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Munrubenmuz - 5 Apr 2020 11:36 PM

That's the same link you posted previously, and it mentions the Epidimeologists at Imperial College, even though it doesn't provide any evidence that thery are even qualified.

But let's look at the premise that Doctyor's warned Trump. Who were these Doctors, and why should they be more valid than the official response of the Wuhan Health Organistaion?

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mouflonrouge - 6 Apr 2020 1:14 AM
Munrubenmuz - 5 Apr 2020 11:36 PM

That's the same link you posted previously, and it mentions the Epidimeologists at Imperial College, even though it doesn't provide any evidence that thery are even qualified.

But let's look at the premise that Doctyor's warned Trump. Who were these Doctors, and why should they be more valid than the official response of the Wuhan Health Organistaion?

What was the official response of the WHO at the time that other countries were locking down? (When America should have also been locking down)

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paulbagzFC - 6 Apr 2020 10:47 AM
mouflonrouge - 6 Apr 2020 1:14 AM

What was the official response of the WHO at the time that other countries were locking down? (When America should have also been locking down)

-PB

Not all countries were locking down. Australia still hasn't locked down like some other countries.

There wasn't an official response from WHO. I know Australia was pretty much one of the first to call it a pendemic about 2 weeks before WHO.

The point is, Europe didn't take it seriously. neither did the US. Australia too didn't take it seriously. WHO were even asleep at the wheel.

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paulbagzFC - 6 Apr 2020 10:47 AM
mouflonrouge - 6 Apr 2020 1:14 AM

What was the official response of the WHO at the time that other countries were locking down? (When America should have also been locking down)

-PB

Ignore that flog.  He's too stupid to understand that both Morrison and Trump can't both be right with their responses given their polar opposite approaches.

Either that or, as usual, is trolling.


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Munrubenmuz - 6 Apr 2020 11:14 AM
paulbagzFC - 6 Apr 2020 10:47 AM

Ignore that flog.  He's too stupid to understand that both Morrison and Trump can't both be right with their responses given their polar opposite approaches.

Either that or, as usual, is trolling.

Both responses seem to be common worldwide.

Scott Morrisson probably comparable with Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea.

USA, same as the EU and many more countries like Turkey, and Israel.

But what is astounding is this. WHO was even slower than the US and others. WHY?

And if you blame Trump, then why not virtually every European country and why not the ultimate authority being WHO?

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mouflonrouge - 6 Apr 2020 7:55 PM
Munrubenmuz - 6 Apr 2020 11:14 AM

Both responses seem to be common worldwide.

Scott Morrisson probably comparable with Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea.

USA, same as the EU and many more countries like Turkey, and Israel.

But what is astounding is this. WHO was even slower than the US and others. WHY?

And if you blame Trump, then why not virtually every European country and why not the ultimate authority being WHO?

WHO named this a pandemic before Trump even woke up and had breakfast, so I don't know what you're really talking about. WHO can only really advise on these things, and its the governments and leaders that take action.

Just to put things in perspective, my wife works in a government department researching and collating reports on issues, so she has been aware of this since the middle of December, and had been telling who what and wherever about what is coming.
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NicCarBel - 7 Apr 2020 5:23 PM
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WHO named this a pandemic before Trump even woke up and had breakfast, so I don't know what you're really talking about. WHO can only really advise on these things, and its the governments and leaders that take action.

Just to put things in perspective, my wife works in a government department researching and collating reports on issues, so she has been aware of this since the middle of December, and had been telling who what and wherever about what is coming.

The WHO called it a Pandemic on March 11: Less than one month ago.

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---11-march-2020

Only after they had met with the Chinese leader.



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As stated previously South Korea and the USA had their first confirmed case on the same day. 

Trump's delusions and his desire to not crash the economy will now be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Say whatever you like about the WHO.  Every country in the world who has a clue knew what was coming and took this far more seriously than Trump.

He is directly responsible.  





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Munrubenmuz - 7 Apr 2020 6:46 PM
As stated previously South Korea and the USA had their first confirmed case on the same day. 

Trump's delusions and his desire to not crash the economy will now be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Say whatever you like about the WHO.  Every country in the world who has a clue knew what was coming and took this far more seriously than Trump.

