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+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes.
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+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus.
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+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking?
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Faced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
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2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it.
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+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
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2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough.
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+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;)
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Waz
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+x+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
or
2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough. That’s what I mean about football culture, or lack of in this country.
Some sides are offensive, some sides are defensive. That is football. Making sides play a certain way in the name of entertainment is trying to “Big Bash” football.
No wonder we’re shit when we get to world cups.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I'm just here to stir the pot :laugh:
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And a comment off one of the blogs: Samuel PowerRoar Rookie That was seriously a great game to watch. Even though it finished 1-1, both teams threw everything at it and the crowd getting involved towards the end was sensational. Exactly what the competition needed, one of the best matches this season so far
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I'm just here to stir the pot :laugh: Does that make you a wooden spooner then?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. I’m in it for the sport now.
I had a bloody brilliant day out.
Met a bloke who “has issues” with doing the Bouncy-Bouncy, a Glory fan who always takes his shoes and socks off when Glory are winning, and some nut job that drinks his beer from his right shoe every time Roar score. And I didn’t even get to see Richard Roar in his full kit and Orange feathers in his hat 😂
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+x+x+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
or
2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough. That’s what I mean about football culture, or lack of in this country.
Some sides are offensive, some sides are defensive. That is football. Making sides play a certain way in the name of entertainment is trying to “Big Bash” football.
No wonder we’re shit when we get to world cups. What is there to lose by playing fast offensive enjoyable football in this particular league in its current state? We are trying to attract fans, even CCM attempt to play fast free flowing stuff even though they are terrible.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I'm just here to stir the pot :laugh: Does that make you a wooden spooner then? even if we tried I think mariners have that one this season
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I'm just here to stir the pot :laugh: Does that make you a wooden spooner then? even if we tried I think mariners have that one this season Never say never ;)
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+x+x+x+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
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2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough. That’s what I mean about football culture, or lack of in this country.
Some sides are offensive, some sides are defensive. That is football. Making sides play a certain way in the name of entertainment is trying to “Big Bash” football.
No wonder we’re shit when we get to world cups. What is there to lose by playing fast offensive enjoyable football in this particular league in its current state? We are trying to attract fans, even CCM attempt to play fast free flowing stuff even though they are terrible. “trying to attract fans” ... Thats Gallop speak. Next it’ll be buckets on heads.
We don’t need to attract “fans” we need to attract “football people” who get the game, who can appreciate how hard it is, football people who respect what defenders do, what midfielders do and yes, appreciate good attacking football when they see it but respect and appreciate the whole game.
You can’t “Big Bash” football.
(And plenty of people found this game really entertaining by the way. Just because the trolls with agendas say they didn’t doesn’t make them right!)
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+x+x+x+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
or
2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough. That’s what I mean about football culture, or lack of in this country.
Some sides are offensive, some sides are defensive. That is football. Making sides play a certain way in the name of entertainment is trying to “Big Bash” football.
No wonder we’re shit when we get to world cups. What is there to lose by playing fast offensive enjoyable football in this particular league in its current state? We are trying to attract fans, even CCM attempt to play fast free flowing stuff even though they are terrible. I mean, Fowler could lose his job I suppose?
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+x+x+x+x+xFaced with overwhelming evidence that Fowler can coach, that the team is better than expected, and individual players are performing better than expected and are certainly not embarrassed in the A-League, there’s a couple of choices for our local trolls.
1/ Admit they may have been over zealous in their early criticisms of Fowler and his signings and, albeit begrudgingly, acknowledge they are performing better than they expected.
or
2/ Carry on regardless and nit-pick over style of play and what bus route Fowler’s following. This relies on ignoring objective things like recent results and the table as it stands and focusing on subjective things that can hardly be measured
There’s a bit of humility required in (1) but there’s more sport in (2).
It would seem sport is the name of the game for some. (and no, this comment is not aimed at fellow Roar fans with disagreements over style etc. )
The only plus to all this troll-like activity is it’s added spice to an otherwise fairly dull season for the HAL overall.
