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Meanwhile, just then Spacex have become the first company to put  humans into space. Beautiful. 

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rusty - 30 May 2020 8:49 PM
This is all CNN pseudo socialist bullshit.  Cops arent going around randomly killing blacks, there is no evidence of this happening systemically.  What happened to George Floyd was disgraceful, but according to the autopsy he didnt die of suffocation, he died of a combination of being restrained and heart disease.  Guy had drug issues.  Still the cop shouldve rendered assistance and didnt, for that deserves to lose his job and possibly more.  But this was not murder or racism or oppression.  Whats going on at the moment with all the riots is a misunderstanding and misplaced anger about blacks place in America.  They have have this imaginary deluded belief that the reason they fall behind in society is because whites are ganging up on them, when the real reason is because they are choosing gang violence, drugs and guns over education and careers.  Progressives and fawning pathethic white apologists like carlito wont save blacks, accountability and change of attitude will.

Sad to see so many people have been sucked in by the whole BLM bullshit.  Its such fucking bullshit and you are retarded if you believe it.

Wow. Have you seen the footage? George Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe. They checked his pulse and he had no pulse but the three police officers stayed on his back and neck for a further 2 minutes.

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theFOOTBALLlover - 31 May 2020 10:38 AM
rusty - 30 May 2020 8:49 PM

Wow. Have you seen the footage? George Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe. They checked his pulse and he had no pulse but the three police officers stayed on his back and neck for a further 2 minutes.

He doesn't care. He won't comment on Ahmad arbery but probably will say he committed burglary which was proven false. Or how a innocent man In Minnesota was killed in his car by police . Or how amalou  diallo  was killed because he was holding a weapon which was his wallet. 
Or the brutalizian and sexual assault by police on abner louima  . Or Eric holder or trayvon Martin or the way we treat our first nations people but it's ignored by the media here. 
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Or Emmet till was murdered because he was accused of rapping a white woman in the 30's  .which she admitted was a lie decades later. 
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theFOOTBALLlover - 31 May 2020 10:38 AM
rusty - 30 May 2020 8:49 PM

Wow. Have you seen the footage? George Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe. They checked his pulse and he had no pulse but the three police officers stayed on his back and neck for a further 2 minutes.

Ok yeah you’re right, the qualified Doctor who did the autopsy must have got it wrong.  I’ll email him and tell him to revise his report and watch the YouTube footage again.  
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rusty - 31 May 2020 1:18 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 31 May 2020 10:38 AM

Ok yeah you’re right, the qualified Doctor who did the autopsy must have got it wrong.  I’ll email him and tell him to revise his report and watch the YouTube footage again.  

A man was murdered and you want to troll. How pathetic and typical of you. 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 31 May 2020 1:27 PM
rusty - 31 May 2020 1:18 PM

A man was murdered and you want to troll. How pathetic and typical of you. 

It he suffocated to death it would’ve been murder.  According to the autopsy he didn’t suffocate.  Therefore it’s not murder. 
If you’re too stupid to understand this simple fact then god help you.

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rusty - 31 May 2020 2:09 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 31 May 2020 1:27 PM

It he suffocated to death it would’ve been murder.  According to the autopsy he didn’t suffocate.  Therefore it’s not murder. 
If you’re too stupid to understand this simple fact then god help you.

Presumably if you have a cardiac arrest  and die due to torture that doesn't count as murder either?

'Death Certificate:  Heart attack."


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Munrubenmuz - 31 May 2020 2:19 PM
rusty - 31 May 2020 2:09 PM

Presumably if you have a cardiac arrest  and die due to torture that doesn't count as murder either?

'Death Certificate:  Heart attack."

All the people that jumped from the twin towers on September 11 were ruled to have died from homicide, for example.
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Munrubenmuz - 31 May 2020 2:19 PM
rusty - 31 May 2020 2:09 PM

Presumably if you have a cardiac arrest  and die due to torture that doesn't count as murder either?

'Death Certificate:  Heart attack."

A murder charge requires murderous intent.  Do you really think the cop tried to make Floyd have a heart attack by placing his knee on his neck?  Do you really think he knew he had heart disease and possibly drugs in his system?  Whatever this is this isnt murder.  If Floyd was white people would see this as police brutality gone awry.

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Wasn't he charged with third degree murder/manslaughter? 
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George Floyd was handcuffed and in the back of the car. He was then taken from the back of the car, while handcuffed. It was only then that three police officers threw him to the ground and kneeled on him. Derek Chauvin and George Floyd knew each other having worked together at a nightclub. 
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rusty - 31 May 2020 6:37 PM
Munrubenmuz - 31 May 2020 2:19 PM

A murder charge requires murderous intent.  Do you really think the cop tried to make Floyd have a heart attack by placing his knee on his neck?  Do you really think he knew he had heart disease and possibly drugs in his system?  Whatever this is this isnt murder.  If Floyd was white people would see this as police brutality gone awry.

So if I choke someone to death, but the autopsy reveals the man died because he had a heart attack while I was choking him, in your opinion you wouldn't say I killed him? 

Is that correct?
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robstazzz - 31 May 2020 9:58 PM
rusty - 31 May 2020 6:37 PM

So if I choke someone to death, but the autopsy reveals the man died because he had a heart attack while I was choking him, in your opinion you wouldn't say I killed him? 