He is directly responsible.  



The WHO was up until COVID 19 a respected world institution.  Its reputation is now in tatters.

Sweden, the UK and Netherlands are clueless?

An estimated 80,000 died of the flu in 2017/18 in the US.  The death rate at one point was as high as 10%.

There's a balance between morbidity due to the disease and morbidity due the economic harm of closing the economy.


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NicCarBel - 7 Apr 2020 5:23 PM
mouflonrouge - 6 Apr 2020 7:55 PM

WHO named this a pandemic before Trump even woke up and had breakfast, so I don't know what you're really talking about. WHO can only really advise on these things, and its the governments and leaders that take action.

Just to put things in perspective, my wife works in a government department researching and collating reports on issues, so she has been aware of this since the middle of December, and had been telling who what and wherever about what is coming.

WHO called it a Pandemic Emergency on the 11th of March.

Trump had already banned travel to and from China, South Korea, Italy, and Spain, on the 9th of March, and then exxpanded the travel ban to and from all Shengen Countries.


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Munrubenmuz - 7 Apr 2020 6:46 PM
As stated previously South Korea and the USA had their first confirmed case on the same day. 

Trump's delusions and his desire to not crash the economy will now be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Say whatever you like about the WHO.  Every country in the world who has a clue knew what was coming and took this far more seriously than Trump.

He is directly responsible.  



Munrubenmuz - 7 Apr 2020 6:46 PM
As stated previously South Korea and the USA had their first confirmed case on the same day. 

Trump's delusions and his desire to not crash the economy will now be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Say whatever you like about the WHO.  Every country in the world who has a clue knew what was coming and took this far more seriously than Trump.

He is directly responsible.  



No they didn't have a clue, which is why so many are in the shit.

WHO have a lot more to answer for.


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https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-leaked-intelligence-report-shows-us-was-warned-about-covid19-in-november/news-story/f46254a64f98f393d9935585611fa77b

“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” one official told the Post last month. “The system was blinking red.”

The New York Times has also reported Trump’s trade adviser Peter Navarro sent an internal White House memo in late January warning of a “full-blown pandemic”


According to the US ABC’s sources, that intelligence was nevertheless provided.

It was comprehensive. It was detailed. It was clear.

“It’s not surprising to me that the intelligence community detected the outbreak,” former Department of Homeland Security undersecretary John Cohen said. “What is surprising and disappointing is that the White House ignored the clear warning signs, failed to follow established pandemic response protocols and were slow to put in place a government-wide effort to respond to this crisis.”





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https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/this-is-how-america-s-coronavirus-response-went-wrong-20200409-p54ii6.html

Chinese pharmaceutical companies supply an estimated 90 per cent of US antibiotics, vitamin C, ibuprofen and hydrocortisone."Never again should we rely on the rest of the world for our essential medicines and countermeasures," Navarro said last week. He has been pushing Trump to force government agencies to procure all of their medical supplies from US manufacturers.


Amazing stat.  Wonder what it is here.


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Munrubenmuz - 9 Apr 2020 8:59 PM
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-leaked-intelligence-report-shows-us-was-warned-about-covid19-in-november/news-story/f46254a64f98f393d9935585611fa77b

“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” one official told the Post last month. “The system was blinking red.”

The New York Times has also reported Trump’s trade adviser Peter Navarro sent an internal White House memo in late January warning of a “full-blown pandemic”


According to the US ABC’s sources, that intelligence was nevertheless provided.

It was comprehensive. It was detailed. It was clear.

“It’s not surprising to me that the intelligence community detected the outbreak,” former Department of Homeland Security undersecretary John Cohen said. “What is surprising and disappointing is that the White House ignored the clear warning signs, failed to follow established pandemic response protocols and were slow to put in place a government-wide effort to respond to this crisis.”



Name me a single country that took it seriously back in January other than Taiwan who was the first country to declare a pandemic on the 31st of December,2019.




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Munrubenmuz - 10 Apr 2020 2:05 PM
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/this-is-how-america-s-coronavirus-response-went-wrong-20200409-p54ii6.html

Chinese pharmaceutical companies supply an estimated 90 per cent of US antibiotics, vitamin C, ibuprofen and hydrocortisone."Never again should we rely on the rest of the world for our essential medicines and countermeasures," Navarro said last week. He has been pushing Trump to force government agencies to procure all of their medical supplies from US manufacturers.


