But nothing was "DELIBERATELY PITCHED OUTSIDE LEG with an obvious LEG THEORY FIELD". WAGNER AIMS FOR THE BODY. HE IS BOWLING BODYLINE". My last word on the subject.

bumping in case you missed it.
"pro NSW progaganda"  That is hypocritical crap. I have never been biased towards a bloke purely because he wears a two Blues cap.. I have always shown objectivity. Unlike you when it comes to those players wearing the maroon one. So dont go filling people here with your lies..just to denigrate me.
Mike reckon its time to join Paddles elsewhere. Your kinda bias and arrogance aint needed here. You blokes are devisive.. not good form on this friendly forum. We may be small but we enjoy our little comments and debates.. but you always go over the top to prove your point. I think your prime concern is to bring down other posters.. arrogance and belittlement we dont need on this site. So please take another hike.. and make it permanent this time. I wont be posting on my own when Shield returns btw. 

There are some on here that love bagging Tim Paine's keeping. Moreso on that other moronic site. JL calls Paine still the world's best keeper. Who are we to argue.
https://youtu.be/sBZY64ix440

All bouncers are aimed at the body. How else could they ever get a wicket. Whether its the badge on the helmet or the ribs, all bouncers are aimed at the batsman on a bodyline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp17RYl5d1M - where are these head shots aimed at? The stumps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU - This is where the WI start it in 1976. Look what happens to Close. SOmeome tell me where Michael Holding is aiming if not the body? He tenderises him up like a cheap steak ready to be bbq'd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOQn-kGpGk - at the 1 min mark - another West Indian favourite -  long made famous by Roberts, Croft and Marshall, here Ambrose bowls AROUND the wicket to a rhb and bounces him. Now its impossible to get more deliberately pitching wide outside leg, than a rhb bowler - bowling to a rhb AROUND the wicket.... Remember Marshall's sledge to Boon -  you gonna get out or do I have to bowl around the wicket and kill you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOGoiaZlX8 - was there always someone out to catch the hook shot? You bet cha.

It was just over and over of this stuff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0O3oK9bSBI - - and noone retired more batsmen out hurt than Courtney Walsh. Watch him in that long video in Australia take out Wessels. Brute of a ball.

This may your last word on the subject, but its quite bizarre you think the bouncer is aimed somewhere other than at a batsman. And even more so if  you do not think the WI field was set for the bouncer barrage. The WI were right handed bowlers, thus a lot of the fending off of bouncers from an angle in went to slips, but sometimes - they would bowl around the wicket. Now - there is no lbw or even bowleds if the batsman stands ground to around the wicket.That is just to rough the batsman up. And they did it.

To claim that Wagner is doing anything near as rough as what the WI did is laughable. Let alone that he doing something worse. But how as a cricket fan you could forget the WI bouncer barrage of the quartet - I am simply astonished. Its one of the most famous ever phases of cricket history. Fire in Babylon. You don't have to saviour Wagner's success - but it would be nice to have some objective perspective on this as against WI, THommo, Mitch J, etc 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHgNJCI1mo - FIre in Babylon trailer - a must watch for any cricket fan who wants to know about the famous WI quartet teams of LLoyd and Richards, the why's and how's. A young Jason Holder is the kid playing on the beach. 

Paddles, watch it you're using basic geometry there, it may go over some heads. Right hand bowlers going over the wicket to a right hand batsman will always pitch the ball outside off, even though it will hit the head. When the West Indies were bowling they were all right arm bowlers (I'm sure you may think of a left armer but I can't off the top of my head), and at the time left hand batsmen were a rarity, there were some like Border and Wessels and basic geometry does state that to hit the stumps or bounce the batsman most balls would indeed pitch outside leg to a left handed batsman. Here is an example of Baggers favourite Glenn McGrath taking his hatrick, a right arm bowler over the wicket to 1 right hander and 2 left handers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toky3I9RKXE

Correct me if I'm wrong but to Cambell, a right hander, the ball pitched outside off but it appears to me to be at the line of the body when he got the edge actually if he missed it it may have struck him in the groin, and so much bodily injury could result from that, think of his abillity to have children. To Lara, a left hander, the ball pitched outside the line of leg and would have hit Lara if Lara didn't protect himself with the bat. But the best of all is poor Jimmy Adams another left hander, who Australia deliberately put a short leg in for the deliberate bouncer that pitched well outside leg, the big bullies, it's just not right, it was so deliberate and was a bodyline delivery.

And of course reversing that a left arm bowler bowling over the wicket at a right hand batsmen will always pitch outside the line of leg if bowling at the line of the stumps. Geometry! Just because the batsman is in the way of the stumps isn't a left armers fault. Maybe Baggers wants all left arm bowlers banned, but that would mean all left hand batsmen would have to be banned. That's discrimination!

Once again I may be wrong again, but if a team wants to stack 7 fielders on the leg side as long as only 2 are behind square leg, that is within the rules and if that is the line they wish to bowl once again within the rules. Since the West Indies changed the bouncer rules (a ball deemed to be going over the shoulders in a batting position) limiting the use to just 2 per over, there is no stipulation on the line of a delivery, apart from really wide of leg which the umpires can deem negative bowling. But if that is negative bowling, then surely stacking the field with 9 fielders on off with the bowler bowling 1 meter outside off is also negative bowling, but in fact is worse because the bowler has no intention of taking a wicket, because its not hitting the stumps, let it go through to the keeper. Even worse how about putting all the fielders on the boundary to prevent a run chase.....ITS JUST NOT CRICKET.

By the way Baggers, Inside Sport is a sporting magazine which has a forum attached to it, and in the true sense of the word is a public meeting place for the exchange of ideas. In roman times where the word originated it was a place of debate, arguments for and against an idea. Most probably the magazine welcomes the forum to allow the development of stories, so an argument backed up by documentation, that Paddles and I do supply, is probably more welcome than a friendly pow wow. Afterall the authors of the stories don't want to publish something that can be ripped apart for being incorrect, it would lead to a diminished reputation of the author and the publication. I doubt very much Inside Sport is going to publish "Because Baggers says so". Documentation to support makes it harder to argue against. But because You were so polite Baggers with no chastisement from DC I may pop in now and again if my schedule allows it.

Also DC you have appeared to blame my presence for absent posters, who have always disappeared when cricket is not on, especially Bobbie the charming lady on this site, who hasn't posted for months now, before I came back. I hardly think she is psychic, Who knows maybe some creepy guy sent a personal message to her maybe asking to catch up with her, that has put her off coming back, that has happened on other sites that I know of and is unfortunately the negative aspect of forum sites with personal message attachments. Very inappropriate behaviour if you ask me if that is the case, but only Bobbie could explain her reasons for not being here, and I doubt very much it has to do with me.