Every Roar game is eagerly anticipated by trolls hoping the next result will provide more ammunition while (most) Roar supporters optimistically hope it won’t.
It’s marketing Jim, but not as we know it - can’t wait for Sunday arvo with another barge travelling contingent heading down south. Bring it on, this seasons going to be over before we know it. No team in this salary capped league should be as defensive and boring as they Roar currently are....if there was the threat of relegation then fair enough. That’s what I mean about football culture, or lack of in this country.
Some sides are offensive, some sides are defensive. That is football. Making sides play a certain way in the name of entertainment is trying to “Big Bash” football.
No wonder we’re shit when we get to world cups. What is there to lose by playing fast offensive enjoyable football in this particular league in its current state? We are trying to attract fans, even CCM attempt to play fast free flowing stuff even though they are terrible. I mean, Fowler could lose his job I suppose? king has point, fast counter attacking football adopted by JA last season was a treat to watch. The results were fantastic too, set a League record for goals conceded.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. C’mon, no ones denying it needs to be better but that shoots a couple of Fox’s in relation to earlier comments that’s all.
And how you can “park the bus” but still get both your wing-backs and defensive midfielder caught off side is anyone’s guess.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. This game v City should be a cracker , hopefully goals galore , Adkinson v Brown will be crucial as will keeping the top 3 for city at bay
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. C’mon, no ones denying it needs to be better but that shoots a couple of Fox’s in relation to earlier comments that’s all.
And how you can “park the bus” but still get both your wing-backs and defensive midfielder caught off side is anyone’s guess. Getting caught off-side is in that massive total 4 minutes of joy we're suppose to be getting LOL. So noone has said 100% parking the bus.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. This game v City should be a cracker , hopefully goals galore , Adkinson v Brown will be crucial as will keeping the top 3 for city at bay I predicted 3-1 to City if they show up that is. If they have a bad day it will 0-0. Can't see us winning. I think we're a couple of good players away from being titled mediocre. Pity the best we could do is Brown and Maca over the Jan window.
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Are you suggesting we use these sunglasses to shield our eyes from the non-stop happiness and sunshine you continue to radiate?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. And when you actually watch each incident, the blog description of quite a few is not particularly accurate, and in some cases borders on fiction. For example: 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat What really happened - Hingert received the ball in an offside position on the side of the penalty area, about 6 metres from the backline, i.e., a tight angle towards goal. Flag immediately goes up and referee blows whistle. 3-4 Perth defenders still between Hingert and Reddy. Even after another two passes after Hingert was given offside there was no way a reasonable person would interpret the situation as Hingert only having the keeper to beat. 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot What really happened - these two entries read as Gillesphey having two shots on goal within three minutes. In fact the second one never happened, I suspect the blog has two entries about the same incident. The actual incident was Gillesphey hitting the ball along the ground from about 30 m out on an angle. It was targeted about 15-20 m to the right of the goal. It reached a Perth defender on the edge of the penalty area who kicked it clear. If blog entries like this are being used as examples of Brisbane's attacking prowess, then it is an indication of how toothless they were in attack in the first half. And these are just a couple of examples, a few other of the blog entries presented give an exaggerated impression of Brisbane's attack. By the way I am a Brisbane supporter, I always want them to do well, but I call things as I see them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think the loose term "parking the bus", whilst not technical in description is quite meaningful and valid. When you park the bus / stack the defence, it is because the circumstances gives you little or no tactical choice unless you have 1 or 2 very speedy attackers then it could be a deliberate ploy to break fast and score on the counter. Roar are completely incapable of the latter, so they park the bus and scramble to defend. Much improvement is needed in that department, particularly in the 1st half. I don't consider our solid/structured defence is parking the bus, but because our attack is not working yet everything hangs off not conceding and it appears we are often totally defensive when viewed by output alone. We look to build creatively and consistently out of our back line all the time. Often it