Amazing stat.  Wonder what it is here.

Yes we have an over reliance of Chinese made pharmaceuticals. All this must come under review now. 
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Trump so stupid he thinks antibiotics work against viruses.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/donald-trump-calls-the-coronavirus-a-brilliant-germ-in-bizarre-press-conference/news-story/1264e2222b7c5c7b103c579d12835252

Where's Mr I'm a virology expert to come in a defend Trump.


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Munrubenmuz - 12 Apr 2020 6:50 AM

He's ranting and making little sense as usual but I don't think he's saying antibiotics work on viruses. Sounded like he was taking about antibiotic resistant bacterial infections. (Why I don't know).

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https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-at-war-with-states-over-lockdowns-calls-on-people-to-rise-up-20200418-p54kyz.html

In a series of tweets, the President urged people in Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia to rise up and "liberate" themselves from restrictions.



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Civil war when lol

What a cesspit.

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Munrubenmuz - 18 Apr 2020 1:43 PM
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-at-war-with-states-over-lockdowns-calls-on-people-to-rise-up-20200418-p54kyz.html

In a series of tweets, the President urged people in Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia to rise up and "liberate" themselves from restrictions.

Dear God.

These protests are by far the most selfish, despicable events that have taken place worldwide so far and this moron is not just condoning their actions, he's openly encouraging them? Im lost for words.

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Munrubenmuz - 12 Apr 2020 6:50 AM

He didn't say any such thing.

Did you finish English at school? I'm a migrant and seem to have a better grasp than you do...
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While the pandemic was not declared until March on 30 January the W.H.O. declared the outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC). 
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mouflonrouge - 18 Apr 2020 10:14 PM
Munrubenmuz - 12 Apr 2020 6:50 AM

He didn't say any such thing.

Did you finish English at school? I'm a migrant and seem to have a better grasp than you do...

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Munrubenmuz - 12 Apr 2020 6:50 AM

He didn't say any such thing.

Did you finish English at school? I'm a migrant and seem to have a better grasp than you do...

Love how you pick up on a post from well over a week ago to try and deflect the conversation away from the fact Trump is now telling people to go out and spread the virus.

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mouflonrouge - 18 Apr 2020 10:14 PM

Love how you pick up on a post from well over a week ago to try and deflect the conversation away from the fact Trump is now telling people to go out and spread the virus.

 Funny how you create a lie in your head, then somehow believe it yourselve, and then finally deliver it. 



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robstazzz - 19 Apr 2020 9:26 AM
sydneyfc1987 - 19 Apr 2020 7:33 AM

 Funny how you create a lie in your head, then somehow believe it yourselve, and then finally deliver it. 



The equivalent would be every state premier in Australia saying to stay home and Scomo getting on the telly saying don't worry about that go outside if you want.  

Tell me why you think that'd be ok?


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Munrubenmuz - 19 Apr 2020 11:35 AM
robstazzz - 19 Apr 2020 9:26 AM

The equivalent would be every state premier in Australia saying to stay home and Scomo getting on the telly saying don't worry about that go outside if you want.  

Tell me why you think that'd be ok?

My reply was about someone saying Donald Trump has told people to GO OUT AND SPREAD THE VIRUS. 



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robstazzz - 19 Apr 2020 12:02 PM
Munrubenmuz - 19 Apr 2020 11:35 AM

My reply was about someone saying Donald Trump has told people to GO OUT AND SPREAD THE VIRUS. 



Well seeing not complying with the lockdown is akin to the same thing it's pretty much what he's done.


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While we're at it where's rusty and enzo sticking up for that Tory clown that's caused thousands of unnecessary deaths?


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Munrubenmuz - 19 Apr 2020 12:21 PM
robstazzz - 19 Apr 2020 12:02 PM

Well seeing not complying with the lockdown is akin to the same thing it's pretty much what he's done.

Exactly. 

He is encouraging people to congregate in public to actively disobey any state lockdown. 

That is encouraging people to spread the virus. How can anyone be so partisan they can't see that? 

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