Is that correct?

That's what I was getting at. 

I guess what Rusty is trying to say is the policeman was trying to restrain him and he died.  He wasn't trying to 'kill' him.  (IE no intent.)  It's probably what we'd call manslaughter.  The seppos are charging him with 3rd degree murder whatever that is.  Maybe that's the equivalent of manslaughter here?


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Here you go.  From Wiki.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-degree_murder

I'm no lawyer though.  May not be relevant.

Minnesota

Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing] the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life").[7][8] In 1987, an additional drug-related provision ("without intent to cause death, proximately caus[ing] the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II") was added to the definition of third-degree murder.[7][9] Up until the early 2000s, prosecutions under that provision were rare, but they began to rise in the 2010s. Some reports linked this increase in prosecutions to the opioid epidemic in the United States.[10]

Minnesota law also defines the crime of third-degree murder of an unborn child, with the same elements of depraved mind and lack of intent to kill distinguishing it from first- or second-degree murder of an unborn child.[11][12] Both third-degree murder and third-degree murder of an unborn child are punishable by a maximum of 25 years' imprisonment.[7][12]




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Congratulations to the "protestors".

You've just given President Trump four more years.   But hey you got a free pair of shoes.

Fucking animals.  

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ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 9:24 AM
Congratulations to the "protestors".

You've just given President Trump four more years.   But hey you got a free pair of shoes.

Fucking animals.  

Neoliberal capitalism does this to people. More outraged at the looting than the murder of a human being. Materials can be replaced whilst a person's life can't. 
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theFOOTBALLlover - 1 Jun 2020 10:56 AM
ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 9:24 AM

Neoliberal capitalism does this to people. More outraged at the looting than the murder of a human being. Materials can be replaced whilst a person's life can't. 

None of those people care at all about George Floyd.  Violence, looting & arson has fuck all to do with any ideological bent.  

There are peaceful protests occuring right now in the US which are legitimate & constructive.  Violence will only strengthen Trump's grip on power,  those scumbags have fucked themselves & the whole country.

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theFOOTBALLlover - 1 Jun 2020 10:56 AM
ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 9:24 AM

Neoliberal capitalism does this to people. More outraged at the looting than the murder of a human being. Materials can be replaced whilst a person's life can't. 

Cops are killed every week in the USA and no one gives a shit.  Stop pretending you have this great respect for human life when everyday you turn a blind eye to murder and injustice.  Millions of kids starving in Africa and people would rather buy iphones.  
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theFOOTBALLlover - 1 Jun 2020 10:56 AM
ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 9:24 AM

Neoliberal capitalism does this to people. 

Bullshit. Looting and theft has existed as long as human beings have had possessions.

Any reasonable person should be outraged that Floyd's death is being used by some of the protesters as an excuse to destroy livelihoods of innocent business owners, many of whom are black. 

Anyone seeking to justify the looting needs to seriously reevaluate their moral convictions.

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Its amazing how people see the exact same things in different ways to fit their own narrative biases.  There’s new video emerging that a violent struggle took place in the back seat of the cop car prior to being removed and pinned down while waiting back up.  According to BLM this is proof they were beating the shit of out him for no reason, while the most likely explanation is that Floyd resisted arrest. It’s extremely unlikely that four cops of mixed racial backgrounds would beat up a black guy for no reason in broad daylight while being filmed by members of the public, but peeps will see what they wanna see I guess.
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The mental gymnastics people do in order to justify shit lol.

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rusty - 1 Jun 2020 1:48 PM
 but peeps will see what they wanna see I guess.

Someone putting a knee on someone's neck until they die is pretty fucking black & white.  :ermm:

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ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 2:10 PM
rusty - 1 Jun 2020 1:48 PM

Someone putting a knee on someone's neck until they die is pretty fucking black & white.  :ermm:

I will take the word of the autopsy report over youtube footage.
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“A 2015 study by Harvard professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. found that there was no racial bias in the use of lethal police force between black and white suspects in similar situations.”

Its a fantasy and a delusion. Blacks would make far more progress if they ditch BLM ideology and buried their heads in books and education instead.  Probably holding out for reparations.


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rusty - 1 Jun 2020 2:16 PM
ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 2:10 PM

I will take the word of the autopsy report over youtube footage.

I like that you're typing that with a straight face too. 

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Bullshit. Looting and theft has existed as long as human beings have had possessions.

Oh Shakazeramesh, will you ever learn?

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ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 2:43 PM
rusty - 1 Jun 2020 2:16 PM

I like that you're typing that with a straight face too. 

In the 911 call that drew police, the caller described him as “awfully drunk” and “not in control of himself”.

An independent medical examiner has been hired by George Floyd’s legal team for an autopsy after one conducted by the county pathologist revealed “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation”.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/george-floyd-death-family-seek-independent-autopsy-in-police-brutality-case/news-story/9711c4eb6f54b321f22dd4012f000744

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ErogenousZone - 1 Jun 2020 2:10 PM
rusty - 1 Jun 2020 1:48 PM

Someone putting a knee on someone's neck until they die is pretty fucking black & white.  :ermm:

Whenever something happens I also wonder if ol rusty will go there.

And yep, he went there. 

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