If someone is in gaol they are not going to be shooting anyone or driving a car and that is what it is like, everyone is in a kind of gaol. I do think as  country we have shown the way though at a high cost and I just don't mean the rescue package. Maybe there will be a baby boom at the end. I would rather be here than in USA, especially New York and Minnesota...did you ever listen to Prairie Home Companion with Garrison Keilor? Great show in which he had a standard running joke...the mental defectiveness of Minnesotans. Current events prove he hit the bullseye.

The short answer is left unchecked CV19 spread (and deaths) are exponential.

I'm for sensibly relaxing restrictions when it is safe to do so, I'm not for a total abandonment of discipline and common sense... we can still make CV19 into a disaster if we choose to do so.

We need to get PPE, testing, treatment and tracking in place as we relax restrictions, done right it will be  reasonable balance between additional deaths and economic pain.
We were slow out of the blocks and wasted 2-3 weeks, but after that, Australia has handled CV19 well, let's not undo all that good work...  

If you look at the heartland for Trump, Tennessee would probably be the area of his greatest landslide...but note from my friend in Nashville paints a pretty gloomy picture for Music City USA...wonder if the Trump voters will notice.

  "Oh, yeah, there are protests all over, people out of work and out of money and the promised aid either did not make it, is not enough or they were in too deep a hole. Too many live paycheck to paycheck and the employers were quick to shuck them off, also pulling their health care in the process. 
Some of the Broadway bars were grossing $20 million/yearly, at least a dozen and employed several thousand people, with benefits. Now all are unemployed and have been since March 15. Lower Broadway looks like the ghost town in was in the '80s after the Opry moved and the Ryman was slowly rotting. Noithing like the post-Nashville (tv series) There were 21 new hotels built here last year and nearly that many being built. Many have simply closed, some are on skeleton staff, occupancy rate @5%, a year ago it was 97.8% "

Good riddance to Greenberg. But if it took a pandemic to expose the NRL's dire financial state and poor management, I think the commission has a lot to answer for.  Were they asleep at the wheel. Very convenient to have a scapegoat.  A bit of a " sack the coach" situation.

No doubt Vlan the man was into it from day dot...  just had to get into the right position to strike...

Did the Terrorcrap pull an Adam Elliot and climb a tree to get pics of him in his home???.,,

By him I mean TTT...

I guess it just shows how different NRL is to AFL heirarchy. That AFL vice captain driving p!ssed, crashing cars, breaching lockdown AND social distancing laws could have killed himself or some other innocent bystander, cops a $5000 fine and misses 4 games. As compared to two players who have committed a moral crime and have had their careers cut from underneath them. Makes no sense. 

It’s as simple as the NRLol has been incredibly inconsistent with sanctions... Some attracting a wet lettuce approach and others an iron fist... I wish I could say we hold the community in which we operate in higher esteem than our Mexican counterparts but that’s be crap...

Do u think the penalty for the ping ponger is harsh enough???...

The player probably begged for a minimum 10 game suspension, being forced to play or watch AFL is punishment.

dman, whether the punishment is sufficient or too lenient is not a call I care to make. What my post was referring to  is there appears no consistancy on outcomes of different indisgressions. Having witnessed what punishment was dished out to the AFL player it appears that TTT went totally overboard on how he dealt with the OK and CHN case. Although I did not condone their behaviour, to me it looks like he deliberately made an example of OK and CHN in an attempt to save his position as it was obviously very tenable even before Covid-19 struck.

Plus as it was the Bulldogs that was involved, it was no surprise that the end result was season changing for the Dogs.

good old st george in talks with cory harariaera naeira they say good replacement for tyson frizzel going &  i thought he is degresited 

If CHN is allowed to play for any other club it gives me two directions of thought.
1) That the NRLol are still a joke of an organisation and makes one wonder if TTT was the real underlying problem.
2) That all the moral angst shown by the NRLol was just a facade and a reason to disadvantage the Dogs whilst at the same time smacking Canterbury in the face by allowing him to play for another NRL side.
V'landys needs to be very careful how he allows this scenario to be played out. Are we the only morally compliant club in the comp?

Toddbergs career highlight was Macklemoore concert. 

Interesting story out of SL that I think holds equal relevance for The NRL - a British sports lawyer says all SL contracts are null because of paycuts.

And I don't see how that can be argued against there or here. There is the argument that the Players Association has agreed to the pay cuts (and cut in SC) but I still don't think that can hold an individual to a cut contract.

With the 2021 SC undoubtedly to be cut dramatically, most players, if not all, contracted for 2021 are gonna be facing a cut to what they signed for. Now plenty of them won't want to leave or indeed won't get better offers elsewhere. But if someone gets a better offer elsewhere, even if it doesn't match their (now broken) contract amount - how can they be denied taking it up?

So I think we're gonna see the most player movement post the.. whatever the new June 30th is... and the off season than The NRL or indeed the game has ever seen before. There'll be teams with unrecognisable lists compared to 2020 (and what was expected for 2021), some for better, some for worse. And there'll be players on the market.. or should I say pursuable to better offers... that nobody would've have expected.

Could be good for us, also could be bad for us - because we mightn't be the only ones with roster space for '21 anymore, we might be just one of many.

We just have to hope that we can keep our good players... IMO that boils down to 2 names... Wakeham and Averillo..
With DWZ, Jacko, Elliott, Renouf T and RFM being my next highest priorities...
Everyone else is replacable IMO....

