept in the team too long, it’s contagious and/or other players try compensating for them causing their own performance to suffer. So theres a lot of talk about changing formation but why would you - if Inman and ROD has been in form over those first few games they would have won plenty. 6 games later though and we have question marks over defensive players Aldred, Gillesphey and Crocombe instead who, in the first four games, were solid enough ..... it’s a funny old game football; the strikers stuff up and it’s the defenders that fall apart 🤪 I mean, maybe because it isn't working? Or because there might be better options out there? Sticking with this formation is meaning we are playing people out of form and out of position. I think Fowler needs to be able to identify which players are and aren't up to standard, and work out a way to get the best players on the park.
Also, Inman and ROD being in-form and scoring some of the chances they have missed doesn't fix the fact that we haven't looked like a cohesive, well playing side for 80-90% of the season. The squad was recruited for 3-5-2 so no one is being played out of position unintentionally. And if players are out of form in 3-5-2 they’ll be out of form in 4-4-2 or any other formation confidence and self belief are fragile things in football and that now seems to be part of the problem. Agree. This team has a major confidence issue. And for that reason I think that CCM may win this weekend.
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+x+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days? They are rich - we aren't. Is that statistical enough Waz?
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+x+x+x+xNix was our worst game without doubt, 85 minutes of shite and five where they looked like they at least cared. But the first 45 vs City weren’t far behind. All the other games have just been inconsistent and on another day Roar have 10-12 points on the board and sit in the right half of the table instead. But they dont, and they now look like a team lacking in confidence. The one thing I’ve never liked is to see players lacking in confidence kept in the team too long, it’s contagious and/or other players try compensating for them causing their own performance to suffer. So theres a lot of talk about changing formation but why would you - if Inman and ROD has been in form over those first few games they would have won plenty. 6 games later though and we have question marks over defensive players Aldred, Gillesphey and Crocombe instead who, in the first four games, were solid enough ..... it’s a funny old game football; the strikers stuff up and it’s the defenders that fall apart 🤪 I mean, maybe because it isn't working? Or because there might be better options out there? Sticking with this formation is meaning we are playing people out of form and out of position. I think Fowler needs to be able to identify which players are and aren't up to standard, and work out a way to get the best players on the park.
Also, Inman and ROD being in-form and scoring some of the chances they have missed doesn't fix the fact that we haven't looked like a cohesive, well playing side for 80-90% of the season. The squad was recruited for 3-5-2 so no one is being played out of position unintentionally. And if players are out of form in 3-5-2 they’ll be out of form in 4-4-2 or any other formation confidence and self belief are fragile things in football and that now seems to be part of the problem. Agree. This team has a major confidence issue. And for that reason I think that CCM may win this weekend. I see this game playing out two ways: 1/ Roar sit back and allow Mariners to run at them and they’ll concede sooner or later and likely lose. 2/ Roar get on the front foot and take the game to Mariners and use their physical strength to boss the game, then they’ll win comfortably. I cant see (2) happening without 2-3 changes. DWH/ROD up front. Inman, O’Shay, O’Neill in the middle Back 3 as-is with Courtney-Perkins/Jingham out wide Young in goal for the sake of change. I’d also push O’shay so far forward it looks like a 3-4-3 ... Suncorp is the biggest pitch in the league, so use it.
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+x+x+x+x+xNix was our worst game without doubt, 85 minutes of shite and five where they looked like they at least cared. But the first 45 vs City weren’t far behind. All the other games have just been inconsistent and on another day Roar have 10-12 points on the board and sit in the right half of the table instead. But they dont, and they now look like a team lacking in confidence. The one thing I’ve never liked is to see players lacking in confidence kept in the team too long, it’s contagious and/or other players try compensating for them causing their own performance to suffer. So theres a lot of talk about changing formation but why would you - if Inman and ROD has been in form over those first few games they would have won plenty. 6 games later though and we have question marks over defensive players Aldred, Gillesphey and Crocombe instead who, in the first four games, were solid enough ..... it’s a funny old game football; the strikers stuff up and it’s the defenders that fall apart 🤪 I mean, maybe because it isn't working? Or because there might be better options out there? Sticking with this formation is meaning we are playing people out of form and out of position. I think Fowler needs to be able to identify which players are and aren't up to standard, and work out a way to get the best players on the park.
