Australia and New Zealand 2023 World Cup bid


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paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:24 PM
libelous - 9 Jun 2020 4:15 PM

They'll add 3,500 temporary seats if the bid gets up like they did for the 2000 Olympics, but that will only make a total of 18,435.

Unfortunately the minimum is 20,000, so I for one am very disappointed with the half-arsed effort and I fear that we haven't done enough to win hosting rights.

By ‘half-arsed effort ‘ do you mean by not building 13 brand new stadiums....jeez.
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rooboy91 - 9 Jun 2020 4:30 PM
Requirements only matter if FIFA want them to matter. 

Does that justify submitting a bid that doesn't meet the criteria?

"Hrmph. I told you FIFA were corrupt: they didn't even select our non-compliant bid!"
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libelous - 9 Jun 2020 4:42 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:24 PM

By ‘half-arsed effort ‘ do you mean by not building 13 brand new stadiums....jeez.

No I don't mean that, which should be rather obvious because that's not what I said.

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paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:45 PM
libelous - 9 Jun 2020 4:42 PM

No I don't mean that, which should be rather obvious because that's not what I said.

Explain your comment ‘Half-arsed’ then.
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libelous - 9 Jun 2020 4:54 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:45 PM

Explain your comment ‘Half-arsed’ then.

We already had enough suitable 20k+ venues in our own country that could have made a good bid but the FFA couldn't even convince the state/territory governments to make them available (Western Sydney Stadium, North Queensland Stadium, Robina Stadium, Campbeltown Stadium, Canberra Stadium, even Kardinia Park) and a modest upgrade for Hindmarsh to meet criteria shouldn't have been too much to ask, so again, I'm quite disappointed with how it turned out.

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paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:56 PM
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We already had enough suitable 20k+ venues in our own country that could have made a good bid but the FFA couldn't even convince the state/territory governments to make them available (Western Sydney Stadium, North Queensland Stadium, Robina Stadium, Campbeltown Stadium, Canberra Stadium, even Kardinia Park) and a modest upgrade for Hindmarsh to meet criteria shouldn't have been too much to ask, so again, I'm quite disappointed with how it turned out.

It’s a joint Aus/NZ bid so we don’t need all of those stadiums. You seem to lack an understanding of the bid process, thank goodness you are not involved.
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libelous - 9 Jun 2020 5:44 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:56 PM

You seem to lack an understanding of the bid process, thank goodness you are not involved.

I've already posted FIFA's pdf of the bid criteria twice in this thread, but please feel free to fill me in on what I don't understand about the bid process. 

Is there a part that says under criteria venues are ok?

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libelous - 9 Jun 2020 5:44 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 4:56 PM

It’s a joint Aus/NZ bid so we don’t need all of those stadiums. 

We didn't need Robina Stadium or Canberra Stadium, but we did need the AFL oval in Launceston? Please.
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paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 7:49 PM
libelous - 9 Jun 2020 5:44 PM

We didn't need Robina Stadium or Canberra Stadium, but we did need the AFL oval in Launceston? Please.

A complete lack of understanding of how FIFA works when it comes to World Cups. Geography is as important as the stadiums themselves. Do educate yourself.
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libelous - 9 Jun 2020 8:18 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2020 7:49 PM

A complete lack of understanding of how FIFA works when it comes to World Cups. Geography is as important as the stadiums themselves. Do educate yourself.

Given that you're not actually expanding on what it is you reckon I don't understand after being asked twice now I doubt anyone else reading this will give your statements much merit.

Geography may be politically important, but for the sake of our bid I hope that isn't the only factor given that there's already been two Women's World Cups in the AFC and none in South America.

I try my best to be a "facts over feelings" kind of guy and have repeatedly posted FIFA's published criteria for WWC infrastructure, which we can see we unfortunately don't meet.

Don't shoot the messenger.
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YES lets win this so weget football in the NEWS becauose you get NOTHING if your nit playing!!
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Thanks for the link

According to that we're front runners.  So congratulations Columbia.


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Thanks for the link.
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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jun 2020 10:32 PM

Thanks for the link

According to that we're front runners.  So congratulations Columbia.

Haha Lou sticca on Twitter:


Brazil pulling out of @FIFAWWC isn't a good thing for Australia's interests. South America will all pull behind Colombia whereas Asian vote will be split between Australia & Japan. Its no secret Australia isn't that endearing to our Asian neighbours so we have fight on our hands

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paladisious - 11 Jun 2020 1:24 AM


Hope so
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Burztur - 11 Jun 2020 7:36 AM
paladisious - 11 Jun 2020 1:24 AM

Hope so

Obviously FIFA don’t think our bid is ‘half-arsed.
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paladisious - 11 Jun 2020 1:24 AM


Greatest sporting moment in Australia besides the Uruguay game. 
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ErogenousZone - 11 Jun 2020 9:46 AM
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Greatest sporting moment in Australia besides the Uruguay game. 

