About time they get labeled a terrorist organisation. 

Those dogs do nothing but start trouble, and terrorise people, and what's worse with these flops is the fact they have no idea how to debate, or even answer a simple fucking question about what they're protesting about. 

Biggest drop kick group I've ever seen. 

I thought you were all about freedom of speech and expression? 

FWIW Antifa are basically douchebag white kids who listened to too much Public Enemy and Rage Against the Machine growing up but terrorist organisation? Gimme a break. How are they "terrorists" but the armed thugs who barged into the state capitol building to intimidate those inside "good people?". 

 How am I against freedom of speech because I'm happy a bunch of terrorists are labeled terrorist?

Also I those thugs you talk about didn't go and burn business, churches, police cars, bash people on his streets, loot, ect ect. 

How can you even put both of those protesters in the same category? Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the difference between the two?

I'm actually surprised that you would come out and defend Antifa. I would have thought we would have been on the same page about those morons. 

I just noticed you asked me how someone barging into the state capital building is a good person. 

You might have to ask someone else that question because I don't know what planet you got that from. 

All I ever said about those protesting against tougher restrictions was that they're not all conspiracy theorists which is exactly what you labeled them. 

You know ANTIFA = "Anti-fascists" so you could lump those people as against fascists like Nazis.  I think I'd rather be called ANTIFA than a actual Nazi like those Trump fuckwits that carried around Nazi flags and chanted anti Jew slogans at Charlottesville. 

"There was a lot of bad people on both sides"..

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/who-are-antifa

If I went and protested against a nazi rally or a KKK rally would you be labelling me a terrorist?
 

Im not sure calling a group "douchebags" is defending them but ok.

Antifa are moronic, faux-revolutionaries that in like to pretend they are for social causes but in reality like to cause a ruckus. That doesn't make them a terrorist organisation, it makes them antisocial idiots. 

If in your definition a terrorist can only be a Muslim, then I see why you're having trouble labelling those antifa scum terrorists. 

In my books anyone on the streets terrorising civilians and police, and causing as much chaos as possible is a terrorist.

You don't need to be a Muslim extremist that blows himself up to be a labelled a terrorist. 

Isn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal?

Good for you, if I had to choose between those two idiots I'd rather the ones who chanted insults, over those who burnt churches, buildings, restuaraunts, shopping centers, looted anything they could, assaulted innocent people leaving many in hospital and one dead. Oh and how could I forget, they also chanted insults. 

But back to your irrelevant point about one being worse than the other. What on earth has that got to do with me labeling Antifa terrorists?

I'm not the one defending the actions of dickheads. Did you ever see me defend any fuckwit chanting disgusting things against Jews? 

I don't know if it ever occurred to you or not, but it is perfectly normal for you to hate Trump, yet at the same same hate the thugs on the streets causing chaos. 

Anyways each to their own. If you think they're not terrorising the streets in your opinion that's fine, I'm not here trying to change your opinion. But at the same time no one will change my opinion of those antifa scum. 

A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too.

I'm not saying you said any of those things and I think the looters and the violent ANTIFA clowns are thugs and criminals.  (And I've even said as much in this thread previously.) I'm just saying being anti fascist, which I think is a good thing, will get you labelled ANTIFA which, although true, carries extreme left wing baggage and is not helpful. 

I'd imagine even the most ardent right winger and Trump supporter would be anti nazi and by default 'antifa'.  

I'm also saying calling anyone who is anti fascist a terrorist is plain wrong which I believe you did.

   

I'm anti fascists. I'm not calling anyone anti fascists a terrorist. 

I'm calling Antifa terrorists because that's exactly what they are. They can't fool me with their bullshit. They've been causing trouble for years.

Nothing but a bunch of cowards that only act tough when they have numbers on their side.

Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations.

America hasn't invaded anyone yet under the Trump administration, but I can't say the same about those who came before him and invaded many other nations. 