Also, Inman and ROD being in-form and scoring some of the chances they have missed doesn't fix the fact that we haven't looked like a cohesive, well playing side for 80-90% of the season. The squad was recruited for 3-5-2 so no one is being played out of position unintentionally. And if players are out of form in 3-5-2 they’ll be out of form in 4-4-2 or any other formation confidence and self belief are fragile things in football and that now seems to be part of the problem. Agree. This team has a major confidence issue. And for that reason I think that CCM may win this weekend. I see this game playing out two ways: 1/ Roar sit back and allow Mariners to run at them and they’ll concede sooner or later and likely lose. 2/ Roar get on the front foot and take the game to Mariners and use their physical strength to boss the game, then they’ll win comfortably. I cant see (2) happening without 2-3 changes. DWH/ROD up front. Inman, O’Shay, O’Neill in the middle Back 3 as-is with Courtney-Perkins/Jingham out wide Young in goal for the sake of change. I’d also push O’shay so far forward it looks like a 3-4-3 ... Suncorp is the biggest pitch in the league, so use it. Agree with your thinking, but RF seems hell bent on not giving DWH a start. Can't see it happening.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xNix was our worst game without doubt, 85 minutes of shite and five where they looked like they at least cared. But the first 45 vs City weren’t far behind. All the other games have just been inconsistent and on another day Roar have 10-12 points on the board and sit in the right half of the table instead. But they dont, and they now look like a team lacking in confidence. The one thing I’ve never liked is to see players lacking in confidence kept in the team too long, it’s contagious and/or other players try compensating for them causing their own performance to suffer. So theres a lot of talk about changing formation but why would you - if Inman and ROD has been in form over those first few games they would have won plenty. 6 games later though and we have question marks over defensive players Aldred, Gillesphey and Crocombe instead who, in the first four games, were solid enough ..... it’s a funny old game football; the strikers stuff up and it’s the defenders that fall apart 🤪 I mean, maybe because it isn't working? Or because there might be better options out there? Sticking with this formation is meaning we are playing people out of form and out of position. I think Fowler needs to be able to identify which players are and aren't up to standard, and work out a way to get the best players on the park.
Also, Inman and ROD being in-form and scoring some of the chances they have missed doesn't fix the fact that we haven't looked like a cohesive, well playing side for 80-90% of the season. The squad was recruited for 3-5-2 so no one is being played out of position unintentionally. And if players are out of form in 3-5-2 they’ll be out of form in 4-4-2 or any other formation confidence and self belief are fragile things in football and that now seems to be part of the problem. Agree. This team has a major confidence issue. And for that reason I think that CCM may win this weekend. I see this game playing out two ways: 1/ Roar sit back and allow Mariners to run at them and they’ll concede sooner or later and likely lose. 2/ Roar get on the front foot and take the game to Mariners and use their physical strength to boss the game, then they’ll win comfortably. I cant see (2) happening without 2-3 changes. DWH/ROD up front. Inman, O’Shay, O’Neill in the middle Back 3 as-is with Courtney-Perkins/Jingham out wide Young in goal for the sake of change. I’d also push O’shay so far forward it looks like a 3-4-3 ... Suncorp is the biggest pitch in the league, so use it. Agree with your thinking, but RF seems hell bent on not giving DWH a start. Can't see it happening. Yeah, don’t get DWH. He’s not the best footballer but he always gives you passion and drive and he Does worry defences. I also like the idea of Holloway coming off the bench midway through the second half, he’s a bit of a beast all be it with a small engine apparently
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+x+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days? I bet for fun and as an emotional side bet for Roar games....I am well ahead..I love the two goals ahead rule.When Roar won their game against MC,I put $5 on MC and it paid a win.Best of both worlds.Lol Last weekend AU,SFC,WP and MC were favourites and I won on all.CCM was a loss. Previous week three winners picked ,SFC,MC and AU...Even though MC lost.One loss. The week before that only two favourites won.A Roar draw upset ,CCM upset and WU upset. I dont smoke so $5 to make each game interesting is fine ...While im ahead .Lol
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+x+x+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days? I bet for fun and as an emotional side bet for Roar games....I am well ahead..I love the two goals ahead rule.When Roar won their game against MC,I put $5 on MC and it paid a win.Best of both worlds.Lol Last weekend AU,SFC,WP and MC were favourites and I won on all.CCM was a loss. Previous week three winners picked ,SFC,MC and AU...Even though MC lost.One loss. The week before that only two favourites won.A Roar draw upset ,CCM upset and WU upset. I dont smoke so $5 to make each game interesting is fine ...While im ahead .Lol I could never bet on Roar games - I tip them for a win every week and I’ve been right 5 times in the last 35 games 😭
