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			    Would be interesting if Fox could do a red trial button for the audio... no button - commentary, fake crowd...
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			    +xIt’s a bit like clubs that have played fake chants over the loud speaker during a game during the years... and I don’t know anyone that likes that... will we get “Newcastle, Newcastle, Newcastle” in today’s efforts to be nominated for the Oscar best score, and special effects???.,, If you really want to pick on fake cheers from the crowd, how about the 10 seconds of fake cheers after the "alright Bulldogs let's hear it for our team" announcement that happens 2 or 3 times per game.....                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xEyes up JMK... Run Lachie run... Get angry Dylan... Sniff around the ruck DWZ... Let them play ball Deano!!!... Im picking Cogger to be our best on the day... And for mine he is the best foil for Foran of all option available... Yep I recon the stars are going to align for Cogger, he has trained hard, and I've said he is rubbish.. As "Jnr Mock" I'm the "Mock" you have when the real "Mock" is too busy mocking other players in our team... Man of the match will be Aiden Tolman, but only if he doesn't play. If he plays, manly will win easy and MoM will be DCE or one of the Turbos                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xWould be interesting if Fox could do a red trial button for the audio...  no button - commentary, fake crowd... red button - commentary only... green button - just the sounds of the game... I know which button id use...  It's worth emailing them.....                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket. Unsurprisingly you attack a minority, and invent figures... 100% x lettuce  x $45.76 Each to their own in right... like I said I’m not having a go that people that like it, but the idea... Are you suggesting the games this week are better cos of the fake crowd???... Cos that’s a far greater stretch than me saying it adds no value...                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xWould be interesting if Fox could do a red trial button for the audio...  no button - commentary, fake crowd... red button - commentary only... green button - just the sounds of the game... I know which button id use...  It's worth emailing them..... I got on the phone to them... on Thursday... still waiting... thankfully they’ve replace that awful hold music with crowd noise...                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket. Unsurprisingly you attack a minority, and invent figures... 100% x lettuce  x $45.76 Each to their own in right... like I said I’m not having a go that people that like it, but the idea... Are you suggesting the games this week are better cos of the fake crowd???... Cos that’s a far greater stretch than me saying it adds no value...  How are you measuring value? A) is it whether you see it of any value? B) is it whether I see it of any value? C) is it whether the majority of people see it of any value? D) is it whether the broadcasters see it of any value?  I'm sure if it wasnt of any value to the majority of people, Ch9 and Fox would have shelved it. It was an experiment. They tried it, it worked, they have overwhelming positive feedback or at least neutral feedback. The only negative feedback is from a small percentage of people.  Not having a dig at the minority yet but I bloody well will if they keep pushing their minority views.                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+xWould be interesting if Fox could do a red trial button for the audio...  no button - commentary, fake crowd... red button - commentary only... green button - just the sounds of the game... I know which button id use...  It's worth emailing them..... I got on the phone to them... on Thursday... still waiting... thankfully they’ve replace that awful hold music with crowd noise...  I dont think your suggestion is bad, but they probably won't waste their time on it if the minority group is believed to be less than 10%. They will at least wait for the weekend games to finish before they make any sort of review anyway.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket. Unsurprisingly you attack a minority, and invent figures... 100% x lettuce  x $45.76 Each to their own in right... like I said I’m not having a go that people that like it, but the idea... Are you suggesting the games this week are better cos of the fake crowd???... Cos that’s a far greater stretch than me saying it adds no value...  It was an experiment. They tried it, it worked, they have overwhelming positive feedback or at least neutral feedback. The only negative feedback is from a small percentage of people I’m interested in how you come to that conclusion... I’m sure their media outlets would be sprouting it a success... Of however you look at various sources their seems a fairly even mix of hate it, meh it, love it...                  
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x+xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket. Unsurprisingly you attack a minority, and invent figures... 100% x lettuce  x $45.76 Each to their own in right... like I said I’m not having a go that people that like it, but the idea... Are you suggesting the games this week are better cos of the fake crowd???... Cos that’s a far greater stretch than me saying it adds no value...  It was an experiment. They tried it, it worked, they have overwhelming positive feedback or at least neutral feedback. The only negative feedback is from a small percentage of people I’m interested in how you come to that conclusion... I’m sure their media outlets would be sprouting it a success... Of however you look at various sources their seems a fairly even mix of hate it, meh it, love it...   If it hurts their bottom line, they won't be persisting with it. It's like a pilot episode of a new series.... They try it and review its reception. If its negative, it's gone (or scheduled to a late night timeslot).  Footy is prime time. They wont persist with anything that costs them ratings.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+xThe simple question is does it add value??? Does it . The simple answer is no...  While it has its detractors and it’s ‘meh’era O haven’t heard anyone come out and say “oh wow that made the footy heaps better than 9 weeks ago... You cant possibly think the round 2 games were better.....surely not. In any case, each to their own. Just dont be surprised if you're in the 2% of people who don't like it - bracket. Unsurprisingly you attack a minority, and invent figures... 100% x lettuce  x $45.76 Each to their own in right... like I said I’m not having a go that people that like it, but the idea... Are you suggesting the games this week are better cos of the fake crowd???... Cos that’s a far greater stretch than me saying it adds no value...  It was an experiment. They tried it, it worked, they have overwhelming positive feedback or at least neutral feedback. The only negative feedback is from a small percentage of people I’m interested in how you come to that conclusion... I’m sure their media outlets would be sprouting it a success... Of however you look at various sources their seems a fairly even mix of hate it, meh it, love it...   