Seriously though, everyone memes on Bradbury because he won it from behind on the final turn of the gold medal race, but they don't think about the years of work to get to the final turn of the gold medal race. He said in an interview on the last lap when they broke away and he knew it was over he thought of just coasting to the end, but he kept trying his hardest to keep up, and when they fell on the last turn the rest is history.
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libelous - 11 Jun 2020 9:41 AM
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Obviously FIFA don’t think our bid is ‘half-arsed.

Don't count your chickens until they've hatched.
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paladisious - 11 Jun 2020 10:02 AM
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Seriously though, everyone memes on Bradbury because he won it from behind on the final turn of the gold medal race, but they don't think about the years of work to get to the final turn of the gold medal race. He said in an interview on the last lap when they broke away and he knew it was over he thought of just coasting to the end, but he kept trying his hardest to keep up, and when they fell on the last turn the rest is history.

Bradbury was very keen to finish on the podium but it was a very competitive final. There had been a number of falls in previous rounds and he stated beforehand that he expected similar to happen sometime in the final so to at least pass one person. As  it happened it worked to treat.  
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libelous - 11 Jun 2020 9:41 AM
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Obviously FIFA don’t think our bid is ‘half-arsed.

FIFA thought the Qatar bid was half arsed.
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Burztur - 11 Jun 2020 10:42 AM
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FIFA thought the Qatar bid was half arsed.

Source?
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libelous - 11 Jun 2020 10:48 AM
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Source?

FIFA.

https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/ayheyvitgkcpamaxzovz.pdf

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Bookies are never wrong , as the saying goes .
well let’s hope we win it , I wonder if the News Ltd trash will ignore us for the full month similar to the Knight in that Monty python sketch all those years ago.
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Voting at 02:00am AEST tonight/Friday morning.
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Colombia's bid to host 2023 Women's World Cup boosted by Uefa
Suzanne Wrack
Thu 25 Jun 2020 05.08 AESTLast modified on Thu 25 Jun 2020 05.55 AEST

The vote on Thursday to decide who hosts the 2023 Women’s World Cup is believed to be tighter than expected after Uefa members of the Fifa council were encouraged to back Colombia rather than the combined bid from Australia and New Zealand.

Despite Australia and New Zealand’s superior score from Fifa’s technical evaluation of the bids, 4.1 to Colombia’s 2.8, the Guardian understands two members of the Uefa delegation rubbished the technical reports in a meeting attended by its Fifa council members and argued that because the Women’s World Cup was a “development tournament” its representatives should back Colombia. Uefa did not respond to requests for comment.

Thirty-five members of the Fifa council will vote and if the nine Uefa representatives join four from Conmebol, the South American federation, in backing Colombia that would give them a head start over a presumed 10 votes guaranteed for Australia and New Zealand.

Australia and New Zealand have received public backing from the Asian Football Confederation, which has seven votes, after the withdrawal of Japan’s bid, and they are likely to secure the two votes from Oceania. They are also favourites to have the backing of Fifa’s president, Gianni Infantino, who is unlikely to go against the technical reports.

With seven votes from the Confederation of African Football and five from Concacaf, which covers North and Central America and the Caribbean, to play for, the decision is hanging in the balance.

It is not known whether the Football Association chairman, Greg Clarke, will follow the Uefa recommendation or back the bid from Australia and New Zealand, long believed to be the front runner.

On Saturday Fifa defended its technical evaluation of Colombia’s bid after the president of the Colombian FA, Ramón Jesurún, and the Conmebol president, Alejandro Domínguez, complained in a letter of “erroneous and discriminatory conclusions”. The pair highlighted the conclusions in relation to security, health and medical facilities and commercial potential.

A reply from Fatma Samoura, Fifa’s secretary general, said “all steps were taken to conduct the evaluation in a highly objective manner”, that experts indicated an “elevated level of risk”, that the altitude of Bogotá was an addition health issue and that forecast ticketing revenue was “modest” compared with the 2019 tournament in France.

Colombia’s women’s football track record is poor, but there is a hope among players that it could be a catalyst for change. Last year members of the Colombia senior women’s national team spoke out about a lack of support, few camps and poor conditions, and this month a former head coach of the under-17 team reached an agreement with prosecutors after he was accused of sexual harassment. The players’ union, Acolfutpro, has been forced to provide care packages for players who have had contracts cancelled as a result of Covid-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/24/colombias-bid-to-host-2023-womens-world-cup-boosted-by-uefa

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