The hilarity of people talking about tyrannical governments and their rights and now that the Government is going tyrannical they just sit back and applaud it.

Where's all the anti-central federal Government whinging now?

-PB

Trump's actions this week are making Antifa all the more relevant, he's becoming more and more fascist as each day passes lol

-PB

Yes, I believe in the right to peaceful protests regardless of whether you're right or left, and no, I don't agree with the armed thugs entering the capitol building. 

Antifa are far, far more dangerous than you're representing, given their propensity for violence and destruction over the years. Many of them may look like basement dwelling losers, but considering some of their tactics over the years - and some of the people who have funded them - this is far from being a peaceful group. Incidentally, many Antifa types have recently been captured on video spray painting "BLM" on various buildings, caught in the act by understandably pissed-off BLM members. What are these people trying to achieve other than race wars? Check out the views of ex-BLM member and Ferguson organiser Chaziel Sunz. 

So, looking at some of the comments here it would appear that we have Antifa sympathisers on 442. Deary me... :laugh:

Not saying this particular definition is wrong, but this statement is scary...

If trump wins I think that country will be in civil war. I don’t care about the two sides I just want everyone to get along 

1.  www.google.com

2. African Americans have the same rights, freedoms and opportunities as everybody else.  That they choose to squander them is on them not on us.  Its proven that you if get an education and work hard, you can be as successful as anyone.  Hey, there might even be a black American President some day.  Asians and Indians are the two most economically advantaged racial/ethnic groups in the USA and despite facing the same if not worse challenges including racism rather than bitching and moaning about white privilege they work hard and reap the rewards.  The problem with African Americans isnt white privilege or killer cops, its black culture which frowns on education and success as white man inventions while glamourising violence, gangs, crime and guns.  In our polite society its very wrong to blame racial minorities for their failings so we absorb the blame ourselves which makes us feel noble and enlightened but leaves racial minorities feeling resentful and bitter and that the onus is on society to “change”.  Just look at the current rioting and looting, the majority of it is conducted by black people but no one has the guts to call out the black violence, instead they rationalise it saying they’re grieving for George Floyd which further emboldens the looters.  Its a like bad parent who makes excuses for their naughty child, rather than teaching them discipline and accountability they just blame their wayward ways on everyone else, and the kid grows up with no sense of aspiration and personal responsibility.  That is white mans gift to the black race.

3.  If you pick apart every single action by every single police officer then you will find wrongdoing. If you then filter out all the non black victims then it will seem that only blacks are being targeted.  Whats reported in the media isnt a representation of the broader reality, the studies and evidence shows that there is no or little racial bias against black Americans.  Blacks are involved at a higher rate of crime and violence than other races, therefore they are more likely to come into contact with police and therefore police abuses.  Those singular incidents you mentioned do not prove a systemic bias and oppression against blacks, all they prove is more narrow media attention span when the perpetrator is a white cop and the victim a black.  Like I said MORE whites are killed by cops per year than blacks, but those cases are rarely picked up by the media, especially left media who fear it might interfere with the BLM narrative.

Stopping public mayhem and mass crime isnt tantamount to tyranny.  Now if the government ordered the military to open fire on the protestors that would be tyranny.  

The first step is getting along is accepting election losses and that you dont always get your choice of President.

This broad definition has been around for a long time. Think about the IRA - terrorist v freedom fighter.

yes, I meant this statement in general "the exact definition straight off Google"

Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies.

Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much.

North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. 

Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. 

The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system.

This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter.

However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. 

But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't?

You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs?  You do know that?

https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1

I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left.  (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.)

So yeah cut the bullshit.

True. We have to be weary of media giants filtering results to suit their narrative. :)

I'm not saying the definition is wrong. I actually agree with Rob in saying that Antifa fits within the definition of a terrorist organisation. 

Either way, the extremes of any ideology will get you down a path to violent action which is a major problem.