FFA CEO James Johnson | 'Let's put football first'


FFA CEO James Johnson | 'Let's put football first'

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yeh, I thought Hyundai was old news

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But anything is better than Lowy............LOL

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all the wonderful money didn't garantee a great league, it smelt by the halfway mark and look where the money got Lowys AL, a basket case lol....




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After 2 years without the Lowy’s, the sponsors and TV stations has deserted the league such is their confidence in this new lot.

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paulc - 13 May 2020 1:52 PM
After 2 years without the Lowy’s, the sponsors and TV stations has deserted the league such is their confidence in this new lot.

Steven Lowy stood down in November 2018, thats only 17 months ago. 

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/10131264

David Gallop stood down in December 2019, that’s less than 6 months ago. 


But yeah, expect the new FFA to turn the supertanker on a dime 😂



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Waz - 13 May 2020 2:06 PM
paulc - 13 May 2020 1:52 PM

Steven Lowy stood down in November 2018, thats only 17 months ago. 

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/10131264

David Gallop stood down in December 2019, that’s less than 6 months ago. 


But yeah, expect the new FFA to turn the supertanker on a dime 😂



Also they knew what Convid - 19 would do Hyundai Sales plunge 70%

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Waz - 13 May 2020 2:06 PM
paulc - 13 May 2020 1:52 PM

Steven Lowy stood down in November 2018, thats only 17 months ago. 

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/10131264

David Gallop stood down in December 2019, that’s less than 6 months ago. 


But yeah, expect the new FFA to turn the supertanker on a dime 😂



Splitting hairs are we? No action to date, no plan, no vision - is possible to produce even within 3 months. If you're competent that is.

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It takes a while to clear the dead wood, as its dead and needs serious effort to move. Once that's gone lets see where we are. The $6 Mill per annum price tag for the naming rights of the A League was very good value for the company! To me it smacks of a mate's deal, which is certainly what you would expect from the Lowy's. I would be very very surprised if the next deal is not for substantially more.
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Blew.2 - 13 May 2020 3:56 PM
Waz - 13 May 2020 2:06 PM

Also they knew what Convid - 19 would do Hyundai Sales plunge 70%

Except Hyundai was rumored to be leaving before COVID, but dont let that get in the way of your story









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AJF - 14 May 2020 11:28 AM
Blew.2 - 13 May 2020 3:56 PM

Except Hyundai was rumored to be leaving before COVID, but dont let that get in the way of your story

Correct. Hyundai we’re ready to pull out last year - 15 years is an astonishing length for a sponsorship contract though 👍
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Footballking55 - 14 May 2020 11:07 AM
It takes a while to clear the dead wood, as its dead and needs serious effort to move. Once that's gone lets see where we are. The $6 Mill per annum price tag for the naming rights of the A League was very good value for the company! To me it smacks of a mate's deal, which is certainly what you would expect from the Lowy's. I would be very very surprised if the next deal is not for substantially more.

You mean like the TV rights?

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paulc - 14 May 2020 11:55 AM
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You mean like the TV rights?

Although some people are keen to sing Lowy’s praises his way of operating sponsorship was controversial and self-serving for the FFA. 

Once Lowy had signed up Hyundai it locked out all other car manufacturers as sponsors, pretty much across football but certainly with the A League clubs. So an FFA gain was often a loss for the ten clubs. 

They only changed the rules a couple of years back, due to CFG pressure, and allowed competing car manufacturers as sponsors at club level. But even then, the FFA insisted on a levy being paid to the FFA as “compensation” (really, as a deterrent). 

The guy has a Westfield model applied - it strengthened the FFA but left the clubs financially weaker. 

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libel - 12 May 2020 7:59 PM
Barca4Life - 12 May 2020 7:36 PM

Are you ?

What has he actually done, apart from standing down 70% of staff while keeping his own exec salary ?

I know your brain is programmed to think everything was great with the Lowys but what makes you think David Gallop would have handled this better? 
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Frank Lowy for all the good he did in the early was great especially how they got the aleague started, helped the Socceroos 2006 squad with Guus Hiddink and helped create the FFA Cup and FFA NC for player development BUT had its limits going forward especially after the World Cup bid shenanigans. 