works to bring the ball through high presses and weight of opposition numbers - then it just struggles to find the goal. We do not often hang 7 or 8 players back there without moving up, and we don't boot the ball clear every time things get hairy. Our many unconverted first half opportunities across all our games collectively suggest we are trying to score but doing that part badly. But we are not tortoising around our goal - we are defending it in numbers then pushing out. Many unconverted first half opportunities? I don’t think Brisbane create very many first half opportunities at all. in fact in the last game, there was only one chance created in the first half (McDonald shot wide from a pass from Brown). In addition, this was one of only three times that Brisbane actually got the ball into the Perth penalty area in the first half. And Reddy did not touch the ball with his hands at all during the first half, all of his five touches (excluding goal kicks and free kicks) were using his feet from back passes. Yes many. Say we create on average 2-3 chances in each first half (and that is not being over positive). We have played 18 games so that is somewhere between 36 and 54 opportunities which were largely unconverted. So yes, taken collectively we have failed to convert a large number of goal opportunities across all the games (which is all I was saying). We are trying to create and most often fail to succeed - but we are trying and successfully creating opportunities and that is not parking the bus. 2 - 3 chances a half, that equals 40 mins of parking the bus and 5 mins of attacking? So easy to forget all the trying that we also did that did not result in opportunities. Let's not completely ignore the point I was making ;) I went back to the match blog: 3 minutes - O’Shea through ball to MacDonald cut out in edge of area. 4 minutes - MacDonald gets behind the defence but is disposed by Tomislav Mrcela 5 minutes - Hinger gets behind the defence but the cross is intercepted 6th minute - corner to Roar 6th minute - blocked shot from Jay O’Shea 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat 16th minute - “Brisbane are playing very compact and leaving no space in between the lines, but when the midfield presses they move up as a unit, which shows the work being done on the training ground” (sic) 21st - McDONALD caught narginally offside with inky the keeper to beat (Pen over turned in the process) 27th - McDonakd fouled by mcela just outside the box 28 - O’Sheas cross goes over everyone’s head and out for a GK (at the 32nd minute they blogger notes: “Neither team has managed to have a clear cut chance as of yet“) 34 - Inman races onto a ball in behind but just doesn’t get there 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot 43 - McDONALD misses with only the keeper to beat 44 - Corey Brown caught offside 45 - Pepper caught offside 45+1 McDonald attmepts to find Inman in behind, but the ball just strays wide. You really are spoiling it for them Waz. You have clearly run those comments through your anti-boredom orange filter. Quite impressive reading I think. At 10 secs each on average per incident, that's under 4 minutes total of being spoilt - LOL. And when you actually watch each incident, the blog description of quite a few is not particularly accurate, and in some cases borders on fiction. For example: 10th minute - Hingert offside with only the keeper to beat What really happened - Hingert received the ball in an offside position on the side of the penalty area, about 6 metres from the backline, i.e., a tight angle towards goal. Flag immediately goes up and referee blows whistle. 3-4 Perth defenders still between Hingert and Reddy. Even after another two passes after Hingert was given offside there was no way a reasonable person would interpret the situation as Hingert only having the keeper to beat. 38 - Inman finds a pocket and plays it square to Gillesphey who drives a low shot at goal, but Mrcela blocks well. .41 - Gillesphey misses with an angled left field shot What really happened - these two entries read as Gillesphey having two shots on goal within three minutes. In fact the second one never happened, I suspect the blog has two entries about the same incident. The actual incident was Gillesphey hitting the ball along the ground from about 30 m out on an angle. It was targeted about 15-20 m to the right of the goal. It reached a Perth defender on the edge of the penalty area who kicked it clear. If blog entries like this are being used as examples of Brisbane's attacking prowess, then it is an indication of how toothless they were in attack in the first half. And these are just a couple of examples, a few other of the blog entries presented give an exaggerated impression of Brisbane's attack. By the way I am a Brisbane supporter, I always want them to do well, but I call things as I see them. 4 minutes total is generous, I know. Can' spoil all their fun :)
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+xAre you suggesting we use these sunglasses to shield our eyes from the non-stop happiness and sunshine you continue to radiate? Can't suggest you use them when they're already glued on some people ;)
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