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+x+x+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days? I bet for fun and as an emotional side bet for Roar games....I am well ahead..I love the two goals ahead rule.When Roar won their game against MC,I put $5 on MC and it paid a win.Best of both worlds.Lol Last weekend AU,SFC,WP and MC were favourites and I won on all.CCM was a loss. Previous week three winners picked ,SFC,MC and AU...Even though MC lost.One loss. The week before that only two favourites won.A Roar draw upset ,CCM upset and WU upset. I dont smoke so $5 to make each game interesting is fine ...While im ahead .Lol The easiest money last year was betting on total goals in a Roar game would be greater than the line. More often that not, it was a winning bet.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's finally happened. Roar are favourites for the first time this season . They are strong favourites to beat CCM,having not lost to them for yonks. We were favourites against Victory. Funny world. This is the first time the bookies have them favourites. Just out of interest, are their any stats on how accurate bookies are these days? I bet for fun and as an emotional side bet for Roar games....I am well ahead..I love the two goals ahead rule.When Roar won their game against MC,I put $5 on MC and it paid a win.Best of both worlds.Lol Last weekend AU,SFC,WP and MC were favourites and I won on all.CCM was a loss. Previous week three winners picked ,SFC,MC and AU...Even though MC lost.One loss. The week before that only two favourites won.A Roar draw upset ,CCM upset and WU upset. I dont smoke so $5 to make each game interesting is fine ...While im ahead .Lol The easiest money last year was betting on total goals in a Roar game would be greater than the line. More often that not, it was a winning bet. So true, Brisbane game totals over 2.5 or 3.5 were literally the only Aleague bets I did last year.
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Yeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch.
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+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up
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+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract.
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+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred.
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+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. I agree. I think ROD is past it (never really rated him) and Gilesphy looks to be too slow. Maybe the Roar can use a few Sydney FC or Victory salary cap management techniques and move those 2 on for a couple of better options.
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+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. I also agree. He can also use his body well to win the ball in 50/50s and bring it through opposition, although he seems to be used more as a target for the higher ball in for now.
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. I agree. I think ROD is past it (never really rated him) and Gilesphy looks to be too slow. Maybe the Roar can use a few Sydney FC or Victory salary cap management techniques and move those 2 on for a couple of better options. On Gillesphey - he can't be the slowest CB in the world surely...? Is it just inexperience or is it ability that he cannot improve when they keep getting in behind him? Is Aldred holding too high a line where Gillesphey would otherwise drop back a few more metres to offset other team's speed?
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+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. Yes he has those qualities, he is definitely strong in the air and can bring others into play from the high ball but it is more the style of play that we resort to when he is on. we just pump balls forward in the air we become so one dimensional. the style of play is just hard to watch. I cant say he has a good shot on him because he barely ever shoots. i think simply due to his lack of endurance and the fact that we resort to hoofball when he is on makes me think that he is not worth a spot. (if we were scoring a bucketload with the hoofball then that would take away some of my concerns but we arnt and dont really look likely either.)
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+x+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. Yes he has those qualities, he is definitely strong in the air and can bring others into play from the high ball but it is more the style of play that we resort to when he is on. we just pump balls forward in the air we become so one dimensional. the style of play is just hard to watch. I cant say he has a good shot on him because he barely ever shoots. i think simply due to his lack of endurance and the fact that we resort to hoofball when he is on makes me think that he is not worth a spot. (if we were scoring a bucketload with the hoofball then that would take away some of my concerns but we arnt and dont really look likely either.) I don't think we need to play that way with him though. To my eye he seems to be good enough with the ball at his feet, and can do more than just bring down long balls, so really having him on should give us that as well as the possibility of balls over the top. Whether Fowler doesn't see it the same and thinks he is only good enough to play hoofball, i'm not sure. I agree regarding him not having many chances to shoot, and again I think that is due to Fowler playing him as more of a support to the other striker. I'd like to see him playing up top in a front 3.
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I think the comments about Gillesphey have to be considered in context.
He seems to be the guy deepest and left to chase the strikers getting behind the line.
Is he slower than Aldred or Bowles when turning to chase or are they all in the same boat?
If you look around the league which CB defenders can confidently defend a high line? I struggle to think of any.
Overall as I have said before i dont see Aldred or Gillesphey as being any better than half the Aussie CB's going around.They are nt the worst players going around ,but are pretty much a waste of two visa spots.