The amount of mistakes I'm sure everyone knows what they were and lets be honest they stuffed the game up given we were at a good position at one stage and now the poor new FFA board have the job to clean up all the mess that has been laid, its easy to criticise JJ and his team when the weeds has been allowed to grow for too long.



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Barca4Life - 14 May 2020 12:43 PM
Frank Lowy for all the good he did in the early was great especially how they got the aleague started, helped the Socceroos 2006 squad with Guus Hiddink and helped create the FFA Cup and FFA NC for player development BUT had its limits going forward especially after the World Cup bid shenanigans. 

The amount of mistakes I'm sure everyone knows what they were and lets be honest they stuffed the game up given we were at a good position at one stage and now the poor new FFA board have the job to clean up all the mess that has been laid, its easy to criticise JJ and his team when the weeds has been allowed to grow for too long.



and you can’t do much weeding in 3 months in the job. 
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Barca4Life - 14 May 2020 12:21 PM
libel - 12 May 2020 7:59 PM

I know your brain is programmed to think everything was great with the Lowys but what makes you think David Gallop would have handled this better? 

You said you had "only been impressed" with JJ the longer his tenure had been going.

So I asked you what he has actually done, apart from standing down 70% of staff while keeping his own exec salary...
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libel - 14 May 2020 1:37 PM
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You said you had "only been impressed" with JJ the longer his tenure had been going.

So I asked you what he has actually done, apart from standing down 70% of staff while keeping his own exec salary...

He's pissed you off. I'd say that's something.

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libel - 14 May 2020 1:37 PM
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You said you had "only been impressed" with JJ the longer his tenure had been going.

So I asked you what he has actually done, apart from standing down 70% of staff while keeping his own exec salary...

Corona was a blessing in that sense for him. The bloated FFA HQ model was unsustainable.

Cutting costs and making FFA streamline is his job is it not?
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libel - 14 May 2020 1:37 PM
Barca4Life - 14 May 2020 12:21 PM

You said you had "only been impressed" with JJ the longer his tenure had been going.

So I asked you what he has actually done, apart from standing down 70% of staff while keeping his own exec salary...

Why don't you answer the question first, before dancing around it like you always do? 
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Waz - 14 May 2020 1:13 PM
Barca4Life - 14 May 2020 12:43 PM

and you can’t do much weeding in 3 months in the job. 

Exactly. 
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libel - 14 May 2020 1:37 PM

He's pissed you off. I'd say that's something.

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Barca4Life - 14 May 2020 2:49 PM
libel - 14 May 2020 1:37 PM

Why don't you answer the question first, before dancing around it like you always do? 

If anyone is dancing around a question, I don't think its me...
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Waz - 14 May 2020 12:05 PM
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Although some people are keen to sing Lowy’s praises his way of operating sponsorship was controversial and self-serving for the FFA. 

Once Lowy had signed up Hyundai it locked out all other car manufacturers as sponsors, pretty much across football but certainly with the A League clubs. So an FFA gain was often a loss for the ten clubs. 

They only changed the rules a couple of years back, due to CFG pressure, and allowed competing car manufacturers as sponsors at club level. But even then, the FFA insisted on a levy being paid to the FFA as “compensation” (really, as a deterrent). 

The guy has a Westfield model applied - it strengthened the FFA but left the clubs financially weaker. 

Don’t see the clubs become any better off either with no plan, direction or charter. Plus less money for other areas of the game to grow is what they selfishly pushed for. Clubs have now been counterpunched by Foxtel and we still expect all the riches to be pouring in now with Lowy gone. LOL. Please......

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paulc - 14 May 2020 3:17 PM
Waz - 14 May 2020 12:05 PM

Don’t see the clubs become any better off either with no plan, direction or charter. Plus less money for other areas of the game to grow is what they selfishly pushed for. Clubs have now been counterpunched by Foxtel and we still expect all the riches to be pouring in now with Lowy gone. LOL. Please......

The key word in that opening statement imo is “charter”, they don’t have that at the moment and all they have is increased influence on the A League 

The clubs only receive about $37m of the tv and sponsorship money which totals around $50m a year ($42m in tv, and maybe $8m in sponsorship).

A Lowy was in charge for 15 years and in that time, despite all their acclaimed financial clout and ability to bring sponsors in, they were unable to produce a financially stable professional league. In the last year of Lowy’s reign the HAL list a staggering $20m across all clubs - no one supporter of Lowy has ever explained how they think that’s sustainable?

it wasn’t imo and the league would either fold under a Lowy or we needed change. We got the latter and now we have to work through the implications. 