End result is the same, clubs have only so much money to spend... we might be able to sign someone like Cook if it becomes musical chairs...
There is no substitute for recruitment and retention knowing what they are doing... I think our group is switched on..

I posted this some time ago.  Failure to pay would be a breach of contract.  Even if a force majeure clause was on the contracts all obligations would normally cease when it was activated.
Unless they get a good offer players may bide their time pending the size of a new salary cap.  May be better taking action to get their current contract entitlements.

hounddog am i missing something .Wakeham and Averillo..in all to be fare wakeham has played 5 nrl games & averillo 1  they are not 1st grade players YET no way near it for sometime our halfs have been the missing part of the puzzel  remember you need a play maker with a good kicking game which we lack also we have 3 halfs all off contract end of the year in wakeham , cogger, foran will be very interesting what the club will do as for me if all 3 go i wouldnt realy say much 

Tony IMO genuine class and play making ability, stands out like a beacon...

I saw more attacking direction from our halves when Wakeham and Averillo were on the field than I have since 2004.

I saw Cogger play a fairly lame game in reserve grade exactly when he should have stepped up and made a statement.

I've seen Lewis show he isn't a half for 2 games... except perhaps when combined with Foran.. Lewis can improve and is a good player... I'm not sure the halves are his right position...

There is no doubt Foran is class and currently our best option in the halves when fit...

But IMO Wakeham and Averillo are the future of the club and we would be foolish to let either of them go, they are still young, but offer plenty.
In fact if we have both of the field for 80 mins for the rest of the season, I bet that we win more games than we lose, and we may have some upset wins against more highly fancied opposition...

With CHN ruled out, Foran is our only other major attacking weapon, most of the rest of the team are firing blanks in attack, but all they need to do is learn how to run on to passes from the halves. EDIT:: Elliott, Renouf T, RFM and Hoppa offer a bit in attack, they will show that in a better organised team..

Foran, Wakeham and Averillo have plenty of ability to throw the right pass, not all halves in all NRL teams have that ability...decision making and timing... in fact a lot of NRL halves are not great and have to take a lot of risks to make things happen... some games they roll snake eyes... 

I'm sort of surprised I'm the only dogs fan seeing this, yes young players can be higher risk and inconsistent, but class stands out like a beacon, and it always has in all sports since the dawn of time.

If Foran is fit for 2020....

I think our best combo may be...

1. Averillo
6. Foran
7. Wakeham
9 JMK

14. Lewis

IMO the only leak link in that line up is 9.

But it is a big ask for a young guy to step up and play 1 in NRL on the back of limited preparation, but I have confidence we can play Averillo anywhere in the back-line and he will do a great job..

I'll be surprised if I'm wrong, but that can happen, last player I was this confident about was Thurston.

Both of them should play as much NRL as possible this season. Wakeham I'd p[lay every game regardless of form, because I seen him put his body in front of much bigger men in that Rnd 1 game v The Lemons to show he's mentally tough enough to play through bad form.

Averillo if he needs a break or two to get used to the bad days then give him a couple, but keep him rotating through NRL.

They're both major keys in our future.

I'd also have Blondi playing plenty of NRL too, maybe not as much as the other two, but he too needs games because the three of them are the best halves/backs prospects we've developed ourselves in years and we got to invest in them.

So correct me if i'm mistaken but it seems it mostly boils down to whether said players have futures playing exclusively in the NRL or not because that is who they would be taking to court to retrieve lost income from and in doing so you'd basically be cutting ties from having any future deals done with them. So it would be in the best interests of someone playing out their last contract (ie, before hanging up the boots) or someone that is in a position to move overseas and play footy in SL or perhaps Rugby. 

Yep I forgot to mention Biondi-Odo, I from what I have seen, I also like a lot about him...

Specifically what I like is he doesn't just hang out  of the field he tries to make things happen, he takes risks and backs himself... it is good to see young halves with confidence a natural game and attacking instincts... ego  is part of confidence,  guys with low confidence rarely make it..

As the old saying goes "If your are good enough, you are old enough"

So Biondi-Odo could be the back up to Wakeham and Averillo in the halves 2021/2022, what have we got to lose?

EDIT:: Also keep Lewis as another backup,Lewis and Averillo can lay multiple positions... We can let Foran go, and free up valuable money to strengthen other positions, sure it is a gamble, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

When I look through the current NRL teams not many halves stand out as being near the same calibre as Thurston or Cronk.. I've got major question marks on some halves, when the game isn't going their way...If i'm honest not all halves look like natural play makers... or those that do can be very erratic with their best game excellent and their worst game abysmal.. that is the kind of market where you could spend a lot of money for a dud...

Foran has been a bad investment from an injury point of view, but he is no dud, he is better than a lot of NRL halves, when on the paddock.

"The Hunters" on Amazon is intriguing series about Nazi Hunters in USA in 1977 starring Al Pacino. Essentially flashbacks to atrocities in concentration camps and finding them perpetrators in US. Young lead guy, Logan Lerman, is a double for Mitchell Moses and not 100% convinced re Pacino's Jewish accent but I would defy anyone not to be hooked after Episode One.

It's not about suing anyone for lost income, it's about if they get a better offer elsewhere there's no binding contract that could prevent them from taking it up and moving on.

It'd be a brave player who tries suing for lost income, they'd basically become a pariah.

Has TK become a statistic of C19???...

No idea.... and even less interest... 

Auntie Rae out!!!... Swap deal on the cards???... not bloody likely with vlan the man in charge!!!...