A-Holloway is a decent hold up man.But I dont think he is a high work rate guy.So he is a bit of a luxury in a side that is supposed to be high energy and is struggling .Maybe its fitness,because he hasnt played that much and we know from history that visa players who arent fit at the start of the season tend to struggle all season.Time will tell as he is here for two years.
Have we seen DWH and A-Holloway play at the same time for any t
length of time yet?
DWH's strength was his ruthlessness around the box.So you would think any half chances created by AH would more likley be finished than by ROD.
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Holloway showed much greater attacking depth in preseason but has not been 'allowed' to use his skills to the same extent in the season proper. He was a beast in midfield in preseason, ran round or through players trying to stop him, and linked well with his forwards. He just hasn't been using his full skill set - including starting his run a bit deeper and bringing it with him through or near the middle. Maybe that is Robbie directing his play, maybe it is the higher level opposition, maybe he is afraid of losing the ball now for some reason.
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+x+x+x+xYeah - we just did that. But you would expect most clubs to try and re-sign most of their core players rather than starting from scratch. Fowler basically didn’t sign anyone to a one year contract, this is slightly unusual especially given the number of signings he did make (15?) and gives him little wiggle room. I would questions whether Mells, McGing or Jingham needed a two year contract tbh, and I would have thought O’Neills loan would be up I am more concerned about the internationals. we have all our visa spots on multi year contracts and only Oshea and Aldred look to be of the required quality. we now have to look only at australian players to improve the squad who are typically much more expensive (over paid). though i agree that mells, mcging and ingham, should never have been given more than a years contract. I must be seeing something in Amadi-Holloway that others aren't. To me he has shown he has a decent shot, can win the ball in the air, can hold up the ball and looks to be reasonably creative in finding passes to bring others into the play. Certainly seems to be question marks over his endurance, but I think in the limited minutes he has had, he's shown at least as much as O'Shea and Aldred. yep agreed ...I have been impressed at all his appearances so far .I would start him with Roy and bring DWH on second half. DWH can feed offscraps .
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There's no doubt about it, though - we are discussing a poor group of players. Think back to Ange's teams and Mulvey's Championship team, then line them up against Fowler's motley crew. Talk about the sublime to the gore blimey. Is there a single player in our first 11 who would start for City, SFC, Wanderers, Glory, Adelaide or Western United? Or even Victory or the Jets? The answer has to be no, and that is a damning indictment of Robbie Fowler.
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+xHolloway showed much greater attacking depth in preseason but has not been 'allowed' to use his skills to the same extent in the season proper. He was a beast in midfield in preseason, ran round or through players trying to stop him, and linked well with his forwards. He just hasn't been using his full skill set - including starting his run a bit deeper and bringing it with him through or near the middle. Maybe that is Robbie directing his play, maybe it is the higher level opposition, maybe he is afraid of losing the ball now for some reason. Maybe the correct answer is the most obvious - he's not very good. We are talking about a player who conspicuously failed as an English Div 3 striker. A lot of our players looked decent in pre season against amateur or semi pro sides. Of course they would. They are better than that. It's just that they fall over against decent A League opposition. I'm over trying to call Fowler's sow's ear team a silk purse. To shift the metaphor, it's time to start calling spades spades here.
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+xThere's no doubt about it, though - we are discussing a poor group of players. Think back to Ange's teams and Mulvey's Championship team, then line them up against Fowler's motley crew. Talk about the sublime to the gore blimey. Is there a single player in our first 11 who would start for City, SFC, Wanderers, Glory, Adelaide or Western United? Or even Victory or the Jets? The answer has to be no, and that is a damning indictment of Robbie Fowler. O'Shea is good quality. So is O'Neil, don't understand why he was on the bench last week.
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I see something in AH too, so agree with what you are saying.
I think he has shown he could contribute more if given the minutes and I was surprised he was taken off half time when I thort he was at causing some problems for the opposition.
Whereas I didn't see that from ROD. So that sub surprised me.
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+x+xThere's no doubt about it, though - we are discussing a poor group of players. Think back to Ange's teams and Mulvey's Championship team, then line them up against Fowler's motley crew. Talk about the sublime to the gore blimey. Is there a single player in our first 11 who would start for City, SFC, Wanderers, Glory, Adelaide or Western United? Or even Victory or the Jets? The answer has to be no, and that is a damning indictment of Robbie Fowler. O'Shea is good quality. So is O'Neil, don't understand why he was on the bench last week. No player of quality comes from a struggling team in the English division 4. To try and to suggest otherwise flies in the face of objective real time. O'Neil is thoroughly ordinary.
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