Clubs will have less money coming in so they’ll now have to work hard on getting fans through the door, and reducing costs like playing games at an over priced Suncorp Stadium; and they’ll have to develop a line of merchandise that supporters want. 

thankfully they way Lowy ran things heaves plenty of opportunity to improve profitability (reduced costs, increased merchandise sales, increased crowds )

Under Lowy’s guidance about 400,000 have walked away from attending HAL games. At $25 each that’s $10 million a year lost - twice the value of the Hyundai contract! Start by reversing that ....

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Waz - 14 May 2020 3:33 PM
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The key word in that opening statement imo is “charter”, they don’t have that at the moment and all they have is increased influence on the A League 

The clubs only receive about $37m of the tv and sponsorship money which totals around $50m a year ($42m in tv, and maybe $8m in sponsorship).

A Lowy was in charge for 15 years and in that time, despite all their acclaimed financial clout and ability to bring sponsors in, they were unable to produce a financially stable professional league. In the last year of Lowy’s reign the HAL list a staggering $20m across all clubs - no one supporter of Lowy has ever explained how they think that’s sustainable?

it wasn’t imo and the league would either fold under a Lowy or we needed change. We got the latter and now we have to work through the implications. 

Clubs will have less money coming in so they’ll now have to work hard on getting fans through the door, and reducing costs like playing games at an over priced Suncorp Stadium; and they’ll have to develop a line of merchandise that supporters want. 

thankfully they way Lowy ran things heaves plenty of opportunity to improve profitability (reduced costs, increased merchandise sales, increased crowds )

Under Lowy’s guidance about 400,000 have walked away from attending HAL games. At $25 each that’s $10 million a year lost - twice the value of the Hyundai contract! Start by reversing that ....

Contrary to what you say, under Lowys guidance, the AL actually grew 500,000. 

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paulc - 14 May 2020 4:20 PM
Waz - 14 May 2020 3:33 PM

Contrary to what you say, under Lowys guidance, the AL actually grew 500,000. 

With comments about introducing promotion and relegation and also expansion.

Eventually people grew tired or finally wised up.
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Its important the FFA don't innovate and stay with the same souless model, lets say, Gallop/ Lowy-like, that way we can just keep longing for pro/rel and second division.
With a streamlining of the comp going forward, they should structure the business model, 2 divisions and pro/rel, even one up, one down to start with, then fit the players and managers into it. 
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paulc - 14 May 2020 4:20 PM
Waz - 14 May 2020 3:33 PM

Contrary to what you say, under Lowys guidance, the AL actually grew 500,000. 

The loss of a $5m/year sponsorship contract that many seem bothered by is nothing compared to the loss of fans over the last five years. 

That loss was deliberately Orchestrated by an FFA organisation that decided to take on its own customers/fans and represents one of the all time lows of the game in this country. 

Today’s problems with sponsors, ratings, fox Sports and other “metrics” can be traced back to the fan boycotts and the disingenuous way the FFA handled the meetings intended to recover the situation 

it is not JJ and the new FFA Boards fault that Lowy and Gallop adopted a Scorched earth policy over the last five years ... it is however, the new FFAs problem to deal with. 

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Waz - 14 May 2020 5:51 PM
paulc - 14 May 2020 4:20 PM

The loss of a $5m/year sponsorship contract that many seem bothered by is nothing compared to the loss of fans over the last five years. 

That loss was deliberately Orchestrated by an FFA organisation that decided to take on its own customers/fans and represents one of the all time lows of the game in this country. 

Today’s problems with sponsors, ratings, fox Sports and other “metrics” can be traced back to the fan boycotts and the disingenuous way the FFA handled the meetings intended to recover the situation 

it is not JJ and the new FFA Boards fault that Lowy and Gallop adopted a Scorched earth policy over the last five years ... it is however, the new FFAs problem to deal with. 

The guidance under Lowy you referred to started in 2005 and not 5 years ago. Half a million increase in attendance.

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scott20won - 14 May 2020 5:14 PM
paulc - 14 May 2020 4:20 PM

With comments about introducing promotion and relegation and also expansion.

Eventually people grew tired or finally wised up.

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