If it hurts their bottom line, they won't be persisting with it. It's like a pilot episode of a new series.... They try it and review its reception. If its negative, it's gone (or scheduled to a late night timeslot).  Footy is prime time. They wont persist with anything that costs them ratings. Ratings are not a reasonable measure of the trials value when there is no alternative... we need a placebo crowd...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xI got on the phone to them... on Thursday... still waiting... thankfully they’ve replace that awful hold music with crowd noise...  Can't wait for the new album... It would be a bit odd seeing the Titans kick for goal & hearing Warney! Warney! Warney! in the background...I wonder how many beers I'd need first... Seriously though, if 98% of people in a room were naïve, daydreamers, inexperienced, ignorant, intoxicated, clueless, prefer watching sport with their tongue in cheek or simply can't handle reality.....then so be it. Those that weren't born yesterday know there was no difference between rounds 2 & 3. The grounds were empty. It's as simple as that.  Some people can handle it & other people can't handle it. There's others not impressed with the canned crowds but putting up with it just to see some sports. No drama from me either way though, to each their own. I just hope the blue & whites go well (whether the fake sound is muted or not).                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    An instant solution/fix to keep both the realists & the dreamers happy is using the stereo audio channels of the broadcast. Commentary from the left speaker & fake crowd noise from the right speaker. People can just use the pan/balance control to have one or the other or both if they're so inclined.                 
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    The Crowdashians... Featuring Manly and Drasons only a few minutes away!!!...
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+x+xDavid Morrow “you can really hear the hits out there”... no... no we can’t... cos some fvcker with a degree in marketing decided fake crowd noise was a good idea.,.  But you can... I wonder if the fake crowd noise is run through the commentators headsets???...you know just so they feel newnormal...  I just hope there’s no covid outbreak in the fake crowd...  No. The cardboard cutout fans were practising social distancing by being 1.5m apart. Aside from all you naysayers, I think rugby league and the broadcasters have done a marvalleous job. Especially with the game broadcast to as ll over the world and the world having nothing else to do but haveva go at watching it.  This is by far the single biggest moment in history of the game to promote itself and gain world attention yet to naysayers couldn't see an opportunity if it smacked you in the head. I just hope we play the game in it's true spirit on Sunday and dont turn away any new fans from the game. It's just a novelty.  In the great tradition of rugby league nothing will be done.  If they can't be a supplier of players to the NRL or England we're not interested. I think you underestimate the betting side of things - which is huge and larger market in America. Even if the game doesnt win over supporters who might want to come to Australia and experience a live NRL game, even if it their traditional sports take over their viewing habits, there is a market of sportbook gamblers in the USA who are itching  to bet on anything they have a remote understanding of. This could be huge bucks.  It could also be huge for the broadcasters who may just find a small market of interested fans and may show weekly games.  You have to make a start and what better opportunity to do it now - in the most viewer pleasing way. To the unsuspecting American, showcasing our sport with a crowd of 6000 at a suburban ground when you expect a modern stadium full of people is not exactly a great seller. Do it now when everyone appreciates you cant have a full stadium and you trick them into thinking this sport has AFL type crowds. That's how you sell the game. We dont exactly have State of Origin or GF crowds every week. The only thing better for the sport right now is if we had the Rugby League world cup on in July. Can you imagine the fanfair and ratings of having USA, Russia, Canada, Greece, Lebanon, England, NZ, AUS, France and all the Pacific nations in what may probably be the only international tournament this year?  Make it happen Vman.  Now there's a bad recipe for the integrity of the game.  The "huge" US betting market and our relatively small game on the world stage.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+xBTW you mentioned HG & Roy the other day. Well.... when they do those GF's and SOO's "live", they're not at the ground, they're in the studio. So all those crowd noises you hear in the backgound - all canned. All of it. So you might need someone else. That’s a poor argument... if they calling it off live tv with a live crowd it’s still an authentic crowd noise... why are the people don’t mind the fake crowd so keen on bashing those that don’t???... We aint bashing the people that do, but the ‘innovation’ itself... i was listening to the radio last night a few times and I must the TV is doing a better job of it than  radio so far. both 2GB and MMMs fake noise was overbearing... I’d love to bash you...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Puff the magic dragqueens ... go Worriers ...                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +x+x+xBTW you mentioned HG & Roy the other day. Well.... when they do those GF's and SOO's "live", they're not at the ground, they're in the studio. So all those crowd noises you hear in the backgound - all canned. All of it. So you might need someone else. That’s a poor argument... if they calling it off live tv with a live crowd it’s still an authentic crowd noise... why are the people don’t mind the fake crowd so keen on bashing those that don’t???... We aint bashing the people that do, but the ‘innovation’ itself... i was listening to the radio last night a few times and I must the TV is doing a better job of it than  radio so far. both 2GB and MMMs fake noise was overbearing... I’d love to bash you... What you and Dman consent to in private .... shouldn't be posted here...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    It is worth mentioning that the Dragqueens had a woeful first half #TestingTheMock                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    It sounds fine on the radio....nothing added...just commentary & the sound of the match. It's the same as it ever was. Not much interest in opposition sides for me so I'll worry about it tomorrow when a real match is on. :)
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Thank you Radio Granstand!!!...                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Good game from Harry Grant so far, every pass spot on, does a lot of tackling and scramble cover defence.Plays 80 mins in lower grades, will be interesting to see if he can do it with this energy level in the NRL.
 
 
 Good to see our dummy halves practising this passing techinque, but there is more too it, vision and brains are hard to coach.
 
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			    Wakeham dropped out only interest now is if Tolman plays.
 This style of game suits Tolman fitness wise.
 
 But Lewis to lock helps the forward rotation...
 
 Perhaps Tols and Wakeham went clubbing every night during the COVID-19 shutdown, Tols is odviously a party animal.
 
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xWakeham dropped out only interest now is if Tolman plays. This style of game suits Tolman fitness wise. But Lewis to lock helps the forward rotation... Perhaps Tols and Wakeham went clubbing every night during the COVID-19 shutdown, Tols is odviously a party animal. Wakeham must have niggle. Tolman must be a victim of Pay wanting to win...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    It was a minor hip injury for Tolman. 50/50 chance they said.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    First test tonight for the new 6 again rule with a tight score??...                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Someone should remind these black americans that a couple of years ago , a completely innocent Aussie woman was gunned down and killed by a black cop after calling the cops for assistance.
 Neither her white family nor Australia tore up the country. They waited, patiently for some sort of justice, which came years later.
 
 Now reverse the roles.
 
 A white cop kills a black guy (who was arguably not as innocent as may seem) and his people decide to destroy a city - even after swift action by the justice department.
 
 What is wrong with these people?
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    +xGood game from Harry Grant so far, every pass spot on, does a lot of tackling and scramble cover defence. Plays 80 mins in lower grades, will be interesting to see if he can do it with this energy level in the NRL. Good to see our dummy halves practising this passing techinque, but there is more too it, vision and brains are hard to coach. I hope we start Lewis in the halves, bring Averillo on late first half and move Lewis to lock, need to play footy to win under the new rules. Billy has definitely given Grant notice he wants the job back...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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